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		<title>By: JTitor</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1479120</link>
		<dc:creator>JTitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ALL THE GUILTYS COME RIGHT BACK HERE TO DEFEND AGAINST IT
RIGHT ZOOEY ?
RIGHT ROBERT ?
RIGHT TRUEBLUE ?
RIGHT UNBELIEVABLE ?
Comment by careful now â€” January 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm


Hey &quot;rachel b&quot;, &quot;rachel b blair&quot;, &quot;careful now&quot;, &quot;porcupiny&quot; how many names do you use? Who pays you to disrupt this site? You say that Zooey and others are in some way complicit at hacking this site and some how redirect post somewhere else? If you have proof how did they do it? DNS injection? ARP poisoning? Man-in-the-middle attack? Zero day exploit? Explain to all of us how this supposedly was perpetrated. This is the third thread I have seen you use a different name to try and make zooey and others look bad regarding this. The reason I know its you, because of your syntax. Robert was probably you as well. I seen the comment he made and it doesn&#039;t flow in sentence form, instead it&#039;s choppy line by line.

Anyway, I&#039;m in contact with parent company of TP, because I take allegations of IP hijacking very seriously. We will get to the bottom of this and I hope it&#039;s a hoax, but won&#039;t know until it&#039;s investigated. 

Even if your using an anonymous server or proxy to hide your IP thatâ€™s only good for the first time, because a pattern can be done to match the logs of this server to the down stream routers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ALL THE GUILTYS COME RIGHT BACK HERE TO DEFEND AGAINST IT<br />
RIGHT ZOOEY ?<br />
RIGHT ROBERT ?<br />
RIGHT TRUEBLUE ?<br />
RIGHT UNBELIEVABLE ?<br />
Comment by careful now â€” January 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm</p>
<p>Hey &#8220;rachel b&#8221;, &#8220;rachel b blair&#8221;, &#8220;careful now&#8221;, &#8220;porcupiny&#8221; how many names do you use? Who pays you to disrupt this site? You say that Zooey and others are in some way complicit at hacking this site and some how redirect post somewhere else? If you have proof how did they do it? DNS injection? ARP poisoning? Man-in-the-middle attack? Zero day exploit? Explain to all of us how this supposedly was perpetrated. This is the third thread I have seen you use a different name to try and make zooey and others look bad regarding this. The reason I know its you, because of your syntax. Robert was probably you as well. I seen the comment he made and it doesn&#8217;t flow in sentence form, instead it&#8217;s choppy line by line.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m in contact with parent company of TP, because I take allegations of IP hijacking very seriously. We will get to the bottom of this and I hope it&#8217;s a hoax, but won&#8217;t know until it&#8217;s investigated. </p>
<p>Even if your using an anonymous server or proxy to hide your IP thatâ€™s only good for the first time, because a pattern can be done to match the logs of this server to the down stream routers&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1479120', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JTitor</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1479105</link>
		<dc:creator>JTitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 02:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>86. &lt;blockquote&gt;The democrats vs. republicans argument is used by the elites to keep you distracted from what theyâ€™re doing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


But they just keep on arguing....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>86.<br />
<blockquote>The democrats vs. republicans argument is used by the elites to keep you distracted from what theyâ€™re doing.</p></blockquote>
<p>But they just keep on arguing&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1479105', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1477430</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Infidel - I&#039;ll be happy to bash Christianity as much as you want.  It&#039;s no less sane than any other ridiculous ideology based on superstition and emotions with zero facts or proof.  All religions are dangerous in the way they teach their followers to be sheep.

For the record, read any one of the Bibles (last count there were 32 versions in print) - it tells Christians to kill non-believers.  And if you don&#039;t realize how Bush&#039;s war on Iraq is exactly that, then you are blinded by your own blind faith.  

Feel better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Infidel &#8211; I&#8217;ll be happy to bash Christianity as much as you want.  It&#8217;s no less sane than any other ridiculous ideology based on superstition and emotions with zero facts or proof.  All religions are dangerous in the way they teach their followers to be sheep.</p>
<p>For the record, read any one of the Bibles (last count there were 32 versions in print) &#8211; it tells Christians to kill non-believers.  And if you don&#8217;t realize how Bush&#8217;s war on Iraq is exactly that, then you are blinded by your own blind faith.  </p>
<p>Feel better?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477430', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Infidel</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1474895</link>
		<dc:creator>Infidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, someone got it right.  The crazy left, yeah, you moonbats are to blame.  I see all the christian bashing posts, yet where are the posts bashing the muslim religion?  I have yet to hear a christian minister call for the killing of all homosexuals.  Homosexuals are stoned to death by other religions.  I have yet to hear any christian minister call for the death of all muslims because they do not believe.  We are all targeted for death because we are &quot;non belivers&quot;.  

We are at war with people that want us all dead.  As a conservative, I hope that the democrats win in 2 years.  That way the whole country will be onboard with the war on terror, not just the correct half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, someone got it right.  The crazy left, yeah, you moonbats are to blame.  I see all the christian bashing posts, yet where are the posts bashing the muslim religion?  I have yet to hear a christian minister call for the killing of all homosexuals.  Homosexuals are stoned to death by other religions.  I have yet to hear any christian minister call for the death of all muslims because they do not believe.  We are all targeted for death because we are &#8220;non belivers&#8221;.  </p>
<p>We are at war with people that want us all dead.  As a conservative, I hope that the democrats win in 2 years.  That way the whole country will be onboard with the war on terror, not just the correct half.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1474895', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1472475</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ALL THE GUILTYS COME RIGHT BACK HERE TO DEFEND AGAINST IT
RIGHT ZOOEY ?
RIGHT ROBERT ?
RIGHT TRUEBLUE ?
RIGHT UNBELIEVABLE ? 
Comment by careful now â€” January 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm&lt;/em&gt;

First of all, I have a job and a life.  I don&#039;t live here.  I come often, but do have other things to do.  Therefore expecting me to read and responde to every post immediately is irrational.

Secondly, accusing people of crap that isn&#039;t true is slander.  Proof?  One of the people with whom you accuse me of conspiring is not someone I like or who likes me.  In fact we can&#039;t stand one another.   Much less conspire.

Thirdly, behaving this way won&#039;t gain you friends.  In fact, you&#039;re assuring that people will snub you and not read your posts.  The way to get friendship is by giving friendship.  You&#039;re on the wrong trail.

And lastly, please find a good therapist.  For your own sake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ALL THE GUILTYS COME RIGHT BACK HERE TO DEFEND AGAINST IT<br />
RIGHT ZOOEY ?<br />
RIGHT ROBERT ?<br />
RIGHT TRUEBLUE ?<br />
RIGHT UNBELIEVABLE ?<br />
Comment by careful now â€” January 16, 2007 @ 9:40 pm</em></p>
<p>First of all, I have a job and a life.  I don&#8217;t live here.  I come often, but do have other things to do.  Therefore expecting me to read and responde to every post immediately is irrational.</p>
<p>Secondly, accusing people of crap that isn&#8217;t true is slander.  Proof?  One of the people with whom you accuse me of conspiring is not someone I like or who likes me.  In fact we can&#8217;t stand one another.   Much less conspire.</p>
<p>Thirdly, behaving this way won&#8217;t gain you friends.  In fact, you&#8217;re assuring that people will snub you and not read your posts.  The way to get friendship is by giving friendship.  You&#8217;re on the wrong trail.</p>
<p>And lastly, please find a good therapist.  For your own sake.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1472475', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1472448</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 00:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;It is a site that purposely omits historical information that undermines the point it is trying to make. &lt;/em&gt;

&#039;I don&#039;t know&#039; isn&#039;t an omission.  An omission would be it not being there.

Stop spinning Exley.

&lt;em&gt;It is a site that has an agenda and then attempts to fit the facts to support a conclusion it has already made. &lt;/em&gt;

No.  They said &quot;Here&#039;s our list - but don&#039;t just believe us - find your own evidence.&quot;  People with integrity don&#039;t say that.

&lt;em&gt;This is evidenced by the fact that in discussing the Korean War it purposely omits information about the communist North Korean invasion of South Korea in 1950 and the fact that the military action on the Korean peninsula in 1950-53 was a United Nations operation. &lt;/em&gt;

It was omitted.  You are either being intentionally dense here to annoy me, or you are not getting the fact that it is YOU who is in serious denial and trying desperately to rationalize your criticism of Juan with a lot of inconsequential nonsense when you obviously don&#039;t have facts to refute him with...

&lt;em&gt;Indeed, the Korean War example goes to root of the flaw in the Web site Unbelievable passed along. It provides no historical context. &lt;/em&gt;

Sadly, it makes the benefit of the doubt that you and others learned that part in high school World History...

&lt;em&gt;It makes no reference to the larger global conflict that was taking place between 1945 and 1990; namely, the Cold War between the United States and the West and the communnist bloc led by the USSR. &lt;/em&gt;

Again, it can&#039;t give you the entire history of the world.  It left it up to you to become educated first.  Tall order, I see...

&lt;em&gt;The vast majority of the military actions listed on the site are directly related to the Cold War, such as U.S. aid to Greece anti-communists after World War II during the Greek Civil War, the aid to the Nicaraguan freedom fighters that ultimately defeat the communist Sandinista dictatorship, aid to the democratically elected government of Jose Napoleon Duarte in El Salvador to defeat the communist insurrection, etc.&lt;/em&gt;

Exley, this still has NOTHING to do with you PROVING your claims.

&lt;em&gt;As we know, as a result of the U.S.â€™s actions against the communist bloc and the Soviet Union in those and other theaters ultimately led to communismâ€™s defeat and freedom for millions of people who lived under communist oppression for since the early 20th century. &lt;/em&gt;

Exley - this is your OPINION.  I haven&#039;t seen you post one single FACT to defend your cliam that the US military actions have all been for National Defense.

Prove we were threatened by the Phillipines, Laos, Nicaragua, Iraq, etc.  PROVE IT.

&lt;em&gt;So, yes, Unbelievable, the vast majority, if not all of the post-World War II military actions were justified and, thankfully, ultimately successful. And the result was the defeat of communism, the most murderous, oppressive ideology in world history and subsequent freedom for millions of people. 
Comment by Exley â€” January 16, 2007 @ 10:06 pm&lt;/em&gt;

&quot;Give me PROOF&quot; isn&#039;t a &#039;yes or no&#039; question...

Any chance you&#039;ll get that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>It is a site that purposely omits historical information that undermines the point it is trying to make. </em></p>
<p>&#8216;I don&#8217;t know&#8217; isn&#8217;t an omission.  An omission would be it not being there.</p>
<p>Stop spinning Exley.</p>
<p><em>It is a site that has an agenda and then attempts to fit the facts to support a conclusion it has already made. </em></p>
<p>No.  They said &#8220;Here&#8217;s our list &#8211; but don&#8217;t just believe us &#8211; find your own evidence.&#8221;  People with integrity don&#8217;t say that.</p>
<p><em>This is evidenced by the fact that in discussing the Korean War it purposely omits information about the communist North Korean invasion of South Korea in 1950 and the fact that the military action on the Korean peninsula in 1950-53 was a United Nations operation. </em></p>
<p>It was omitted.  You are either being intentionally dense here to annoy me, or you are not getting the fact that it is YOU who is in serious denial and trying desperately to rationalize your criticism of Juan with a lot of inconsequential nonsense when you obviously don&#8217;t have facts to refute him with&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Indeed, the Korean War example goes to root of the flaw in the Web site Unbelievable passed along. It provides no historical context. </em></p>
<p>Sadly, it makes the benefit of the doubt that you and others learned that part in high school World History&#8230;</p>
<p><em>It makes no reference to the larger global conflict that was taking place between 1945 and 1990; namely, the Cold War between the United States and the West and the communnist bloc led by the USSR. </em></p>
<p>Again, it can&#8217;t give you the entire history of the world.  It left it up to you to become educated first.  Tall order, I see&#8230;</p>
<p><em>The vast majority of the military actions listed on the site are directly related to the Cold War, such as U.S. aid to Greece anti-communists after World War II during the Greek Civil War, the aid to the Nicaraguan freedom fighters that ultimately defeat the communist Sandinista dictatorship, aid to the democratically elected government of Jose Napoleon Duarte in El Salvador to defeat the communist insurrection, etc.</em></p>
<p>Exley, this still has NOTHING to do with you PROVING your claims.</p>
<p><em>As we know, as a result of the U.S.â€™s actions against the communist bloc and the Soviet Union in those and other theaters ultimately led to communismâ€™s defeat and freedom for millions of people who lived under communist oppression for since the early 20th century. </em></p>
<p>Exley &#8211; this is your OPINION.  I haven&#8217;t seen you post one single FACT to defend your cliam that the US military actions have all been for National Defense.</p>
<p>Prove we were threatened by the Phillipines, Laos, Nicaragua, Iraq, etc.  PROVE IT.</p>
<p><em>So, yes, Unbelievable, the vast majority, if not all of the post-World War II military actions were justified and, thankfully, ultimately successful. And the result was the defeat of communism, the most murderous, oppressive ideology in world history and subsequent freedom for millions of people.<br />
Comment by Exley â€” January 16, 2007 @ 10:06 pm</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Give me PROOF&#8221; isn&#8217;t a &#8216;yes or no&#8217; question&#8230;</p>
<p>Any chance you&#8217;ll get that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1472448', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: indicatoto101</title>
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		<dc:creator>indicatoto101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 21:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He makes sense.  That&#039;s why 9/11 happened in France and other western European countries with its proud display of sexuality in the media.  That&#039;s why the Netherlands were bombed by the Muslim community because they were gratuitously selling gay marriage to the world.  Sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He makes sense.  That&#8217;s why 9/11 happened in France and other western European countries with its proud display of sexuality in the media.  That&#8217;s why the Netherlands were bombed by the Muslim community because they were gratuitously selling gay marriage to the world.  Sure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1471716', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TripMaster Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>TripMaster Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>criticalthinker sez:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;em&gt;Me thinks â€œThink Progressâ€ is not for â€œcritical thinkingâ€ when the subject is 9-11, judging by my disappearing post!&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yup...TP has forbidden any discussion of the events of 9/11, on the grounds that such discussions tend to &#039;hijack threads&#039;.

It&#039;s difficult enough discussing the general state of this country and the world without discussing 9/11...as I&#039;ve said before numerous times, it&#039;s like trying to discuss the fate of the Titanic without mentioning &lt;i&gt;icebergs&lt;/i&gt;.  But when you have a &lt;i&gt;topic&lt;/i&gt; that involves 9/11, then trying to tiptoe around the issue becomes just plain ludicrous.

Nevertheless, TP continues to &#039;disappear&#039; any posts that reference 9/11 Truth (especially posts with links to corroborating evidence), while allowing posts that cleave to the Official Version of Events and attack and ridicule 9/11 Truth to stand unchallenged.

It&#039;s selective, unbalanced censorship, and it&#039;s intellectually and morally dishonest.  If TP was concerned about 9/11 posts hijacking the thread, they&#039;d deal with all posts on the topic in the same manner.  But that&#039;s not what they&#039;re concerned about. 

So what &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; they concerned about?  Try to submit posts regarding Zionism or AIPAC, and you&#039;ll see them disappear just as quickly as 9/11 Truth posts.  What does &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; tell you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>criticalthinker sez:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>Me thinks â€œThink Progressâ€ is not for â€œcritical thinkingâ€ when the subject is 9-11, judging by my disappearing post!</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Yup&#8230;TP has forbidden any discussion of the events of 9/11, on the grounds that such discussions tend to &#8216;hijack threads&#8217;.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult enough discussing the general state of this country and the world without discussing 9/11&#8230;as I&#8217;ve said before numerous times, it&#8217;s like trying to discuss the fate of the Titanic without mentioning <i>icebergs</i>.  But when you have a <i>topic</i> that involves 9/11, then trying to tiptoe around the issue becomes just plain ludicrous.</p>
<p>Nevertheless, TP continues to &#8216;disappear&#8217; any posts that reference 9/11 Truth (especially posts with links to corroborating evidence), while allowing posts that cleave to the Official Version of Events and attack and ridicule 9/11 Truth to stand unchallenged.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s selective, unbalanced censorship, and it&#8217;s intellectually and morally dishonest.  If TP was concerned about 9/11 posts hijacking the thread, they&#8217;d deal with all posts on the topic in the same manner.  But that&#8217;s not what they&#8217;re concerned about. </p>
<p>So what <i>are</i> they concerned about?  Try to submit posts regarding Zionism or AIPAC, and you&#8217;ll see them disappear just as quickly as 9/11 Truth posts.  What does <i>that</i> tell you?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1471474', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: criticalthinker</title>
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		<dc:creator>criticalthinker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me thinks &quot;Think Progress&quot; is not for &quot;critical thinking&quot; when the subject is 9-11, judging by my disappearing post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me thinks &#8220;Think Progress&#8221; is not for &#8220;critical thinking&#8221; when the subject is 9-11, judging by my disappearing post!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1471331', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator>oscar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 20:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you been on extended trip to the space station? They have been attacking other Western Nations and it is because of our collective values or lack of.&lt;/em&gt;

Whoa, michael, as a european I most strongly protest the idea of &quot;our collective values&quot;.
Man, I&#039;m so glad I don&#039;t live in the same country you live in, being brainwashed and stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you been on extended trip to the space station? They have been attacking other Western Nations and it is because of our collective values or lack of.</em></p>
<p>Whoa, michael, as a european I most strongly protest the idea of &#8220;our collective values&#8221;.<br />
Man, I&#8217;m so glad I don&#8217;t live in the same country you live in, being brainwashed and stuff.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1471260', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: God is a Nihilist</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1471021</link>
		<dc:creator>God is a Nihilist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 19:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;terrorists themselves obviously see a clear connection&quot;

We should ask them where Osama is..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;terrorists themselves obviously see a clear connection&#8221;</p>
<p>We should ask them where Osama is&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1471021', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jingoist</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1470912</link>
		<dc:creator>Jingoist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The biggest difference has been that the Right-wing has taken a long-run view of the worldwide war on terror, while the left are seeking a quick fix. The Left need to understand a solution is a much higher standard than an idea. It&#039;s pretty easy to have a good idea. But it takes a tremendous amount of work to take that idea and make it a solution. The Left claim that there is no connection between the war on terror and the war in Iraq. They donâ€™t seem to notice that the terrorists themselves obviously see a clear connection, which they express in both words and deeds. 
Terrorists are pouring into Iraq, even at the cost of their lives, in order to prevent a free, democratic government from being established in the Middle East. They see victory or defeat in Iraq as having major and long-lasting repercussions throughout the region and even throughout the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest difference has been that the Right-wing has taken a long-run view of the worldwide war on terror, while the left are seeking a quick fix. The Left need to understand a solution is a much higher standard than an idea. It&#8217;s pretty easy to have a good idea. But it takes a tremendous amount of work to take that idea and make it a solution. The Left claim that there is no connection between the war on terror and the war in Iraq. They donâ€™t seem to notice that the terrorists themselves obviously see a clear connection, which they express in both words and deeds.<br />
Terrorists are pouring into Iraq, even at the cost of their lives, in order to prevent a free, democratic government from being established in the Middle East. They see victory or defeat in Iraq as having major and long-lasting repercussions throughout the region and even throughout the world.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1470899</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 18:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t read this idiotic book, but I saw the author on The Colbert Report.  His argument seemed to be this:  liberals make America less safe because Muslim extremists like bin Laden hate our values and lifestyles, therefore we should become more like THEM to assuage their rage.

Great idea!  If we would just let a Christian Taliban rule our culture and government, we&#039;d be safe!  Three cheers for liberty!

Why didn&#039;t anyone think of this before?!  What a genius.

Now go get a tissue and wipe the sarcasm off your screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read this idiotic book, but I saw the author on The Colbert Report.  His argument seemed to be this:  liberals make America less safe because Muslim extremists like bin Laden hate our values and lifestyles, therefore we should become more like THEM to assuage their rage.</p>
<p>Great idea!  If we would just let a Christian Taliban rule our culture and government, we&#8217;d be safe!  Three cheers for liberty!</p>
<p>Why didn&#8217;t anyone think of this before?!  What a genius.</p>
<p>Now go get a tissue and wipe the sarcasm off your screen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470899', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1470725</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every time I turn around, neocons are agreeing with Al Qeada. It blows my mind that they don&#039;t see it. 

This is the pussiest crap I&#039;ve ever heard coming from these people:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Though many Muslims believe their fight is against &quot;America&quot; and the West, they are really fighting the secular left.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yeah, the &#039;secular left&#039; were the ones dropping bombs on them.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Muslim extremists may never be convinced of that distinction, but D&#039;Souza argues the majority of traditional, nonradical Muslims can be.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
This is the equivalent of &#039;It&#039;s not me you want to kill. It was that leftie. He went thattaway.&#039; 

What PUSSIES.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, some debauchery exists in every culture, he says, but many see us proudly parade our perversions and then try to aggressively export them worldwide. Most are repulsed.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
And so it&#039;s right when they lob off heads for alleged adultery. It&#039;s great when they kill you for shaving your beard.

&lt;blockquote&gt;So far some in America&#039;s cultural left have gone into pre-emptive apoplectic rage based solely on the publisher&#039;s introduction letter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And these people are? 

Frankly, this is so laughable that I&#039;ve gone into pre-emptive jaw dropping.


This book is quite ignorable.

Please ignore it from now on Think Progress.
It&#039;s too stupid to deserve publicity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I turn around, neocons are agreeing with Al Qeada. It blows my mind that they don&#8217;t see it. </p>
<p>This is the pussiest crap I&#8217;ve ever heard coming from these people:</p>
<blockquote><p>Though many Muslims believe their fight is against &#8220;America&#8221; and the West, they are really fighting the secular left.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, the &#8217;secular left&#8217; were the ones dropping bombs on them.</p>
<blockquote><p>Muslim extremists may never be convinced of that distinction, but D&#8217;Souza argues the majority of traditional, nonradical Muslims can be.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is the equivalent of &#8216;It&#8217;s not me you want to kill. It was that leftie. He went thattaway.&#8217; </p>
<p>What PUSSIES.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, some debauchery exists in every culture, he says, but many see us proudly parade our perversions and then try to aggressively export them worldwide. Most are repulsed.</p></blockquote>
<p>And so it&#8217;s right when they lob off heads for alleged adultery. It&#8217;s great when they kill you for shaving your beard.</p>
<blockquote><p>So far some in America&#8217;s cultural left have gone into pre-emptive apoplectic rage based solely on the publisher&#8217;s introduction letter.</p></blockquote>
<p>And these people are? </p>
<p>Frankly, this is so laughable that I&#8217;ve gone into pre-emptive jaw dropping.</p>
<p>This book is quite ignorable.</p>
<p>Please ignore it from now on Think Progress.<br />
It&#8217;s too stupid to deserve publicity.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470725', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Oracle</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1470630</link>
		<dc:creator>The Oracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush admin held just ONE cabinet-level counter-terrorism meeting just ONE week before the 9/11 attacks, while the Clinton admin had been holding THREE cabinet-level counter-terrorism meetings a week. Thus, in a comparable eight-month period, the Bush admin held just ONE meeting compared to close to ONE HUNDRED held by the outgoing Clinton admin.

And this ONE Bush meeting occurred during a time (in the summer of 2001 just before the 9/11 attacks) when strident alarm bells were going off in the U.S. counter-terrorism intelligence community about an impending al Qaeda terrorist attack that Osama bin Laden was &quot;determined&quot; to conduct inside the United States.

And D&#039;Sousa&#039;s claim that the liberal freedoms in our liberal culture in our liberal democracy are responsible for the al Qaeda attacks indicates that he is just a traitor to our democracy, and should be locked away for a long, long time in a cell beside Bush, Cheney, Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, and all the other neo-con-poops who hate our liberal democracy as much as Osama bin Laden does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush admin held just ONE cabinet-level counter-terrorism meeting just ONE week before the 9/11 attacks, while the Clinton admin had been holding THREE cabinet-level counter-terrorism meetings a week. Thus, in a comparable eight-month period, the Bush admin held just ONE meeting compared to close to ONE HUNDRED held by the outgoing Clinton admin.</p>
<p>And this ONE Bush meeting occurred during a time (in the summer of 2001 just before the 9/11 attacks) when strident alarm bells were going off in the U.S. counter-terrorism intelligence community about an impending al Qaeda terrorist attack that Osama bin Laden was &#8220;determined&#8221; to conduct inside the United States.</p>
<p>And D&#8217;Sousa&#8217;s claim that the liberal freedoms in our liberal culture in our liberal democracy are responsible for the al Qaeda attacks indicates that he is just a traitor to our democracy, and should be locked away for a long, long time in a cell beside Bush, Cheney, Falwell, Robertson, Dobson, and all the other neo-con-poops who hate our liberal democracy as much as Osama bin Laden does.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470630', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: elbruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>elbruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 16:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;D&#039;Souza argues that American Christians and traditionalists have more in common with moderate traditional Muslims than they may realize.&quot;  Kind of makes a point - the extreme right wing fundies of both religions are pretty much the same.  That doesn&#039;t make either of them &lt;em&gt;right&lt;/em&gt; about anything, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;D&#8217;Souza argues that American Christians and traditionalists have more in common with moderate traditional Muslims than they may realize.&#8221;  Kind of makes a point &#8211; the extreme right wing fundies of both religions are pretty much the same.  That doesn&#8217;t make either of them <em>right</em> about anything, though.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470505', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: creasybear</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1470183</link>
		<dc:creator>creasybear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 were an attack by Al Qaeda on ALL Americans, left and right. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Al-Qaeda? Al-Qaeda means the &quot;Base&quot;. Ah, that sounds more like the Establishment or the WhiteHouse, or.... Funny how Bush and co turns every American to kids, scaring the shit out of them about the boogey who is coming to take away their freedom. 

And the US media joins in, especially Faux Noise, making us believe these monsters are our biggest nightmare, yet Al-Qaedi can&#039;t even touch the unsecured and hated royal sh****t heads down here in Saudi-Arabia, the home land of Osama-boogeyman. 

Well lets see how many face the boogeyman would further possess. At first it was Osama. Later Sadam. Now its a whole country, Iran. Well, maybe by next 2-10 years after Iran has been fully de-nucularized by our nukes, it would then be Syria, then the Saudis, while the constitution becomes more edited and tweaked, all in the name of killing the &quot;monsters&quot;. 

Yeah. Tweaked by the all powerful Jews, who are here to let the world know that this nation was never to be named USA, but USI. Know what is, the United States of Israel. The run the country. No matter what you believe or disbelieve. We are just a big dobberman for them. They hold the leash.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The terrorist attacks of 9/11/2001 were an attack by Al Qaeda on ALL Americans, left and right. </p></blockquote>
<p>Al-Qaeda? Al-Qaeda means the &#8220;Base&#8221;. Ah, that sounds more like the Establishment or the WhiteHouse, or&#8230;. Funny how Bush and co turns every American to kids, scaring the shit out of them about the boogey who is coming to take away their freedom. </p>
<p>And the US media joins in, especially Faux Noise, making us believe these monsters are our biggest nightmare, yet Al-Qaedi can&#8217;t even touch the unsecured and hated royal sh****t heads down here in Saudi-Arabia, the home land of Osama-boogeyman. </p>
<p>Well lets see how many face the boogeyman would further possess. At first it was Osama. Later Sadam. Now its a whole country, Iran. Well, maybe by next 2-10 years after Iran has been fully de-nucularized by our nukes, it would then be Syria, then the Saudis, while the constitution becomes more edited and tweaked, all in the name of killing the &#8220;monsters&#8221;. </p>
<p>Yeah. Tweaked by the all powerful Jews, who are here to let the world know that this nation was never to be named USA, but USI. Know what is, the United States of Israel. The run the country. No matter what you believe or disbelieve. We are just a big dobberman for them. They hold the leash.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1470183', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Idiocracy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1469851</link>
		<dc:creator>Idiocracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not even Pentagon agrees with the guy.
&lt;strong&gt;&#039;They hate our policies, not our freedom&#039;&lt;/strong&gt;
&#039;Muslims do not hate our freedom, but rather they hate our policies [the report says]. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states. Thus, when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy.&#039; 
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1129/dailyUpdate.html
http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf
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&lt;em&gt;&quot;What they will do is stagger along until there&#039;s a major incident and then suddenly say, &#039;Oh my God, shouldn&#039;t we be organized to deal with this?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;
Fmr. Nat. Comm. On terrorism chairman Paul Bremer  (Feb. 26. 2001)

It was self serving alright. 9/11 was &lt;strong&gt;essential &lt;/strong&gt;for the neocons and their PNAC agenda.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not even Pentagon agrees with the guy.<br />
<strong>&#8216;They hate our policies, not our freedom&#8217;</strong><br />
&#8216;Muslims do not hate our freedom, but rather they hate our policies [the report says]. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against Palestinian rights, and the long-standing, even increasing, support for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan and the Gulf states. Thus, when American public diplomacy talks about bringing democracy to Islamic societies, this is seen as no more than self-serving hypocrisy.&#8217;<br />
<a href="http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1129/dailyUpdate.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1129/dailyUpdate.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.acq.osd.mil/dsb/reports/2004-09-Strategic_Communication.pdf</a><br />
___<br />
<em>&#8220;What they will do is stagger along until there&#8217;s a major incident and then suddenly say, &#8216;Oh my God, shouldn&#8217;t we be organized to deal with this?&#8221;</em><br />
Fmr. Nat. Comm. On terrorism chairman Paul Bremer  (Feb. 26. 2001)</p>
<p>It was self serving alright. 9/11 was <strong>essential </strong>for the neocons and their PNAC agenda.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1469851', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shin Gallon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/16/cultural-left-responsible-for-911/comment-page-4/#comment-1469233</link>
		<dc:creator>Shin Gallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t &quot;conservative intellectual&quot; an oxymoron?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t &#8220;conservative intellectual&#8221; an oxymoron?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1469233', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: micropolyphony</title>
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		<dc:creator>micropolyphony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2007 08:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a graduate student at Stanford and I have to look at the damned Hoover tower every day . . . or rather, the center phallus upon which the cultural right &quot;firmly&quot; rides. It&#039;s fitting that this physically castrated rhetoric (in that they want every one else to fight these absurd wars while they reside in their ivory dildo) flows from a symbol of overcompensation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a graduate student at Stanford and I have to look at the damned Hoover tower every day . . . or rather, the center phallus upon which the cultural right &#8220;firmly&#8221; rides. It&#8217;s fitting that this physically castrated rhetoric (in that they want every one else to fight these absurd wars while they reside in their ivory dildo) flows from a symbol of overcompensation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1468806', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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