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Army chief gives escalation ‘50/50 chance’ of success.

“Army Chief of Staff General Pete Schoomaker has told a key House panel that the president’s new plan for Iraq stands a ‘50/50 chance’ of success, per one Republican and one Democratic source. Schoomaker appeared at a closed-door meeting of the defense subcommittee of the House Appropriations Committee to discuss military readiness.”



26 Responses to “Army chief gives escalation ‘50/50 chance’ of success.”

  1. ForTruth says:

    Pretty much everything has a 50/50 chance in some sense of the word. Jeez


  2. dlet says:

    Will the coin toss be televised?


  3. VerbalKint says:

    ridiculously optimistic

    I give it a 0 percent chance.


  4. Hardy Haberman says:

    I give it a 100% chance of being a protracted defeat and withdrawal for the US. Bush will spin it as a phased redeployment after a few months of ultra-bloody battle.

    War in Iraq, bad idea before and still a bad idea.


  5. JP says:

    fence sitter
    n. Informal

    One who takes a position of neutrality or indecision, as in a controversial matter.

    I think that about sums it up.


  6. DRxJ says:

    I think the Colts have a 50/50 chance of going to the SuperBowl, as well as the Bears.
    That’s what I think!


  7. Mr. Todd says:

    …a success at what? just assume that the surge completely pacifies Baghdad, the absolute best-case scenario. well then what? insurgents will just have moved somewhere else. forgive the cliche, but uh, this one has the benefit of accuracy, that insurgents dont have to win any battles to win the war, they merely have to forestall organization collapse. in other words, to keep exisiting, you know, not very hard. if our leaders paid the slightest attention they’d know this already, instead of sending more people to get shot for something that cant work.


  8. DieNowForPeace says:

    Way to go out on a limb with that prediction.

    Nice and cozy now, we wouldn’t want to offend anyone by predicting FAILURE.


  9. Smack says:

    A 50% chance for what?

    I have yet to see these “Victory Conditions” enumerated in any logical way.

    Please send me the list if you have it.

    How can we ever attain victory when they continually move the finish line?


  10. the liberal press says:

    Bush was against augmenting his war before he was for it.


  11. Clyde the Ripper says:

    The secret I learned in Statistics in College very definitely applies to DUHbya: With a 50/50 chance he will be wrong 95% of the time. The possibility of him being right is exactly 50/50 ’cause there ain’t no ties. The probability of him being right, however, given his track record, and abnormal level of intelligence (low that is) is about the same as Ann Coulter hiring Barack Obama for her butler. As they say, somewhere between zero and none.

    Speaking if Senator Obama, the major fault the neocons can find, other than being intelligent, attractive, caring, able, black, with a “four letter ” word for a middle name, is his lack of experience. Judging from the effing mess DUHbya has left us with his experience I would say the less the better. He sure as hell can’t do worse.


  12. Clyde the Ripper says:

    #9 Smack

    DUHbya compalins that when he finally is holding all the cards he discovers his opponent is playing chess.


  13. Bush says:

    That sounds like a mandate to me. Success is guaranteed.


  14. Marie says:

    50/50?? Is that how we’re managing the war now? We are reduced to a coin toss?
    Bush must go and take his whole damn group with him.


  15. Zooey says:

    GWB’s twins need to go to war. Maybe he can pick which one of the twins is going to die.


  16. gogreen says:

    I agree with #11 (Clyde). If you treat it like a coin toss, you have a 50/50 chance (independent trials with two outcomes). but it isn’t a coin toss. The chances of “success” as fearless leader has described at virtually nil. But nobody really knows what the neocon defintion of success means. It could be just the oil. It could be just to touch off the Middle East powder keg to see if something they like comes out of it. For some of them, it may be that this is the neccessary precursor to Armageddon.


  17. trueblue says:

    Oooooh,
    Harsh, Zooey. You don’t want to kill a “Hello Kitty” girl?…
    (remember? Showing up drunk on the WH lawn with a hello kitty t-shirt and flip-flops, and nothin’ else?)

    Of course we can’t know for sure if it’s really Zooey because there is no oversight.


  18. trueblue says:

    gogreen,
    Yes. I agree.
    Clyde is a wise man.
    :)


  19. Zooey says:

    Of course we can’t know for sure if it’s really Zooey because there is no oversight.
    Comment by trueblue

    That was the real me, true. :)

    Besides, it wouldn’t be me killing the Hello Kitty girl, it’s their dad’s war.


  20. gogreen says:

    I have a definite meaning of success which is recognized worldwide. The departure of fearless and his entire crew forthwith, preferably to a maximum security federal pen, with Dumbya in the psychiatric ward/


  21. trueblue says:

    Wanted to be sure it was your rapier wit, Zooey!!!
    Can’t be too careful.
    Now that I know,… damn! that was sarcastic!

    ;)


  22. ForTruth says:

    OMG, are you guys talking about “Hello Kitty” stuff?

    I shouldn’t start.

    This is actually serious. Do you think giving it a 50/50 chance is like the fence-sitting answer, the “safe” answer. That’s what I tell people when I am trying to be safe, or don’t really have an answer. “I’ll give it a fitty-fitty” yeah thats it.


  23. ForTruth says:

    Funny thing is, some people who used to be friends of ours, they turned out to be pretty lame. Well anyway the guy’s wife was totally into hello kitty, so if someone needs a target…

    Just kidding. Heh.


  24. darby1936 says:

    The army generals (particularly the ones still serving) will say anything to support the commander-in-chief. They will throw their men in the meat grinder as fast as the Secretary of Defense or the Commander-in-Chief.


  25. the great gazoo says:

    50/50 = “i haven’t gotta fraggin clue but i’m sure as shoot not gonna tell you that.”


  26. Rajeev Vashisht says:

    A daed man stops trying, a winner is one who perseveres. Perseverence is the NPV of success and failure is te stepping stone to success, life teaches you at any age, be ready for the lessons.

    http://blogs.ibibo.com/TechnicalJournal



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