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McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’

By Faiz on Jan 10th, 2007 at 3:41 pm

McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’»

As the Carpetbagger Report noted, today on MSNBC, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) defended his statement from Oct. 2002 when he claimed, “I believe that the success [in Iraq] will be fairly easy.” McCain told Tim Russert, “It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy.” Watch it:

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McCain’s claim that the war “was easy” fails to acknowledge that there never was an end to “major combat operations” as President Bush once proclaimed. Contrary to McCain’s suggestion that “the military operation” was easy, difficult military operations have continued to this day. Despite McCain’s efforts to defend his faulty pre-war prognostications, the truth is he simply failed to realize the difficulty of the mission in Iraq prior to the war.

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Full transcript:

RUSSERT: Go back, Senator, to 2002. The administration saying we would be greeted as liberators. John McCain saying you thought success would be fairly easy.

MCCAIN: It was.

RUSSERT: In all honesty…

MCCAIN: It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy. We were greeting as liberators. Look at the films of when we rolled into Baghdad.

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  1. Krazny Says:

    He is right, the war was easy, it is what followed the war, that has been the problem. Of course since the “greeted with roses, and candy” think didn’t work out, Bush and his trusted advisors didn’t know what to do.


  2. nffcnnr Says:

    “Nothing worthwhile is easy, you know that.” - Clark W. Griswold


  3. kdoug Says:

    This Guy Is High On His Own Sense Of Self Importance With NO Grip One Reality … Why Do People Keep Listening To Him? He Is An Idiot.


  4. bs Says:

    wtf? that can’t get any st, st, stupidier can they.


  5. Zimzone Says:

    Cheeks McCain, always honest, never a flip-flopper, but willing to change his story at a moment’s notice.

    Did anyone notice him getting his cheeks on TV for the BCS coin flip?

    Anyone notice Fox saying the Dems took the day off for the big game,
    never mentioning that Boner had formally asked Pelosi because many of the Neosluts were going to the game?

    Suit up, Cheeks. Time to lead the Chimp’s escalation of the invasion.
    Just don’t get caught again, please. God only knows what you’d say this time.


  6. Zep Tepi Says:

    Caption Contest: “If I close my eyes, it will be easy, three clicks and I’m home”


  7. YouCantHandleDaTruth Says:

    McCain believes his own hype and that’s a shame


  8. AshenShard Says:

    Well, if McCain isn’t just full of bs and actually believes what he is saying, then we are in more trouble than we thought. Why is it that powerful countries are always so arrogant to believe that a war is only fought in the way they define it, with big battles and recognizable combatants. British learned their lesson during the American Rebellion, why did we not learn ours during Vietnam?


  9. Propaganda Says:

    McCain said to Timmeh:

    “we were greeted as liberators, just look at the film of when rolled into Baghdad”

    THIS IS A BALD FACE LIE AND HE KNOWS IT

    The only possible film / event he could be referring to is taking down the Saddam status in Firdos square - this event was a staged event.

    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0703-02.htm

    Not only was it staged, the “Iraqis” were all Chalabi’s minions!

    McCain is a lying POS - and he knows it.


  10. TripMaster Monkey Says:

    To think, I actually used to like this guy….[shudder].

    I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy.

    Sure…war is easy….too bad we’re not as good at peace, or we’d be done by now.

    We were greeting as liberators. Look at the films of when we rolled into Baghdad.

    You mean the films that were staged by our government as propaganda? Those films?

    McCain has drunk the neocon Kool-Aid so deeply that his sould is dead.


  11. tarazan Says:

    And how do Americans and people around the world trust such brain to be a president of this country,who still insists that the Iraq was..so easy?!!! If it was so easy easy 4 years ago, then it should be near perfect now. Why are we still fighting there after 4 years in this war if it was so easy ?


  12. klyde Says:

    He really has gone round the bend.


  13. s Says:

    Have we all caught on yet??

    I think the majority of Americans have. This is just more shit and everyone knows it.


  14. Yikes Says:

    “Look at the films of when we rolled into Baghdad.”

    Wasn’t that a fine piece of propaganda film. Thanks for the memories John.


  15. Abby Says:

    The warmongers have been disqualified when it comes to any prediction regarding any aspect of this so-called war.

    Here’s a Bill Maher video about Neocons and their predictions.


  16. Impeachment Impatience Says:

    Distracting Congress from the Real War Plan: Iran

    Is the surge an orchestrated distraction from the real war plan?

    A good case can be made that it is. The US Congress and media are focused on President Bush’s proposal for an increase of 20,000 US troops in Iraq, while Israel and its American neoconservative allies prepare an assault on Iran.

    Bush’s Rush to Armageddon

    Bush’s personnel changes also come as Israel is reported stepping up preparations for air strikes, possibly including tactical nuclear bombs, to destroy Iran’s nuclear facilities, such as the reactor at Natanz, south of Tehran, where enriched uranium is produced.

    The Sunday Times of London reported on Jan. 7 that two Israeli air squadrons are training for the mission and “if things go according to plan, a pilot will first launch a conventional laser-guided bomb to blow a shaft down through the layers of hardened concrete [at Natanz]. Other pilots will then be ready to drop low-yield one kiloton nuclear weapons into the hole.”


  17. dlet Says:

    MCCAIN: It was easy, it was easy. I said the military operation would be easy. It was easy. We were greeting as liberators. Look at the films of when we rolled into Baghdad.

    Yes and I am sure that the families of all the servicemen that have died have family videos that show them alive and well. Isn’t it great to look into the past and see goodness.


  18. ForTruth Says:

    I can’t wait until a few months down the line, and McCains says he never said that, and TP pulls up this video.

    I’ll start the ruckus, by saying, McCain didn’t mean winning was easy, he meant blowing stuff up was easy, get your facts straight!


  19. rachel b Says:

    I feel all giddy today that Bush is going to speak tonight .

    Now I know how you Dems felt when Kennedy was about to speak or make an appearance .

    It is electric .


  20. NCBlueneck Says:

    Man! that neocon kool-aid is some mighty potent stuff!


  21. ForTruth Says:

    rachel,

    Can you do that in private? Masturbation is a private thing. Unless you want to get freaky…


  22. USA Says:

    This is proof that people who call themselves “Republicans” are brain-dead.


  23. liberal press Says:

    #20…rachel bubblehead, we don’t get “giddy” when a Democrat speaks. We’re not groupies like you and your ilk.


  24. USA Says:

    20.”I feel all giddy today that Bush is going to speak tonight .

    Now I know how you Dems felt when Kennedy was about to speak or make an appearance .

    It is electric .”

    What? If you have something to say, then say it. Your obviously a twit.


  25. Abby Says:

    #20. Eeeew!


  26. Mikey Says:

    If I were the cynical type, I would suspect that the similar question yesterday to Tony Snow was planted. And Snow’s bullshit answer was crafted ahead of time. The neocons are looking through McCains closet, looking to “fix” statements that could be brought up his political adversaries later in his presidential campaign. After 3 or four months of redifining words like mission, war, operations, major, etc., the sheeple will be so confused they might actually start to believe that the “mission” was accomplished, we’re just on another mission now. Think about it, why all of a sudden, would the brain dead media be raising these long questions? It’s just politicians doing their thing. You know….lying and decieving.


  27. Mikey Says:

    “We were greeting as liberators”

    I wonder if his lawyer told him to say “greeting” rather than what was truly said at the time which was “greeted”. BIG difference in meaning.


  28. Yikes Says:

    “I feel all giddy today that Bush is going to speak tonight .”

    I can’t listen to this guy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he has written into his speech exactly when to smirk and giggle. It always looks like he’s speaking to the frat boys. “Yes sir, may I have another.”


  29. Roger_Roger Says:

    It must to tough for McCain. For awhile only his party hated him while the left loved him. Now his party and the left hate this guy. I feel for him a little, but not much.


  30. robert Says:

    I’ve said it before

    “Winning the war was easy, the peace is the motherf*cker that is killing us”


  31. Mikey Says:

    #20 Do you mean you feel giddy as in how a mentally retarded person would react when she sees a monkey on television?


  32. rachel b Says:

    KEEP AMERICA STRONG * KEEP PAYING YOUR TAXES

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is supporting the war
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is funding dem dublspeek
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is refueling deadly warjets
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is killing civilians
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying the salaries of those who make war
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is in essence tithing George Bush to carry on this war
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is in essence tithing Richard Cheney to carry on this war
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is in effect paying the oil lobby in Washington to continue this war
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is putting vacations and wild parties in front of the Bush twins
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is putting new shoes on Condi Rices feet
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying Bush to sit in Crawford Texas and watch the war on a bigtscreentv while eating greasy cheetos
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is buying Bushs next bottle of booze
    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying Laura Bs hotel bill when her and George get into a fight


  33. splooty pops Says:

    The films of the US rolling into bagdad and pulling down Saddams Statues were all Staged ? he is as mad as a box of frogs


  34. tarazan Says:

    Indeed it was easy for Iranians and the Iraqi Shiates who lived in exile in Iran and now running Iraq. For them, they could not topple Saddam…they let America do it…with thousands of US lives and billions of dollars….they came from their exile in Iran after toppling the biggest enemy of Iran, Saddam Hussien and his regime. Iranians regime loved it…but now Shiates and Iran want to flush whatever resistance left by the Sunnies in Iraq,and they want USA to do it,and that will complete their total grip on power in Iraq. Now Iran has more influence on Iraqi Shiate government more than any country in the world…let’s not forget that Ayatulla Sistani the Iraq Shiate spiritual leader is an Iranian. The simple legitimate question remains..Why can’t Iraq Prime Minister Al-Maliki recruit another 20,000 Iraqis to do the job?


  35. Zimzone Says:

    Rachel,
    It is electric .
    What do you do when the batteries go dead?
    Turn on Fox?
    Rabid Rush?
    Sean Insannity?
    Please, as posted above, keep this to yourself, or give
    Jason ‘My Batteries are dead, too’, Hendler a call.
    His number is on that bathroom stall, but you’ll have to go into the men’s room.
    Roger, do you want to watch?
    Happy Guy has the address.
    Have fun y’all!

    Folks, you gotta love these Neosluts; they’re very easily entertained.
    Piddles,


  36. splooty pops Says:

    Why can’t Iraq Prime Minister Al-Maliki Tell Bush to Leave

    Why Cannot Saudi and Chavez just not cut oil supplies to America and stop the war


  37. JerryTheAngel Says:

    We were greeted as OCCUPIERS from the get go!

    McCain sees every adversay as some “gook” who tortured him for so many years. Instead of spilling yellow blood, this brown blood will do just fine for P.O.W Payback.

    McCain has so many rosey scenario’s in the first few months after the war starterd, captured on tape, that come 2008, the DNC will be salivating to put them on the air in a campaign commerical. We Democrats can play that “flip-flop” strategy also.

    This ex independent maverick has turned into a lapdog for Warmongering Neocons and the Religious right. Nixon 101: Run to the right to get the nomination and move to the center in the general election. This strategy is useless as the war escalates. He’s painted himself into a corner that will prevent him of having any chance of even getting the nomination because there are so many Republicans who are turning against this war also.

    Obviously, no one supporting this war will get the Democratic nomination, but as the casualties mount after this surge fails, I would say an anti-war Repulican would win the nomination for the GOP also.

    McCain should look out for a candidate like Chuck Hagel. The guy was a war hero and he has been staunchly against this war for a very long time now.

    I would like to see an Edwards/Obama ticket (GORE instead if he gets in)against a Hagel/Romney ticket.


  38. KikiD Says:

    “Giddy” is not how I feel when I hear Bush speak. In fact, I can’t stand to listen to him for more than a few seconds before I’m repelled by his evil-ness.

    Now Keith Olbermann is another story…(insert Homer Simpson “chocolate” sound)


  39. GSD Says:

    When Mark Foley toured Iraq he was greeted as Liberace.

    -GSD


  40. Tuber Says:

    McCain has been a liar and a political whore from the get go. He was able to successfully parlay his cowardice into political capital by nominating himself for sainthood due to his Vietnam POW experience. But his track record has no semblance of honor or integrity.

    At this stage of the game, I would even doubt his POW story. My guess is that he was a collaborator. That would explain his actions to date.

    Regardless, the guy is scum. If Arizona wants to keep this guy, then great. But he will never be elected president of this once great nation thank goodness.


  41. Loonie Says:

    Stupid McCain. The war is easy. All those people died because everything was so easy they became bored to death.

    So here is my impression of John McCain: DUH DUH I LIKE… THINGS. DUH I LIKE SHINY THINGS MOST BUT THINGS ARE … DUH… I LIKE.


  42. USA Says:

    33. Here’s the reality to counter-act your confusion. If you don’t pay your taxes you go to jail. UNDERSTAND?


  43. hellinabucket Says:

    Any quess on how many times GW will have that shit eating grin on his face after he spews his twisted logic? “It’s not a civil war” (shit eating grin and long painful pause). It’s like if he stares longer he wins. And we all lose.


  44. RUCerious Says:

    It is electric .
    Comment by rachel b

    Like 50,000 volts surging thru you…


  45. hellinabucket Says:

    make that guess instead of quess. Although could be a new word to describe that Bush face. Kind of Queazy and Guessing.


  46. unbelievable Says:

    we don’t get “giddy” when a Democrat speaks. We’re not groupies like you and your ilk.
    Comment by liberal press — January 10, 2007 @ 4:05 pm

    They seriously don’t get this aspect of us…. That we don’t need leaders to tell us what to think and then idolize them for telling us what to think.

    If they ever get the fact that they can work their brains all on their own, neoconism will be a thing of the past.


  47. Tuber Says:

    #44-bucket,

    He has to take those pauses because his base has trouble with big words like “strategy” or “occupation” or “the”.


  48. unbelievable Says:

    Jason ‘My Batteries are dead, too’, Hendler
    Comment by Zimzone — January 10, 2007 @ 4:22 pm

    Too funny!


  49. splooty pops Says:

    Well Mcain go after North Korea than they have WMD , Oh I forgot you only pick on helpless countries like Iraq that has been dissarmed …or countries that dont Have WMD like Iran


  50. Krazny Says:

    It’s electric allright, like an electric fence when you get to close.


  51. the fly-man Says:

    Great. So if the good Senator makes it to the White House will it be the McCaine mutiny that will save us? That movie just keeps sticking in my mind.


  52. unbelievable Says:

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying Laura Bs hotel bill when her and George get into a fight
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:15 pm

    Grammar aside, that is just silly rationalizing.

    $400,000 divided by 200 million tax payers equals $.002 per person. That’s hardly going to make anyone feel as bad as you’re hoping we will… Heck, I lose more money than that in the bottom of my purse.


  53. the fly-man Says:

    ” When Mark Foley toured Iraq he was greeted as Liberace.”
    -GSD, man that was another keeper!


  54. Tuber Says:

    #51-rachel,

    Now that the dems control the purse strings, you can be assured that YOUR tax dollars are going to go towards ending the Iraq Invasion. So, the actual question is - Will you quit your job and not pay taxes so that we can continue murdering Iraqis?


  55. unbelievable Says:

    Would you then quit working and not pay taxes to save Iraqi lives ?
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

    It’s actually come to this severely twisted logic? Damn, the Far Right has never been so desperate… LOL


  56. IraqVet Says:

    Did McCain get Agent Orange poisoning in his brain or something?

    The more I listen to this guy the more delusional he sounds!

    And THIS is supposed to the the REPUBLICAN MAVERICK everyone is talking about??? Sounds like BUSH JR. III to me…

    But hey, I don’t trust many REPUBLICANS that flip-flop more than Kerry in one single interview! But you don’t get quite the reaction because he happens to be a REPUG??? Hmmmmmm….


  57. USA Says:

    51. rachel b

    I’d like to answer your question, but it’s more important for you to seek mental health help.


  58. Juan C Says:

    McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’

    Like your mom. (sorry)
    Tell that to all the people that are dying there.


  59. unbelievable Says:

    If you all went on Dr . Phil
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:56 pm

    No normal, rational adult starts an intellectual sentance off like this… LOL


  60. rachel b Says:

    No normal, rational adult starts an intellectual sentance off like this… LOL

    Comment by unbelievable — January 10, 2007 @ 5:00 pm

    I can see you are none of the above based just on your spelling alone .


  61. unbelievable Says:

    I am independently wealthy . Our family has been since World War II .
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:59 pm

    That doesn’t stop you from paying taxes. Well, if you aren’t lying about it (which you probably are NOT considering your horrific redneck-quality spelling, grammar and Bush worship).


  62. USA Says:

    rachel b, your gitty for a infantile psychopath, and a genocidal muderer.

    So your a psychopath too.

    Your failing in the game of life, and no childish behavior will get you out.


  63. unbelievable Says:

    I can see you are none of the above based just on your spelling alone .
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 5:03 pm

    Like you would know. LOL


  64. oldtree Says:

    is this quote accurate for McPain? if so, he needs to get waders, a flotation device capable of his bulk and ego, fins, shark repellent, etc..

    it is clear he kept walking a little too far east and has gone off the deep end


  65. Bluedog49 Says:

    For your amusement and enjoyment, selected quotations and musings from a typical Bush supporter.

    “Here is a big flatulation for you .”

    “I will make you suffer the smell .”

    “I am getting back to being giddy about tnoight and George Bushs speaking engagement .
    You people are just jealous you have not been able to put a leader in office for a long long time. Not a BJ Clintonesque type leader either a real world leader like Bush . ”

    “Imagine this if you will .

    If you all went on Dr . Phil thinking you had a case he would soundly smack you down and send you home packing and tell all of you to grow up and get a life . ”

    Thank you rachel. That was great! Very illuminating and entertaining! Will you be here all week?


  66. mighty aphrodite Says:

    I think all the Progs and Progettes here should thank people like Rachel. Her tax bracket helps fund all you dedicated “public servants” and entitlement recipients…


  67. Bluedog49 Says:

    MA, nobody has flip-flopped more than John McCain. The only question is whether or not the talking heads will be able to waiver from the standard corporate-board approved script and stop referring to him as “Mr. Straight Talk.”


  68. unbelievable Says:

    sentance ?
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 5:04 pm

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is funding dem dublspeek

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying Bush to sit in Crawford Texas and watch the war on a bigtscreentv while eating greasy cheetos

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is buying Bushs next bottle of booze

    And everyone here who is paying taxes is paying Laura Bs hotel bill when her and George get into a fight

    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:15 pm

    How’s that glass house?


  69. paul Says:

    #1. Impeachment Impatience.

    “I am making extra effort to prove to them that an Arab dies with honour and dignity defending honourable principles,” Shams Deen quoted Saddam as saying.

    something the neocons need asap honor and dignity

    The guy doubles up on his workout and now he’s the greatest thing since slice bread. I’m glad you posted this sentiment because it shows just how twisted many on the left have become. If we are comparing Saddam to neocons, let me ask you a few questions:

    When Bush took office, did he call a session of Congress and execute a couple dozen congressmen to assert his leadership?

    Have the neocons used chemical weapons on citizens of the U.S?

    Does Bush steal billions from the treasury to build lavish palaces for himself?

    Are those in the Bush family free to rape or murder innocent Americans?

    If you question Bush’s leadership, would you be put to death?

    Your comparasions of Saddam and neocons is a ridiculous. The more moderate here have enabled you by allowing you to continue with your fantasy that Saddam is a good guy and the Bush administration is evil. There is plenty to complain about with the current administration, but please come back to reality, if you care to salvage any credibility.


  70. USA Says:

    Really it’s beyond psychopathy, this kind of behavior by rachel b is schizophrenia. A complete break with reality…it’s delusion. No rational discorse can take place with psychopaths, they just just laugh it off and continue on married to their delusions forever. And dismiss the facts when so many people keep telling her she is stupid.


  71. Juan C Says:

    Her tax bracket helps fund all you dedicated “public servants” and entitlement recipients…
    Comment by mighty aphrodite

    And how is that related to the topic? You know you have ADD syndrome?


  72. Bluedog49 Says:

    USA, the funniest (and saddest) study to come out of the Ivy League this year was the one at Princeton which concluded that schizophrenic people were much more likely to vote for Bush in 2004.


  73. ForTruth Says:

    When Bush took office, did he call a session of Congress and execute a couple dozen congressmen to assert his leadership?

    Symbolically, and in effect, yes.

    Have the neocons used chemical weapons on citizens of the U.S?

    If you consider the out-gassing of cheap Chinese products, yes

    Does Bush steal billions from the treasury to build lavish palaces for himself

    He did in different forms. Can you say “green zone”

    Are those in the Bush family free to rape or murder innocent Americans?

    Yes, raped us of our civil rights, finacial viability, and respect of the world community

    If you question Bush’s leadership, would you be put to death?

    Not too far off…


  74. USA Says:

    79. Haha, yeah I read that.


  75. USA Says:

    …it’s quite real.


  76. Tuber Says:

    #63-rachel,

    Gosh, only since WWII? So, you’re part of the Nuevo riche. Which explains your petulance and ignorance. Call back when you grow up newbie.


  77. unbelievable Says:

    When Bush took office, did he call a session of Congress and execute a couple dozen congressmen to assert his leadership?

    You are trying to compare a Democractic culture (ours) to a 5,000 year old culture that has always been violently competitive - and you cannot.

    However, there were liberal politicians who were sent Anthrax. Who knows who did that. It’s the same mentality.

    Have the neocons used chemical weapons on citizens of the U.S?

    (See anthrax comment above).

    Does Bush steal billions from the treasury to build lavish palaces for himself?

    Sort of… He steals billions for his friends to do this.

    Are those in the Bush family free to rape or murder innocent Americans?

    Innocent Iraqis. See the news articles on the soldiers who have been doing this in Bush’s name.

    If you question Bush’s leadership, would you be put to death?

    Valerie Plame can tell you that she could have been killed…

    Your comparasions of Saddam and neocons is a ridiculous.

    Not at all. Though, I consider Bush to be more like Charles Mansion - someone who orders others to commit murder for him.

    The more moderate here have enabled you by allowing you to continue with your fantasy that Saddam is a good guy and the Bush administration is evil.

    Saddam is not a good guy. But apparently the Iraqis were fine with him being leader as they did not rebell against him.

    Bush is not a good guy because he doesn’t shoot Congressmen. That’s a slippery slope of expectations to hold from your Preseident. No wonder we’ve wound up with a Democratic Dictator.

    There is plenty to complain about with the current administration, but please come back to reality, if you care to salvage any credibility.
    Comment by paul — January 10, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

    We don’t judge ourselves by your standards (e.g. A person is good as long as they don’t murder someone who disagrees with them).

    Bush has ultimately killed more people than Saddam.

    They BOTH are criminal. Only one of them can explain it as a part of his culture (i.e. the need to want peace in teh Middle East).


  78. ForTruth Says:

    Comment by Bluedog49

    One of my schizophrenic clients, whom I visited at his home, was vocal about how he is a Republican, and prefers to watch Fox News, seriously. And had the Fox on his TV.

    Being in mental health you do get to see all the crazies, and eventually you find out what their political stance is, if they have one.


  79. null Says:

    The only honorable thing McCain could do would be to commit suicide. Honestly.


  80. VerbalKint Says:

    McCain has become Bush’s court jester, his marionette, his puppet on a string. Pathetic, and scary.


  81. ForTruth Says:

    Unbelievable.

    We both sliced and diced that moron’s post, Paul’s.


  82. rachel b Says:

    I am independently wealthy . Our family has been since World War II .
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 4:59 pm

    That doesn’t stop you from paying taxes. Well, if you aren’t lying about it (which you probably are NOT considering your horrific redneck-quality spelling, grammar and Bush worship).

    Comment by unbelievable

    It does if you have shrewd tax attorneys and investors .
    Just as in WWII and VietNam this war is once again lining my families money coffers for generations to come .

    Keep paying your taxes you are making me absolutely wealthy beyond my wildest dreams .

    Anyone here need a new vehicle ot two ?
    I am tiring of my new Hummer and my new Jaguar XKE sliver ghost .


  83. USA Says:

    80. As a matter of fact, it’s not “indefensible”. Psychopaths often believe that if they simply claim a thing to be so, it will become truth. As your idea that what I am saying to you is “indefensible”. Sorry the world doesn’t work that way. You can run away if you want by making such delusional claims, but it does not make it true. And I’m not making inuenndos, I am as serious as a heart attack; you are a psychopath.


  84. unbelievable Says:

    I shortwrote those words to save space .
    I wouldnt expect you to understand about saving TPs blogspace
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 5:23 pm

    Liar. And that doesn’t explain the bad grammar considering that ‘her’ and ’she’ have the same number of letters, but ’she’ is the grammatically correct option. Or the fact that you can’t properly punctuate possessives. A ‘ doesn’t really take up enough bandwidth to leave it out.


  85. Bluedog49 Says:

    rachel: “I shortwrote those words to save space .”

    Oh, you “shortwrote” those things for our convenience. Is “shortwriting” something you learned in home schooling?


  86. Juan C Says:

    Have the neocons used chemical weapons on citizens of the U.S?
    Comment by paul

    So if it is not against US citizens, he is not that bad? Ha ha. Anyway is good to see that you finally recognize that necons HAVE used chemical weapons against other people. Hell, US has been using chemical weapons since WWI.

    Does Bush steal billions from the treasury to build lavish palaces for himself?
    Not quite, but hows that fabulous embassy he is getting built in Iraq going?

    Your comparasions of Saddam and neocons is a ridiculous.
    Not quite. US government has killed more people in this planet that Saddam ever dreamed of.

    but please come back to reality, if you care to salvage any credibility.
    It would be nice that you do that some day.


  87. ForTruth Says:

    Rachel,

    You remind me of a troll not too long ago who blathered on about making 2 billion dollars since Bush has been in office.

    We didn’t believe you then, we don’t now. If you were that wealthy, one would wonder if you had better things to do. Unless you are just an ugly version of Paris Hilton.


  88. USA Says:

    Yeah, that’s very cute, rachel b, you can immitate a crazy person.


  89. VerbalKint Says:

    Speaking of pathetic, lying jokes, how about that rachel b. A liar if I have ever seen one. Just trying to push buttons here, and not doing a very good job of it.


  90. unbelievable Says:

    We both sliced and diced that moron’s post, Paul’s.
    Comment by ForTruth — January 10, 2007 @ 5:29 pm

    Blinded by their party loyalty, neocons can’t see the truth so they have to blame us. I’ve come to expect nothing else from them.


  91. VerbalKint Says:

    Rachel,
    You remind me of a troll not too long ago who blathered on about making 2 billion dollars since Bush has been in office.
    Comment by ForTruth — January 10, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

    Doesn’t she? Yeah, she’s lying. Probably the same troll. Pathetic.


  92. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    ForTruth 95

    Ding, ding, ding - we have a winner. You are absolutely on top of it, ForTruth! Put rachel b on the “do not respond” list - its just trolling for blog attention.


  93. Juan C Says:

    Unless you are just an ugly version of Paris Hilton.
    Comment by ForTruth

    You mean uglier??? Is that possible? I have seen parked trailers more graceful than that Hilton girl.


  94. unbelievable Says:

    As a matter of fact, it’s not “indefensible”. Psychopaths often believe that if they simply claim a thing to be so, it will become truth.
    Comment by USA — January 10, 2007 @ 5:32 pm

    Like this?

    I am tiring of my new Hummer and my new Jaguar XKE sliver ghost .
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 5:30 pm


  95. VerbalKint Says:

    And that guy Paul is a real mess, too. Drowning in kool-aid. At some point Paul will have to go through a hard withdrawal from the kool-aid to return to sober reality.


  96. ForTruth Says:

    Speaking of Neocons’ blame, game…

    The GOPER mom in law has been talking shit about how now that Dems are back in some form of power, there won’t be an inheritance left. I don’t give a shit, they aren’t rich, like they think they are, and the woman has a disorder and cannot stop wastful spending. Now she gets to blame it on the Dems. I already said the Dems are getting set up to take the blame for Iraq too. Those GOPers are best at deflection, and spin. They seem to spend all their time and energy avoiding personal responsibility.


  97. unbelievable Says:

    Unless you are just an ugly version of Paris Hilton.
    Comment by ForTruth — January 10, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

    Yes, Rachel is hideously ugly.

    Otherwise she’d be on Laguna Beach or The Bachelor with the rest of the bored debutantes..


  98. ForTruth Says:

    Paul had no clue his dumb post would be handed back to him along with his ass. Heh.


  99. Zoo Says:

    You mean uglier??? Is that possible? I have seen parked trailers more graceful than that Hilton girl.
    Comment by Juan C

    Oy. Ouch. Heh. :)


  100. unbelievable Says:

    “Cancer will impact one in two men and one in three women in their lifetime. It is devastating and it is pervasive. In fact, every year 1.3 million Americans are diagnosed with cancer.”

    “However, our nation’s second-leading killer did not make the list of issues that our candidates used to get people to the polls last November. Anyone with a television or access to a newspaper can list the ballot box issues that occupied our candidates’ attention — they range from bickering to very real concerns and challenges.”

    –Lance Armstrong

    (http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/01/10/armstrong.guestcommentary/index.html)

    Yet we fear the boogeyman under the bed and allow our tax dollars to be spent on fighting ideas rather than realities.


  101. ForTruth Says:

    I love this TP community, (except for trolls, well, I take that back, I love them too).


  102. ForTruth Says:

    Brittney makes Paris look graceful. Just a little sidebar.


  103. paul Says:

    #85. Unbelievable.

    Bush is not a good guy because he doesn’t shoot Congressmen. That’s a slippery slope of expectations to hold from your Preseident. No wonder we’ve wound up with a Democratic Dictator.

    I’ll spell it out, because I guess I need to. That is not an expectation for our leadership, but it is equivalent to something Saddam did. When he took leadership in 1979, there is tape of him in front of an Iraqi parlimentary assembly he calls the names of approximately 20 of those in attendance. The men stand up and are escorted out by police to be executed on the spot.

    I was asking the question to point out that there is no Bush equivalent action. The original post points to Saddam as highly honorable and insinuates that neocons are less honorable then he is. I may be the moron (according to ForTruth), but this logic may be hard sell to those who live in reality.


  104. unbelievable Says:

    Paul had no clue his dumb post would be handed back to him along with his ass. Heh.
    Comment by ForTruth — January 10, 2007 @ 5:43 pm

    Mostly likely because he didn’t come up with it. He probably heard it somewhere and then just repeated it here, thinking it was a convincing argument.

    Always underestimating us, because they have no frame of “thinking for yourself’ reference I suppose, he didn’t have a response to what you or I told him.


  105. unbelievable Says:

    Writing in Human Events, right-wing icon Oliver North argues, “Sending more U. S. combat troops [to Iraq] is simply sending more targets.”

    http://www.buzzflash.com/?track=Head


  106. Zoo Says:

    Brittney makes Paris look graceful. Just a little sidebar.
    Comment by ForTruth

    Well, Paris does attempt to keep her cooch undercover.


  107. Tuber Says:

    #108-unbelievable,

    Don’t give Armstrong too many props here. He is only complaining now that the dems have taken over and will most assuredly address this shortcoming. However, he didn’t say anything when his “buddies” were running the show. In fact, he campaigned for them.

    Armstrong is an opportunist with no balls. Literally.


  108. Juan C Says:

    –Lance Armstrong
    Comment by unbelievable

    Didnt thought he was that smart, UnB. Well said.

    Brittney makes Paris look graceful. Just a little sidebar.
    Comment by ForTruth

    Britney, Paris…there are like a hundred lookalikes in Cancun any springbreak. Now, Lisboa, Prague and Buenos Aires…there you can find beautiful women… heh.



  109. VerbalKint Says:

    Profile of rachel b:

    Male, 18-25 years old, below average intelligence, unemployed, lives in parent’s basement, never kissed another boy or girl.


  110. ForTruth Says:

    Comment by Juan C

    Damn Juan, I want to hang out with you on vacation.


  111. Bluedog49 Says:

    Paul: “When he took leadership in 1979, there is tape of him in front of an Iraqi parlimentary assembly he calls the names of approximately 20 of those in attendance. The men stand up and are escorted out by police to be executed on the spot.”

    Yes, and we now know that he was a CIA asset at the time and receiving intelligence, money and weapons from us. Say, who was the CIA director at that time, anyway?


  112. VerbalKint Says:

    Don’t forget Costa Rica, Juan. The place is crawling with beautiful women.


  113. ForTruth Says:

    Comment by Tuber

    He doesn’t even have one? I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.


  114. ForTruth Says:

    Paul,

    I never thought Saddam was honorable. Don’t lump me in lumpy.


  115. unbelievable Says:

    I’ll spell it out, because I guess I need to. That is not an expectation for our leadership, but it is equivalent to something Saddam did. When he took leadership in 1979, there is tape of him in front of an Iraqi parlimentary assembly he calls the names of approximately 20 of those in attendance. The men stand up and are escorted out by police to be executed on the spot.

    Fair enough. And I’ll spell it out for you in return.

    Saddam was assisted to power by the CIA, and supported by the US government.

    So, in essence, we cannot claim the moral high road. Saddam was Saddam because we made him what he was.

    I was asking the question to point out that there is no Bush equivalent action.

    ForTruth and I gave you several. You choose not to accept them. That’s why we are a very divided country.

    The original post points to Saddam as highly honorable and insinuates that neocons are less honorable then he is.

    Saddam, inhis culture, may have been more honorable than Bush is without our culture. You have to understand teh disparity in order to understand that when you factor for cultural diversity, Bush is less honorable.

    This does not make Saddam honorable in our terms (truth is subjective), and it does not free Bush from adjusted comparisions.

    I may be the moron (according to ForTruth), but this logic may be hard sell to those who live in reality.
    Comment by paul — January 10, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

    Who exactly do you think lives in reality paul?

    The 20% of the US who support Bush or the 80% of the US and 95% of the rest of the world who think Bush is the bigger criminal as he’s been responsible for more murder and destruction?


  116. RUCerious Says:

    #118 - VK - does the mirror count?


  117. ForTruth Says:

    Well, Paris does attempt to keep her cooch undercover.

    Comment by Zoo

    Unless its a crappy, night-vision, sex video.


  118. unbelievable Says:

    Don’t give Armstrong too many props here.

    My post was more about the issue than Lance Armstrong. I gave him credit for his words.

    I have been saying that the neocons are so absorbed in something that will mostly likely never harm them while ignoring things that will. This article from CNN was further validation.

    He is only complaining now that the dems have taken over and will most assuredly address this shortcoming.

    Better than complaining to deaf ears I would imagine.

    However, he didn’t say anything when his “buddies” were running the show. In fact, he campaigned for them.

    Maybe he’s changing his mind. I once did.

    Armstrong is an opportunist with no balls. Literally.
    Comment by Tuber — January 10, 2007 @ 5:52 pm

    Maybe, but it doesn’t make his message any less valid.

    I’ve lost zero people I’ve ever known to radical Islamic activities. Conversely, I can’t count the number of people I’ve known who’ve had and/or died from cancer.

    The ‘terrorist’ scare is the wrong focus of our resources…


  119. Stingray Says:

    Paul. You are a moron. If you can’t see that Saddam Hussein was an honorable man, than you are also an idiot. I would rather live under a true leader like Hussein than GWB any day. Keep drinking the kool-aid, you loser.


  120. Gregor Samsa Says:

    rachel b = angie from GA

    It’s the same $70M moron (or was it $7M, or $700M? Who knows, he kept changing the amount with every post) who supposedly is a war profiteer and is making a boat load of money in this war.

    Some people have way too much time on their hands…


  121. Gregor Samsa Says:

    On topic,

    This latest statement by McCain is simply appalling by the sheer falsehood of its claims.

    “Easy”? “Greeting as liberators”? sshheess… I am speechless… so much for the “maverick”, “straight talk” McCain.


  122. ScrewBush Says:

    It’s Now Confirmed !!!

    McCain is the right, right, right, wingnut successor to Bush. He’s bought the dream, lives in the dream, talks the dream… IT’S JUST A BAD DREAM.


  123. Bluedog49 Says:

    Stingray: “If you can’t see that Saddam Hussein was an honorable man, than you are also an idiot. I would rather live under a true leader like Hussein than GWB any day.”

    That’s a very lame effort even for a pathetic Bush cultist.


  124. Hector Garcia Says:

    So this bastard has not seen any of the countless youtube videos where our beloved troops are butchered and slaughtered in Irak……

    This moron will watch his own son’s death live on youtube someday….so far does his stupidity go…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrpVn8qXIzQ

    These scenes are terrible….but will help you to understand the absurdity of war…


  125. War4Sale Says:

    McCain is either very, very dishonest or he simply doesn’t understand the nature of guerillia warfare. Major combat operations are ongoing, which is precisely why Dumbya wants to send more troops.

    There’s a reason why insurgents choose assymetrical warfare - it works!


  126. Mikey Says:

    #90 I am tiring of my new Hummer and my new Jaguar XKE sliver ghost .

    Comment by rachel b

    Sorry rachel, there is no such thing as a Jaguar XKE sliver ghost (no such thing as an XKE silver ghost either). A silver ghost is a Rolls Royce model.

    You’re pathetic.


  127. rachel b Says:

    A silver ghost is a Rolls Royce model.

    You’re pathetic.

    Comment by Mikey

    Mine is a dealer special edition and it is a silver one they called the silver ghost . It is a hopped up dealers only special addition that added 46,000 US dollars to the bill .

    Any other asinine questions ?

    I know what a Rolls Royce is dear .
    It definitely is not one of those .


  128. George Says:

    Why do reporters continue to interview him? He just says whatever he wants, he contradicts himself all the time, no one calls him on it, and what he says is void of substance!


  129. Karim Says:

    McCain is a sell-out.


  130. Brad Says:

    Your taking this comment out of context. He was refering to the invasion, not the policing afterwards.

    We won the war but have lost the peace.


  131. ItsJustKarma Says:

    Another candidate for frontal lobotomy.


  132. unbelievable Says:

    Any other asinine questions ?
    Comment by rachel b — January 10, 2007 @ 7:46 pm

    You tell us - you’re the one asking them.


  133. The Heretik : The Staggering Reality Says:

    […] If the unconvincing Bush lacked conviction, at least he’s can’t run for president again. John McCain may need to run right past his comments today about the easy war. Time Russert hardly had to try to pull this out. RUSSERT: Go back, Senator, to 2002. The administration saying we would be greeting as liberators. John McCain saying you thought success would be fairly easy. […]


  134. Cititzen J Says:

    136- You’re so full of it. “Hopped up dealers only special edition”, what crap. Super extra DOUBLE secret!!

    There’s no such car, you transparently pathetic tool. You’re such a joke, you can’t even muster up an angry response from THIS crowd.

    Nah, we just laugh at you.

    Your handlers aren’t going to be happy, and you probably won’t get paid. Bummer, huh?


  135. Cititzen J Says:

    “We won the war”- who were we warring against, again? WHAT “enemy” did we defeat that attacked us, and for WHAT purpose?

    Wake up. Or do you actually like being one of the dumbest amongst us? A proud member of the Dumbest of the Dumb Club, the 20-percenters.


  136. sister mary martha Says:

    Holy cow! I was reading the comments here….a message board!!! And we hope the people in Iraq will suddenly stop fighting! Fat chance.


  137. unbelievable Says:

    And we hope the people in Iraq will suddenly stop fighting! Fat chance.
    Comment by sister mary martha — January 10, 2007 @ 10:35 pm

    There’s a huge difference between verbal sparring in a blog and blowing up someone’s entire family.

    You really shouldn’t be hanging around all of us godless heathens. you know…


  138. Shaking Fist Says:

    The sick SOB knows those films of jubilant Iraqi’s were just a handful of paid stooges.


  139. rachel b Says:

    The sick SOB knows those films of jubilant Iraqi’s were just a handful of paid stooges.

    Comment by Shaking Fist

    They are paid employees of the CIA *snitches*
    This is one huge CIA operation gone awry from the very beginning
    All the way back to the Reagan years through VP GHWB *Bush I*


  140. Dear Kitty. Some blog :: George W Bush: 600, 000 dead Iraqis, 3,000 dead US soldiers, are still not enough :: January :: 2007 Says:

    […] This decision to escalate the US military intervention is a direct repudiation of the results of the 2006 congressional elections, in which millions of American voters expressed their opposition to the war in Iraq by putting an end to Republican control of the Senate and House of Representatives. Bush’s fellow Republican, Senator McCain, like many other Bush supporters, claimed in 2002 that the Iraq war would be ‘easy’ … and still defends that view today … Comments » […]


  141. Joe Cortez Says:

    It’s disconcerting to hear polititians assert lies in the face of stark reality. Even more frightening is the fact that this guy could be our next president.


  142. Adam Ghaznavi Says:

    The claim about the so called `being greeted as liberators’ when USA forces entered Baghdad is a good example of Orwellian propaganda. If you look carefully at the footage of the demolition of the statue of Saddam Hussein, most of the barely a couple of hundred people in the film footage are journalists. Now you can argue this was due to fear of Saddam Hussein or uncertainty or whatever. But to claim this represented a mass outpuring is as big a load of pony as the `evidence’ of Saddam’s linkage with Al Qaeda that was `found’ in the (anti Kurdish al Qaeda off shoot) Ansa Al Islam’s camp; puporting to show a cartoonish comically ugly Saddam 9a veritable Arabian `Butthead’ of Beavis & Butthead) fellating an enormous cigar while the twin towers hit by planes in the background.
    Just 2 problems. First ascetic Muslims believe in the death penalty for smoking. Second Saddam believed in the death penalty for anyone that made him look ugly. Apart from that, damn convincing evidence.


  143. McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’ | Outlaw News Says:

    […] McCain: Iraq War Was ‘Easy’ Think Progress / January 11, 2007 […]


  144. joeslogic Says:

    Major combat operations have been over for years. You folks are laughably clueless. Yet at the same time it’s scary really. Totally brainwashed. The Iraq war is over we are still however at war with Terrorism. You know the terrorism that Clinton caused against us?


  145. Jim Kevin Says:

    Well, we always knew that as the adminsitration’s lies unraveled, they would get more and more desperate. I hadn’t figured that the administration’s supporter’s, like McCain, would blow a fuse and become insane quite so quickly. I think we can assume that McCain’s chances for the White House are poor and diminishing quickly. So, that leaves Romney and Guiliani from the Republican side. They will eat each other alive over the next 2 years. These kind of people eat their young, if necessary.

    Maybe Hillary has a good shot after all! Though, if she starts twiddling to the center, in my opinion, we can count her out, too.

    Could there really be a President Kucinich! Yeah!


  146. The Sarah Says:

    hahaha. i’m doing a project on John McCian and i wanted some pictures of him in the war..Also please tell me if he is for the war or not for it.(i think he is) and last but nt lease;;;….what is his Education.?????????

    Thanks,
    Sarah


  147. The Sarah Says:

    hahaha. i’m doing a project on John McCian and i wanted some pictures of him in the war..Also please tell me if he is for the war or not for it.(i think he is) and last but nt lease;;;….what is his Education.?????????

    Thanks,
    Sarah



  148. Think Progress » Blog Archive » Cheney Five Years Ago: ‘We Will, In Fact, Be Greeted As Liberators’ Says:

    […] by “most Iraqis.” And following Cheney’s lead once again, McCain said in Jan. 2007, “We were greeted as liberators,” adding that the Iraq war was […]


  149. Think Progress » Blog Archive » Graham Claims McCain ‘Has Never Said That This War Would Be Easy’ Says:

    […] even reflected on the war last year and said, “it was easy.” “Well, it was easy. It was easy. I said we — a military operation would be easy. It […]



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