Will Bush make a climate U-turn?
Senior British officials say Bush “is preparing to make a historic shift in his position on global warming when he makes his State of the Union speech later this month.”
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Bush is full of s**t, whatever he says won’t mean anything. He and his thugs will continue to favor the fossil fuel industry every way possible.
January 14th, 2007 at 2:57 pmGDumbya is apparently ready to declare “War on Global Warming”. You know what that means — it won’t be long before he decides to invade the Sun which is, of course, the “axis of warming”.
What more would you expect from this bozo –> http://thumbsnap.com/v/6YvXAPG0.jpg
January 14th, 2007 at 3:04 pmYep, it’ll be more of the same, while SAYING (only) that they will change their policy to throw the people a bone so that they can get their way on the escalation in Iraq.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:05 pmWords mean NOTHING to this prick.
But if he could help change so many dumbasses minds, why not?
January 14th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI’m suspicious, as we all should be. I find it hard to believe that he has done a complete 180 on global warming. It is undeniable that he has lied to us before, and his credibility with people in the three-digit-IQ club vanished long ago. I have to wonder what the catch is. Are his CO2 caps going to be so incredibly high that even a business doing nothing but burning two tons of tires all day wouldn’t exceed them? (In other words, pointless.)
People have been known to do the right thing but for the wrong reasons. I need to know why he is changing his policy, or even IF he is really changing his policy, or just saying that he’s changing them. Sorry, George, but I just do not have even a single reason to believe a word out of your mouth. And that’s nobody’s fault but your own.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:11 pmWho would believe anything he says. He is totally dishonest.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:16 pmIf his words indicate a reversal in his position on the environment, rest assured there is something in it for him and his friends, and that is his motivation. The man can’t do anything with a personal reward or gain.
word is nothing BUT it makes republicans look very good ………Hes an arsehole and should have done this years ago not just because congress are gonna do it anyway
January 14th, 2007 at 3:17 pmMarie,
I see that you possess the correct level of skepticism about statements from this administration. I’m curious as to why this was found in a British newspaper and not an American one. Did they only leak this to the foreign press?
January 14th, 2007 at 3:19 pmIran and Venezuala are cutting back on Oil production and talked OPEC into that ……… No Oil from Iraq
what choice does he have ??????
January 14th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThe only shift in Bush’s global warming stance will come from between his butt cheeks during the State of the Union address.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:21 pmare you kidding me, Bush favoring we the people.
- he corrupted enron
- he rolled back pollution control in texas, most pollution in the nation
- healthy forests, yeh right… corrupted whatever that us agency is
- corrupted epa bigtime
- laxed coal burning pollution control at least until 2015
- lie after lie after lie
- he has done everything possible to favor polluters.
AND NOW his crooked appointees are resigning right through the
revolving door to the private sector they were suppose to protect
us from AFTER those laws were weakened.
is there one bit of truth to Bush at all…. there sure is —-
CORRUPT… big time, THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER
and at the rate he’s going his ratings will be in the teens, their
already at 28% =
72% totally corrupted + disgust of the american people
28% i guess what remains are air heads who believe the industry
paid “experts” … ya according to the “experts”
the experts who once was a appointee of the epa but now that
expert is with monsanto, for that public utility, or exxon, or whoever
ABSOLUTELY… corruption is a reality
oh ya…. he serves the people all right, all the wonderful service
we the people get & guess where the resolution will be… that’s
right 10 - 20 - 30 years down the road in court… stall… stall… stall
just look at superfund, how many of those sites were cleaned up
in the 1980’s
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January 14th, 2007 at 3:22 pmO
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BUSH HAS NO CHOICE - OIL WILL BE EXOENSIVE TA AMERICA SOON , IRAN AND CHAVEZ ARE DROPPING PRODUCTION AND OPEC HIKING PCICES and Iraq is below
IRAQI militants are taking most of the $US1.5 billion ($1.92 billion) a year that’s stolen from Iraq’s main oil refinery through smuggling and corruption, the government told parliament today.
January 14th, 2007 at 3:24 pmunless you completely believe all the propaganda, it is a fact
that bush has deceived and lied repeatily. challanged the
constitution 100’s of times.
i agree, someone has the right to change their mind, but this is
not bushs history at all… he says one thing (like pollution control
is voluntary compliance) while touting “healthy forests or whatever
the deceptive program name for epa….. numerous LIES
oh and all arm twisting at 200am 109th congress votes
NO NO NO…… bush 180 degree change is SNAKE OIL!!!!!!!!!
January 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pmWell, apparently Chimpy isn’t a reader of Think Progress, or else he would have seen Jason M. Hendler’s brilliant ‘urban heat islands’ explanation of global climate change, obviating his need to change his stance on the issue.
(I almost managed to type that entire sentence without laughing aloud.)
Upon further reflection, perhaps it’s fortunate Chimpy hasn’t been exposed to Jason’s ‘urban heat islands’ claptrap…otherwise, he just might declare ‘War on Cities’. ^_^
January 14th, 2007 at 3:29 pmTMM, I got as far as “Jason M. Hendler’s brilliant” before I laughed! Yes, those famous “urban heat islands” at the North and South Poles!
January 14th, 2007 at 4:00 pmTotal lies/denials regarding a healthy environment and a decrease in petroleum products use. I have heated my house by burning wood that I have cut by hand off my own property for years. When he realizes that others do the same, a carbon credit tax is in the making. I am proud to say I never voted for Bush I or II for govenor of the state of Texas either election. I am equally proud to state that I did not vote for the thieves for president either. I don’t know how much of that news flash to believe. Read my lips, I do strongly feel that it is not realistic to place too much faith in a corrupt individual that says one thing and then turn around to do the exact opposite.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:12 pmSo - would that be a flip-flop then? He was against global warming before he was for it? Or is the flip-flop only reserved for Democrats, whereas the GOP can change their minds and it is called an historic shift?
January 14th, 2007 at 4:15 pmTypical hypocritical GOP and the equally hypocritical mainstream media.
KQ sez:
No, no…the GOP never actually change their minds, they merely ‘clarify their positions’ so it is obvious that they’ve always held that view, despite massive evidence to the contrary.
In related news, Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pmcarbon tax, guess who’s going to pay for that. we already pay 50%
or more in taxes for all the wonderful services we all desperately need.
there’s only one problem, the average person cannot get service at all,
only the Rich.
just think 50% paid in taxes, we should literally have world class healthcare
thrown in, instead healthcare in this country is a disgrace and TOTALLY
corrupted which of course will be the outcome of the carbon tax too.
oh ya they serve the people all right like lining pockets of pharm companies
and producing a economy favoring disease instead of education and healthcare to prevent it… ALL corrupted and all for the absolute “elite”
and sacred congress/lobbyists/c.e.o.’s.
that carbon tax will be all wasted. lucky if we get 5 cents out of $1… all
January 14th, 2007 at 4:29 pmthe rest will be just icing on the cake for the rich and if lucky 5 cents will
produce any results, if even
If Bush starts to believe in global warming, I might just stop believing out of spite.
In all seriousness, I wouldn’t be suprised if he did. He’s looking to up his approval. What he’s too dumb to realize is that it’s not global warming that’s the number one issue, it’s Iraq. Well, Bush is a notorious dumb dumb.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:37 pm“urban heat islands†… a crichten “theory”, right?…
January 14th, 2007 at 4:39 pmjust wait till his next book, NEXT, get into the wingers’ philosophy…
stem cell research will take another hit…
he uses just enough of a true story and a few facts to enrich his fiction into a plausible story… like most good fiction authors…
TripMaster Monkey @18 - thanks for the clarification. : )
January 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pmDidn’t Bush state that he was going to encourage renewable energy sources such as switch grass at his last SOU speech (2006)? These addresses are nothing more than hot air coming from the frat boy… adding to the global warming with his blah blah blah bullsh*t.
January 14th, 2007 at 4:45 pm“healthy forests program” = a boon to the logging industry…
“clear skies initiative” = clear the skies of firds (franken)…
…what else? … it’s another opposite day in bushco world…
can’t believe a word they say…
January 14th, 2007 at 4:59 pmThis issue about climate change policy shift has been already denied:
http://today.reuters.com/ news/ articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2007-01-14T191808Z_01_N14363782_RTRUKOC_0_US-BUSH-CLIMATE.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C2-TopNews-newsOne-7
January 14th, 2007 at 5:12 pmAnd Abigail Kimbell will be on hand when he makes his announcement - his new appointee to the US Forestry Service, known for her affection for the loggig industry?
No thinking person could believe Bush any more - not in the USA nor in the world. He’s worthless, useless and needs to be removed from office.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:19 pmLegacy polishing….
January 14th, 2007 at 5:19 pmclear the skies of firds
Comment by katy
What’s a ‘fird’ ?
January 14th, 2007 at 5:26 pmDo they even belong in the sky?
Zoo, you can’t polish a turd.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:27 pmyea - don’t you know about blying firds??? jeesh!
January 14th, 2007 at 5:31 pm“zooey” - give up on the identity change?
in high school i wanted to be different, so i changed my name to “katie”… managed to confuse all my relatives, nothing else though…
heh…
i’ve been looking to see if the mysterious zelda would show up…
January 14th, 2007 at 5:36 pm#8 Wayne
January 14th, 2007 at 5:37 pmI do not see this posted on any on line news site except the British. Curious. Perhaps the White House is waiting for the outcry following last week’s speech to die down, so they can fully capitalize on something “positive.”
I don’t think the American public will buy it ( at least I hope not).
LISTEN….
the only thing i’ve heard from bush since 2003 is terrorist. cheney and
him, almost every single morning, they cannot shake it, the only thing
in truth about bush is talking about terrorists
and the rest are lies……….
- healthy forrests
- healthy clear skies
because the truth is enron and mecury and 2015 and negating on kyoto
and if that wasn’t enough all his appointees are totally incompentent and
are hitting the revolving door
THERE IS ONLY ONE TRUTH TO BUSH AND THAT IS CORRUPT POSSIBLY
WORSE THAN NIXON
and do you wonder why his rating continue to fall and he doesn’t care
about serving the average person either
how can anyone respect a warlord or madsman as he’s constantly
referred to… he is well known to intentionally deceive and that will
be his policy on global warming too.
now….. SHOW ME THE MONEY and of course things will be different
enough to make me **** !! :)
January 14th, 2007 at 5:38 pmOh boy oh boy, what’s Bush gonna do? I didn’t read the link. Me lazy.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:42 pmMe lazy.
Comment by ForTruth — January 14, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
well, good thing for you he makes that easy…
January 14th, 2007 at 5:45 pmjust remember - it’s always opposite day… got it?…
Marie, Wayne went home, but I’ll tell him what you said.
You’re right, the American public won’t buy it, only the-what is it now- 25%ers(?) will believe anything out of Bush’s mouth.
Jimbo, I don’t think there’s any question at this point that Bush is worse than Nixon. I think that Bush, with his far-reaching family/business connections, not to mention his own psychological problems, poses a much greater threat to our country and the entire planet.
I’m heading home now, too. Tomorrow’s another day.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:47 pmThis is good. Any information from any source supporting the idea of global warming and encouraging action to combat it - any type of action - wakes people up to what is happening.
I don’t care how twisted the motives are at this point.
Maybe Bush will reach the 30% that Gore can’t reach. Everybody needs to be on board for this. Screw the war on terrorism. The real terror to war upon is global warming.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:49 pmHe just removed a ban on drilling in the Bearing Sea. Petro boy isn’t going to do anything on global warming beside stall.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:51 pmZoo, you can’t polish a turd.
Comment by JaneESchneider
Jane, I wouldn’t even try, but GWB keeping rubbing…
January 14th, 2007 at 5:53 pm“zooey†- give up on the identity change?
i’ve been looking to see if the mysterious zelda would show up…
Comment by katy
I tried, katy, but TP blocked me for a day and half, until it occurred to me to change back. So annoying. Maybe when TP gets it’s shit together, Zelda will take a test run. :)
January 14th, 2007 at 5:55 pmYeah, and he promised a major effort to promote R&D on alternative fuels.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHOWS that going for ya WarCriminal?
Do over!
Jane, I wouldn’t even try, but GWB keeping rubbing…
Comment by Zooey — January 14, 2007 @ 5:53 pm
Jane, I wouldn’t even try, but GWB {keeps] rubbing…
Oy.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:56 pmZelda? As in Dobie’s hearthrob wannabe?
January 14th, 2007 at 5:57 pmUPDATE: Check out the news, Bush admin. officials debunked this rumor as flat out untrue.
Very sadly for our world, Bush hasn’t changed his mind.
January 14th, 2007 at 5:59 pmZelda? As in Dobie’s hearthrob wannabe?
Comment by RUCerious
A little before my time, RUCerious!
I’m not sure what katy was referring to when she recommended the name, but I think of “The Legend of Zelda.” The video game. I’m such a princess…
January 14th, 2007 at 6:08 pmZelda? As in Dobie’s hearthrob wannabe?
Comment by RUCerious — January 14, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
oh wow! … i’d forgotten about her! … boy, are you ever dating yourself! (me too… heh)
January 14th, 2007 at 6:10 pmi think it was more along the “legend of” line…
I’m not sure what katy was referring to…
Comment by Zooey — January 14, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
actually, i was thinking of a neighbor lady… kinda crazy, but sweet… heh…
i’m not a gamer, so i admit that the legend of” didn’t come to me until you said “a legend in her own mind” (or something like that)…
January 14th, 2007 at 6:17 pmactually, i was thinking of a neighbor lady… kinda crazy, but sweet… heh…
Yep, that sounds like me. Ask anyone…
i’m not a gamer, so i admit that the legend of†didn’t come to me until you said “a legend in her own mind†(or something like that)…
Comment by katy
My eldest used to love that game, so that’s why it popped into my mind first.
January 14th, 2007 at 6:22 pmwell, dan, they’re not trying very hard to deny that story… i went to google news a searched for it - most hits were to this similar story, except for this link:
U.S. denies British rumors on Bush climate change
January 14th, 2007 at 6:23 pmJan 14, 2007 — WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. official on Sunday denied a British newspaper report that President George W. Bush was preparing to announce a dramatic policy shift on global warming in his State of the Union speech this month.
…
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2794406
…
zooey - you say you were off-board for a while… know what happened?
January 14th, 2007 at 6:35 pmi haven’t been here since thursday night… my daughter was home for the weekend and we did girlie stuff… including a bottle of wine… uoy…
listen i’ve heard about all the comments bush is a compulsive liar,
he’s a madman, he doesn’t care, he does care.
what amazes me is during his speech to american, he’s just so
calm, other times he’s a hot head.
the only way he’s tranquilizing himself is with tranquilizers and undoubtfully he’s probably on multiple prescription drugs.
and there’s no way a person could possibly have a concious or slip lies and
not even care….. that guy is definitely dealing with issues with pills…
that might explain the lack of conciousness, lies… oh how bout the
corruption…. NOW THAT IS THE REAL BUSH.
if this guy ever does shake all those prescription drugs i’m guessing there’s
January 14th, 2007 at 6:42 pmlots of cob webs, but who cares, just pop a another pill… WORST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
zooey - you say you were off-board for a while… know what happened?
I had changed my name to “Zoo,” and I guess TP didn’t like it, because I couldn’t get my comments to show up for a day and half.
i haven’t been here since thursday night… my daughter was home for the weekend and we did girlie stuff… including a bottle of wine… uoy…
Comment by katy
Sounds fun! I try to do girlie stuff with my sons, but it never goes well. :)
January 14th, 2007 at 6:57 pmDumbya (or more likely, Rove) thinks by appearing to acknowledge the existence of global warming, that the Democrats will delay any action while they wait nicely to se what the administration will do. By doing this, they will play directly into Rove’s hands, wasting time and energy on another distraction with no substance.
Congress, as someone noted in an earlier thread, does not comprehend that this has stopped being about progressive vs conservative, or Dem vs Rethug, or whatever other political struggle they envision. This is now about George W. Bush vs the United States. I don’t think Congress can re-align their thinking from election politics to the reality of a constitutional crisis.
I will be in DC on the 27th. Please join us.
January 14th, 2007 at 7:02 pmThe words that come out of Bush’s mouth mean absolutely nothing.
January 14th, 2007 at 7:13 pmHeard late one night after 3 Bourbon and waters and 5 Zoloft:
Hey, uh, Dubya? Yeah, I ‘m tired of you dicking around with my planet. Unless you want Laura & the twins to burn eternally in Purgatory, you gotta renounce your opposition to climate change science. Oh- and Cheney is the Devil.
January 14th, 2007 at 7:14 pmSure, Bush is going to stop global warming by destroying the earth with nuclear weapons before it gets too hot.
Don’t you worry your little heads about it. He’s not.
January 14th, 2007 at 7:16 pmComment by Paul in LA — January 14, 2007 @ 7:16 pm
Actually, that’s not that far-fetched. He just wouldn’t think of it as a solution to global warming. More likely he sees nuclear warfare as a necessary precursor to Armageddon.
January 14th, 2007 at 7:22 pmDubbie is gay and retarded - a first for the American Presidency. Flip-floppin’ like a goddamned carp on the riverbank……..what a piece of work.
January 14th, 2007 at 8:50 pm#52 Zooey. (Sorry OT)
January 14th, 2007 at 9:40 pmThat IS a slight problem with sons, of which I have three, whom I love dearly. However, I am an endless source of amusement to them. :)
It was great raising sons, I think a little easier than girls in some ways, but now that everyone is grown up, I don’t have anyone to share “girlie” stuff.
My boys claim that I am not very “girlie” anyway, because of being their mother, but a girl (young woman) around would be pretty nice about now.
marie - i just had to respond!
January 14th, 2007 at 10:06 pmi agree that raising boys might be easier… though i had only one… and the one girl… he is 5 years older… but the growing up years were by far easier with the boy…
now, though, as he has cut loose (and living in california), i really enjoy being girlie with my daughter… i was never a girlie-girl myself, and mostly hung out with the boys then guys… until these days, and my daughter is now a young woman and she has brought out the “girlie” in me…
funny how things go around like that…
.
My boys claim that I am not very “girlie†anyway, because of being their mother, but a girl (young woman) around would be pretty nice about now.
Comment by Marie
I’m not sure I would have survived three boys! I think my sons forget I’m a woman sometimes. One of my sisters sends me a little package of “girlie stuff” once in a while, because she thinks I need a reminder. She’s probably right!
I’m looking forward to a daughter-in-law one of these years. It’s not looking good right now, since Zoo Jr’s best friend at school is a lesbian. He says he’s a “dyke tyke.” That’s a new one…
January 14th, 2007 at 10:13 pmYes, katy, we agree. :)
I watched the chimp-in-chief on 60 minutes and he is stomach-turning. Arrogant. Defiant. Liar.
January 14th, 2007 at 10:16 pmAll the fears and trepidation I had when he was first (s)elected in 2000 have been realized and magnified 1,000 times.
He has to go.
…my daughter is now a young woman and she has brought out the “girlie†in me…
funny how things go around like that…
Comment by katy
Didn’t we all like our mom better after we’d been away from her for a while? I know I did.
January 14th, 2007 at 10:17 pmZooey,
January 14th, 2007 at 10:19 pmRemember this if your son marries– you will be the “mother-in-law.”
Just saying….. :)
Remember this if your son marries– you will be the “mother-in-law.â€
Just saying….. :)
Comment by Marie
She’ll love me. I know how to mind my own business.
I hope…. :}
January 14th, 2007 at 10:47 pmi tremble at the thought of what this could mean, historic shift ? from this egomaniac it cant be anything good
January 14th, 2007 at 10:49 pmWhen Gw failed to order the guarding of Al Qa-qaa he committed an act of gross criminal negligence by arming the insurgency that would fight our troops with 380 metric tons of IED-making high-explosives.
There is NO comparable example from U.S. military history of which I am aware. The closest I can think of is Benedict Arnold trying to sell West Point to the British (King) during the Revolution.
So, don’t pull out your hair over the shock of having a traitor in power — FIGHT BACK, and fight back in terms of the consequences of such an act — and not in the day-by-day reaction machine he wants us to remain.
We MUST demand justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice, justice…
…and stop acting like this is ‘politics.’ Politics do not allow treason or gross criminal negligence. I –SO– wish people would stop acting like this is politics as usual, or like they have to remain somehow ‘civil.’ Remain nonviolent, and DEMAND JUSTICE!
January 14th, 2007 at 11:02 pmBush is an insecure man with many fears. So, if he has now convinced himself that global warming is happening, and he has listened to those who know it is happening, it scares him. When he is scared he acts.
January 15th, 2007 at 1:38 pm