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	<title>Comments on: FACT CHECK: Bush Has Cut Funding For Cancer Research</title>
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		<title>By: TvNewsLIES.org &#187; Archive &#187; Attention Tony Snow</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-2713018</link>
		<dc:creator>TvNewsLIES.org &#187; Archive &#187; Attention Tony Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bush &amp; the Environment Bush &amp; Cancer Funding [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ian MacLeod</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-1616357</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian MacLeod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 21:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one mentions that there are many treatments that work - they&#039;re just not available!  Does anyone remember hydrazine sulfate?  It reduced tumors, stopped tumor growth, stopped cachexia, and caused &quot;spontaneous remission&quot; in 66% of ALL cancers.  Trouble was, it was cheap (about 50 cents per dose), it worked well, and would have ruined the cancer treatment  business, and that&#039;s only one treatment.  The AMA and other agencies sabotaged the tests, &quot;concluded&quot; it was useless, and NOW try to get it.

As long as medicine is run by money, there will be no cure, period, whether one actually exists or not.

Ian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one mentions that there are many treatments that work &#8211; they&#8217;re just not available!  Does anyone remember hydrazine sulfate?  It reduced tumors, stopped tumor growth, stopped cachexia, and caused &#8220;spontaneous remission&#8221; in 66% of ALL cancers.  Trouble was, it was cheap (about 50 cents per dose), it worked well, and would have ruined the cancer treatment  business, and that&#8217;s only one treatment.  The AMA and other agencies sabotaged the tests, &#8220;concluded&#8221; it was useless, and NOW try to get it.</p>
<p>As long as medicine is run by money, there will be no cure, period, whether one actually exists or not.</p>
<p>Ian.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1616357', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tttw</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-2/#comment-1549449</link>
		<dc:creator>tttw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trillions?  Where did that come from?  The info which I have found shows the U.S. Gvmt. spending $5 billion/year (which is almost nothing compared to a  $1.2 trillion budget) on cancer research.  The Pharma site shows $39 billion and change per year on R&amp;D, but doesn&#039;t specify how much of that was on cancer. Any idea MA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trillions?  Where did that come from?  The info which I have found shows the U.S. Gvmt. spending $5 billion/year (which is almost nothing compared to a  $1.2 trillion budget) on cancer research.  The Pharma site shows $39 billion and change per year on R&amp;D, but doesn&#8217;t specify how much of that was on cancer. Any idea MA?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1549449', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tttw</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1549427</link>
		<dc:creator>tttw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trillions?  Where is that coming from?  The U.S. Government spends $5 billion a year (which is really nothing compared to a $1.2 trillion budget) on cancer research.  I&#039;ve looked at the pharma site, but I can&#039;t determine how much of that is for cancer research. Any idea MA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trillions?  Where is that coming from?  The U.S. Government spends $5 billion a year (which is really nothing compared to a $1.2 trillion budget) on cancer research.  I&#8217;ve looked at the pharma site, but I can&#8217;t determine how much of that is for cancer research. Any idea MA?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1549427', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: beena</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1530348</link>
		<dc:creator>beena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if we are to win war on cancer, we have to wage a war first. We can not win a war as we have not waged a war. I know as i lost my 15 year old daughter www.peaceisthecure.org two years ago to-day.
beena</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if we are to win war on cancer, we have to wage a war first. We can not win a war as we have not waged a war. I know as i lost my 15 year old daughter <a href="http://www.peaceisthecure.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.peaceisthecure.org</a> two years ago to-day.<br />
beena<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1530348', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal in New Mexico</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1485315</link>
		<dc:creator>Liberal in New Mexico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George, stay off the television. My cat can sense lies and evil and just won&#039;t stop meowing, whenever you are on the channel. Your pointed ears and crossed eyes do not help, either. She hisses like crazy. So, leave my cat alone and do not disturb my pussy, anymore. Comprendez?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George, stay off the television. My cat can sense lies and evil and just won&#8217;t stop meowing, whenever you are on the channel. Your pointed ears and crossed eyes do not help, either. She hisses like crazy. So, leave my cat alone and do not disturb my pussy, anymore. Comprendez?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1485315', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy Nason</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1485237</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy Nason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>George W., your days as Dick tater-head are numbered. The Democratic Congress is gonna git ya, and git ya good!
Why should anyone be surprised that W. is trying to &quot;scorch and burn&quot; his playing field? I&#039;m not. I&#039;m also not assuming for a minute that any of this crap is going to stand. W. is as a desperate and whining drunk, trying to track down his next cheap drink. This administration is going down and will make Richard Nixon&#039;s Watergate scandal look like a choir boy&#039;s innocent wet dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George W., your days as Dick tater-head are numbered. The Democratic Congress is gonna git ya, and git ya good!<br />
Why should anyone be surprised that W. is trying to &#8220;scorch and burn&#8221; his playing field? I&#8217;m not. I&#8217;m also not assuming for a minute that any of this crap is going to stand. W. is as a desperate and whining drunk, trying to track down his next cheap drink. This administration is going down and will make Richard Nixon&#8217;s Watergate scandal look like a choir boy&#8217;s innocent wet dream.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1485237', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1480262</link>
		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mighty?
â€¦are you still there?
â€¦I believe Bluedog49 (#24), Maddie Peterson (#14), and Heterodoxy (#13)â€¦
â€¦deserve a rebuttal from your august intellectual â€œlegalâ€ perspectiveâ€¦
comment by big papa

The troll won&#039;t  reply, because in reality it  has no specialized legal (lawyerette) knowledge--just neo talking points.  It is just like this troll, who  is famous for posting links that don&#039;t work, to finally post one that does work--except that it&#039;s really just PR material for phrma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mighty?<br />
â€¦are you still there?<br />
â€¦I believe Bluedog49 (#24), Maddie Peterson (#14), and Heterodoxy (#13)â€¦<br />
â€¦deserve a rebuttal from your august intellectual â€œlegalâ€ perspectiveâ€¦<br />
comment by big papa</p>
<p>The troll won&#8217;t  reply, because in reality it  has no specialized legal (lawyerette) knowledge&#8211;just neo talking points.  It is just like this troll, who  is famous for posting links that don&#8217;t work, to finally post one that does work&#8211;except that it&#8217;s really just PR material for phrma.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1480262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1479309</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 03:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;****Exactly angel michael, it will just go into *research*, at some useless university, that has some overly edumacated feller thatâ€™ll just apply sciency stuff that I donâ€™t undermastand!&quot;

Have you ever had cancer I_am?  I have, twice.  Colon &amp; lung.  I survived both and it wasn&#039;t because of any cure a government agency produced.  It was because of a great relationship with my doctor, family, and friends.  It was also because of all the incredible research and trillions of dollars that private companies have invested into finding a cure.  They have more to gain by finding this cure than the government has.  Would it have been more comfortable for me to take a pill as opposed to having those chemicals injected into me?  Of course!  But I won&#039;t hold my breath waiting for our government to fund that cure.  $40 million out of trillions?  Do you really think that $40 million reduction will set us back 1 second in finding a cure?  Tell me yes after you&#039;ve experienced the disease.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;****Exactly angel michael, it will just go into *research*, at some useless university, that has some overly edumacated feller thatâ€™ll just apply sciency stuff that I donâ€™t undermastand!&#8221;</p>
<p>Have you ever had cancer I_am?  I have, twice.  Colon &amp; lung.  I survived both and it wasn&#8217;t because of any cure a government agency produced.  It was because of a great relationship with my doctor, family, and friends.  It was also because of all the incredible research and trillions of dollars that private companies have invested into finding a cure.  They have more to gain by finding this cure than the government has.  Would it have been more comfortable for me to take a pill as opposed to having those chemicals injected into me?  Of course!  But I won&#8217;t hold my breath waiting for our government to fund that cure.  $40 million out of trillions?  Do you really think that $40 million reduction will set us back 1 second in finding a cure?  Tell me yes after you&#8217;ve experienced the disease.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1479309', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nffcnnr</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1478958</link>
		<dc:creator>nffcnnr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 01:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KO just named the Bush Admin the &quot;Worst Persons in the World&quot; for this one. That was too easy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KO just named the Bush Admin the &#8220;Worst Persons in the World&#8221; for this one. That was too easy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1478958', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1478773</link>
		<dc:creator>I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I couldnâ€™t make up the humor and ignorance that comes from you progs on these posts! Youâ€™re complaining about $40 million? Where do you think that money was going to go? Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

****Exactly angel michael, it will just go into *research*, at some useless university, that has some overly edumacated feller that&#039;ll just apply sciency stuff that I don&#039;t undermastand!

&lt;em&gt;&quot;There are currently thousands of universities, private institutes, public companies, and governments around the world spending TRILLIONS of dollars on cancer research. Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

****Who cares if the bulk of that research *begins* as pure research at universities that the government funds as *seed* research!  It doesn&#039;t matter that much of our modern medicine comes from these approaches!

Just look at those guys at the University of Alberta this week, that think they found a *cheap* and already available treatment for cancer!  Without that *government funded* pure research, the *corporate* research would probably never have stumbled onto it!

Of course, without government support, it&#039;ll also never see patients since no company will want to FDA process a drug that&#039;s cheap to make, and fully cures a patient!

&lt;em&gt;&quot;How much have the governments of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and Russia contributed? Why is it that the US government is the only one you chose to criticize when they decide to cut back on contributions that isnâ€™t even a drop in the total bucket? Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

****Yeah, those blame america first types, that instead of relying on foreign governments and foreign companies to come save us, expect us to grow research and new companies domestically!  How dare they!  We should be relying on Iran to find the breakthrough in medical care for americans suffering cancer!  Dam Iranians!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I couldnâ€™t make up the humor and ignorance that comes from you progs on these posts! Youâ€™re complaining about $40 million? Where do you think that money was going to go? Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&#8221;</em></p>
<p>****Exactly angel michael, it will just go into *research*, at some useless university, that has some overly edumacated feller that&#8217;ll just apply sciency stuff that I don&#8217;t undermastand!</p>
<p><em>&#8220;There are currently thousands of universities, private institutes, public companies, and governments around the world spending TRILLIONS of dollars on cancer research. Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&#8221;</em></p>
<p>****Who cares if the bulk of that research *begins* as pure research at universities that the government funds as *seed* research!  It doesn&#8217;t matter that much of our modern medicine comes from these approaches!</p>
<p>Just look at those guys at the University of Alberta this week, that think they found a *cheap* and already available treatment for cancer!  Without that *government funded* pure research, the *corporate* research would probably never have stumbled onto it!</p>
<p>Of course, without government support, it&#8217;ll also never see patients since no company will want to FDA process a drug that&#8217;s cheap to make, and fully cures a patient!</p>
<p><em>&#8220;How much have the governments of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and Russia contributed? Why is it that the US government is the only one you chose to criticize when they decide to cut back on contributions that isnâ€™t even a drop in the total bucket? Comment by michael â€” January 18, 2007 @ 7:44 pm&#8221;</em></p>
<p>****Yeah, those blame america first types, that instead of relying on foreign governments and foreign companies to come save us, expect us to grow research and new companies domestically!  How dare they!  We should be relying on Iran to find the breakthrough in medical care for americans suffering cancer!  Dam Iranians!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1478773', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: michael</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1478739</link>
		<dc:creator>michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t make up the humor and ignorance that comes from you progs on these posts!  You&#039;re complaining about $40 million?  Where do you think that money was going to go?  There are currently thousands of universities, private institutes, public companies, and governments around the world spending TRILLIONS of dollars on cancer research.  How much have the governments of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and Russia contributed?  Why is it that the US government is the only one you chose to criticize when they decide to cut back on contributions that isn&#039;t even a drop in the total bucket?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t make up the humor and ignorance that comes from you progs on these posts!  You&#8217;re complaining about $40 million?  Where do you think that money was going to go?  There are currently thousands of universities, private institutes, public companies, and governments around the world spending TRILLIONS of dollars on cancer research.  How much have the governments of Iran, North Korea, Syria, Venezuela, and Russia contributed?  Why is it that the US government is the only one you chose to criticize when they decide to cut back on contributions that isn&#8217;t even a drop in the total bucket?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1478739', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedog49</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1478414</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluedog49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s as predictable as night and day. When you talk to a corporatist like MA about the corporation&#039;s responsibility to the community, they usually say that the corporation&#039;s only responsibility is to maximize profits. When you talk about corporate welfare, they talk about the great service to the community the corporation provides by making new drugs purely for the benefit of the people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s as predictable as night and day. When you talk to a corporatist like MA about the corporation&#8217;s responsibility to the community, they usually say that the corporation&#8217;s only responsibility is to maximize profits. When you talk about corporate welfare, they talk about the great service to the community the corporation provides by making new drugs purely for the benefit of the people.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1478414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Real Cancer Researcher Here</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477388</link>
		<dc:creator>Real Cancer Researcher Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm... I did mean &quot;as many mistakes as successes&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; I did mean &#8220;as many mistakes as successes&#8221;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477388', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Real Cancer Researcher Here</title>
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		<dc:creator>Real Cancer Researcher Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ll just point out the obvious and say that Pharma research is not peer-reviewed and leads to as many mistakes as errors.  More errors, I&#039;d submit.  Pharma is all about high-thoughput trial and error.  One small flaw in the study design and the results that come from them are flawed.  And it&#039;s to the advantage of the study designer to put forth a flawed study, one that&#039;s weighted disproportionately towards success of a drug, so they can market a &quot;successful&quot; drug.  The recent spate of drug catastrophes were caused by precisely that.

In basic, government funded research, not only are we peer-reviewed, our goal is to UNDERSTAND the disease so that we (and drug companies) can take an intelligent approach to drug design.  We don&#039;t use trial and error, we use the scientific method.  When we think we&#039;ve found something about cancer that a drug can exploit, we either make it ourselves or we partner with Pharma to make it.  If we left it to Pharma we&#039;d have 10-fold the drug disasters that we&#039;ve had in the past 10 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ll just point out the obvious and say that Pharma research is not peer-reviewed and leads to as many mistakes as errors.  More errors, I&#8217;d submit.  Pharma is all about high-thoughput trial and error.  One small flaw in the study design and the results that come from them are flawed.  And it&#8217;s to the advantage of the study designer to put forth a flawed study, one that&#8217;s weighted disproportionately towards success of a drug, so they can market a &#8220;successful&#8221; drug.  The recent spate of drug catastrophes were caused by precisely that.</p>
<p>In basic, government funded research, not only are we peer-reviewed, our goal is to UNDERSTAND the disease so that we (and drug companies) can take an intelligent approach to drug design.  We don&#8217;t use trial and error, we use the scientific method.  When we think we&#8217;ve found something about cancer that a drug can exploit, we either make it ourselves or we partner with Pharma to make it.  If we left it to Pharma we&#8217;d have 10-fold the drug disasters that we&#8217;ve had in the past 10 years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477375', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477370</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt; It couldnâ€™t have anything to do with the 10Bln a year in tax credits given to an industry with over 40 billion a year in profits, could it? 
Comment by _am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:24 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Excellent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em> It couldnâ€™t have anything to do with the 10Bln a year in tax credits given to an industry with over 40 billion a year in profits, could it?<br />
Comment by _am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:24 pm</em></p>
<p>Excellent post!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477370', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477335</link>
		<dc:creator>I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;You missed the entire boat on this MA. How can GW stand for it and then cut it? How can you account for that? Comment by hellinabucket â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:21 pm&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

****Dear satan worshiper, our *king* can flip-flop as much as he wants.  We will never hold our own to *any* standards, as long as they&#039;re working to bring about Zion and the *rapture*.  So blow it out your hell-hole!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;You missed the entire boat on this MA. How can GW stand for it and then cut it? How can you account for that? Comment by hellinabucket â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:21 pm&#8221;</em></p>
<p>****Dear satan worshiper, our *king* can flip-flop as much as he wants.  We will never hold our own to *any* standards, as long as they&#8217;re working to bring about Zion and the *rapture*.  So blow it out your hell-hole!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477335', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477329</link>
		<dc:creator>I_am_mighty_aphrodite_and_a_zionist_fool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;NOTEProgs are whining about a $40 million cut in government funding and FORGET to mention (!!) the BILLIONSspent by the industryâ€¦. Comment by mighty aphrodite â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:10 pm&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

****Of course, never mind that for that 39.4 billion in R&amp;D, the top ten pharma companies alone received 37 billion in profits!  That&#039;s right folks, the amount of profits was higher than the amount of R&amp;D!

In fact the profit margins for this *generous* pharma industry is 18.5%, compared to an average of 2.2% for the fortune 500 as a whole.

And despite this *generous* economic bonanza the pharma companies experience - they miserly fund R&amp;D into anything that isn&#039;t a potential blockbuster.  So why *cure* something, when you can simply *maintain* the disease?  Who needs to *cure* AIDS or CANCER, when you can be assured people will pay you daily to keep it in remission.  Why do new, risky and innovative R&amp;D, when you can spend billions in just incrementally tweaking the drugs returning an 18.5% profit margin.  That profit is after the extravagant advertising, *lobbying* - *cough* and general wastefulness of the industry.

Yet we wonder as a country why our health care costs skyrocket.  It couldn&#039;t have anything to do with the 10Bln a year in tax credits given to an industry with over 40 billion a year in profits, could it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;NOTEProgs are whining about a $40 million cut in government funding and FORGET to mention (!!) the BILLIONSspent by the industryâ€¦. Comment by mighty aphrodite â€” January 18, 2007 @ 5:10 pm&#8221;</em></p>
<p>****Of course, never mind that for that 39.4 billion in R&amp;D, the top ten pharma companies alone received 37 billion in profits!  That&#8217;s right folks, the amount of profits was higher than the amount of R&amp;D!</p>
<p>In fact the profit margins for this *generous* pharma industry is 18.5%, compared to an average of 2.2% for the fortune 500 as a whole.</p>
<p>And despite this *generous* economic bonanza the pharma companies experience &#8211; they miserly fund R&amp;D into anything that isn&#8217;t a potential blockbuster.  So why *cure* something, when you can simply *maintain* the disease?  Who needs to *cure* AIDS or CANCER, when you can be assured people will pay you daily to keep it in remission.  Why do new, risky and innovative R&amp;D, when you can spend billions in just incrementally tweaking the drugs returning an 18.5% profit margin.  That profit is after the extravagant advertising, *lobbying* &#8211; *cough* and general wastefulness of the industry.</p>
<p>Yet we wonder as a country why our health care costs skyrocket.  It couldn&#8217;t have anything to do with the 10Bln a year in tax credits given to an industry with over 40 billion a year in profits, could it?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477329', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hellinabucket</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477315</link>
		<dc:creator>hellinabucket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You missed the entire boat on this MA.  How can GW stand for it and then cut it?  How can you account for that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You missed the entire boat on this MA.  How can GW stand for it and then cut it?  How can you account for that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477315', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mighty aphrodite</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/18/bush-cancer/comment-page-1/#comment-1477280</link>
		<dc:creator>mighty aphrodite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zimzone - I have no problem with your agreement or disagreement with the amount of advertising pharmas engage in.  I was making the point that too many see the government as the primary source of funding research and the truth is the pharmas spend more

&quot;The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) represents the countryâ€™s leading pharmaceutical research and biotechnology companies, which are devoted to inventing medicines that allow patients to live longer, healthier, and more productive lives. PhRMA companies are leading the way in the search for new cures. PhRMA members alone invested an estimated $39.4 billion in 2005 in discovering and developing new medicines. Industry wide research and investment reached a record $51.3 billion in 2005.&quot;
http://www.phrma.org/about_phrma/

&lt;strong&gt;NOTE&lt;/strong&gt;Progs are whining about a $40 million cut  in government funding and FORGET to mention (!!) the &lt;strong&gt;BILLIONS&lt;/strong&gt;spent by the industry....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zimzone &#8211; I have no problem with your agreement or disagreement with the amount of advertising pharmas engage in.  I was making the point that too many see the government as the primary source of funding research and the truth is the pharmas spend more</p>
<p>&#8220;The Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) represents the countryâ€™s leading pharmaceutical research and biotechnology companies, which are devoted to inventing medicines that allow patients to live longer, healthier, and more productive lives. PhRMA companies are leading the way in the search for new cures. PhRMA members alone invested an estimated $39.4 billion in 2005 in discovering and developing new medicines. Industry wide research and investment reached a record $51.3 billion in 2005.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.phrma.org/about_phrma/" rel="nofollow">http://www.phrma.org/about_phrma/</a></p>
<p><strong>NOTE</strong>Progs are whining about a $40 million cut  in government funding and FORGET to mention (!!) the <strong>BILLIONS</strong>spent by the industry&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1477280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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