House passes prescription drug reform.
By on Jan 12th, 2007 at 4:11 pm
House passes prescription drug reform.
The House this afternoon passed legislation to repeal the Bush administration-backed provision of the 2003 Medicare prescription drug law that forbids Medicare from negotiating lower prices for seniors. “The 255 to 170 vote wasn’t enough to override a threatened veto from President Bush, who said he won’t accept the measure in its current form. Supporters said the government could save $96 billion over 10 years by negotiating for drugs bought in bulk.”
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Looks like the new congress has done more in a few days then all of last year, I hope bush has his veto pen ready, we need a few more nails in the repulican coffin to call them good and dead.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWell said, Krazny.
The new majority has done more in 4 days than Hasturd did in 4 years.
Did anyone see him trying to clap during Pelosi’s swearing in? Pathetic.
Bush will have to sharpen his veto pen. The nice part about that pen is that it will only be a ‘period’ in history. Period. He will be on record as opposing logical, citizen driven legislation. That will be his record.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:25 pm780 signing statements & one veto to date. Does anyone else find that scary as Hell? He’s trying to revise history in front of our eyes.
Condi, go augment your breasts.
Rush, go surge your sick dick.
Bush, put the pen down and face the wall. Hands behind your back…
Krazny – Yup. just bring out that old veto pen and let the ink flow.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:28 pmThe Republicans think 06 stung, wait till the voters see the true Republican colors fly for two years of vetoing measures that would have improved the lives of average Americans.
Oh, yeah, and you bet ther’ll be override votes that Republicans will have to stand up and be counted on.
Yeah.
But when are they going to have debates on brain dead people and renaming cafeteria food? Ah, the good ole’ days.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:28 pmFiscal responsibility to the stock market…
January 12th, 2007 at 4:28 pmNext, the House needs to repeal the “Authorization for use of Military Force”.
Think about it.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:32 pmSorry Tuber, next the house needs to start on the articles of impeachment.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pmWay to go Dems! Now maybe the country will see Bush for what he is, a roadblock to anything that will benefit the American people.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pm#6
Are you talking about that abomination called the “Warner Act”?
That not only should be repealed, it must be shredded into conffeti and scattered to the four winds along with that little ditty the Shrub signed that removed the US from the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Courts to make sure that he, Dick and Rummy will not be tried as war criminals
January 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pmI’m not sure about this one, the VA does negotiate prices….BUT they also limit what you get. Using them as a blanket presciption drug model might not work.
but if they can lower costs, then I’m all for the change.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWhhy would Bush veto anything? I thought hhe used his signing statements to exercise his veto power.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:43 pmHmmm… let’s see. Protect giant drug corporations profits over the health needs of our elderly. Just one example of a fascist dictator wannabe.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:45 pmYou know, for people with no plans, the democrats sure are doing quite abit this week.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:45 pmbush is bitch
January 12th, 2007 at 4:46 pm#9-Rebel,
No, I’m talking about this:
Such a move would effectively end the Iraq atrocity immediately and pull from Georgie’s hands the carte blanche that the knuckle-heads of the 107th congress gave to him.
It is the most sane and reasonable thing that we can do. Why it is never even discussed is telling in and of itself.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:50 pmOops, let’s see if I can post than link again.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:52 pmGo HERE (Findlaw.com)
The Dems are making accomplishments this week – more than in the past 6 years. Bush will probably veto the Rx bill if it makes it to his desk and indeed, that will be a sorry state of affairs, but it will show everyone that the two vetoes of George Bush are: to restrict science from researching help for those with serious afflictions; and to ensure that eldlerly and disabled pay the highest prices for their prescriptions. Nice. Mr. Compassion.
January 12th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThis is awesome – they just keep passing stuff that makes EVERYONE who opposes it look very, very bad……I keep hoping the Dubbie and the GOP’ers will actually stand their ground and oppose it all, thus showing them to be the craven enemies of equity and freedom they really are. Every veto Dubbie dares exercise, he’ll be one step closer to Impeachment, so keep those populist-agenda bills rollin’ through!!!!!
January 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmThis is the sort of stuff that paves the road to impeachment. Vetoing a bill is the presidents right, however when it goes against the popular will of the people they become less supportive. When they become less supportive the investigations sure to come will be supported by the public more enthusiastically. The more Bush goes against “We the people” the more he digs his own grave.
Also I am begining to think that the Ford pardon was a bad thing. It was supposed to heal the nation, however Nixon was never fully called on the carpet and as a result we have an even more imperial presidency. Should Bush be impeached or criminal charges be brought against him I think it will be the duty of whomever is preisdent next to let him go through the whole process and possibly go to prisonas a result. I think it will set a precedent for the future and send message to the world that we do believe in ourselves again.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:11 pmWhy would Republicans want the government to save $19 billion over ten years when they want to bankrupt it?
January 12th, 2007 at 5:15 pmBush vetos? Bring’em on!
More rope to hang the Republicans with in 2008.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThe new congress has accomplished more in a week than Bush’s Rethugs did in 6 years! What does it say that a Preznut plans to veto something which will benefit the people and not allow his Big Pharma buddies to further line their coffers? It spells – graft & corruption to me. Down with Big Pharma, Big Oil, Big Insurance! IMPEACH BUSH NOW.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:28 pmBush’s overtly reprehensible actions AGAINST the people of this country will result in the total destruction of the Republican Party by ‘08! Let the good times roll! Let the charlatans and criminals heads roll, too!
Any Republican considering running for any office in 08 had better think twice….when Bush gets down with showing his ugly arss to everyone in fighting those who are trying to clip his wings for his criminal activities against the people, no one will be proud to call themselves a Republican.
He’s doing to the Republican party what he did to every business he ever had his hands on – he’s running it into the ground! Good! Less creeps on the radar to try to wrangle control of this government back into the hands of criminals in 08.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:30 pm#20 Reality Check
The why is 25 to 50%. Half of $19 billion is one hell of a lot of kick-backs, graft, bribes, and salaries after the Senate or House. We just had one example today of the bushco revolving door. The drug companies profit is only a small part of the WD-40 the Repugs spray on the hinges. If you want another reality check just wait until next week when the House starts squeezing the big oil companies.
The only problem I have with this is the waste of time. All of DUHbya’s vetoes will be overridden or reintroduced after the impeachment brought on by those vetoes. Why not just impeach bushco now and let them read about the legislation in the Leavenworth Weekly? Then the legislation can become law without the bushco BS.
As with most dumb animals the best way to get their attention is a 2X4 applied briskly about the head and shoulders. Unfortunately, DUHbya is the dumbest follow-up of dumb and dumber. It may take 101 hours too get his attention. Do you suppose the Bill of Impeachment could be numbered 2X4?
January 12th, 2007 at 5:37 pmThis was good legislation that Bush should sign. you see, some things I even agree on with the Dems.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:38 pm#25 R_R
You just proved the point made by veritasin #23.
Now run home and tell your Mom and Them and get them all on the wagon.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:42 pm#26 You are right on this one. Bush is no looking out for the folks and it is sad. It is just like Pelosi not allowing American Somoa to get a decent livable minimum wage like the rest of us simply to give a handout to a huge corporate buddy. It is sad that Bush and Pelois are so corrupt. It is obvious neither thought of the people when it came to these issues. Just sad.
January 12th, 2007 at 5:56 pmBush is a brat. If he doesn’t get his way, he pitches a temper tantrum and doesn’t give a damn about who he hurts in the process.
Someone should spank him. In public.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:00 pm“George W. Bush: A Symptom of Disease” written by Charles Sullivan and published today on http://www.smirkingchimp.com sums it quite succinctly and accuratel in every respect. It’s a powerful, poignant and relevant “must read”…check it out….
January 12th, 2007 at 6:01 pmun – I’m just a waitin for the day when he makes one of his dumbass remarks to the wrong Senator/Congressman/Governor/Veteran
January 12th, 2007 at 6:04 pmAnd get his ass handed to him with a single right/left cross to the chin/ or knee to the crotch.
Yeah, the perp will go to jail, or be shot by the SS, but it might still be worth it.
Y’know, takin one for the country.
The 110th Congress has clearly done more in their first week than the 109th did all last year…
Comment by unbelievable
“House Democrats cancel opening session so that members can attend the Ohio State-Florida State football game. Iraqi war to be continued…â€
January 12th, 2007 at 6:07 pmHeh right
Yep them Dems got their priorities right.
Flaco, have you been asleep all week, or are you just stupid? Because, this week alone, Dems have passed more meaningful legislation than Repubs have in the last 5 years.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:16 pmY’know, takin one for the country.
Comment by RUCerious — January 12, 2007 @ 6:04 pm
Maybe the next time he gropes Angela Merkel, she’ll lay himout so we don’t have to sacrifice any of our own? :)
January 12th, 2007 at 6:19 pmFlaco has definately been asleep, Bluedog49, because it was the “Boner” (OK… Boehner…)
January 12th, 2007 at 6:20 pmwho ASKED Pelosi for the day off.
The Repub’s couldn’t have a full first week.
Guess they had to ease in to it…
Yep them Dems got their priorities right.
Comment by Flaco — January 12, 2007 @ 6:07 pm
They’ve still done more for the American people in a single week than the Repugs did all last year. Regardless of when they started. And they actually worked a full week…
But I didn’t say that in this thread. You’ve been dying to find me in another thread so you could cut and paste that along with your cut and pasted answer. Desperation is really pathetic Flaco- even from you…
January 12th, 2007 at 6:26 pm#32 RU
I would volunteer for the job but I can’t even stand to watch him on TV. If I got close enough to kick him in person I would probably slip up in my own throw up. Of course you are assuming I would have a target–I haven’t seen him do anything that would evidence a pair.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhat about healthcare for all children, and other important issues of concern? Won’t this limit the number of drugs that the govt. can approve? I’m not sure that the savings from this deal will really make up for the bigger holes that need to be filled like just plain coverage. What if the government’s list doesn’t include a drug you need? Where is the Government’s incentive , arm twisting, on the big Pharma companies to approve their drugs only if they lower their prices? We’ll see, but at least it’s a start.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:30 pmTrue Blue and Unbelievable
Shame on you two! You didn’t leave enough of Flake-O for Zoo even to have a sniff.
Soon the trolls will learn not to mess with the Thinking Ladies.
Well done!
January 12th, 2007 at 6:32 pmForgive me, Clyde.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:44 pmI forgot myself.
;)
#39 fly-man
I will give you a real time example that will show that Medicare negotiating with the drug companies can have no DIRECT effect on drug prices for children.
I have been diagnosed with a condition that is less than desired. I have been taking a drug ($3 per pill) for the last eight weeks, the recommended length of use. The drug company offered a $30 rebate if I would continue another month. That tells me one thing only: the effers beat me out of at least $30 per month for two months. I’ll give you ten time my usual odds ($20 to a glass of warm pee) that Wyeth didn’t donate that $60 to some needy American kid.
The Government doesn’t need an incentive or arm twisting. The Government passes laws. If the Government is not corrupt, as has been for the last six years, it passes laws to protect those being governed. Then there is no need to worry about drug companies, oil companies, insurance companies, et al committing the criminal acts evidenced under bushco because the CEO’s and bushco will be sharing a cell together. The kids can have their pills, I can have my pills, the kids can watch TV, and I can even afford to take Granny out to dinner.
January 12th, 2007 at 6:52 pmGW Botch will veto this.
He needs to be IMPEACHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GW Botch is the worst human being in America!! Forget about worst president…he’s the worst human being living in the entire country!!!!
January 12th, 2007 at 7:09 pm“House Democrats cancel opening session so that members can attend the Ohio State-Florida State football game. Iraqi war to be continued…â€
Heh right
Yep them Dems got their priorities right.
Comment by Flaco
Huh. I thought I smelled something old and debunked.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:16 pmThe interesting thing will be to hear the tortured logic he uses when he explains why he has vetoed this legislation. How about this: “we want to let the free market decide prices, except unlike the free market, we’re not going to allow volume discounts.”
Or, how about this: “We think drug prices are already reasonable enough.”
That should go over real well. His approval rating could go into the teens on that one.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:17 pmThat should go over real well. His approval rating could go into the teens on that one.
Comment by Bluedog49 — January 12, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
I’m thinking single digit approval ratings…
January 12th, 2007 at 7:27 pmHey, Zoo
Nice to see you are alive and well and holding your own! But you are kicking a dead horse. True and Unbelievable done tore this one a new one!
Come down here to Arizona and take your damn snow back. Granny got a new swimming pool for Christmas now she is bitching about having to buy ice skates to use it.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:28 pmWhat you definitely will not hear from Bush:
“I’m vetoing this legislation because I want to make sure that the third most profitable industry in the United States continues to make record profits. Look, they’ve got 6 million people taking mood-altering pharmaceuticals on a daily basis and we’ve got to keep their drug dealers happy.”
January 12th, 2007 at 7:31 pmNice to see you are alive and well and holding your own! But you are kicking a dead horse. True and Unbelievable done tore this one a new one!
That’s what smells in here! :)
Come down here to Arizona and take your damn snow back. Granny got a new swimming pool for Christmas now she is bitching about having to buy ice skates to use it.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
I’ve got enough snow, thank you very much! And a bruised leg and arm from falling in it. I’ll take your snow, if you take our temps. Our high was 10 degrees today. :P
Well? Get Granny the ice skates!!
January 12th, 2007 at 7:33 pmthey’ve got 6 million people taking mood-altering pharmaceuticals on a daily basis
Comment by Bluedog49 — January 12, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
You say that like it’s a bad thing! ;)
January 12th, 2007 at 7:35 pmVery funny, Jules. I’m all for people being happy, but stripping people of conscience and engendering suicidal tendancies is my concern. It’s also important to keep in mind that most of these drugs are habit forming. I’m not talking about bong hits or a glass of wine here. These drugs are dangerous.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:47 pmOne man can veto. Can you say dictatorship, boys and girls?
January 12th, 2007 at 7:51 pmIt is just like Pelosi not allowing American Somoa to get a decent livable minimum wage like the rest of us simply to give a handout to a huge corporate buddy.
Comment by Roger_Roger — January 12, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
This one talking point of yours was already debunked yesterday -with the help of Exley, no less.
I will type the explanation slowly, so you can follow along: The Fair Labor Act contains a section that explicitly excludes American Samoa from the minimum wage law. The bill Pelosi sponsored does not amend the Fair Labor Act to include Samoa, so the new minimum wage still does not apply to it.
Pelosi did not introduce the section that excludes American Samoa. It was already there. Also, the section contains wording calling for the rates to be established in accordance to the recommendations by a special industry committe. Here is the link to the chapter and section (scroll down to section #3):
U.S. Code collection – TITLE 29 > CHAPTER 8 > § 206 Minimum wage
You have been debunked. Twice. It is not that you are dense -you are being wilfully dishonest. Although methinks you are a little slow too.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:51 pmZoo,
Are you OK?
January 12th, 2007 at 7:58 pmI know a good lawyer if you need one…
;)
The United States is the onlyi ndustrialized contry in the world, who’s government does not own and control pharmaceuticals. Other countries regulate what the pharmaceutical companies can charge (which why Canada’s are cheaper than ours). Because our country doesn’t, we get the jacked up prices to off set what they can’t get out of other countries.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:58 pmGood evening,
Seems our Congress is doing some good work here. Where are the detractors?
January 12th, 2007 at 8:03 pmThis is the post that I should’ve made about the drama surrounding the deletion of Spocko’s Brain’s blog at the hands of Melanie Morgan and her flying monkeys at KSFO.
If you don’t know about this despicable act of right wing censorship, get in on the ground floor, apprise yourself of what’s going on and spread the word. Blogger caving in to ABC’s pressure and deleting Spocko’s blog is beyond simply wrong.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:05 pmEven IF Bushiva vetoes EVERY piece of legislation the Democratic Congress passes…
…it’s good to have at least the semblance of “checks and balances” again…
…given the fact that we taxpayers foot the bill for MUCH of the r/d budgets of big pharma…
…IF Repulsivescum don’t join Dems to provide 60 veto override votes…
…then their TREASON should be all too apparent to ALL (working poor, middle class Americans)…
January 12th, 2007 at 8:12 pmA question: If DUHbya vetoes a law, what is required by whom to override the veto? It is late and I am lazy. Please do my homework.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:24 pmClyde the Ripper sez:
Heh…at least you’re honest about it. ^_^
To override a Presidential veto, the bill needs to pass through the House and Senate again, with a 2/3 majority or better in both houses.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:34 pmI wonder if Roger Rhetoric also reads the National Enquirer?
Next thing ya know he will be running around shouting about how the aliens have taken over the minds of congress and that Pelosi is a Reptilian from Orion trying to Dragonize the world and enslave man, like cattle, so he can be sauteed, stewed and fed to the masses soon to wake up on frozen planet X.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:36 pmI’ve got enough snow, thank you very much! And a bruised leg and arm from falling in it. I’ll take your snow, if you take our temps. Our high was 10 degrees today. :P
Well? Get Granny the ice skates!!
Comment by Zoo
I drove thru Idaho not to long ago, and it was 18 degrees with a 50 mph wind. The uhaul I was driving, loaded, I had to actually accelerate downhill to maintain my speed. And these were fairly steep inclines.
January 12th, 2007 at 8:40 pm#60 TPM
Thanks!
January 12th, 2007 at 8:40 pmIt’s been predicted that when Bushbutt’s numbers get to 28%, the congress will have no alternative to bring about impeachment proceedings so let’s see how long that will be…hmmmmm. His first veto will bring it down to 29%….second veto will net 28%…..bring on the bills, bring on the vetoes, but by all means bring ‘em on with impeachment proceedings. The people of this country are crying for it!
January 12th, 2007 at 8:50 pmIf what I’ve read on smirkingchip.com is now common knowledge and that he suffers from a form of sociopathy associated with profund mental illness, then perhaps he can slip out of town with his tail between his legs and check himself into a psych ward to save face? After all Foley perv checked into an AA clinic for pedophilia? I think Bush’s MD needs to seriously consider offering him an option “out” at this point. Regardless of the way in which it occurs, it must occur or this country will be finito given two more years of sociopathic, psychpathological behavior at it’s helm.
And I’m not certain if the speech problems, lisping, and otherwise seeming to be scrambled in the brain lately is a hallmark of alcohol abuse once again or heavy psychiatric drugs. Anyone know?
January 12th, 2007 at 8:53 pmDo you mean to tell me that it’s even a consideration to have illegal aliens (criminals by our immigration standards) covered by health care? What the hell’s wrong with this country?? We haven’t even given our citizens of Katrina what we owe them and we’re thinking about giving illegals health care? Time for another Boston Tea Party – taxation without representation (or sanity as this case may be!). April is right around the corner…..between the withholding of money due to taxation without representation and the demonstrations which will increase in intensity following Bush’s last ridiculous speech, 2007 is already shaping up to be a historic year!
January 12th, 2007 at 8:56 pmTonight, I’m more optimistic that Bush will eventually be impeached.
What’s the reason for my optimism? I have reason to believe that Barbara Bush has turned against her son. Sad, but likely.
BUSH IS BITCH, posted by Rick Brannon, sounds like something Barbara Bush would post. Yes! Yes! Yes! Remember Barbara Bush’s reference to Geraldine Ferraro, “It rhymes with rich.” This post seems to have Barbara’s fingerprints written all over it.
With Barbara Bush’s name in the impeachment column, George will be packing his bags soon.
Just remember Republicans, it’s hard to pull a fast one on TP posters. Don’t even try.
John
January 12th, 2007 at 9:12 pmJohn help me understand what you are talking about.
January 12th, 2007 at 9:20 pmLower prescription drug prices would be like a tax cut for the poor and middle class.
I hope Bush don’t veto what amounts to a tax break.
January 12th, 2007 at 9:28 pmhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-2545514,00.html
Claims of terror safe haven denied
Times Online – 3 hours ago
Pakistan yesterday rejected allegations by the American National Intelligence Director that the country was a refuge for terror leaders.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0112/p99s01-duts.html
US intel chief: Al Qaeda active, strong in Pakistani hideout
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/488087p-410903c.html
Rabbis throw book at Jimmy
New York Daily News – 17 hours ago
BY OWEN MORITZ. Outraged by Jimmy Carter’s controversial new book, the nation’s largest organization of rabbis yesterday pulled out of a planned visit to the former President’s human rights center in Atlanta.
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=24746
Carter Center board members rebuke Carter’s leadership BP News
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/carter-fans-quit-over-israel-book/2007/01/12/1168105181409.html
January 12th, 2007 at 9:34 pmCarter fans quit over Israel book The Age
AkaDad sez:
Well, I hoped that Chimpy wouldn’t attempt to abrogate the Constitution, pitch our country into a hopeless, endless, immoral, and illegal invasion and occupation, and utterly destroy our international reputation while terrorizing his own constituents.
Look how that turned out.
Given his track record, I wouldn’t invest too much ‘hope’ in Chimpy doing the right thing.
January 12th, 2007 at 9:48 pmI would imagine Barbara Bush is in a state of deep depression. Previously, depression has touched her life. Currently, how could she not be depressed knowing that her son has caused so much pain and grief, not only in America but the world?
Surely she senses that her son is lost and searching for a way out. George’s face may have been an indicator of many things the other night, but one thing was certain: IT REVEALED A DEER IN THE HEADLIGHTS.
Apparently, Barbara Bush refers to people as bitches. ‘Bitch’ was her assessment of, Geraldine Ferraro.
Tonight, a TP poster labels Bush as being a bitch. Is this Barbara Bush posting? No! No! If it is, she’s more depressed than I thought. However, a depressed person may do many strange and unusual things. My personal assessment of George Bush is that he may very well have depression. If it’s not depression, it’s another psychological disorder. From my point of view, something psychological is going on. That’s my inner sense.
Democrats have been called every name in the book, as Republicans seem to be quite mean-spirited. Yes, there are nasty Democrats, too, but nastiness seems to be part and parcel with being a Republican.
You’ve got to fight back, and I’m fighting back. I saw the word: bitch, and I immediately associated ‘bitch’ with Barbara Bush’s reference to Geraldine Ferraro.
John
January 12th, 2007 at 10:03 pmJohn, take a break man, the lady has probably never used the internets.
January 12th, 2007 at 10:07 pm#’s 74 and 75
For B. Bush “Bitch” is an autobiography. I don’t know if she has ever used the internet but she certainly has never been a lady, except in title by default,
January 12th, 2007 at 10:21 pmTruth,
Barbara Bush is fair game. My joke may have come across as a little flat, but nonetheless she is fair game.
Neil Bush is fair game. Will Neil Bush take a break from cashing in on his famous last name? Highly doubtful!
John
January 12th, 2007 at 10:28 pmiba bin lernin frum Neel’s edumacashunal shtuff.
January 12th, 2007 at 10:36 pmBarbara is way fair game, she spawned the boy king. We wouldn’t want to cloud up her beautiful mind with dead people. She’s so cold, her kid became a sociopath. She probably didn’t bond with her babies. Some nanny raised them.
January 12th, 2007 at 10:39 pmHow about that Noelle? ***double eye roll***
January 12th, 2007 at 10:40 pmBig papa,
January 12th, 2007 at 11:02 pmIt takes 67 votes in the Senate and 290 in the House to override a veto. The 60(or %) vote rule applies to fillibusters in the Senate.
Rachel & Clyde,
Barbara Bush has a public image of being “sweet” and gracious. However, she has made some very insensitive comments. She may appear sweet on the outside, but I have a hunch she’s as tough as nails.
Yeah, I wish I could cash in on my last name. It ain’t going to buy me much.
I’m not familar with the ‘BITCH’ book. The Bush family is not one of my favorite subjects, though. Getting beyond the first page of a book with all of the details about greed and shady business deals would be toooooo much for me.
Millie Bush, the dog, may be the favorite Bush. Well, I guess all of the Bush’s are dogs. Well, I guess cats, too. FAT CATS!
John
January 12th, 2007 at 11:05 pm#59:
The constitution states 2/3 of the house I believe. It might be 2/3 of congress as a whole.
Either way, though, Bush will just issue a signing statement saying we can all go to hell and die before we get any.
I’m surprised he hasn’t signed an executive order that sets all Americans ablaze to his orders. But then again, that’d lose a lot of good little WASP consumers.
Oh well, maybe next time around, P-Man.
January 12th, 2007 at 11:10 pmXbot-
January 12th, 2007 at 11:52 pmVeto overide must be 2/3 of House and 2/3 of Senate.
Yeah, you’re right, the signing statement is His Royal Arrogancy’s way of telling America he is all wise and all powerful. I’m sure it is all about some physical deficit he’s compensating for.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aFOgp5SUnMlo&refer=home
Japan Warns of Tsunami Following Major Quake in Pacific Ocean
Bloomberg – 23 minutes ago
By Steven Bodzin and Hiroshi Suzuki. Jan. 13 (Bloomberg) — Japan’s Meteorological Agency issued a tsunami warning over the eastern coast of Hokkaido in northern Japan after an earthquake northeast of the island that the US Geological Survey measured …
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SP199617.htm
January 13th, 2007 at 1:10 amTsunami warning in Japan after strong Pacific quake
Reuters AlertNet
http://www.iranmania.com/ News/ ArticleView/ Default.asp?NewsCode=48814&NewsKind=Current%20Affairs
Iran demands halt in US illegal moves in Iraq
IranMania News – 31 minutes ago
LONDON, January 13 (IranMania) – Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki condemned the US raid on Iran’s Consulate General in Erbil, saying such an attempt runs contrary to the Vienna Convention, IRNA reported.
Iraq: Detained Iranians had gov’t authorization Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/ servlet/ Satellite?cid=1167467721432&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
Iraqi FM: Liaison Office Raided in Thursday’s Operation in Irbil Voice of America
January 13th, 2007 at 1:36 amhttp://www.voanews.com/english/2007-01-12-voa23.cfm
As a vet, yeah most my meds are generic, but where generic doesn’t work I get the name brand and all at the same price.
January 13th, 2007 at 2:10 am“This is a common tactic of leftist liberal crackpots: Using unedited audio clips of your own voices uttering your own words with just a little context to smear their perceived enemies. The Nancy Pelosi comment, obviously, was blown way out of proportion. Everyone knows that bullseyes are the center of a target and are perceived as such colloquially as well as literally. Does that mean that you want to shoot the Speaker of the House in the eye with a gun? Of course not! Bows and arrows can do the job just as effectively in the hands of an experienced yeoman and are quieter, besides…” — Open Letter to Melanie Morgan.
January 13th, 2007 at 2:22 amhttp://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=5932972&nav=3w6o
WFIE-TV – 38 minutes ago
Rice: Bush authorised raids on Iranians in Iraq
Washington & Bahghdad: Recent US military raids against Iranians in Iraq were authorised by President George W. Bush under an order for a broad offensive against Iranian operatives in the country, the New York Times said on its Web site on Friday.
“There has been a decision to go after these networks,” the Times quoted Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice saying in an interview conducted on Friday before leaving on a Middle East trip.
She said Bush issued the order several months ago “after a period of time in which we saw increasing activity” among Iranians in Iraq “and increasing lethality in what they were producing.”
The Bush administration has long accused Iran of interfering in Iraq, including providing weapons and training to Shi’ite forces.
But US military officials and Iranian exiles say there is increasing evidence that many of the most sophisticated roadside bombs being used against US troops are produced in Iran.
January 13th, 2007 at 3:31 amhttp://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=5934310
Tsunami warning issued for coast
KTUU – 50 minutes ago
by Megan Baldino and Mike Ross. Anchorage, Alaska – A tsunami advisory was issued earlier tonight for parts of coastal Alaska and has caused some frazzled nerves around the state.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/nation/4468337.html
Tsunami warning issued for Alaska Houston Chronicle
http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/10737004/detail.html
January 13th, 2007 at 3:42 amHawaii Under Tsunami Watch After Japan-Area Quake Hawaii Channel.com
#78 –
And so is Marvin *Silverado Savings and Loan* Bush
Comment by rachel b blair — January 12, 2007 @ 10:30 pm
Actually it was Neil Bush that helped ruin Silverado. Not Marvin. Read about it here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Bush
Neil is the leech in the family…A real loser!!
January 13th, 2007 at 3:59 amNot the leech. Just the most inept in a family of leeches. All criminals are leeches by definition.
January 13th, 2007 at 4:08 amLISTEN PEOPLE…
Lies, lies, and more lies. Are you kidding me the democrats are
serving the people…….. yeh right
RIGHT NOW… the lobbyists are scrambling and hooking the lobbyists,
it’s all prebacrication.
just give it 6 months and this facade will come tumbling down and lobbyists
and corruption will take over.
now with what the democrats are doing will result in tense lobbyists
and as usual lining the democrats party….
i don’t buy that the democrats are service the american people… what
they are doing is calling the lobbyists to start lining the democrats
pockets simply using fear… just wait and you will see.
i give it at most 12 – 18 months and 1994 will repeat itself
January 13th, 2007 at 5:21 am—
why do you think those hypocrits threatened we are going to clean
up ethics during the first 100 hours then immeidately held a fundraiser
at $1000 plate…. corrupt, corrupt = TOTALLY CORRUPT…. it’s all a facade and snake oil for the american people — i don’t buy it ONE BIT
Comment by jimbo — January 13, 2007 @ 5:21 am
You are right! I just posted this on another thread here…
If you rounded up all the Congress critters and Senator snakes into a room you would not find even the hint of a spine. In fact, you wouldn’t be able to find any cartilage or spinal fluid!
January 13th, 2007 at 5:44 am“Negotiations are occurring, as they should be, between the wide range of prescription drug plans that negotiate on behalf of millions of Americans and America’s pharmaceutical companies,” said Billy Tauzin, chief executive officer of the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America, in a statement. “Market competition and lower bids by plans continue to dramatically lower the cost of the program for taxpayers as well.”
Is there any way to verify if this is even remotely true? How many of the bills are negotiating? And why do these ideologues persist in the ridiculous belief that “the market” will do what’s best for the people as a whole? (”The market” only does what’s best for investors, not the citizens.) From what I understood, Billy “Give-Me-A-Job-And-I’ll-Let-You-Write-The-Bill” Tauzin not only let Big Pharma prohibit the government from negotiating for lower drug prices, he let them change the plans without letting people drop out of them. People who sign up could be locked in for a period of time during which the drug companoes can raise co-payments and other out-of-pocket expenses.
The federal government has a constitutional duty to “promote the general welfare”. After the Senate passes their version and it goes to conference, I suggest that the final bill contain the following “Whereas” clauses (you know, those “justifications” for the law):
Then, when Bush vetoes the legislation, he will be rejecting a bill passed specifically to correct an unconstitutional defect in the original bill. This, then, may provide yet another ground for impeachment and removal from office. (He can’t claim he’s acting in the interests of the people if he vetoes a bill with this language, can he?)
January 13th, 2007 at 7:51 amCorrection: “How many of the bills are negotiating?” should read “How many of the plans are negotiating?”
The New York Waynes regrets the error.
January 13th, 2007 at 7:54 amWhat your article DOESN’T report, is that many of the drugs now offered under Medicare Part D would NOT be available if the government decided to negotiate directly with pharmaceutical companies, as is the case with the VA.
Dems will NEVER understand economics – if you set prices, then you will cause shortages, as was prevalent in the former Soviet Union. Medicare Part D has cost UNDERruns, as a result of allowing market forces to set prices, while still maintaining a large selection of drugs and good service for the users of Medicare. ONLY a communist would want to destroy a viable system like that.
January 13th, 2007 at 9:11 amVeto? Bet he uses a “Signing Statement”…
Amazing what a New Majority can achieve. Now we see if the Senate follows thru.
January 13th, 2007 at 9:16 amComment by Jason M. Hendler — January 13, 2007 @ 9:11 am
No Jason, you’rewrong yet again. What you don’t get is that the problem is the ridiculous profits Corporate gluttons are attaching to these medications that drive their prices up.
Anyone who thinks they deserve to get rich off of sick elderly people is screwed up. But we already knew that about you.
January 13th, 2007 at 10:58 amClash of political agenda’s. Elderly should be cared by the state.
http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com
January 13th, 2007 at 11:21 am#113, unbee,
Only a communist would slander a profitable enterprise as evil. Businesses are intended to be profitable, and it is ONLY the lure of profits that has allowed enough capital to be sunk into drug research and development, otherwise, those “sick elderly people” would remain sick and die.
As long as a problem is addressed and solved more quickly and cheaply than any government could, why do you give a damn if someone has made a profit? Would you rather pay 10X for your food and clothing, as long as NO ONE made a profit? You would cut off your nose just to spite your face.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:44 amrachel b blair = patricia reglin aka Wellsley,others.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:50 amPAT reglin is a banned troll.
“Only a communist would slander a profitable enterprise as evil.”
I.G. Farben was just doing good business in WWII then. What’s a little Zyklon B between friends?
Or selling cigarettes to as many minors as possible?
January 13th, 2007 at 11:57 amThat’s it, go back to WWII to cite examples of evil – don’t forget throwing Hitler into the mix. As for cigarettes, again, you have to go back to the 1970’s – libs live in the past, knocking down strawmen …
Under Medicare Part D, the pharmaceutical industry has come in below government estimates and have saved the government and medicare users a lot of money – how can you possible call them evil? The whole system has succeeded in created the best health care system in the world, causing most foreign heads of state to seek treatment here, instead of their own nations.
You focus on eliminating inequity has only one possible result – everyone is equally poorly served.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:04 pmOnly a communist would slander a profitable enterprise as evil.
The whole system has succeeded in created the best health care system in the world,
That 40% of the working population doesn’t have access to . . .
Why is that?
January 13th, 2007 at 12:21 pm“You focus on eliminating inequity has only one possible result – everyone is equally poorly served.”
I understand now. Your argument is that inequity should be ignored so at least those exploiting it can enjoy some benefits – e.g. as long as someone is making money and is happy (however that money may be earned) that is good enough.
Additionally, I guess an underlying message (or veiled sort of threat) is that that group of enjoying someones better damned well include Jason M. Hendler. If not, then (and only then) action of some sort is required.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:25 pmI wouldn’t cry for Big Pharma; they spend 60% of their funds on marketing, not research.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:25 pmIt’s been predicted that when Bushbutt’s numbers get to 28%, the congress will have no alternative to bring about impeachment proceedings so let’s see how long that will be…hmmmmm. His first veto will bring it down to 29%….second veto will net 28%…..bring on the bills, bring on the vetoes, but by all means bring ‘em on with impeachment proceedings. The people of this country are crying for it!
Comment by veritas — January 12, 2007 @ 8:50
Wow. We must think alike. This is what I was going to post last night, but decided not to at the last minute:
I’ve just now thought up a new game. Under what circumstances will Bush be impeached? Here’s my prediction: if Bush sustains a 29% approval rating for three consecutive weeks (about eight news cycles), the momentum will be unstoppable, and he’ll lose his media; AM radio, and conservative publications, which are vital to keeping Bush’s political aura positively charged. There is an economic cut-off point, at which news and opinion venues will begin to feel the pain of continued support, and a sustained 29% will be the point where advertisers start demanding editorial changes or start looking elsewhere.
January 13th, 2007 at 12:30 pmThanks WaltTheMan #82
January 13th, 2007 at 1:14 pmI was in the ballpark…
Mr. Hendler,
Please stop defending greed. Neither unbelievable nor I are communists. I won’t speak for anyione else but I feel that healthcare should be driven by altruism, not capitalism.
There is something wrong with a person who sees nothing wrong with making huge profits off the sick and dying. Something inhuman.
January 13th, 2007 at 1:40 pm“Neither unbelievable nor I are communists.”
Neither am I, for the record; however, Jason M. Hendler’s definition of “communist” would appear to be “anyone who disagrees with Jason M. Hendler.”
It is also interesting (ironic or just Alanis-ironic?) that he accuses me of digging into the past for my examples, when his own repeated bleats of “communist! communist!” are pure 1950s. Perhaps Jason M. Hendler stands with Ann Coulter in considering Joe McCarthy a maligned American hero. If that is the case I scarcely see the point in attempting to engage Jason M. Hendler in any kind of dialogue, since he would appear to be merely a jerking knee.
January 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pmJason M. Hendler: what the F is your problem? I recently had a heart attack and my meds, my copays–are thru the roof. If you don’t know what the F you are talking about, in regards to real people paying out real money, money we don’t have, STFU already. My husband has been disabled since 1989 and if you think his meds don’t cost, think again. And that is WITH INSURANCE.
Maybe that is why some of us in the last frigging year have dealt with things like foreclosure, bankruptcy and a frigging heart attack. I am employed full time and not for minimum wage either. And then to tell someone that we gotta protect the PROFITS, give me a frigging break. These aholes have enough money to last them and their worthless prodgeny forever. I hope my kids will have enough to frigging bury my a**!!
Sorry you all, this Hendler is a nutcase, greedy little moron. And the fact that there are 30% of these people out there is sickening in and of itself.
Peace to everyone else. *gotta go check my bp now*
January 13th, 2007 at 2:07 pmHas Rush Limbaugh spoken out in favor yet? He knows far more than I do about bulk prices for prescription drugs…
January 13th, 2007 at 2:57 pm“Sir” Greg Nevins
Again, you post this after you’ve been informed numerous times here at TP that it was the Republicans who requested the day off. Further, four days per week is still more than Congress 109 put in. Further still, the Democrats are getting more done in a week than the Republicans did in years.
Get over it.
January 13th, 2007 at 4:18 pmJason Henler believes in the magic of the free market. But, evidently Jason’s vision of a “free” market doesn’t include a bunch of customers getting together under the umbrella of one organization, Medicare, and negotiating for a volume discount. Jason’s “free” market only allows corporations to negotiate terms suitable to them. Citizens aren’t allowed to take part in the “free” market.
January 13th, 2007 at 4:30 pmThat seems to be all Greg Nevin’s got. He’s a one-trick pony.
January 13th, 2007 at 4:34 pmSince the trolls on this thread are attempting to besmerch the character of the new Congress which has, quite effectively, worked more in one week for the american people than the rethug congress did all year! There’s clear evidence to support this comment.
When it comes to putting sporting events before politics, did anyone notice that Mr. Super Rethug “Flipper” McCain was there for opening toss???? Yeah, right! Who was it who asked for the time off?? ALL REPUBLICANS!!
So put that in your sycophantic pipe and smoke it #131 Greg Nevins. Before you go around casting blame on people, you’d better do your homework to see precisely WHO it was who wanted to go to the game and not work…..MC Cain, Boehner”bonerbrain”, and a cadre of Republicans, that’s who!
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Idiot Nevins,
Tired of talking to yourself yet?
January 13th, 2007 at 5:20 pmNevins: “There is NO THING AS A FREE LUNCH, which ALL YOU LEFT WING LIBERALS THINK YOUR ENTITLED TO.”
Not that there’s any point to arguing with such an hysterical and unreasonable person, but 55% of all pharmaceutical company research is already taxpayer funded and pharmaceutical companies pay, on the average, 40% less taxes than similar sized corporations because of special tax breaks. The pharma industry is the third most profitable industries in the U.S. behind Insurance and Energy.
After we pay pharma companies to help them develop new drugs, they get to keep the patents and the public pays the highest prices in the world for the drugs. Why do you hate our country so much that you want our citizens to pay more for the same drugs after we pay out of our own pockets to help them develop them? That doesn’t seem fair to Americans to me. You evidently have a different view.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:28 pmPlease.
My IQ is far above yours, and if I may add,
I’m not the idiot talking to myself…..
Think about it.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:33 pmWell, seems TP is blocking / deleting my posts again.
I stated before that allowing pharmaceutical corporations to pursue product development by laying out their own capital at great risk that years of research may not pan out, is far cheaper to the consumer, than creating government institutions to do the work.
unbelievable would rather pay 10X for her food and clothes than allow any food producer or clothing manuracturer to EARN a profit – THAT is a communist.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:34 pmNarrow minded?
You’ve got to be sh*tting me, Nevs.
My view is quite expansive on gays, human rights, religious tolerance AND seperation from gvt.
Race, creed, doesn’t matter to us liberals.
The Koran? Swear on it. Fine. We accept all. As long as you do not tread on the rights of others.
You? I think not…..
January 13th, 2007 at 5:37 pmtrue,
FOUL! You cannot relabel tax BREAKS as tax FUNDING!
Tax FUNDING is when the government hands over money from the treasury to corporations to pay for R&D, whereas a tax BREAK is allowing a corporation to KEEP money that the corp EARNED, as long as it is applied to R&D that the government condones.
Moreover, whatever federal funds were used to fund preliminary R&D at universities, is NOWHERE near the investment corporations spend getting the drugs developed from human treatment and tested over the 14 years the FDA requires in order to approve a drug.
Governments have always made these arrangements with capitalists, in order to better serve the common good, and ONLY a communist would want to destroy that in order that ALL people are EQUALLY POORLY SERVED.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:39 pmTP has been blocking MANY voices.
Zoo cannot post.
Briseadh na Faire cannot post.
I haven’t checked all of today’s posts, but I bet if I did I could come up with other names.
Plus, ONE STORY TODAY?????????
WTF?
There are plenty of stories out there.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:42 pmI posted them on the above thread.
At least I’M working, TP!
Ppppfffththththth!
I worked at a Federally funded research lab, Idiot Jason.
Whitehead Institute for Genome Research.
Go Dick Cheney yourself.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:44 pmI don’t talk to trash.
#134, bluedog,
A government does NOT negotiate. A government mandates / sets prices. If these people want to negotiate better prices, they should look to overseas markets for those drugs – oh, wait, overseas governments / economies haven’t created drugs as cheap / effective as the US pharmaceutical corps ….
As for the old bitch griping about her sick husband – his lame ass would be dead by now, if it weren’t for the capital funded R&D performed by our pharmaceutical industry, so be thankful there are meds at ANY price ….
January 13th, 2007 at 5:45 pmHendler: “I stated before that allowing pharmaceutical corporations to pursue product development by laying out their own capital at great risk that years of research may not pan out, is far cheaper to the consumer, than creating government institutions to do the work.”
I keep posting this and you keep pretending not to notice. Over 55% of all drug research conducted by pharmaceutical companies is TAXPAYER FUNDED! WTF are you talking about? There is no “free market.” It’s an oligarchy which works with friends in government to fix prices so that we pay far more than citizens in other countries. What don’t you get about that???!!!
January 13th, 2007 at 5:46 pmNevins, if you’re only self-defense against this information is to call me a liar, I guess the only thing left for me to say is f*ck you, but you might want to go over to Public Citizen. They’ve got all the facts on what we call “corporate welfare.” We spend a lot more taxpayer money helping corporations than we do helping people. You may not have known that. Anyway, again, f*ck you a-hole.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:52 pm#163, Sir Greg Nevins,
What a coincidence – we have cheaper gasoline prices than any other nation, and greater drug selection / availability than any other nation. I would luv to say that our insurance rates are lower, but trial lawyers have severely hurt the medical, insurance and business industries for years, so that our rates won’t be reduced until trial lawyers are reigned in.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:55 pmBluedog49 –
Notice a lot of regulars haven’t been around today?
Zoo, BnF, have not been able to post while the trolls run amok.
The regulars are planning. You are a regular.
January 13th, 2007 at 5:59 pmWant in?
Nevins your mind must be too confused to realize this, but there are many stops on the road between pure market capitalist and communist. It’s not an either/or thing. Personally, I agree with the Father of Capitalism, Adam Smith that capitalism must be regulated for a healthy civil society.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:03 pmDepends on what you’re planning.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:06 pm#167, Bluedog,
Adam Smith’s understanding of “regulated” is a far cry from “setting prices”, as you want the government to do under Medicare Part D.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:07 pmHenler: “What a coincidence – we have cheaper gasoline prices than any other nation, and greater drug selection / availability than any other nation. I would luv to say that our insurance rates are lower, but trial lawyers have severely hurt the medical, insurance and business industries for years, so that our rates won’t be reduced until trial lawyers are reigned in.”
There’s just so much misinformation there, it’s hard not to believe you’re doing it on purpose. A number of nations have cheaper gas prices. In Venezuela, people pay about 20 cents a gallon. Some European countries offer a much more expanded drug selection than we do. In France many drugs are available that aren’t here. The money insurance pays for legal claims represents less than 2% of earnings, while advertising is their greatest expense – close to 40% in some cases. Where do you get your info, Hendler? It’s just all wrong.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:10 pmBluedog—
Do you want in?
January 13th, 2007 at 6:12 pmMaybe my post was swallowed up by the trolls…..
Hendler: “Adam Smith’s understanding of “regulated†is a far cry from “setting pricesâ€, as you want the government to do under Medicare Part D.”
Negotiating for volume discounts as the Veterans Administration already does for veterans is what Smith would call “market forces.” Volume discounts are part of any “free” market, right? If not, why not. You think a Supermarket chain pays the same for toilet paper as a Mom&Pop convenience store? Come on.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:15 pm#173, Bluedog49,
Ah, yes, Venezuala, which seized the assets of foreign oil companies, and now GIVE away their natural resource at COST.
As for France, yes, they DO offer abortificants and “morning-after” miscarriage drugs that the US bans – and Holland allows the sale of marijuana and opiates – you got me …
January 13th, 2007 at 6:15 pmBluedog,
I agree, having NON-governmental organizations negotiate volume discounts IS part of Adam Smith’s understand of market forces, but I TOTALLY DISAGREE that having a governmental organization negotiate volume discounts IS. You cannot have the regulating body ALSO SET PRICES. Can you at least admit there is a significant difference between these two cases, or am I spinning my wheels with you?
January 13th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI would luv to say that our insurance rates are lower, but trial lawyers have severely hurt the medical, insurance and business industries for years, so that our rates won’t be reduced until trial lawyers are reigned in
More baloney. A recent study showed that the greatest number of lawsuits were — get ready for it — filed between companies!
That’s right folks, the conservative canard was recently proven wrong! More lawsuits were filed by companies trying to gain economic advantage over their competitors by filing suit to block patents, intimidate competitors (or just drive them out of business) than were filed by those injured by products, or by company procedures.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:23 pmNevins: “JUST HOW MANY JOBS HAVE YOU CREATED????”
12 full-time and 6 part time. And, no tax breaks to do it either.
Jason, I think I see the problem here. You are under the mistaken impression that Medicare and our government is NOT the people. Our government is the representative of the people. That’s the way the founders meant it to be at least. When Medicare negotiates for lower prices, it is doing it on behalf of the people, not on behalf of government. Government doesn’t take drugs, people do.
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January 13th, 2007 at 6:25 pm#181, Bluedog,
I understand that the government is supposed to be by, of and for the people, but you CANNOT have the REGULATING body (government) also be the NEGOTIATING body (government), because it becomes PRICE SETTING, not a true negotiation, because the gov holds ALL the cards.
If Walmart or AARP want to negotiate volume discounts on drugs (as I know they are want to do), then THAT is fine, because neither organization regulates that industry.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:28 pmYou cannot have the regulating body ALSO SET PRICES. Can you at least admit there is a significant difference between these two cases, or am I spinning my wheels with you?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Well, now that the “regulating bodies” are packed with industry insiders, why don’t you think their interests will be looked after?
January 13th, 2007 at 6:30 pmNot challenging my facts about lawsuits, Jason? That tells me you knew your spin was baloney when you spouted it.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:32 pmRegulations are for the safety of citizens. Negotiations on price are conducted by everyone in a given market irrespective of regulations. You’re mixing the two up. And, the government does not hold all the cards. The government is buying something for it’s citizens and the drug companies are selling, just like in Austrailia, Canada, most of Europe and all the other industrialized nations of the world. Listen, I gotta go, but you and your cult leader are going to have a very difficult time selling his veto to the public on this one. That’s the bottom line.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:37 pm184, barfly,
Make up your mind, is the government by, of and for the people, or are they a bunch of industry insiders? or are they packed with communists who want to redistribute wealth from those who know how to create it to those who only consume it?
You create balance by having several corporations, who represent their investors, competing for government contracts, thus driving DOWN prices below the governments own estimates, which is why this program is more successfull than most other social programs the government administers.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:37 pmNevins: “Where in the CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY THAT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A CONSTIUTIONAL DUTY TO “PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE??????”
In the preamble. God, you’re stupid.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:41 pmHey look a picture of Sir Greg Nevins
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January 13th, 2007 at 6:43 pmbarfly,
As for lawsuits, having worked in the high tech industry, it doesn’t surprise me that corporations are now using lawyers to thug their way through markets, because I’ve seen it. MicroSoft is the best example of a company that used lawyers and market dominance to generate the wealthiest individuals in the world. I also wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t some new insurance to protect corps from corporate lawsuits, in addition to the class action suits.
It all boils down to a protection racket.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:44 pmMake up your mind, is the government by, of and for the people, or are they a bunch of industry insiders?
Do you really look at all issues with such child-like naivete’?
I take it case by case.
In the case of Big pharma, it is true that Bush has packed the regulatory agencies with insiders for the last six years – or do you dispute this? Since the agencies will, in this case, be part of the negotiations on drug prices, and these “former” insiders will have intimate knowledge of pricing, production, and marketing – things invaluable for legislators to know when deciding the proper prices – why don’t you think Big Pharma’s interests will be protected in this specific instance?
January 13th, 2007 at 6:45 pmNevins: “Where in the CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY THAT
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS A CONSTIUTIONAL DUTY TO “PROMOTE THE GENERAL WELFARE??????â€
Now you see Bush thinks it is just a piece of paper the Constitution so Sir Greg Nevins naturally forgot about that first part the preamble
I agree Bluedog49
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January 13th, 2007 at 6:48 pmI also wouldn’t be surprised if there isn’t some new insurance to protect corps from corporate lawsuits, in addition to the class action suits.
It all boils down to a protection racket.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Thnks for admitting that you don’t know what you’re talking about when it comes to “tort reform” — it was pretty apparent to the rest of us, but I’m glad you’re not so divorced from reality, that you couldn’t eventually see it for yourself.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:51 pm#193, barfly,
LMFAO – would you prefer that these agencies be staffed by individuals who are NOT familiar with their respective industries?
If, perhaps, these individuals actually waive some regulations that they know to be frivoless, in order to help these companies lower prices while maintaining profits, then I would be happy for their assistance.
January 13th, 2007 at 6:52 pmLMFAO
That’s how I felt, when I read your post on tort reform!
would you prefer that these agencies be staffed by individuals who are NOT familiar with their respective industries?
Yeah, best to duck the question I posed, and try to contsruct a wobbly strawman, instead . . .
If, perhaps, these individuals actually waive some regulations that they know to be frivoless,
What, like giving Big Pharma blanket immunity from civil lawsuits ? LMFAO!
January 13th, 2007 at 7:01 pmnevins is sooooooooooo stupid,…..
(How Stupid Is He?!?!?)
He’s SO stupid,
He Thinks I’m Gay!
January 13th, 2007 at 7:05 pmAnd a Man!
#198, barfly,
Wow, throw you a bone, and you don’t let go ….
I deferred to your statement on trial lawyers as probably true, so get over yourself. How does that justify having the government set prices in a market, which is a hallmark of only TWO forms of government:
fascism and communism
January 13th, 2007 at 7:05 pmbarfly,
join the TP opposition.
the regulars haven’t been able to post all day, while these idiots have run of the place.
I’ve posted my email address on the other thread.
Let me know you are not stupid idiot trolls and I’ll add you to the ever growing list of us who are going to protest TP’s handling of such things.
;)
Thanks.
January 13th, 2007 at 7:11 pmHow does that justify having the government set prices in a market, which is a hallmark of only TWO forms of government:
fascism and communism
You’re trying to go all theoretical on me, when I’m merely pointing out that in this specific instance, Big Pharma’s interests will be shepherded — they won’t be left to the vagaries of legislative sausage-making, with no input into the process. But you have to overlook this, it seems, to try and make a point about Big Government, when in fact, there are other parts of Big Government that you like just fine.
January 13th, 2007 at 7:17 pmTrueblue: what do you mean? They really haven’t been able to post?
And which thread? Some of my posts have been winking out lately, as well.
January 13th, 2007 at 7:19 pmNone, barfly.
None.
Since yesterday.
BnF, since ~ 2 weeks ago.
We’ve all had it, and are talking to each other about letting TP know to honor the tried and true. (ie: let them post!) before giving carte blanche to the trolls.
Let me know.
You can get my email address on the other thread.
Thanks!
January 13th, 2007 at 7:24 pm;)
Which other thread? Or is this a secret?
January 13th, 2007 at 7:29 pmtoday’s…
shhhhhh.
Don’t tell anyone else……..
;)
January 13th, 2007 at 7:33 pmSome of my posts have been winking out lately, as well.
Comment by barfly
mine too barfly
January 13th, 2007 at 7:40 pmSGN
Please continue to use caps as much as possible. This is an enormous benefit as it is otherwise very difficult to hear you with your head wedged so firmly and far up your ass. Thank you and do continue.
January 13th, 2007 at 9:17 pmSGB
You do love to go on about gayness, don’t you? Are you by some chance one of those closeted log cabin damp-eyed nancy-boy republicans? Holey-Moley-Foley! That would explain a lot, wouldn’t it?
January 13th, 2007 at 9:27 pmre 221
Try to use your own words if you can. It makes you look less of a bugwit.
January 13th, 2007 at 9:28 pmYou’re interested in my feelings? Is that why you’re you calling me dear? Hmm…….Sir Greg Nevins……sounds like a poof to me. I’ll bet you attend all the fox hunts, riding side-saddle and vying desparately for the attention of the stallions.
January 13th, 2007 at 9:49 pmTrivia Question:
Sir Greg Nevins was:
A) The indian in the Village People
January 13th, 2007 at 9:54 pmB) The construction worker in the Village People
C) The motorcycle leatherboy in the Village People
D) The cop in the Village People
E) Slept with all the above
I AM REPORTING YOU TO TP FOR BANNING!!!!
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins
Oh that’s rich. You’ve got a hell of a nerve, Nevins.
January 13th, 2007 at 10:09 pmAh! Now Nancy-Nevins suddenly wants to get back on-topic rather than address my suggestions the his chronic gay-bashing comments are the thinly veiled cries of a typical self-hating gay conservative. Guilty as charged!
January 13th, 2007 at 10:11 pmAttack the messenger? So you see yourself as the messenger….Hermes/Mercury was the messenger of the gods, had little flitty wings on his feet and was notoriously light in his Greco-Roman loafers. Sound Familiar? Keep digging deeper, Nevins, the truth is in there and will set you free!
January 13th, 2007 at 10:20 pmWhy do you suppose Nancy-Nevins keep telling the women in this forum to leave? Could it be, could it possibly be that he prefers an all-male, men on men event? Stop living the lie, guy!
January 13th, 2007 at 10:35 pmSo, in your own words you are “OPEN TO EVERYONE”. That is a critical first step in acknowledging your true inner self. Brava!
January 13th, 2007 at 10:44 pmNancy-Nevins
George Bush will never be yours. You must share him with the rest of the country. Accept that and move forward.
January 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pmNancy-Nevins uses the word “assholes” a fair bit as well, does he not? Whatever should one suppose he spends most of his time thinking about?
January 13th, 2007 at 10:56 pmI AM A COMPASSIONATE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICAN…
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pm–Inigo Montoya
So instead of spending time with your “wonderful woman”, you prefer to be here with, as you have previously described the people here as:
YOU GAY LEFT WING LIBERALS
GAY CHAT BLOG
SICK YOU LFFT (sic) WING LIBERAL COMMUNISTS
LEFT WING LIBERAL ASS HOLES WITH YOU
ALL LEFT WING LIBERALS ARE DUMB AS A ROCK
LEFT WING LIBERAL WACK OFFS
If we postulate, for the sake of argument, that these are accurate description of the posters in this forum, then what does that say about you that you would rather spend your evening with people like this instead of with your “wonderful woman”? Why do you continue to live the lie? Free yourself!
January 13th, 2007 at 11:07 pmWE ARE ALL SITTING HERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOUR ‘angry-inch†IS….. WOULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THE LONG AND SHORT IS IT!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
I would say the above comment sums up Nancy-Nevins perfectly. No doubt he does indeed want to be given “THE LONG AND SHORT OF IS (sic) IT”.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:11 pmNancy-Nevins
Asshole is a word used to describe an orifice you spend rather too much time contemplating. Look forward on occasion, instead of ever backward.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmI SUGGEST YOU READ THE BOOK “INFIT FOR COMMAND†WRITTEN BY THE SWIFT BOAT VETERANS…… I HAVE READ IT…..
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins
Imagine that….
January 13th, 2007 at 11:30 pm“NEW LIFE SAVING DRUGS”
I know, I suffer from the life periling restless leg syndrome…………
January 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmSir Greg Nevins eats Haggen Daz Ice cream, while jumping on a pogo stick and playing a computer game. He is a quite a character……
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January 13th, 2007 at 11:37 pmYou know what’s better than reading the comments on tp? It’s watching a nice arab girl belly dance, mmmmmmm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uLXuAg_pToQ
and,
http://youtube.com/watch?v=B_FnYwqlWZM
January 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmDear Zooey — When you learn to READ — I SUGGEST YOU READ IT AND LEARN THE TRUTH WHY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REJECTED JOHN KERRY IN 2004…
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins
Oh heavens, I forgot to learn how to read. Jesus Christ, Nevins, put down the crack pipe.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:49 pm“THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE SUCH CHILDISH BS!!!!!”
by Sir wacko with a social disorder
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January 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmJOHN KERRY HAS REFUSED TO THIS DAY TO RELEASE HIS RECORDS FROM VIETNAM… DESPITE REPEATED REQUESTS FROM NEWS ORGANIZATIONS…..
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 13, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Well, Mr. Nevins, in addition to being unable to spell correctly, you are also incapable of following a link. The news story about Kerry’s release of his military records was already provided to you (you know, the one called “Kerry allows release of his military records”).
Here is another one, from the wikipedia:
John Kerry military service controversy
It is already public knowledge that Kerry has released his military and medical records.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:54 pmMighty Sir Greg M Aphro-Nevins told me that anyone who overuses diacritical marks, capitalization and bolding for emphasis is probably a communist or, worse, a loose-thinking liberal prog homosexual vampire.
Please pass it on. Protect our white children from these fiends.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:57 pmPeople who talk to themselves on the Internet…………………………
http://www.geocities.com/liudegast/vision.html
January 13th, 2007 at 11:58 pmHere a interesting bit of info culled from the Gay.com website
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2003/09/10/2
The article starts with the following:
On Thursday morning, Lambda Legal Defense attorney Greg Nevins will ask a Georgia Superior Court judge to reconsider his denial of a name change to trans woman Vickee Gatliff.
January 13th, 2007 at 11:58 pmHere a interesting bit of info culled from the Gay.com website…
Comment by Dryveby
Priceless….
January 14th, 2007 at 12:05 amNow why do you suppose Nancy-Nevins chose the name of a LAMBDA (LAMBDA is a non-profit, gay / lesbian / bisexual / transgender agency dedicated to reducing homophobia, inequality, hate crimes, and discrimination by encouraging self-acceptance, cooperation, and non-violence) attorney as his nom de goon?
January 14th, 2007 at 12:09 amWHERE ARE THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BACK UP ANY REQUESTS FOR A MEDAL TO BE AWARDED??????
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins — January 13, 2007 @ 11:52 pm
What the hell are you talking about?
I suggest you read up on the criteria used to award a Purple Heart.
While you are at it, you can also read on the Modern Day Presentations, where you will find out the medal is awarded “upon recommendation from the chain of command”.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:12 amDea Zooey — I REST MY CASE…. I KNEW THAT YOU AND ALL THOSE OTHER NIT WIT WOMAN ON THIS BLOG WERE LESBIANS…. NO WONDER YOU DEFEND HILLARY SO VEHEMENTLY—– BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER!!!!!!
Comment by Sir Greg Nevins
Oh, you have a case against me?
Consider this my formal Request for Discovery, so that I may better prepare my defense. If you do not respond within 14 days, a Motion to Compel will be filed against you, asking the Judge for sanctions and attorney fees.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:16 am“The powerful feed ideology to the masses like fast food while they dine on that most rarefied delicacy: impunity.” – Naomi Klein
January 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amOne can only hope that Nancy-Nevins has flipping great wodges of cash (tip o’ the hat to Blackadder) available, as therapy for this sucker-puppy is gonna be pricey.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amAnd yet you chose the name of one for your thinkprogress identity, and an attorney representing lambda at that…imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, is it not?
January 14th, 2007 at 12:28 amDea Zooey — I REST MY CASE…
You first need to have a case before you can rest it
I KNEW THAT YOU AND ALL THOSE OTHER NIT WIT WOMAN ON THIS BLOG WERE LESBIANS…
You know NOTHING you A hoe
You need to have your …
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January 14th, 2007 at 12:30 amrachel b blair,
Funny.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:34 amThanks, rachel.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:42 amdid nevins slink away? if so, hope he left a trail of bread crumbs, as he’s provided a great deal of amusement this evening.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:58 amI think Nevins went up in a little poof of smoke…
Heh.
January 14th, 2007 at 1:00 ampoof of smoke…lol zooey!
January 14th, 2007 at 1:06 amI do have to admitt that I enjoy periodically reading the comments by one of the most unstable personalities I have ever had the priviledge of following on this site. The “knight” helps to entertain me in my wind down after work. In my opinion as a psych RN, the man has some serious issues that only a conservative politician can help him with. Please show your patriotism and enlist before the draft drags you off to paradise. The sooner the better you ignorant, demented fool.
January 14th, 2007 at 2:20 amPs–Don’t forget to take along your meds. Sincerely, your commander-in-chief.
January 14th, 2007 at 2:29 amcompassionate conservative? What an oxymoron! Don’t forget your meds. You have obviously missed your evening dosage.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:51 amI’ll bet you the same amount,rach.aka. PAT. LOL
January 14th, 2007 at 4:21 am“knight”, your unpatriotic attitude to big pharma is showing. 2 mg of haldol would be a good place to start, then titrate accordingly. Now, be a dutiful little soldier and go take your meds before you have a complete meltdown.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:24 am“knight”, absolutely no more DU or flouride in your drinking water. To continue your patriotic fervor to big pharma and to assist in corporate welfare, I’m sure your commander-in-chief would gladly allow you to borrow some of his meds, provided you pay him back–with interest! Now, be a dutifull compassionate conservative and take your meds.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:48 amRachel, I’m sure you are correct. BTW, I wonder what happened to my other posting. It was after your 338. Who knows? Maybe the “knight” has gone poof.
January 14th, 2007 at 6:07 amHey RMS
Blessings darling
Oh yeah I know I am right and this JTitor I will be keeping an eye on too to watch him do his magical disappearing act then troll alert pops up
The MO is so predictable it is boring
It is like him coming to a gunfight with a wet paper sack
BESIDES I GOT IT ALL ON TAPE
I MEAN I GOT IT ALL ON HARD DRIVE THE IP/NODE INFORMATION
Nice to meet you and keep the faith
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January 14th, 2007 at 6:50 amHey RMS
Blessings darling
Oh yeah I know I am right and this JTitor I will be keeping an eye on too to watch him do his magical disappearing act then troll alert pops up
The MO is so predictable it is boring
It is like him coming to a gunfight with a wet paper sack
BESIDES I GOT IT ALL ON TAPE
I MEAN I GOT IT ALL ON HARD DRIVE THE IP/NODE INFORMATION
Nice to meet you and keep the faith
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January 14th, 2007 at 7:01 amHey RMS
Blessings darling
Oh yeah I know I am right and this JTitor I will be keeping an eye on too to watch him do his magical disappearing act then troll alert pops up
The MO is so predictable it is boring
It is like him coming to a gunfight with a wet paper sack
BESIDES I GOT IT ALL ON TAPE
I MEAN I GOT IT ALL ON HARD DRIVE THE IP/NODE INFORMATION
Nice to meet you and keep the faith
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January 14th, 2007 at 7:01 amWell, I guess it was a waste of time to see if TP would do something about this immature, ignorant Sir Greg Nivens character and his ilk. Of course, I would welcome intelligent discourse and debate with any true conservatives out there, but none of us needs to waste our valuable time with right wong authoritarian followers (like Nivens and Jason M. Hendler).
Authoritarians such as these characters (I’m not completely convinced that these are real people touting their real views, so I assume that they are parodying people like themselves. No one could be that ignorant, could they?) offer nothing to the debate, because they believe that we should all do whatever the person in charge says we should do, no matter how often that person has been proven wrong. They cannot function without a leader to adore and follow. They are the core 25-30% who will (seemingly) never abandon the president, even as he’s hauled off to the World Court to face charges of crimes against humanity (of which he is responsible for many). There simply is no debating with an authoritarian.
Which brings me to my final point. (”Final” as in I don’t see myself posting here any more until the scene at TP changes.) We liberals and progressives have often viewed these recent battles as being between lilberals and conservatives. We shouldn’t. Instead, the real battle is between the libertarians and the authoritarians. I sense a lot of the liberals here are more libertarian than authoritarian, and so are some of the conservative visitors who many will consider “reasonable”. It is these people with whom we should be building support for impeachment. They, more than the authoritarians, will agree that this administration has gone way too far in its grab for executive power. And this grab for power is what we must all fight against.
Our country was not founded on the idea that the president should be allowed to do whatever he wants, regardless of what the Congress and the Courts have to say. If you disagree, then you are the enemy.
So long, TP community, and thanks for all the fish.
January 14th, 2007 at 8:35 amSir Greg Nevins = TP’s Bernard Shifman
January 14th, 2007 at 10:42 amAs usual, I make a devastating point about how the government interferring in markets by SETTING PRICES is a hallmark of both fascism and communism, and you guys create a 150 post “dust-up” with an individual I believe is a lib trying to pose as their view of a conservative.
The government cannot both regulate an industry, and then force prices on that same industry, because, as we saw in the former Soviet Union, it creates product shortages. For that very reason, the VA does NOT offer 1/10th of the drugs that Medicare Part D does, so you are trying to force everyone to be EQUALLY POORLY served.
January 14th, 2007 at 11:35 amThe government cannot both regulate an industry, and then force prices on that same industry…
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Do you even understand what you’re saying? Negotiating for lower drug prices is NOT the same thing as to “force prices” on that industry. If they were (as you often erroneously call it) “forcing” prices, then it wouldn’t be “negotiating”! Are you incapable of understanding English? And yes, not only can Congress regulate the industry, they can also negotiate with that industry on behalf of the taxpayers.
January 14th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThis will lower Medicare costs at least initially. But the problem is that it will also limit drug choice for seniors, as many newer and higher priced drugs will be excluded from Medicare. This is also just another flavor of price controls, which affect company profits and it will force them to raise prices elsewhre. Therefore, it will drive up costs for non-Medicare patients. So expect your health care costs to go up quite a bit.
Fortunately for all of us, Bush is planning on the veto of this horrible legislation.
January 14th, 2007 at 2:25 pmSo, muckdog, you think it’s more important to protect the profits of the pharmaceutical industry? Healthcare should be driven by altruism, not capitalism. Believing that market forces should determine what’s the best course of health treatment is inhuman, so I hope you’re not like that.
January 14th, 2007 at 2:29 pmYes muckdog, get off Jason’s ass, that’s Nancy-Nevin’s dream position.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:44 pmTough talk Nancy-Nevins. Of course we all know what you really like in you face, maneater!
January 14th, 2007 at 5:10 pmNancy-boy Nevins sure don’t like the ladies, does he? He just loves the men though…Hey Bugwit, is it really true you bought seven copies of “Brokeback Mountain”, one for each fantasy-fulfilling night of your week?
January 14th, 2007 at 5:23 pmquotes from the ongoing saga “Nancy-boy Nevins: How you too can spend your Sundays like I do”
“SIT WITH YOUR FINGERS UP YOUR ASS”; “ALL KINDS OF SHIT”; “YELLOW STREAKED”
January 14th, 2007 at 5:36 pmNancy-boy Nevins
Since your like to ponce in here and steal the name of a noted attorney for the gay/bisexual/transgender avocacy group LAMBDA, one considers it likely that your “wife” is a former or current client.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:44 pmAnti-depressants? Me? Not at all! I am having a great deal of fun and amusement here at your expense, Nancy-boy Nevins. Someone obviously requested “Send in the Clowns” and you answered the call. Do continue.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:50 pm“…WHILE BILL IS OUT GETTING A BJ’S FROM OTHER WOMEN”
At last you get down to the subject nearest and dearest to your heart; that deep dark desire to be a Monica Lewinsky stunt-double. A breakthrough! Your path to acceptance of yourself has begun!
January 14th, 2007 at 5:55 pmHow can you seriously demand to be called “SIR” when you live to take it up the shute and in the mouth? You’re the biatch, Nancy-boy Nevins!
January 14th, 2007 at 6:01 pm“ANYONE WITH HALF A BRAIN”; “IDIOTIC POSTINGS”; “VERY DEEPLY DISTURBED”
Yes! you are gaining valuable lessons about yourself. Don’t falter, keep moving forward! Most encouraging! More introspection, and yes, you must indeed “SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP”, as I am just a talented and insightful student of human nature.
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