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Matthews Battles Snow Over Iran Attack, Says He Fears ‘Extra-Constitutional War’»

Tonight on MSNBC, Chris Matthews aggressively questioned White House Press Secretary Tony Snow about whether President Bush’s rhetoric last night was a “precursor for a rationale for an attack” on Iran.

Matthews said he feared the Bush administration would use a skirmish with Iranian fighters in Iraq as a reason to “bomb the hell out of them and hit their nuclear installations without any without any action by Congress. That’s the scenario I fear, an extra-constitutional war is what I’m worried about.” Snow told Matthews “you have been watching too many old movies,” but Matthews interrupted. “No, I’ve been watching the war in Iraq, is what I’ve been watching.” Watch it:

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MATTHEWS: Well, he did say we’re gonna disrupt the attacks on our forces. “We will interrupt the flow of support from Iran.” Does that mean stopping at the Iranian border or going into Iran?

SNOW: Well, again, I think what the president’s talking about is the war in Iraq, Chris.

MATTHEWS: So he will seek congressional approval before any action against Iran?

SNOW: You are talking about something we are not even discussing.

MATTHEWS: Yeah, but you are, Tony, because look at this. “I recently ordered the deployment of an additional carrier strike group to the region.” Isn’t that about Iran?

SNOW: It, it — yeah, it is, in part, and what it is is it’s saying, look, we are going to make sure that anybody who tries to take aggressive action — but when Bill Clinton sent a carrier task force into the South China Sea after the North Koreans fired a missile over Japan, that was not as a prelude to war against North Korea. You know how it works.

MATTHEWS: No, I’m just concerned because, very much in the years, in the months building up to this war in Iraq, we heard a kind of a drumbeat of the dangers from Iraq and the nuclear weaponry and what we’re going to do about it, and then gradually we went to war. And I’m just wondering we’re looking here at the precursor for a rationale for an attack of some kind on — you say — I’ll take it at your word. If the president is not going to attack Iran, we’ll move on.

SNOW: Ok, but, let me just do a couple of things here. I think you understand and most Americans understand Iran is the foremost financier of global terror. It’s a problem. But you don’t deal with everything militarily, as you know. The United States exhausted all diplomatic options before going into Iraq, and I think what you’re doing if you’re trying to go down the road of speculation that is just way ahead of events. Right now, we’re working on making Iraq a success. One other thing about Iran, Chris. The Iranian public, most which of is young, is very pro-American. We got a lot of people —

MATTHEWS: Boy, do I agree with you on that. Completely agree with you. My concern is we’re gonna see a ginning up situation whereby we fall in hot pursuit any effort by the Iranians to interfere with Iraq. We take a couple shots at them, they react, then we bomb the hell out of them and hit their nuclear installations without any without any action by Congress. That’s the scenario I fear, an extra-constitutional war is what I’m worried about.

SNOW: Well, you have been watching too many old movies —

MATTHEWS: No, I’ve been watching the war in Iraq, is what I’ve been watching. As long as you say to me before we leave tonight that the president has to get approval from Congress before making war on Iran.

SNOW: Let me put it this way. The president understands you got to have public support for whatever you do. The reason we are talking to the American public about the high takes in Iraq and why it is absolutely vital to succeed is you’ve got to have public support, and the president certainly, whenever he’s taken major actions, he has gone before Congress.

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265 Responses to “Matthews Battles Snow Over Iran Attack, Says He Fears ‘Extra-Constitutional War’”


  1. Hardy Haberman Says:

    Congressional approval? We don need no stinkin’ Congressional approval!

    El Dictator will make the decisioins and Congress will just have to shut up. Remember Bush acts outside the constitution!


  2. big papa Says:

    …bombing the Iranians to cover our tracks in Iraq, prolong the money-making scheme, stave off the inevitable troop withdrawal and FAILURE of his IRAQ folly, and incite the inbred faithful to one last NATIONALISTIC FRENZY…

    BRILLIANT!


  3. Uncle_Ho Says:

    “If we can not win the war, we will drag half the world into the abyss with us.”- Adolf Hitler

    Bush is following in his idol’s footsteps.


  4. dixie blood Says:

    #4 - Uncle_Ho,

    On point sir!!


  5. Rebel In CA Says:

    Uncle-Ho

    Indeed.

    Except this time the entire world will be dragged into the abyss of nuclear winter as Israel uses mini-nukes. The logic is unfathomable.


  6. DoubtingThomas Says:

    Did I hear Snow say “before you take action like going to war, you’ve got to have public support”? (Paraphrased). WOuld that extend to a surge without an end, which is actually a non-escalation of a war that is really augmenting troops with 22,000 more and 100B? I guess the public supports the new non-escalatorious augmentorious surgency, then.


  7. theswan Says:

    Chris knows it is coming. Can’t his come-on be better than this? Bush Media!


  8. Mikey Says:

    …Tony Snow!! You are useless… - Comment by dixie blood

    I wouldn’t say he’s useless. I would use him as way to define the term

    slimy piece of shit


  9. ChildrenofLir Says:

    Matthews is bringing it up again with next guest Haass


  10. dixie blood Says:

    Don’t you mean his grand fathers friend’s footsteps?

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — January 11, 2007 @ 7:19 pm

    Spudge,

    I appreciate your historical knowledge! Prescott Botch was a Nazi war bond seller, Nazi simpathizer, and an un-American banker to the Nazi movement!!


  11. anime Says:

    Breaking: U.S. forces storm Iranian consulate in Kurdish Iraq.

    Isn’ t this an act of war?

    http://rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ US_forces_storm_Iranian_consulate_i_01112007.html


  12. Gregor Samsa Says:

    The United States exhausted all diplomatic options before going into Iraq

    Not true. The inspection team was asking for more time to certify that Iraq was a WMD-free zone. Pres Bush decided to launch an invasion instead.

    You are talking about something we are not even discussing.

    He is such a bad liar. He got caught in this one lie in the follow-up question. How stupid.

    most Americans understand Iran is the foremost financier of global terror.

    Translation: We used the same lies with Iraq and it worked very well. Why not use them again?

    The Iranian public, most which of is young, is very pro-American.

    Translation: We will be greeted as liberators.

    The president understands you got to have public support for whatever you do.

    Translation: The president is aware of the need to catapult the propaganda.

    whenever he’s taken major actions, he has gone before Congress.

    Translation: He’s also aware of the need to manipulate the intelligence and to fix the facts around the policy in order to get Congressional approval.


  13. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    dixie blood YOU are useless! Go back to school and get an education before you show your total IGNORANCE. You don’t ADD anything positive to this discussion.


  14. ChildrenofLir Says:

    a consulate is the residence or workplace of a consul. Doesn’t appear to be the same as an embassy, which is considered to be the soil of the country.


  15. katy Says:

    well, good on you, chris…


  16. ChildrenofLir Says:

    PRescott Bush funnelled money to Hitler’s SS troops helping Hitler rise to power. Bush also managed a Polish mine which used slave labor from Auschwitz before and during WWII.

    Dixie Blood ain’t wrong

    Go home Sir Greg Nevins


  17. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    “If we can not win the war, we will drag half the world into the abyss with us.”- Adolf Hitler

    Dear Uncle HOE, it is people like you and that dixie blood are precisely ther people that allowed HITLER to KILL Tens of thousands of people during the HOLOCAUST!!!! The BLOOD of all those dead people are ON YOUR HANDS!!!

    All your Left Wing Liberal Democrats konw is APPEASEMENT, SURRENDER, and RUN AND HIDE UNDER YOUR BED!!!! Don’t ridicule our Great Commander-in-Chief… He is doing a GREAT JOB Protecting this Country from the Terrorists!!!!!! Go DRINK SOME MORE KOOL AID…..


  18. Zoo Says:

    You don’t ADD anything positive to this discussion.
    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Pot, meet Kettle….


  19. WaltTheMan Says:

    “Gee - Tony, you’re doing one heck of a job - could you get to Brownie’s level of competance sometime soon?” - G. W. Bush 01/11/2007.


  20. dixie blood Says:

    #15,

    And what have you added? Nothing!!

    I have evidence that Tony Snow is useless (and now you too) give me some evidence that proves I’m useless…WOMBAT!!


  21. Zep Tepi Says:

    dixie blood YOU are useless! Go back to school and get an education before you show your total IGNORANCE. You don’t ADD anything positive to this discussion.

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Sir Greg, your education, and raising, states you should not lord your intelligence over another, and you should work to educate the masses.


  22. Wayne Says:

    omg, Tweety finally grew a pair and is confronting Bushco.
    Need to check the current temperature in Hell now……


  23. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    The United States exhausted all diplomatic options before going into Iraq

    That is Absolutely true. The inspection team was asking for more time to certify that Iraq was a WMD-free zone. The weapons inspectors were the KEYSTONE COPS — A COMEDY TEAM and COMPLETE IDIOTS!!!!!


  24. Zep Tepi Says:

    Do I speak wrongly sir Greg?


  25. ChildrenofLir Says:

    Greg Nevins

    Bush’s grandfather was a nazi supporter and financer. It took the US congress to force him to stop trading with the enemy DURING WWII while his son was in the US military.

    Prescott Bush was guilty of trading with the enemy during wartime. The Bush’s will do anything for money.

    You need to clean the muck out of your brain.


  26. Zep Tepi Says:

    be the bigger man Gregory.


  27. Uncle_Ho Says:

    Spudge, maybe I could have phrased it better, but what I intended was W. is going down the same path his beloved fuhrer did.

    “It would be easier in a dictatorship, as long as I’m the dictator.” “the Constitution is just a god damned piece of paper.”-George W. Bush


  28. Wayne Says:

    dixie blood YOU are useless! Go back to school and get an education before you show your total IGNORANCE. You don’t ADD anything positive to this discussion.

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    And what did you bring to the discussion other than attacking another poster? Nil

    Grow a brain Sir Asswipe.


  29. rachel b Says:

    Look how hungover or strung out whichever , Snow looks .
    He is definitely putting some type of substance into his body .


  30. mrJJ Says:

    Bubble Boy Bush better tread very, very carefully. China will not allow anyone to interfere with its Energy supplies… Russia would also be involved. If Bush tries to play the Iran card China will intercede…


  31. Uncle_Ho Says:

    Shit-for-brains Greg Nevins. If Bush had been in Vietnam, he would have been fragged, in his first week in-country.


  32. Earthling Says:

    Tony Snow is just cranky and out of sorts. He’s been bending over and taking it dry from Bush for too long. He’s nothing more than Bush’s butt-boy. And long after Bush’s impeachment, Snow will be remembered as the man who sold out the United States and the American people, a treasonous traitor who traded his soul for a place in Bush’s inner-circle. What a shameful little twit he is.


  33. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    be the bigger man Gregory.

    Dear Zep Tepi — I have NO USE for LEFT WING LIBERAL ASS HOLES!!!! As you can see they are ALL over this Blog spewing all of their MORONIC Babble!!!! They can’t help it because they ALL have peanut sized Brains like the WORST PRESIDENT ever Elected in thei Country — Jimmy Carter!!!

    He was the BIGGEST DISASTER to ever happen to this Country!!!!


  34. Zep Tepi Says:

    dixie blood YOU are useless! Go back to school and get an education before you show your total IGNORANCE. You don’t ADD anything positive to this discussion.

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Sir,forget your bias.


  35. dixie blood Says:

    #34-Uncle_Ho,

    I disagree. Fragged on the first leg of a long flight there. 8-))


  36. Wayne Says:

    All your Left Wing Liberal Democrats konw is APPEASEMENT, SURRENDER, and RUN AND HIDE UNDER YOUR BED!!!! Don’t ridicule our Great Commander-in-Chief… He is doing a GREAT JOB Protecting this Country from the Terrorists!!!!!! Go DRINK SOME MORE KOOL AID…..

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Now I see you are a fake “sir”, not british. You are just a neocon boot licker, one of the moronic 30 percenters.
    You are the one that brings nothing to the discussion and just insults other posters.

    Koolaide is strong with this one, it is.

    shoo Troll.


  37. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Dumb fu*k Spudge Boy, Adolph Hitler founded the Nazi party, whether you like it or not. Ted Kennedy is a MURDERER and a DRUNK — go complain about him… then your Mentally Challenged Messages might mean something!!!!!


  38. Hector Garcia Says:

    Grow some balls Peg Nevins.We don’t need cowards to write crap in this blog.


  39. Zep Tepi Says:

    Dear Zep Tepi — I have NO USE for LEFT WING LIBERAL ASS HOLES!!!
    I understand, yet you are a liberal yourself.

    Else you would be theocratic and live under strict rule.


  40. Tuber Says:

    #25 Ms. Greg Nevins,

    If the folks (weapons inspectors) who were correct about Iraq’s WMD status were COMPLETE IDIOTS, then what does that make the bush admin (and folks like yourself) who were wrong? Monumental Morons? Galacticly Incompetent? Just getting some context here.

    And, you are far too shrill. I would recommend that you pull your head out of whatever orifice that you have it jammed into that is causing your brain to be deprived of oxygen. You will feel much better.


  41. Earthling Says:

    “Sir” Greg — people like you who love Bush are the biggest disaster to ever happen to this country. America has a lot of house cleaning to do, starting with impeaching Bush, Cheney et al. Then we’re going silence the likes of you. This country has tolerated Bush and your ilk for entirely too long. The days of being nice to traitors like you are over. Get used to it. Your preciously little Georgie W. Bush is going to get spanked for the first time in his life. Bush is lucky it’s the United States that he’s screwing over. If he were anywhere else, he’d suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein. And frankly, he deserves it more than Saddam Hussein did. Now, shut your pie hole. Your comments are neither needed nor desired.


  42. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    SPOOGE BOY,

    Dumb a$$, post proof that Prescott Bush helped fund the Nazi party or STFU. You probably two busy choking your chicken — a common problem among Left Wing Liberal JERKS!!!!!!


  43. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Shit-for-brains Sir Greg. If Bush had been in Vietnam, he would have been fragged, in his first week in-country. When John Kerry was in Vietnam, he shot himself in the leg and then NOMINATED HIMSELF for a Purple Heart!!! What a Fricken ASS HOLE!!!!!

    Dear Uncle_Ho — Go crawl under some rock because I am getting tired of reading your BS!!!!!!


  44. Zep Tepi Says:

    Dumb fu*k Spudge Boy, Adolph Hitler founded the Nazi party, whether you like it or not. Ted Kennedy is a MURDERER and a DRUNK — go complain about him… then your Mentally Challenged Messages might mean something!!!!!

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Sir, you have hate in your heart. Do not let it eat your mind. Moderation is your answer.


  45. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Grow some balls SIR Gre.We don’t need cowards to write crap in this blog.

    Dear Hector Garcia ,
    I strongly SUGGEST you take your own advice beacuse YOU BORE ME!!!!


  46. Uncle_Ho Says:

    dixie, If I had known what he would become and survived the long flight to the Nam, I would have been the one to frag his sorry ass the first night. I learned some real slick tricks rigging booby traps using hand grenades.


  47. Earthling Says:

    Obviously, “Sir” Greg you have access to the internet. So, obviously then, you are able to find this information for yourself. Since you’re too lazy to do the research on your own, here’s what you’re looking for. There are thousands of articles on the subject. Here’s just one: http://www.guardian.co.uk/ usa/ story/ 0,12271,1312540,00.html

    Read it and shut your mouth idiot. Again, Americans are tired of you and your ilk. We will not allow you to ruin our country. Like Bush, you will be stopped in your tracks.


  48. Zep Tepi Says:

    Dear Uncle_Ho — Go crawl under some rock because I am getting tired of reading your BS!!!!!!

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Sir Greg do not let words cause you emote or anger.


  49. Hector Garcia Says:

    If Bush had served in Vietnam, he would spend 100% of his time smoking opium and shagging sheep.

    Guaranteed.


  50. Zep Tepi Says:

    Dumb a$$, post proof that Prescott Bush helped fund the Nazi party or STFU. You probably two busy choking your chicken — a common problem among Left Wing Liberal JERKS!!!!!!

    All men jerk their chicken Sir.


  51. dixie blood Says:

    #46-Sir(ly)

    Here’s a link to the Nazi involement of the Bush family…Don’t get me started!!!

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/ usa/ story/ 0,12271,1312540,00.html

    Refute this!!

    I got more!!!

    Look into the Harriman family!!!!

    STUPID!!


  52. Earthling Says:

    “Sir” Greg — if you are tired of reading what you consider BS, then get off this website. No one twisted your arm to be here, and frankly, no one wants you here because you are really, really brainwashed and stupid. Really. Quit embarassing yourself. It’s unseemly for a “knighted” one to behave to badly. Stop now, or I’ll tell on you to the Queen. Ta ta, a–hole.


  53. WaltTheMan Says:

    #25 - Sir Greg Nevins

    The United States

    exhausted

    ignored all diplomatic options before going into Iraq


  54. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Dear Zep Tepi — I have NO USE for LEFT WING LIBERAL ASS HOLES!!!
    I understand, yet you are a liberal yourself.

    Else you would be theocratic and live under strict rule.

    I am a Compassionate Conservative Loyal Republican and a Member of the Republican Presidential Task Force…. I put my MONEY where my mouth is ASS HOLES!!!! I contribute the maximum under the Law to help Elect Republicans…. I have as much USE for Democrats as I do for LAWYERS!!!! I believe that ALL Lawyers should be thrown into the bottom of the Ocean!!!!


  55. Zep Tepi Says:

    Dear Hector Garcia ,
    I strongly SUGGEST you take your own advice beacuse YOU BORE ME!!!!

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Sir, might a suggest drink to calm thy nerves and to cause you to think rational?


  56. rachel b Says:

    Sir Greg Nevins

    Selected capital letters and 7 exclamation points behind your selected words does not make them come true

    No matter how much you wish they did
    Prescott Bush traded with and funded the nazis until he was forced to stop in 1942 or 1943

    Donovan was the first leader of the OSS ( CIA ) in 1947
    Alan Dulles recruited MANY nazis into the CIA after the war
    Allen Dulles and Prescott Bush were best friends

    No doubt this is how George Bush senior got into the CIA in the early 1960s

    There exists a picture of GHWB standing in front of the TSBD immediately after John Kennedys asassination

    Yet he claims he was never in the CIA
    He claims he was not in Dallas that day
    He claims he doesnt know where he was when Kennedy was shot
    He has to be the ONLY person in the world who does not remember what they were doing on the day Kennedy was asassinated

    Yea I would go on blindly trusting this family too
    You are a prime candidate for being commited into a mental institution


  57. Uncle_Ho Says:

    shit-for-brains Greg Nevins; your quote of me is inaccurate(Sir Greg), I would NEVER call you sir, but you have no problem in giving yourself promotions. what are you going to call yourself next-, Admiral?


  58. Zep Tepi Says:

    I have as much USE for Democrats as I do for LAWYERS!!!!

    Might I remind you sir most politicians are lawyers.


  59. rocks911 Says:

    Sir Greg Nevins you’re kidding right?
    You still buy this fascist regimes B.S.?

    Wow, I guess it’s true what they say there’s one born every minute.

    And find some new rhetoric to throw at democrats, chirst the “run and hide” thing is getting a little old. What did the fascist that’s running our country now do during the Vietnam war, run and hide under daddy’s coattails.

    War profiteering chicken hawk fascists!

    Wake up!


  60. Zep Tepi Says:

    be thee bigger man sir


  61. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    “Sir” Greg — people like you who love Bush are the biggest disaster to ever happen to this country. America has a lot of house cleaning to do, starting with impeaching Bush, Cheney et al. Then we’re going silence the likes of you. This country has tolerated Bush and your ilk for entirely too long. The days of being nice to traitors like you are over. Get used to it. Your preciously little Georgie W. Bush is going to get spanked for the first time in his life. Bush is lucky it’s the United States that he’s screwing over. If he were anywhere else, he’d suffer the same fate as Saddam Hussein. And frankly, he deserves it more than Saddam Hussein did. Now, shut your pie hole. Your comments are neither needed nor desired.

    Dear Earthling — It’s the Left Wing Liberal Communists like YOU and ALL of your ilk that have TRIED to ruin this great Country but fortunately the Smart and Intelligent Religious Right OUT NUMBER YOU MORONS!!!!

    Republicans RULE this Country and the White House will be occupied by another Republican in Jan. 2009, because the American people DON”T TRUST A DO NOTHING PARTY WITH OUR LIVES!!!!! Democrats have NO IDEAS or SOLUTIONS to solve real problems… All you do is BLAME BUSH for everything and it is really getting TIRESOME!!!!!


  62. katy Says:

    congratulations, sir… you’ve got your own show…


  63. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    If Bush had served in Vietnam, he would spend 100% of his time smoking opium and shagging sheep.

    Guaranteed.

    You should know Hector Garcia — that is exactly what you did in Vietnam and the reason that your BRAIN DAMAGED!!!!!


  64. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    All men jerk their chicken Sir. Not 24 hours a day like you Left Wing Liberal JERK OFFS DO!!!!!!


  65. I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool Says:

    “because the American people DON”T TRUST A DO NOTHING PARTY WITH OUR LIVES!!!!! Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 8:10 pm”

    That’s why *we* lost the last election - my republican brethren. Didn’t you know the last congress was the most distrusted in history?

    You all know how much I hate the *commies*, but I don’t recall anyone advocating the abolition of private property. How again are there communists?

    I can tell you that my *angry-inch* gets engorged when I think happily on the fascist creation of the modern republican party. My uncle *adolph* would be happy to hear his little austrian niece is using her *angry-inch* to fight for the *right* to be a republican fascist! I’m glad you’ve joined me on the far right - it’s nice to know that we’re fighting together. And ignore these *libruls* that point out how hateful, stupid and ignorant we are. It’s our right to be fools - we’re all children of the *fatherland*! All but those *koranimals* that we want to round out into concentration camps!


  66. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    have as much USE for Democrats as I do for LAWYERS!!!!

    Might I remind you sir most politicians are lawyers.

    Only the GOOD FOR NOTHING LEFT WING COMMUNIST POLITICIANS!!!! The very reason that ALL the BLOOD SUCKIN LAWYERS contribute to Elect CROOKED Democratic POLITICIANS!!!!!


  67. Earthling Says:

    Dear Earthling — It’s the Left Wing Liberal Communists like YOU and ALL of your ilk that have TRIED to ruin this great Country but fortunately the Smart and Intelligent Religious Right OUT NUMBER YOU MORONS!!!!

    Okay, you’re just pathetic and stupid. Thanks for the clarification.


  68. dixie blood Says:

    Tony Snow!!

    You are useless! Go back to Fu*ks nOozze.

    STFU and DD!!!

    Comment by dixie blood — January 11, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

    The above post set off Sir(ly) Grog here tonight. Is Sir(ly) here to defend Tony Snow(job) or the sh!t heads in office?

    Just asking…


  69. Gregor Samsa Says:

    Adolph Hitler founded the Nazi party, whether you like it or not.
    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 7:52 pm

    Not true. Hitler joined the Nazi party on an invitation by the party founders (I don’t have the date in front of me, but I believe it was in 1920). They thought they could use his oratorial skills to recruit more members. Hitler, in turn, thought he could use them as a platform for his own views.

    If I recall correctly, his joining the party is described in Mein Kampf.


  70. Gregor Samsa Says:

    What does that have to do with Prescott Bush helping to fund the Nazi party through his Bank?
    Comment by Spudge_Boy — January 11, 2007 @ 8:07 pm

    I believe the troll thinks funded = founded.

    His vocabulary is rather limited, obviously.


  71. John Gilpins Says:

    Do we have a Constitution? Really! Really!

    If we do have one, this administration ignores it.

    Ben Franklin must be turning over in his grave. At least Ben and George have something in common: “They’ve both been higher than a kite.”

    John


  72. eternal springs Says:

    Tony Snow is such a ghoul. He’s got the head shape of Frankenstein, and the pallor of a corpse. I guess it’s an appropriate look for the mouthpiece of the Death Merchants…


  73. rachel b Says:

    GREG NEVINS

    Republicans RULE this Country … no they dictated it once but not anymore

    and the White House will be occupied by another Republican in Jan. 2009 … 12% will not defeat 88% now matter how good of a Diebold hacker is

    because the American people DON”T TRUST A DO NOTHING PARTY WITH OUR LIVES!!!!! … speak for yourself not me

    Democrats have NO IDEAS or SOLUTIONS to solve real problems …

    We have plenty of solutions to plenty of problems but the 109th congress saw to it that they were all stymied without so much as a floor debate

    We went through all this Greg Nevins on another thread last night from yesterdays threads

    You are like a talking parrot who only learned a few phrases and blurts them out at the most inoppurtune times

    Here is a refresher from yesterdays thread entitled BUSH WARNS IRAN that you refused to read

    What is the Democratic Plan to WIN the War in Iraq??????

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 4:06 am

    We have not bothered to come up with a plan since we found out your President cooked the intel books to give the go ahead and attack Iraq . Seems we have been too busy with his 109th congress charade .

    The plan to WIN in Iraq ? The prerequisite for victory in Iraq is to get Bush/Cheney impeached first and foremost .

    We would not NEED a plan to WIN if we had not gone on this little PNAC staged foray in the first place .

    Your asking .. What is the Democratic Plan to WIN the War in Iraq??????

    Is alot like asking a 5 year old to clean up a spilled gallon of paint .
    He was told to stay out of the paint or he might spill it .
    He doesnt listen and actually devises methods to not only reach the paint but manages to spill the entire gallon all over the floor .

    Now in a heated panic he looks around and has no idea how to fix the mess . Knowing all the way he was wrong but is trying to save face and pride with mom .

    The more he wipes and scrubs the worse it gets and spreads .

    Finally the parent catches him in his little foray and the child can think of nothing better to say than ..

    …WELL MOM ! What is YOUR plan to clean this up ?

    This is projection in the first degree .

    Greg Nevins you are a mirror image of your fearless leader .

    Comment by rachel b — January 11, 2007 @ 4:41 am

    URGENT MESSAGE

    202-456-1111

    White House Comment Line

    Call and say that you fully SUPPORT George Bush’s NEW PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF 20,000 MORE TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!!

    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 11, 2007 @ 4:21 am

    URGENT MESSAGE

    202-456-1111

    White House Comment Line

    Call and say that you fully SUPPORT George Bush’s NEW PLAN FOR THE DEPLOYMENT OF 20,000 MORE MALE TEEN STRIPPERS AND CALLBOYS IN WASHINGTON .

    TELL THEM SIR GREG NEVINS SENT YOU SO I CAN GET MY DISCOUNT WILL YOU ?

    Comment by rachel b — January 11, 2007 @ 4:45 am

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12099603/

    Sir Greg Nevins here is the plan

    What long-term plan in Iraq is necessary to ensure stability?

    Senator Joe Biden, of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, plays Hardball.


  74. Koalablue Says:

    The US stepped up pressure on Iran Thursday with the secretary of state warning that Washington will not stand “idly by” if Tehran disrupts a new strategy to stabilize Iraq hours after US troops raided an Iranian government office in Irbil.

    http://www.dailystar.com.lb/ article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=2&article_id=78490


  75. ForTruth Says:

    You trolls are really screwed. I mean you are normally screwed in here, but I just watched the regular “MSM” and it was nuthin but Chuck Hagel, pissed off people at the Local American Legions, Condi gettin’ yelled at, and Chimpy just being a chimp. The Librul Media has really turned on you now, Fox is all ya got. And their ratings have been declining consistently. Burp.


  76. ace Says:

    Chris:

    He never ANSWERED your question.

    Don’t let up - press harder!


  77. Uncle_Ho Says:

    Hector; Bush is still shagging sheep, it’s name is Laura.


  78. ace Says:

    [How an “incident” can be used as an excuse for military aggression-ed.]

    Dangerous Crossroads: Tonkin II?

    “An incident” in the Persian Gulf could be used by the US as a pretext for war against Iran.

    A war pretext incident, similar to “the Gulf of Tonkin Incident”, which triggered the Vietnam war, could be used by US forces, with a view to justifying retaliatory military action against Iran.

    In August 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson claimed that North Vietnamese forces had attacked US destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin. The Tonkin incident, which had been manipulated, contributed to unleashing a full-fledged war against Vietnam:

    “A phantom attack on two U.S. destroyers cruising the Gulf of Tonkin was staged by the Pentagon and the C.I.A. The bogus attack occurred early in August, 1964. That evening President Lyndon Johnson went on television giving the grim details of the non-attack. Later, however, it was revealed that navy commander James Stockdale flew cover over the Gulf of Tonkin that night. Stockdale disclosed that U.S. ships were firing at phantom targets–targets that didn’t exist. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident that drew the U.S. into the quagmire of Viet Nam simply didn’t happen. Johnson, as presidents so often do, lied to the American people. The result was the rapid passage of the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which was the sole legal basis for the Viet Nam War. As a result of Johnson’s lie, three million Vietnamese people and fifty eight thousand U.S. soldiers died.” (Charles Sullivan, Global Research, January 2006)

    –Michel Chossudovsky, “US naval war games off the Iranian coastline: A provocation which could lead to War?” (Oct. 24, 2006)

    http://globalresearch.ca/ index.php?context=viewArticle&code=2006102

    By: raise on November 20, 2006 at 05:54am


  79. Zoo Says:

    Special Comment on Keith Olbermann tonight — coming right up.


  80. Zoo Says:

    Hector; Bush is still shagging sheep, it’s name is Laura.
    Comment by Uncle_Ho

    Ouch.

    Funny, but ouch.


  81. AboveTheClouds Says:

    Matthews and Snow acted like two caged monkeys throwing shit at each other.


  82. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    Bush: “But victory in Iraq will bring something new in the Arab world — a functioning democracy that polices its territory, upholds the rule of law, respects fundamental human liberties, and answers to its people.”

    This is the greatest of ironies. Our kids are getting blown up and shot so that Iraq can uphold the rule of law, while America rejects the rule of law with the Military Commissions Act.

    More than 3000 female and male soldiers have died so that Iraq can respect fundamental liberties, while America locks up people indefinitely without a hearing.

    America has borrowed hundreds of billions of dollars so that the Iraq government will be one which listens to its people, while Bush ignores the American people.


  83. DoubtingThomas Says:

    C’mon, guys- Slur Nevins is cranking yer yanks. Noone could be that stupid: he must be a new incarnation of an “anti-troll”- just here to get everyone riled and rallied on the correct (read ‘not right’) side of the truth. Either that or he is truly is a never-laid psycho Bircher on steroids. Go figure.


  84. Hector Garcia Says:

    When snow says “Well, you have been watching too many old movies” he’s partly right, the administration he lies for has sold the american public a lot of movie scripts which cost billions of dollars (911, WMD, Alqaeda link, Hurricane Katrina…)

    It seems to be a joke or some funny remark, but it ain’t.With the gentle colaboration of Condolence’s Rice Foxy news, massive deceit has never been so easy…

    Peg Nevins, get a job.


  85. ForTruth Says:

    In all reality, Snow was extremely smooth, and handled it very well. Better than Scotty. It just makes me wonder how he can live with himself.


  86. Zoo Says:

    America has borrowed hundreds of billions of dollars so that the Iraq government will be one which listens to its people, while Bush ignores the American people.
    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    They just make up shit as they go along. They have no idea what the real truth is anymore. And they don’t care. They never cared. All this death and destruction — for the King.


  87. ForTruth Says:

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    I think you invented a new type of irony, meloncholic irony.


  88. Marie Says:

    It’s not too often that I agree with Tweety but in this case, he is obviously concerned and worried about the possibility of the US provoking Iran into something that will result in a war, or even deliberately setting certain events in order to incite war.
    Bush believes he doesn’t need Congressional support.
    Recall that in recent weeks, Bejamin Netanyahu said Israel was pressing Bush about taking out Iran’s nuclear facilities, and told an Israeli newspaper that it was all but a done deal.
    Whether the US does it or Israel does it themselves, the risk of a new and expanded war in the middle East would be the result.
    As for Snowjob - who believes what he says anyway?


  89. Uncle_Ho Says:

    Hiya Zoo(ey) :D


  90. ForTruth Says:

    Whoever Peg Nevins is, she just got roasted.


  91. Zoo Says:

    Hiya Zoo(ey) :D
    Comment by Uncle_Ho

    Hi, Uncle Ho. :)


  92. Uncle_Ho Says:

    OK guys, I’m out of here for the nighty nighty night. If that dipshit Nevins comes back on, GIVE HIM HELL. I can’t believe someone is really THAT stupid.

    Good luck and good night.


  93. dixie blood Says:

    #46-Sir(ly),

    Read about the biggest account the the Union Bank of NY ever had:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Thyssen

    THE NAZI BANKER!

    Prescott Botch was an officer and part owner of the Union Bank of NY.


  94. katy Says:

    i can’t believe he got most of 100 posts…


  95. bs Says:

    u.s soldiers battle rammed the iranian consulate in iraq. i mean, what more do you want to antagonize the iranians. we are in the process of provoking a war, plain and simple.


  96. chimpeach Says:

    Phony never did answer the question. In other words, Bush will try to start something with Iran and he figures that by the time Congress finds out it’ll be too late to stop it. He’s going to kick another hornets nest, and after he does, his 25 percenters will say that it’s too late to argue over after it’s already been done. Just like Iraq. This needs to be prevented.


  97. Zoo Says:

    i can’t believe he got most of 100 posts…
    Comment by katy

    Seems to have been the goal, from the looks of it.


  98. Carole Says:

    Tony Snow looks like Mr. Munster.


  99. katy Says:

    keith’s special comment tonight is scathing…

    there must be something can be done to cut off this mad man…

    maybe just knowing the gig is up will be enough…
    cause, the gig is most definetely up… even the wingers know it…

    well, except for buchanan… bigot…


  100. katy Says:

    HIS goal… but why oblige it? …


  101. Marie Says:

    Keith Olbermann was on fire again tonight.


  102. Kat Says:

    I wish Matthews had pushed more, although I am shocked he even did what he did… strange days lately.

    Could we not use the same rationale for “going after” Iran and Syria as a basis to indicate that Saudi Arabia should also be on that helping/funding terrorism list?


  103. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    The Iranian public, most which of is young, is very pro-American. We got a lot of people —

    Er, Chris and Tony Snow - thanks for playing….

    Asked which of six foreign governments they admired the least, the U.S. was the most cited – by one in four of all respondents, and almost one in three of those aged 18 to 29.

    Oops, you’ve lost the next generation already. http://antiwar.com/lobe/?articleid=9303


  104. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    bs - everyone should makes themselves aware of the Gleiwitz Incident. There’s been a lot of talk about Gulf of Tonkin, but Gleiwitz is closer to what will happen, IMHO.



  105. Zoo Says:

    well, except for buchanan… bigot…
    Comment by katy

    I just heard Buchanan’s nasty voice on Scarborough (forgot to turn off the tv), and I keep wondering why anyone talks to that old racist.

    HIS goal… but why oblige it? …
    Comment by katy

    Yep.

    Although I am guilty of troll-baiting. I think I need to resolve to ignore them — again. :)


  106. Zoo Says:

    Keith Olbermann was on fire again tonight.
    Comment by Marie

    (and katy)

    He was. I liked how he listed all the bouncing back and forth this admin has done, almost running out of breath.


  107. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Kat - bingo! By every rule you have (except the red herring WMDs), Saudi Arabia is the place. Let’s recap:

    1. Osama is a Saudi
    2. So were 15 9-11 hijackers
    3. The money to fund Al Qaeda mostly comes from Saudi notables paying the local Saudi wackjobs to do their murderous crap anywhere but Saudi
    4. Saudi Arabia is not a Jeffersonian democratic utopia
    5. Saudi Arabia is the origin of the xenophobic Wahabbi doctrine of Islam

    Caption Contest:
    Chris: Dude in the light of what I have just read on TP by one ‘TerrytheTurtle’ - did we invade the wrong country?

    Snowcone: You can judge your source’s validity by the fact that even as you speak he is on his way to free Cuban holiday in an orange jumpsuit. Repeat after me, Chris - “you are with us or against us….”


  108. chimpeach Says:

    #46 Lady Greg Nevins

    Dumb a$$, post proof that Prescott Bush helped fund the Nazi party or STFU. You probably two busy choking your chicken — a common problem among Left Wing Liberal JERKS!!!!!!

    You didn’t know about that? That’s pretty widely known. The Bush family had their Union Banking Company seized by the federal government during World War II under the “Trading with the Enemy Act”. Guess which enemy. They helped fund Hitler’s war machine, while we were fighting Hitler. The Bush family wealth came out of that. The Union Banking Company was also inolved with I.G. Farben, the company that made the Zyklon-B cyanide tablets used in the gas chambers.

    Gee, you’d think that awful liberal media that hates Bush so much would have reported on this stuff.


  109. katy Says:

    ok… if i sound bitter and pissed, cause i am… nothing personal…
    but, after keith brought me to tears, again, and come back to see the troll trash still piling up and to no real resolution… it just gets me…
    i can understand a statement to refute and call it out, but the constant na na na boo boo is unnerving…

    this lisa myers/miers (?) is a great investigative journalist…

    good to know there are still some left…


  110. John Mruzik Says:

    Sir Greg Nevins =paid troll


  111. Kat Says:

    I thought I had read that when Dead-Eye Dick went to Saudi Arabia recently, he was involved in a discussion in which the Saudis got a l’il pissy and were saying we need to be killing the Shites, as the Sunni Muslims in Saudi were not too pleased with the killling of Sunni’s at all. Is this correct?


  112. Marie Says:

    #112 TtT
    I looked it up and you may be right. The Tonkin is used as example probably because of the involvement of a ship; the comparisons between Viet Nam and Iraq, and that the Gulf of Tonkin event occurred in more recent history, but taking the Gliewitz incident as that example is probably more likely.
    In any case, I will never take anything said or claimed by Bush&Co at face value. Never. They cannot tell the truth.
    I firmly believe that we have no solution to the problem now except that Bush must leave office, resign or be fired, he cannot remain.
    Just before his speech last night he told some high ranking reporters; “if you knew what we knew”… Just as he did in 2002 when he was fabricating “evidence” to warrant invading Iraq.
    He is not contrite, he has not learned anything, he ignores voters and allies.
    He challenged those who oppose him to come up with a plan that he would review (yeah, right). But when the war is lost, as it already is, what possible plan can there be for victory. Victory is not possible in a failed war. What remains only is how to get everyone out safely.


  113. chimpeach Says:

    #118 katy

    this lisa myers/miers (?) is a great investigative journalist…

    She did a great story a couple years ago about the Army spying on a group of Quakers in Florida (they were advocating…gasp… peace).


  114. Lora Says:

    I believe that ALL Lawyers should be thrown into the bottom of the Ocean!!!!
    Comment by Sir Greg Nevins

    Please start with your neo-con comrade Mighty Aphrodite–except that he/she is probably not really a lawyer.


  115. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    War profiteering chicken hawk fascists!

    Wake up!

    Dear rocks911 — It is appareant that your head is filled with ROCKS!!!! You are as DUMB as a ROCK….. I don’t give a flyin F**k if your tired of the truth about your Left Wing Liberal ASS HOLES!!!!!


  116. JTitor Says:

    Any Comment by Sir Greg Nevins - It’s a waste of time talking to the 3 or 4 that bounce in and out of here and try to take the goup off topic, These people are paid go into high profile groups and do their job. They have a bloging points that they follow, and most don’t have any political afiliation. Also you argue with them? Why? What they are trying to do is get some of you so pissed as to make comments that can be pursued to a political and sometimes legal end. They would like nothing more then to shut TP down.

    Something to think about.


  117. ItsJustKarma Says:

    SNOW: Ok, but, let me just do a couple of things here. I think you understand and most Americans understand Iran is the foremost financier of global terror. It’s a problem. But you don’t deal with everything militarily, as you know. The United States exhausted all diplomatic options before going into Iraq, and I think what you’re doing if you’re trying to go down the road of speculation that is just way ahead of events. Right now, we’re working on making Iraq a success.

    Phucking Snow. The biggest financier of global terror is the US. “You don’t, but we deal with everything militarily.”
    Exhausted all diplomatic options before going into Iraq? Phuck that stinking liar. Powell went to the UN and lied to the world without shame.
    Making Iraq a success can only mean the death penalty for the whole administration including Phucky Snow and everybody at AEI and PNAC.


  118. Another Day in the Empire Says:

    […] However, at least a few corporate media shills are waking up to the inevitability of an Iran attack. For instance, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, who “aggressively questioned [at least for a moment] White House Press Secretary Tony Snow about whether President Bush’s rhetoric last night was a ‘precursor for a rationale for an attack’ on Iran.” […]


  119. ItsJustKarma Says:

    #106

    Hey! That’s not nice! I love Herman Munster and it is an insult to Herman to compare him with Phony Snow!


  120. dixie blood Says:

    Dear Sir(ly) Gack Nubins!!

    1) TAKE YOUR MEDS

    2) STFU!

    3) DD


  121. rachel b Says:

    John Titor - Time Traveler

    http://www.johntitor.com/

    The Time Travel Tale of John Titor. … When John Titor, the supposed time traveler from 2036 posted online, he said the United States would enter into a …

    JTitor

    Is this who you are emulating or are you the real * supposed time traveler * John Titor ?

    All of your posts for the past 5-6 months seem to come from message board dialogue of one John Titor the supposed time traveler

    Personally I do not buy into any of it about this John Titor * The Time Traveler *

    The Story of John Titor

    http://johntitor.strategicbrains.com/

    http://community.livejournal.com/hoaxes/90359.html

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/ pages/ the_john_titor_project.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor


  122. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    u.s soldiers battle rammed the iranian consulate in iraq. i mean, what more do you want to antagonize the iranians. we are in the process of provoking a war, plain and simple.

    I say that the U. S. drop a couple of nuclear bombs on Iran. Then we won’t have to worry about them getting nuclear bombs in their hands like Slick Willy let the North Koreans do while he was getting BJ’s from an Intern in the Oval Office…. YOU LEFT WING LIBRu.s soldiers battle rammed the iranian consulate in iraq. i mean, what more do you want to antagonize the iranians. we are in the process of provoking a war, plain and simple.

    You LEFT WING LIBERAL NUMB NUTS ARE TOTALLY DISGUSTING!!!!


  123. Zoo Says:

    I don’t think the Nevins troll deserves anymore of this thread.
    Let him talk to himself.


  124. rachel b Says:

    Bye Greg Nevins

    You are boring as hell and this is my last post to you

    ever


  125. rocks911 Says:

    Who calls themselves Sir, I mean other than an arrogant putz.


  126. Jeanne Says:

    1. He has no support. 60% are against the surge, probably 100% are against a war in Iraq.

    2. They keep talking about Iran being the fiancer of terrorism. I have a message for Tony Snow. Halliburton has made lots and lots of money in Iran and Iraq despite embargos.

    Here’s an article from March 7, 2005

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7119752/

    Halliburton operates in Iran despite sanctions
    How do U.S. contractors legally do business there?

    Why should Americans even care if U.S. companies circumvent the sanctions?

    “The purpose of these sanctions is to dissuade Iran from supporting terrorism and from seeking to acquire weapons of mass destruction,” says Comras.

    There’s a move in Congress to close the loophole.

    “We don’t want American companies propping up a government that’s dedicated to our destruction,” says Sen. Collins.

    Halliburton says it is unfairly targeted because of politics, but recently announced it is pulling out of Iran because the business environment “is not conducive to our overall strategies and objectives.”

    However, that exit will be slow. Halliburton announced it was leaving Iran only three weeks after Iran announced the lucrative new gas deal, which industry sources say will take three years to complete.


  127. rocks911 Says:

    “I don’t give a flyin F**k if your tired of the truth”

    Hey dumbass, the word you are looking for is “you’re” not “your”. The word “you’re” is called a compound word, as in a combination of two words. Now quit screwing your sister and get you some schooling boy!


  128. katy Says:

    Tony Snow looks like Mr. Munster.
    Comment by Carole — January 11, 2007 @ 9:12 pm

    well, that’s a new one… maybe you’re not familiar with this guy:
    MAX HEADROOM … http://www.public.iastate.edu/~spires/max.html
    or google it… here’s a cool you tube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF1q7WXJb_0

    max is much more likeable to be sure…
    hat tip to the zookeeper for this memory…


  129. Mnobles Says:

    To Dixie blood your senseless use of filth and your lack of correct grammar shows one thing you are an uneducated product of the left wing public education system. It is apparent thay you have been dumbed down to dirt. I can’t wait for you unintelligent response. Liberalism is the Logic’s retarded cousin.


  130. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    Can anyone say “strawman”?


  131. TerrytheTurtle Says:

    the Logic’s

    Is that like “the Google” or “the internets”?


  132. Zoo Says:

    Is that like “the Google” or “the internets”?
    Comment by TerrytheTurtle

    *snort*


  133. Zoo Says:

    max is much more likeable to be sure…
    hat tip to the zookeeper for this memory…
    Comment by katy

    :-)


  134. rocks911 Says:

    Wow, “I can’t wait for you unintelligent response. Liberalism is the Logic’s retarded cousin.” that’s some great english usage you’ve got going there as well. Hyuuk!


  135. rocks911 Says:

    Kat,

    You asked:
    “I thought I had read that when Dead-Eye Dick went to Saudi Arabia recently, he was involved in a discussion in which the Saudis got a l’il pissy and were saying we need to be killing the Shites, as the Sunni Muslims in Saudi were not too pleased with the killling of Sunni’s at all. Is this correct?”

    And the answer is that is correct. The heart attck machine and his ilk are beholden to the Saudis which are Sunnis


  136. JTitor Says:

    Hey Rachel B is this you?

    Rachel B. Tiven is the executive director of Immigration Equality based in New York City. Immigration Equality is a national organization that fights for the U.S. immigration rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and HIV-positive individuals.

    http://feministing.com/archives/006245.html

    Pretty easy to google something… My question to you is why do you give a shit?


  137. big papa Says:

    Off topic but REALLY important. Anderson Cooper had a great report about a Senate bill to stop the payment of pensions to public officials convicted of felonies (like bribery and theft) while in office that was allowed to die in committee…

    …some of the Senators on that subcommittee were: Senator John Warner of Virginia, Michigan Senator Carl Levin, Hawaii’s Daniel Akaka, and (the KING of hypocrites), Tom Coburn from Oklahoma (I believe)…

    Google tis Bill and find out some of the others…

    …I emailed THOSE Senators, you should too (if you pay taxes)…

    …here’s the letter I emailed:

    Dear Senator ____,
    I am emailing about a report I saw concerning Senate Bill 2268 (I believe that is the number), the bill regarding stopping pension payments to Senators (and I assume allother public figures) who are convicted of felonies while serving in public office. I was quite shocked and dismayed to learn that YOU sir are a member of the subcommittee that let this legislation die in committee. How is it conscienable to you (and ANY member of Congress) that during these “austere” times when YOU especially have actively lobbied to have poor single mothers and their children cut from welfare rolls that you can countenance Dan Rostenkowski’s receiving over $126,000 per year in pension after being convicted of stealing public funds? How is it that Dan Cunningham will STILL draw a $64,000 per yr pension after being convicted of accepting millions in bribes? Sir I am outraged at you and your colleagues’ hypocrisy in continuing to kick this disgraceful can down the proverbial road! I will watch with great interest (and make sure that I alert every citizen within my circle of online bloggers to do likewise) to see what happens with this very important (and timely) issue. I am convinced that under the proper scrutiny more rational heads will prevail, and that the proper action will be taken to pass this sensible bill…VERY soon.


  138. WC Says:

    SNOW: Let me put it this way. The president understands you got to have public support for whatever you do.

    Bullsh*t. He started the buildup before he even gave his speech announcing the escalation. Bush doesn’t give a fu*k about public support. The public does not support him on this but yet he goes full steam ahead. Damn.


  139. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Any Comment by Sir Greg Nevins - It’s a waste of time talking to the 3 or 4 that bounce in and out of here and try to take the goup off topic, These people are paid go into high profile groups and do their job. They have a bloging points that they follow, and most don’t have any political afiliation.

    Dear John Titor, To set the record straight…. First of all, NO ONE PAYS ME TO EXERCISE MY FREE SPEECH RIGHTS UNDER THE CONSTITUTION. Second of all, THIS IS NOY MY JOB… I DON’T HAVE TO WORK. Third, I DON’T have any Blogging Points that I NEED to follow… I give YOU the FACTS as they are — just because YOU CAN’T STAND TO HEAR THE TRUTH IS NOT MY PROBLEM. Last, but not least… Everyone that reads my postings knows that I am a Registered Republican, I VOTE in every Election and I VOTE for every Republican on the Ballot. I am a Distinguished Member of the Republican Presidential Task Force that was formed by the Great President of the 20th Century — RONALD W. REAGAN!!!!!

    NOW STOP SPREADING YOUR LEFT EING LIES AND BULLSHIT PROPOGANDA!!
    There is NOT ENOUGH MONEY ON THIS EARTH TO EVER GET ME TO VOTE FOR A LEFT WING NARROW MINDED DEMOCRAT……


  140. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Bye rachel b

    You are boring as hell and quite frankly I am extrememly BORED at all the NONSENSE that you post here on this BLOG…… I have lots of pity for Mentally Challenged Left Wing Idiots such as yourself!!!!!


  141. Bluestocking Says:

    SNOW: Well, you have been watching too many old movies —

    MATTHEWS: No, I’ve been watching the war in Iraq, is what I’ve been watching.

    *******************************

    OUCH!! Matthews really took a bite out of Squealer!


  142. SKdeA Says:

    So, it looks as though the really annoying trolls are paid to put 100 posts. I suggest we have a stock answer! “You’re a troll, please post again so we can be done with you” or something like that, and we play cut and paste until they make their quota, get their check from KKKarl, and leave, THEN we can have our discussion!
    Waste the Republican’s money…


  143. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Bullsh*t. He started the buildup before he even gave his speech announcing the escalation. Bush doesn’t give a fu*k about public support. The public does not support him on this but yet he goes full steam ahead.

    I fully SUPPORT Our Commander-in-Chief in sending 20,000 more troops to fight in Iraq. If I were the Commander-in-Chief, I would immediately send 50,000 troops to fight the Insurgents and Squash them like Little Bugs….

    President Bush already has the Authority to send as many troops as he wants to Iraq — so go whine about something else… ALL YOU LEFT WING DEMOCRATS WANT TO HEAR IS SURRENDER & WITHDRAWAL IN IRAQ…. This is the Policy of the COWARDS and LEFT WING IDIOTS!!!!!


  144. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    So, it looks as though the really annoying trolls are paid to put 100 posts. I suggest we have a stock answer! “You’re a troll, please post again so we can be done with you” or something like that, and we play cut and paste until they make their quota, get their check from KKKarl, and leave, THEN we can have our discussion!

    I AM NOT LEAVING THIS BLOG AND I WILL CONTINUE TO SHOW JUST HOW SICK YOUR MORONIC LEFT WING LIBERAL ASS HOLES ARE…. I WILL EXPOSE YOU FOR THE COWARDS AND FAKES THAT YOU ALL ARE…. NO ONE PAYS ME TO EXERCISE MY FREE SPEECH RIGHTS — I DON’T NEED TO WORK…. GOT IT BITCH!!!!!


  145. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    They just make up shit as they go along. They have no idea what the real truth is anymore. And they don’t care. They never cared. All this death and destruction — for the King.

    DEAR Zoo, Someone needs to Bitch Slap some sence into your Mentally Challenged BRAIN!!!! You are evidently completely Brain Washed to PARROT the Left Wing Liberal COMMUNIST AGENDA!!!!!

    DEMOCRATS ARE WORTHLESS PIGS!!!!!


  146. JTitor Says:

    GREG STOP YELLING! First off Ronald Reagan was a paleo-conservative, and “sir” if you were part of the Reagan administration then you are paleo, but your not conservative! You try and act like a conservative by ranting liberal this and liberal that….you support the Straussian approach to government just like the Bush’s, and you stand back and let PedoCons take the Constitution and use it as their personel toilet paper. Reagan didn’t trust Bush Sr, and for good reasons.

    At least these Liberals stand up for the bill of rights and the constitution. How can you stand back and allow Executive orders as such to pass. Either your part of the problem or your part of the solution. Also don’t sit there and disgrace Ronald Reagan’s name by associating your with him.

    Executive Order Numbers and Meaning:

    10900 - Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.
    10995 - Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
    10997 - Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
    10998 - Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
    11000 - Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
    11001 - Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.
    11002 - Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.
    11003 - Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
    11004 - Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, and designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
    11005 - Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
    11051 - Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
    11310 - Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
    11049 - Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen-year period.
    11921 - Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the President declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.


  147. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Hey rocks911. I know you’re a dumbass and you can’t quit screwing your sister. I knew you were a redneck because all you rednecks engage in INCEST!!!!! That may explain WHY Left Wing Liberal Communists are SO STUPID and contiue to post LIES & BULLSHIT on this Blog…

    Instead of BLAMING BUSH for ALL of your Faults and F**K UPS, why don’t you take a good look in the Mirror sometime — Yea, I bet it’s SCARY & FRIGHTENING!!!!! DRINK SOME MORE KOOL AID….


  148. Zoo Says:

    Sir Greg Nevins,

    **yawn**

    Yeah…


  149. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    First off Ronald Reagan was a paleo-conservative, and “sir” if you were part of the Reagan administration then you are paleo, but your not conservative!

    Listen BITCH, I told you that I am a Compassionate Conservative and I was never part of the Reagan Administration. President Reagan was the Greatest President of the 20th Century —- BAR NONE!!!

    Why don’t you tell us how great your IDOL, Jimmy Carter was when he drove this Country into the Ground!!!! Go back and read your History!!!


  150. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    At least these Liberals stand up for the bill of rights and the constitution. How can you stand back and allow Executive orders as such to pass. Either your part of the problem or your part of the solution. Also don’t sit there and disgrace Ronald Reagan’s name by associating your with him.

    The Liberals ONLY STAND FOR TAXING THE RICH IN THIS COUNTRY SO THEY CAN RE-DISTRIBUTE IT TO THE LAZY ASSES THAT REFUSE TO WORK!!!! YOU CONSTANTLY PLAY THE CLASS WARFARE GAME AND SIT AROUND ON YOUR FAT ASSES AND CRITISIZE PRESIDENT BUSH…. YOU USE THE CONSTITUTION TO BACK UP ALL OF YOUR BULLSHIT AND RHETORIC!!!!

    I Fully Support our Duly Elected President and he has the RIGHT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION — THAT YOU WANT TO DEFEND TO PASS EXECUTIVE ORDERS!!!!! YOU GO BUSH — THE GREATEST PRESIDENT OF THE 21ST CENTURY……


  151. Sir Greg Nevins Says:

    Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, said: “In choosing to es