ThinkFast: January 18, 2007
ThinkFast: January 18, 2007
Iraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki took “a page out of the Bush administration playbook,” saying yesterday that criticism of his administration from President Bush and other U.S. officials “give morale boosts for the terrorists and push them toward making an extra effort.”
The Senate’s high-profile ethics and lobbying reform bill was sidetracked yesterday after conservatives voted against further consideration of the bill because it didn’t include an amendment giving President Bush line-item veto power, the ability “to single out individual spending items in legislation for elimination.”
Rep. Heather Wilson (R-NM) criticized the Justice Department’s new approach to warrantless domestic spying, charging that it relies “on a blanket, ‘programmatic’ approval of the president’s surveillance program, rather than approval of individual warrants.” Administration officials “have convinced a single judge in a secret session, in a nonadversarial session, to issue a court order to cover the president’s terrorism surveillance program,” Wilson said.
In any case, the shift yesterday “doesn’t mean the government can’t still gather personal information about Americans without a court order,” a USA Today editorial states. “How? Through something called a National Security Letter. Unlike the warrantless wiretapping program, these letters don’t violate any laws, though perhaps they should.”
Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) is moving to create a special House panel to address global warming, headed by climate champion Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA). The decision, “to some degree, would sidestep” some powerful committee chairmen, specifically energy chairman John Dingell (D-MI), who is less aggressive on global warming issues.
Schwarzenegger calls for redeployment…and escalation. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) yesterday said the U.S. “should withdraw its military forces from Iraq by the end of this year.” He also gave support to Bush’s escalation “plan to send an additional 21,500 U.S. troops to Iraq.”
“The federal government’s biggest program to help people rebuild after natural disasters is on the verge of running out of operating money because of budgeting problems at the agency that runs it, the Small Business Administration,” the New York Times reports.
In a speech at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said federal judges are not “equipped to make decisions about” national security. “I try to imagine myself being a judge,” Gonzales said. “What do I know about what is going on in Afghanistan or Guantanamo?”
The National Association of Evangelicals and the Center for Health and the Global Environment at Harvard Medical School “joined forces on Wednesday to protect the environment from the ravages of global warming, calling on President George W. Bush and others in power to help.”
And finally: Two titans of journalism square off tonight. Stephen Colbert will appear on the “O’Reilly Factor” at 8 pm, while Bill O’Reilly appears on the “Colbert Report” at 11:30 pm. “I think it’s fine,” O’Reilly said of Colbert’s shtick. “I’m a prominent person in the media. I think satire is very, very entertaining for any society to have. I have never had a problem with it as long as it’s not mean-spirited, and I don’t think he is.”
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Anything to prevent Ethics Reform, Right GOP??
Ignoring that Line Item Veto’s have been beaten down in court; I’m wondering how do spin the two “Issues” together??
January 18th, 2007 at 9:13 amThe line-item veto was declared unconstitutional in 1998. Clinton tried to get it in 1996 but the Supreme Court struck it down. In the majority opinion, John Paul Stevens wrote that Congress didn’t have the authority to give Clinton the line item veto and if it wanted Clinton to have it, they would have to amend the Constitution.
I’m struck how this detail is missing from all the coverage of this bill.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:14 amDear Judd,
Those of us who are tired of seeing bona fide posts
deleted while “trolls” are allowed to run rampant on
ThinkProgress have decided to refrain from posting on
random days.
We will continue random walk-offs until ThinkProgress
takes positive action against the “trolls” who abuse
the site in flagrant violation of the Terms of Use and
until such time as bona fide posts are no longer
deleted.
Sincerely,
Zooey, For Truth, Briseadh na Faire, TripMasterMonkey, Barfly, Sharon, Krazny, Jane Schneider, Wayne Schneider, robert, WaltTheMan, It’s Just Karma, katy, Spudge_Boy, Clyde the Ripper, Rebel in Ca, trueblue, and others unnamed.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:14 amGood for Heather Wilson. The new FISA schtick is simply a retroactive legalization of prior warrantless domestic spying, and a green light to continue violating the 4th Amendment.
It’s awfully like the Military Commissions Act (aka, That which TP shall not mention), execpt this time our elected representatives had little or no say in its formulation.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:17 amUsing Gonzales logic, are judges qualified to make decisions on anything? After all what do they know about life on the streets, so how can they make decisions on criminal cases? What do they know about what goes on in America’s board rooms, so how can they make decisions in tax court? What do they know about engineering or science so how can they make decisions on product liability cases?
Face it, this has nothing to do with judges knowledge of Guantanamo or Afghanistan and everything to do with the right wing’s total disdain for our legal system. They much prefer the guilty until proven innocent track. They want compliant judges. They want defendants to simply be guilty rather than mount a defense and force the government to prove them guilty. This administration and the current crop of right wingers want nothing less than an end to our legal system as they see it and would like nothing better than to have a soviet style system where all the power lays in the hands of the whims of the leaders.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:27 amIn regards to Maliki v Bush- So who is lying? Bush told us last week and again on 60 minutes that he had worked out his escalation plan with the Iraqi government and they were on board and would be a big part of it. Who exactly was he talking to from the Iraqi government? Will the press jump all over this discrepancy or just move on to something silly?
January 18th, 2007 at 9:28 amcriticism of [Maliki's] administration from President Bush and other U.S. officials “give morale boosts for the terrorists and push them toward making an extra effort.†Why does Bush and Condi hate Iraq?
January 18th, 2007 at 9:30 amIraqi PM Nouri al-Maliki took “a page out of the Bush administration playbook,†saying yesterday that criticism of his administration from President Bush and other U.S. officials “give morale boosts for the terrorists and push them toward making an extra effort.â€
Nice parrot you have in Iraq, Mr Bush.
The Senate’s high-profile ethics and lobbying reform bill was sidetracked yesterday after conservatives voted against further consideration of the bill because it didn’t include an amendment giving President Bush line-item veto power, the ability “to single out individual spending items in legislation for elimination.â€
Firstly, I consider very strange the idea of a President editing a document already passed by a Congress and a Senate. Maybe his knowledge is greater than the one of all the other combined? Has he better advisors?
The National Association of Evangelicals and the Center for Health and the Global Environment at Harvard Medical School “joined forces on Wednesday to protect the environment from the ravages of global warming, calling on President George W. Bush and others in power to help.â€
One of the rare moments where a religious organization does anything really good for everybody, regardless of ideology…
“The federal government’s biggest program to help people rebuild after natural disasters is on the verge of running out of operating money because of budgeting problems at the agency that runs it, the Small Business Administration,†the New York Times reports.
Most probably, the money has been diverted into other NSA agencies, to protect the “Homeland”. Probably NOLA is out of that “homeland” concept.
In a speech at the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said federal judges are not “equipped to make decisions about†national security. “I try to imagine myself being a judge,†Gonzales said. “What do I know about what is going on in Afghanistan or Guantanamo?â€
Lack of curiosity or excessive cozyness?
And finally: Two titans of journalism square off tonight. Stephen Colbert will appear on the “O’Reilly Factor†at 8 pm, while Bill O’Reilly appears on the “Colbert Report†at 11:30 pm. “I think it’s fine,†O’Reilly said of Colbert’s shtick. “I’m a prominent person in the media. I think satire is very, very entertaining for any society to have. I have never had a problem with it as long as it’s not mean-spirited, and I don’t think he is.â€
What is the point of a not mean-spirited satire? The spirit of a satire is mock from the prominent treats of something, how can it be done without a little mean spirited thinking? Without it, satire becomes simply a harmless patting the satirized person in the back.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:30 amSign me up in your list, trueblue. Frankly, angie and Santo are the worst examples, and had wide room to post worthless and inflamatory comments.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:33 am#3 trueblue et. al.,
I’ve gone from posting, to lurking and reporting abuses in order to WAKE UP THE STUPID SITE ADMIN FOR TP.
Already sent 8 emails with copied text from Terms of Use violators.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:35 am9, 10.
myspammailbox at hotmail dot com
January 18th, 2007 at 9:37 am“I try to imagine myself being a judge,†Gonzales said. “What do I know about what is going on in Afghanistan or Guantanamo?â€
This from a guy who was a real estate attorney. I see, real estate = qualified to unilaterally decide domestic security issues and to push aside the U.S. Constitution. Federal judge = couldn’t possibly understand the intricacies of our system of checks and balances.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:47 amThe innocent inamtes have been in Guantanamo now for 5 years HOW MUCH LONGER 6,7,8,9,10 years
enogh is enough
January 18th, 2007 at 9:48 amWhy is the media NOT bringing up polling, or any other discussions for that matter…
…on the question of IMPEACHMENT?
…EVERYONE KNOWS that it is long past the time to hold these evil-doers (Bush and Cheney) accountable…
…for their corruption, incompetence, mass murder, mendacity and total DESTRUCTION of the credibility of the offices of the presidency and vice presidency…
I’ll tell you why…
…because “we the people” aren’t being VOCAL, VOCIFEROUS, BOISTEROUS, or COURAGEOUS enough!
…the Vietnam lie was ended ONLY when the people took to the streets…
…couldn’t WE ALL at least take the time to utilize our cell phones and computers to FLOOD Washington and our White House switchboard…
…with emails and calls of IMPEACHMENT?
…It’s our civic (and moral) duty…
…as for those diehard 20-30%’ers…
…shun, ostracize, and vilify them for the TRAITORS they are…
January 18th, 2007 at 9:48 am#3 Yeah add me to that too… the trolls around here are out of control. it’s making this entire site a waste of time. I’ll be spending my blog time over at Kos for a while i think :(
January 18th, 2007 at 9:51 amMaliki Stresses Urgency In Arming Iraqi Forces
BAGHDAD, Jan. 17 — The Iraqi government’s need for American troops would “dramatically go down” in three to six months if the United States accelerated the process of equipping and arming Iraq’s security forces, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Wednesday.
The head of Iraq’s Shiite Muslim-led government defended his country’s independence and sovereignty and called on U.S. leaders to show faith in his ability to lead.
SO LET ME GET THIS RIGHT IRAQI TROOPS ARE RUNNING AROUNS SHOUTING BAN G BANG YOUR DEAD NOW LIE DOWN, What a moron Bush really is No wonder theres been NO PROGRESS IN 4 YEARS
January 18th, 2007 at 9:53 amI applaud the measures taken to address the trolls. I will continue to post when the subject matter moves me to do so.
#12, you put it better than I would have.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:56 amTo all regular commenters:
Please be assured that we are taking aggressive action to ensure that the comment section maintains its integrity. We are aware of the problems and working very hard to fix them.
In the future, we will have a substantial upgrande of the comments section that should eliminate the problem — plans are already underway — but this can’t happen overnight. In the interim, we are exploring all options to make sure disruptions are limited.
We share your frustration. Please be patient with us as we work to solve this problem.
January 18th, 2007 at 9:58 am…because “we the people†aren’t being VOCAL, VOCIFEROUS, BOISTEROUS, or COURAGEOUS enough!
…the Vietnam lie was ended ONLY when the people took to the streets…
…couldn’t WE ALL at least take the time to utilize our cell phones and computers to FLOOD Washington and our White House switchboard…
…with emails and calls of IMPEACHMENT?
…It’s our civic (and moral) duty…
…as for those diehard 20-30%’ers…
…shun, ostracize, and vilify them for the TRAITORS they are…
Comment by big papa
Once a week. I send emails and letters to my reps ONCE A WEEK.
DO NOT LET UP PEOPLE. SPEAK OUT. WE CAN TURN THE TIDE.
January 18th, 2007 at 10:00 amMaliki hits out at lack of US backing
Mr Maliki said that if Iraqi security forces were given sufficient training and equipment, they could stabilise the country enough to allow US troops to start withdrawing within six months – a period in which a military build-up would still be under way.
“I think that within three to six months our need for the American troops will dramatically go down,” Mr Maliki said. “That’s on the condition that there are real strong efforts to support our military forces.”
Mr Maliki said the US “refusal” to provide Baghdad’s security forces with adequate weaponry and other equipment was slowing down the withdrawal of US troops.
January 18th, 2007 at 10:05 am“I think that within three to six months our need for the American troops will dramatically go down,” Mr Maliki said. “That’s on the condition that there are real strong efforts to support our military forces.”
Mr Maliki said the US “refusal” to provide Baghdad’s security forces with adequate weaponry and other equipment was slowing down the withdrawal of US troops.
Responding to comments from the US that his Shia-dominated government had failed to quell sectarian violence, Mr Maliki said many American and Iraqi lives would have been spared if the Iraqi forces had been better equipped.
The Iraqi government has long complained that the US is not providing proper equipment to deal with Shia militias and Sunni insurgents. But US officials – who doubt the impartiality of the Maliki government – are worried that such material would end up in the hands of the militias.
January 18th, 2007 at 10:07 amComment by DieNowForPeace #19
…you’re not alone…
…just contacted (by cell)…
…Judd Gregg…to let him know how despicable his blocking ethics reform is -with all things- trying to give BUSH “line item veto” power…
…how INSANE is THAT?
…also called Senators Reid and Hagel to tell them how much we want/need IMPEACHMENT and ACCOUNTABILITY…
…keep pushing DieNowForPeace…
January 18th, 2007 at 10:16 am“I think satire is very, very entertaining for any society to have. I have never had a problem with it as long as it’s not mean-spirited, and I don’t think he is.”
I think commentary is very, very important for any society to have. I have never had a problem with commentary as long as it’s not mean-spirited, and I know Bill is mean-spirited. Ignorant, mean-spirited man.
Judd speaks!!!!!! It’s been quite some time already where regular posters have noted disappearing posts and abuse of terms of use. Please let’s not make ‘overnight’ weeks and months.
January 18th, 2007 at 10:17 amTrolls? You guys want out of contrl trolls? Visit drum or atrios. By comparison this site does an excellent job of keeping the smell down .
January 18th, 2007 at 11:02 amWitnessed McConnell on the Senate floor yesterday crying bitter tears about “how unfair the Democrats are” for not letting the Repuklicans have all the earmarks they want on legislation. Where were this fraud’s tears when his disgusting party tied up every effort of the Dems to do the people’s work? Sit down you hypocrite and shut up!
January 18th, 2007 at 11:09 amJudd, et. al.: I’m looking forward to the new comments changes. TP is a great site and, until very recently, always made for a good argument. I would like to suggest a limit to comment length. When people cut and paste a 10 paragraph comment, it just drags down the discussion, IMHO.
Keep on keepin’ on.
January 18th, 2007 at 11:17 amA blueprint for chaos in Iraq
The “New Way Forward” strategy to be implemented by the Bush administration amounts to a new way forward to regional chaos. The policy pointedly asserts itself to politically unite Iraq’s fractious and troublesome sectarian entities and, simultaneously, defang Iraq’s more radical Sunni and Shi’ite sectarian militias. The goal is stability inside Iraq, but with the assured cost of a deadly boomerang in one form or another….
The US can do little to prevent Iran and its proxies from inflaming the region, all the way from Iraq to Saudi Arabia, including Lebanon and the Palestinian territories.
Added to the mix is the fact that Shi’ites and Shi’ite-sympathetic entities exist in significant numbers throughout the region, including within the domain of each of the oil-rich Sunni regimes. The US and Britain seriously risk the instigation of significant Islamic outrage and unity in opposition to the US and to the US-friendly Sunni regimes. Thus the toppling of, or else the forced radicalization of, the oil-rich Sunni regimes in the direct aftermath of a strike on Iran is probable.
Iran’s quick recovery from any attacks, with the help of Russia, China and other key energy-exporting and consuming regimes around the globe, is assured.
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IA19Ak04.html
January 18th, 2007 at 11:31 amThe big story today is what we learn about warrantless wiretaps on American citizens. The big splash yesterday was that the Bush administration would comply with FISA law after all. But the devil is in the details and AG Gonzales did not provide any of that yesterday.
It seems that “compliance” to Gonzales means cherry picking a single FISA Court Judge to issue a blanket order giving permanent authorization to spy on Americans under a blanket court order. This, of course, stands the FISA Court on its head. It was brought into existence specifically to prevent such activity. RIP Fisa Court. It was good to know you.
The next step must be to challenge in Federal Court as illegal this blanket order for unsupervised spying on American citizens. It clearly defies the current language of the 1978 FISA law, as amended.
http://barbinmd.dailykos.com/
January 18th, 2007 at 11:32 am…thank you Judd…
January 18th, 2007 at 11:53 amActually, I’m hoping a group of judges in the Hague gets to find out that answer…
January 18th, 2007 at 12:09 pmOops. We’ll follow the Constitution
One of the things that bothers me these days about Congress and the courts is the amount of time it takes them to react to things.
The President has taken many latitudes that appear to be un-Constitutional. Obviously, the 107th, 108th and 109th Conresses weren’t going to hold him to any accountability. The courts seem to take forever to rule on some of these issues.
We finally do get a Congress that is going to hold the President accountable and the administration says, oops we’ve decided we’ll abide by the Constitution. I’m sorry, but that’s not good enough for me.
If these folks have been breaking the Constitution, they need to be held accountable. This isn’t a speeding ticket we’re talking about here!
Is the Adminstration going to pull this with all of their actions such as torture, suspension of habeus corpus, etc.?
January 18th, 2007 at 12:09 pmSupporting American Troops Means Saving Their Lives!
Thursday 18th of January 2007
by Jay Randal
For anyone in Washington, DC, to say that supporting our troops is sending more to die, or to be maimed in Iraq, denotes hideous hypocrisy and dire negligence!
To really support the troops means to save their lives!
Forcing American soldiers to fight to secure oil fields, for greedy CEO petroleum profiteers, is criminality of the worst kind and vile violation of the Constitution!
Senators and Representatives who promote warfare, for profits, betray the trust of the American citizenry and destroy the foundation of United States democracy!
Those who join the military pledge to defend the US against real enemies, NOT manufactured threats NOR bogus concocted terrorists, and Iraq is a created war!
The American public overwhelmingly insist that Iraq debacle-fiasco-quagmire comes to a quick end, and all the troops returned home, so the Congress must do it!
( Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
PS: Contact your Reps in DC and give them hell to end Iraq War!
January 18th, 2007 at 12:17 pmOne of the things that bothers me these days about Congress and the courts is the amount of time it takes them to react to things.
Comment by Dogjudge #31
Dog,
with the gravity of the issues confronting our judiciary and government officials perhaps that’s a good thing…
…decisions made by these people can either help OR adversely affect us for many years to come…
…(the 2000 selection result is a monumental testimony to the validity of the statement I made above)…
…I just hope there’s no statute of limitations on TREASON…
January 18th, 2007 at 12:19 pmRE: #3 Judd, add me to the list.
January 18th, 2007 at 12:21 pmCorrine,
January 18th, 2007 at 12:29 pmI agree, it is odd that we don’t hear more about the line-item veto already being declared unconstitutional. I’m even more surprised that the proposed amendment apparently has to even be acknowledged by the senate leadership and that it carries any parilamentary weight. I would fully expect Reid to say, “Nice try, it’s already been declared dead by the supreme court”, and move on.
What a difference a year – and electoral disaster – makes. As Attorney General Alberto Gonzales defended the Bush administration’s illegal NSA domestic spying last February, Republicans Senators rushed to the defense of the President and his program. Fast forward to yesterday’s announcement by Gonzales that the White House was backing away from wiretapping without FISA court warrants and the GOP’s histrionics seem all the more comical.
For the details, see:
January 18th, 2007 at 12:52 pm“GOP Flashback: No Civil Liberties When You’re Dead.”
No mention of the report that the penatagon adminsitraiton has hid over $1 billion in other agencies accounts? One more exammple of the corruption and mismanagement going on there.
January 18th, 2007 at 12:55 pmGive Judd and TP a chance to cleanse the threads of troll droppings! Some of the Bush lover trolls are paid to gum up the threads, but some are just crazy cyber kids who are malicious silly fools!
January 18th, 2007 at 12:56 pmComment by Mark #37
I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard that the Pentagon was…
…(un)auditable…
…how is it possible that the single-most expensive governmental bureaucracy (Defense)…
…has no way of being audited?
…what bullsh*t!
January 18th, 2007 at 1:20 pmThose silly activist Supreme Court Judges and their silly rulings that affect George Bush. He is the the first king of America and he can overrule Congress and the Supreme Court.
January 18th, 2007 at 1:32 pmPlease help!
Petition AGAINST Bush Library.
And no, you don’t have to be Methodist to sign.
January 18th, 2007 at 2:01 pmJudd,
Thanks for your reply.
We await, impatiently.
January 18th, 2007 at 2:58 pmComment by DieNowForPeace #41
…signed the petition…
…then what do you think pops up on TP?
…must’ve been meant to be…
January 18th, 2007 at 3:18 pmJudd,
Don’t let them unnerve you. You’re doing an excellent job here, and in spite of the many growing pains, as TP gains national popularity, many of us still support and appreciate all your hard work and dedication to this site, in spite of the persistent trolls.
Thanks!
January 18th, 2007 at 6:58 pmi’ve been reading through the threads and comments occasionally through the day and wanted to break my “refrain from posting†to commend judd and co. on their admirable efforts to control the obnoxious troll takeover…
this is a direct result of the declaration by and insistance of many of the “regular†commenters that “ThinkProgress takes positive action against the ‘trolls’ who abuse the site in flagrant violation of the Terms of Useâ€â€¦
the problem of bona fide posts being deleted may not yet have been addressed completely, but i’ve not read of any complaints about such…
i – we (i’ll take the liberty) – truly appreciate judd’s rapid response this morning to that message of frustration and aggravation with what had become an intolerable and embarrassing situation… embarrassing to be associated with the idiocy that was allowed to run rampant on this site…
so, for those who are enjoying the lack of whining today – you’re welcome…
and, judd & co., thank you very much for you extra effort today… please, please, please do not let up with this endeavor to keep TP a top rated blog site…
January 18th, 2007 at 7:06 pm“Judd, Don’t let them unnerve you. You’re doing an excellent job here, and in spite of the many growing pains, as TP gains national popularity, many of us still support and appreciate all your hard work and dedication to this site, in spite of the persistent trolls. Thanks! Comment by unbelievable — January 18, 2007 @ 6:58 pm”
****Dear unbeliever, I totally agree with you! I particularly enjoy Judd’s fastidious efforts to keep down the *librul* trolls, so I can spend more time helping you out with our shared vision of the *rapture* and *zionism*! I particularly appreciated how Judd refused (and still refuse) to cover the Lieberman election and continued attacks on you silly progs! Thanks for not *ratting-him-out* as the zionist *con* that he really is!
Now Judd if you will just continue to narrowly constrain the progressive movement away from trying to make *peace* in the middle east, we can finally expand Israel to become Zion and bring about the rapture!
Thanks for your continued support, and we appreciate particularly how you focus your energy almost exclusively on attacking the *progs* that post those silly “9″ you know what-what posts! They’re so much more off topic than abortion, and Ted’s swimming skills, or people’s fantasies about Hill’reh’s sexual persuasion!
January 18th, 2007 at 8:34 pmA president who lies under oath is okay, but a president who references sixteen words from an allies’ intelligence report should be dragged through the streets naked.
When he just states the “reference” without the caveats attached, he’s cherry picking. And yes, after a thorough horsewhipping.
Poverty is the cause of all terrorism…which is why the leaders of al Qaeda are typically U.S.-educated and were raised in wealth and luxury.
And their followers? Man, you’re weak tonight, Rachel.
I just got a HUGE bonus check from the RNC as their top Texas Young Republican of the Month!
For helping them lose the last election?
but America is entirely at fault for the hatred of Islamofascists
Using the term Islamofascist is like hanging a virtual “I’m with stupid” sign around your neck!
Comedy gold!
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