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rachel, he may not get elected but it won’t be because of his name. That’s a sad ignorant view.
January 19th, 2007 at 10:34 pmObama
Osama
He will never get elected with a name like that.
Just an observation.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
And this is intelligent discourse? (as per your “list” on the previous thread) – very funny. My 10 year old niece could do a better job than that.
Shouldn’t the trolls be crawling back under their bridge by now?
It’s a shame that the right-wing is swift-boating this guy so soon – it’s clear that they are scared of him.
January 19th, 2007 at 10:42 pmfortunately, the average American is not stupid like the Republicans and their ilk would like to think. They can tell the difference between the names, even if they have a one letter difference.
January 19th, 2007 at 10:46 pmThey are also not going to wet themselves every time Islam or Muslim is mentioned.
Obama won’t sit for this. The man is very proud of who he is and won’t allow others to attempt and paint a different image of him. This could be the total exposure of the swiftboaters for who they are.
For Clinton’s camp to research Obama is only prudent. They will most likely be running against each other in the primaries. But to slander with no facts. That’s a republican hack job. It’s similar to what Rove did to McCain during the primaries for 2000. And then there’s Fox, so eager to spread dispariging remarks instead of reporting news.
January 19th, 2007 at 10:47 pmThis has Rove’s dirty fingerprints all over it. But Rove has lost his touch. His big election strategy was to cling to the party base, and it failed badly. But he is still trying to cling to the base with this tactic. The GOP can’t win without independent voters, who are already turning against the GOP in large numbers (apparently McCain is tanking badly among independents). This sick name game will probably work with the double-digit IQ koolaid drinkers, but I bet it backfires with everyone else.
January 19th, 2007 at 10:58 pmI just can’t see the GOP’s hand in this stuff. I think they would love to see Him get the nomination. Why do I feel a Clinton job here?
January 19th, 2007 at 10:59 pmIt’s a different twist on a tired old theme. Obama has too much energy and not enough bagage to be Rovinated.
Rachel, it is an opinion and there will be additional traction on this. It’s my opinion that it will fail and republicans will continue to look worse because of these petty attacks while ignoring the issues of the day. Such like the ones that Obama brings to the floor. Not to mention the first 100 hours promise was completed in 87 hours. No Gay Marriage or abortion rights were brought up. Only sensible issues. Not the wedge issues that were the dominant play of republicans. They can’t get spending bills together but have no problem rushing for Terry Schiavo. Just my opinion.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:05 pmrachel always tries to suck up with a different last name, then goes nutso on us.
I don’t get it.
Then again, I’m sane.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:06 pmUnfortuneatly,
Rachel may be right. We have too many dense-ass people who just can’t accept a non-christian, non-white name as the President.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmWhy do I feel a Clinton job here?
Comment by beefeater — January 19, 2007 @ 10:59 pm
you don’t – but you were told to think that…
January 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmis it true rachel? are you a troll?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmPut words in your own mouth please, not mine.
Thank you.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
Oh? Words like these?
Look for me to be your grandchilds President.
Both George Herbert Walker Bush and George Walker Bush told my father and I that very thing.
The legacy continues.
With me.
You really should be more friendly, you are talking to a future President of the United States.
The Bushs said to my father and I that they would personally help me and see to it I was elected President in about 25 years. The Bushs do not lie.
I will pick up exactly wher George Bush Sr. and George Walker Bush left off.
I know and have met quite a few PNAC members also.
Kristol is a real hoot!
You folks should give Kristol more credit that you do.
You and he are alike in so many ways.
We all are. Just go with the flow.
Comment by Texas Young Republicans
January 19th, 2007 at 11:07 pmSpudge,
Please tell me how to do that superscript thing…
(ie the TM)
Thanks.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:08 pmObama.
Who cares. WE will NEVER EVER SUPPORT HIM FOR PRESIDENT.
He is a Republican straw man.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:11 pmPut words in your own mouth please, not mine.
Thank you.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
Or how about these words, Rache?
TripMaster Monkey
What an oppurtunistic leech you are
I hope judd bans your ass for LIFE
Go masturbate some more Trip My Monkey
Comment by trip my monkey
January 19th, 2007 at 11:11 pmtrue,
I’ll email it to you.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmRight after the word “List”, type a space, then put “TM” inside of parentheses.
The List (put just the letters “TM” in here)
The List (TM)
January 19th, 2007 at 11:12 pmI don’t think Obama is a real threat yet to take the nomination. Too young, too new on the money raising circuit. My bet is that he is angling for exposure, and maybe the Vice Presidency. Obama in 2016 sounds right.
If Obama loses for a wrong reason it won’t be his name, it will be his skin color.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:14 pmYellowbird,
Scooby-Doo moment just then…..
“Rrraaaahh?”
What in the world does that mean?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:14 pmA what? Republican strawman? And Hillary is Dorthy with Kerry as the Tin Man. Let me guess Dean’s the lion ( the roar won’t die). But then who is the wicked witch? Elizabeth Dole? Maybe. Bush in drag has potential. The flying monkeys have to be Fox news. Does this mean if we throw water at them we’ll stop the signing statements?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:16 pmPut words in your own mouth please, not mine.
Thank you.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
No, your words are toxic enough, Rachael:
I’m really sick of this.
Comment by Zooey — January 17, 2007 @ 7:25 pm
Then leave before I gouge your eyes out you silly little cum catcher
Comment by Zooeys *Butch* friend
January 19th, 2007 at 11:17 pmHe is a Republican straw man.
Comment by Yellowbird
Wow. I didn’t know an actual person could be a strawman.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:17 pmOy Barfly, I could have done without the reminder…
January 19th, 2007 at 11:19 pmIt may well be that GOP operatives are trying to drive a wedge between Hillary and Obama, to set off an internecine battle between them.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:20 pmLet me know when the trolls leave here so the discussion can continue.
Thank you.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
As I said the other night, you’re not running anyone off, Rachael.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:21 pmSorry Zooey.
But after the past week, she doesn’t get a free pass.
I’ll refrain, and just laugh at her arguments.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:22 pmThank you everyone for helping this poor unsavvy person!
January 19th, 2007 at 11:22 pmLet me know when the trolls leave here so the discussion can continue.
Thank you.
Comment by rachel kinnardi — January 19, 2007 @ 11:17 pm
Oh, Goody!
It’s going away!
January 19th, 2007 at 11:24 pmThe Republicans will link Osama and Obama in any TV spots they can find on name recognition alone and skin color.
Now imagine 87 year old Gladys seeing a TV spot like that.
Her first thought? And the fact she cannot see so well or hear anymore?
Obama? Isnt he that terrorist?
This is what the Republicans will be pushing and it has already started.
I am glad you read so much into one small post.
Comment by rachel kinnardi — January 19, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
No American including Obama would expect anything less from the GOP but these scare tactics are not as effective as they used to be.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:26 pmit’s bad enough those troll remarks were there the first time…
January 19th, 2007 at 11:27 pmknock it off… quit picking a fight…
You guys know her “list” is just a frustrated adolescent foot-stomp, in retaliation for trueblue’s list.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:29 pmFu*k, I thought I would make the list.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — January 19, 2007 @ 11:25 pm
I didn’t make the list either. Ain’t that a bitch?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:29 pmComment by Spudge_Boy
:)))))
Thank you very much.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI would vote for him.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:32 pmquit picking a fight…
Comment by katy —
Those were her words, Katy.
Some things shouldn’t be ignored. TP might refuse to do anything, but some comments cannot be unsaid, and put one outside the bounds of reasonable discourse.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:33 pmBarfly,
You are probably correct. I guess I never thought of it because I was never one of those exclusionary cheerleader types; but now that you mentioned it, it sounds about right.
Shoot! Now I feel bad for the troll.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:34 pmBarfly,
Thats why I was in attack mode with that Rachel tonight.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:36 pmWe also can play juvenile semantic games like the fear conniseur Straussian Neocons.
ONE LETTER DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN CLINTON & BUSH
Clinton – BLOW JOB
Bush – BLOWN JOB
See how fun it is?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:40 pmI am surprised that I made the list. Sometimes I come down hard on the trolls, name-calling and all, but I don’t remember tangling with them much this past week. I am guessing that I must have had a fracas with rachel earlier, when she/he/it was posting under a different name.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:41 pmRight-wing media figures claim Clinton behind Obama/Muslim smears
Summary: Melanie Morgan, Lee Rodgers, Rush Limbaugh, and John Gibson all forwarded the accusation made by a website controlled by Rev. Sun Myung Moon that Sen. Hillary Clinton was responsible for spreading information linking Sen. Barack Obama to a madrassa, or Muslim school. None of the four cited any evidence, other than the article, that Clinton was responsible for promoting the madrassa story, and the article cited no one by name.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200701200003
and, has anyone seen the email going around?
January 19th, 2007 at 11:42 pmbe sure to send this out to debunk:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp
.
Spudge,
Of course you were on the list!
Didn’t you see your name posted?
BTW:
January 19th, 2007 at 11:42 pmIt was a collaberation.
I’d like to thank all the people who helped me, but if I did the trolls would haunt you as well so I won’t!
ForTruth,
Fight the good fight.
This is our pad, and respect for the other posters is paramount. Anyone who violates our space with such cankerous rhetoric should have her words hung ’round her neck, to alert other posters to the species of bottom-feeder they’re dealing with.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:46 pmRepugs are making a two-fer on the swiftboating of Barack Obama — they are smearing him with unfounded innuendoes, and claiming it all came from a Hillary Clinton source.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:53 pmThere is nothing too low for the unethical sacs of bacteria that are the Faux news Repugs..
to alert other posters…
Comment by Barfly — January 19, 2007 @ 11:46 pm
um… do you think we couldn’t figure it out?
i really don’t like the hate, from either side… it’s not helpful…
just sayin’…
g’nite…
January 19th, 2007 at 11:55 pmWow. I think I beat Media Matters to it:
The only “misinformed†people here are apparently the readers of this site
When wingnut feel like sharing, it is.
Rob, it reads like a gossip column; no-one’s on record, not even the author! It’s a hit piece on both Clinton and Obama, from a notoriously unreliable, and biased source.
This is your “proof?â€
Comment by Barfly — January 19, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
From the Media Matters website:
Fri, Jan 19, 2007 9:20pm EST
No applause necessary. (no, really, I mean it)
Not so uninformed if I beat MM to it, I guess!
January 19th, 2007 at 11:57 pmThen they would be able to single out Hilary as the next vitim unfettered.
Rove has his smelly fingers all over this one.
Comment by rachel kinnardi — January 19, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
>
astute analysis. very close. but the real machieavellian tactic here is to smear Obama and make it look like Hillary did it. That takes down two Democratic candidates in one shot. That’s Rove’s style.
Right now we only have enough information to speculate.
Obama must be seen as a likely successful candidate in ‘08 for this kind of smear campaign to begin so early in the race. If he survives this, it will be because the true source of the smear will become known, thus discredited and knocked out of the race.
Every viscious tactic in the book, and maybe a few new ones besides are going to be thrown at this guy, from all sides. I will be surprised if he survives. I get the feeling that the money behind the Democratic Party won’t back him.
He’d make an interesting 3rd Party choice…with Kucinich.
January 19th, 2007 at 11:58 pmWhy doesn’t Obama go on CNN and say “Oh, uhhh, I’m not a Muslim.”. My question is…why the f*** doesn’t he do it!?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:02 amActually, Barfly, I beat both of you re the Moonie Times. :-)
Actually, if you read the article, you will see that it is the Hillary Clinton camp that is supposedly pushing this story.
Comment by Exley
Uh huh. The article is in Insight Magazine, which is owned by the Moonie Times.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:03 amConsider your sources, Exley.
Comment by Zooey — January 19, 2007 @ 1:03 pm
Repugs are making a two-fer on the swiftboating of Barack Obama — they are smearing him with unfounded innuendoes, and claiming it all came from a Hillary Clinton source.
Comment by Marie — January 19, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
It is the perfect Karl Rove psyop.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:05 amFunny I don’t think I have ever addressed one of Racheals post, mainly because I have never thougth it worth the effort. Yet I am on the “list”. Fine by me.
Obama represents a threat to the republicans, and they know it. He will come out well, and Fox will look even more like idiots.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:11 amYou think these right wing idiots are confusing him with Keith Ellison? After all, to these mouthbreathers, they all look alike.
Who. Is. Flashman? And why is George W. Bush reading him? Mo Do tells us.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:12 amYou’re right, Zooey. You were first. But I first pointed out that there wasn’t a byline, or named sources. And that it was highly unlikely that anyone from the Clinton camp would talk off-the-record with a conservative outlet, considering the emnity between the two.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:18 amIt is crappy that BNF’s posts get the smackdown so much. Jeez.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:23 amBarfly,
Don’t take it seriously. I’m just being a skeezy bitch. Heh.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:32 amThe only bright spot in this Obama-Hillary smear campaign is…
…the ONLY people who regularly listen to, watch and BELIEVE these al Crackker sombiches and Bushite who*es…
…Morgan, Fox, Limpballs et al….
…are the diehard 30%’ers…
…who wouldn’t vote for Obama if he were Jesus Christ incarnate…
…fu*k ‘em…
…they’re dead anyway (career wise)…
January 20th, 2007 at 12:32 amThis is a Clintonian smear.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:35 amShut the f*ck up, Bob.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:37 amSorry folks, I am late coming in tonight. Who is rachel kinnardi and when did she take ownership of this site with her list of people she will or will not accept that is repeated on almost every thread more than once?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:41 amComment by Marie
Who wants to tell her?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:43 amMarie,
If you’ve been around in the last week, and I think you have, this person is the same person who has been disrupting the threads with everything from numerous posts on every thread, to threats of violence. Now we have The List (TM)
January 20th, 2007 at 12:50 amFOX News is smearing Sen. Obama on orders of Karl Rove. Karl loves to character assassinate those who are a threat to the corrupt vile GOP!
January 20th, 2007 at 12:51 amIs rachel that Shmendrick troll from a few days ago?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:53 amJay,
Yes. I called the troll “Schmendrick” and it adopted the name.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:01 amSorry. :}
I saw a comment of yours here then it disappeared.
Strange.
I was reading it then
Poof!
Comment by rachel kinnardi — January 20, 2007 @ 12:08 am
You are correct. Yet again, one of my posts which complied with the Terms of Use has been deleted for striking too close to home for someone.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:04 amI want to tell all the Republicans that I’m am starting my Castro memorial early. It won’t be long now. I practically grew up with him.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:06 amJay,
January 20th, 2007 at 1:07 amClinton is behind this. Wake up!
Zooey came up with that name, hilarious. Schmendrick. heh.
We have a Mt. Kendrick.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:07 amNice to see that the Rover has the Swiftboating Smear and Queers at full throttle. The bigoted, slimeball low IQers are drooling over this.
If you can’t be more intelligent, be bigger assholes, and play to that KKK attitude.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:09 amTruth > Castro is now a frail old man, but he could live another 5 years just to piss off the Cuban community in Florida who hate his guts.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:11 amHey I found Rachel on the Internet:
High-School Drug Testing
Rachel Kinnard, Teacher
“We must have drug testing in schools, as our children are our greatest resource. Well, second greatest, after cobalt.”
And she appears to be dating this guy:
Chad Liman, Student
“Man, if they do that, I’m gonna take so many drugs that their, like, drug machine will blow the fu@k up.”
A Must Read!!!
January 20th, 2007 at 1:14 amBob lol > Hillary Clinton is NOT behind this you fool. Karl Rove decided to spead the rumour that Hillary is behind the smearing of Obama. Karl hopes to start a fight between Hillary and Barack, but they both know the GOP is behind the attack.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:15 amComment by Briseadh na Faire — January 19, 2007 @ 11:58 pm
and suddenly it reappears again, at #64.
The question is, whom am I freaking out enough to cause them to delete my posts?
Don’t they realize by deleting posts, they draw even more attention to the deleted material?
Then again, perhaps I should investigate starting my own site….
January 20th, 2007 at 1:18 amSorry rachel dear, but assassinate is spelled correctly with ass at the beginning. Look up words before you accuse others of spelling incorrectly.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:19 amHow can you tell anymore with all the names you use. Can you please add me to your list….please.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:21 amNope. it’s gone again.
And so am I.
I have it archived. Perhaps I’ll put in on Dailykos.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:22 amIn dictionary: as.sas.si.nate > assassinate.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:24 am#79 zooey
January 20th, 2007 at 1:28 amThis is the sort of thing TP is supposed to be working on right?
It’s too late for this nonsense – I am going to bed.
This is the sort of thing TP is supposed to be working on right?
It’s too late for this nonsense – I am going to bed.
Comment by Marie
Yep!
January 20th, 2007 at 1:31 am103 ?
January 20th, 2007 at 1:36 amHas anyone of the regulars seen “rachel kinnard ” post in here before today?
January 20th, 2007 at 1:37 amJay,
January 20th, 2007 at 1:41 amNot everything is Bush and Rove. the Clintons are dirty also. Hate to pop your paranoid bubble!
Is that a threat!
January 20th, 2007 at 1:41 amZooey > Do they allow PCs at mental institutions? Just wondering where the hell some of these goofy trolls are posting from > lol.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:44 amBob > ask other posters on here, because I am NOT a supporter of Hillary Clinton, but she is not involved in this smear of Sen. Obama!
January 20th, 2007 at 1:45 amIt’s getting beyond that. She is seriously mentally unbalanced. She started this crap about 3 weeks ago and it’s been constant ever since.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:47 amJudd needs to delete posts that are completely crazy on the threads. He needs to just say: “Deleted by TP staff” or something like that.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:48 amHas anyone of the regulars seen “rachel kinnard †post in here before today?
Comment by JTitor
It’s the same one it’s been these last couple of weeks.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:51 amZooey > Do they allow PCs at mental institutions? Just wondering where the hell some of these goofy trolls are posting from > lol.
Comment by Jay Randal
Oy! Why do you think I’d know!?
January 20th, 2007 at 1:52 amAs I thought. Thanks
January 20th, 2007 at 1:54 amJudd needs to delete posts that are completely crazy on the threads. He needs to just say: “Deleted by TP staff†or something like that.
Comment by Jay Randal — January 20, 2007 @ 1:48 am
They did last night about 10:00 pacific. I was reading the craziness then it was gone from every thread.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:56 amAnti-First Amendment S.1 Passes Congress
By Kurt Nimmo | January 19, 2007
It was bad enough George Bush Senior found it necessary to blame bloggers for creating what he deems an “adversarial and ugly climate†(never mind his particular bit of ugliness in Iraq more than a decade ago, eventually resulting in the murder of more than a million people), last month we had the Manchurian candidate, John McCain, introducing legislation “that would fine blogs up to $300,000 for offensive statements, photos and videos posted by visitors on comment boards, effectively nixing the open exchange of ideas on the Internet, providing a lethal injection for unrestrained opinion, and acting as the latest attack tool to chill freedom of speech on the world wide web.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:02 amRemember, just exchange the word Muslim for the word Jew and exchange 2007 for 1938.
You’ll get the picture.
-GSD
January 20th, 2007 at 2:04 amZooey > just asking since you are on here. rachel could be Santo and that troll would say one day it’s male, then female, so a mental patient or someone who should be one anyways. I find it strange to post the same thing on every thread, and announce a list of people to ignore, then converses with them?
January 20th, 2007 at 2:04 amSo JTitor you are saying the Democrats passed McCain’s anti-blog bill?
January 20th, 2007 at 2:06 amIt would be nice if the comment #s were left in place, even when the comment itself has been deleted. Makes it easier to cross reference posts by #.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:06 amVerbal > I wrote a email to Judd to do exactly that, to leave the post number and poster name, time, and date. But delete the content of the post putting “Deleted by TP Staff” or something like that or whatever.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:11 amJay,
That’s not Santo. Santo’s first language was not English, and Santo was the queen of the one-line non sequitor. She always called me Kapo — don’t know why. Posting the same thing on each thread is pretty damned annoying.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:16 amWell Zooey at times Santo posted differently, so the whole thing of being a Latino could have been an act. Maybe this troll is paid to be crazy on TP threads, because it does change the subject and makes the thread look stupid for everybody.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:20 amBig Papa… If you’re still around. Are you from Washington? (the state, that is)
January 20th, 2007 at 2:23 amJay,
January 20th, 2007 at 2:24 amThis story is a Clinton smear. Sice this is a Pro-Clinton site, of course they won’t blame her. Hiallary s behindd this. Of course you think Bush is the center of the universe so you think it’s him.
You suffer from BDS(Bush Derangement Syndrome)!
Bob lol > well you must suffer from “Defend Bush no matter what crap he does syndrome.” Hillary is NOT behind the smear of Obama, because doing that would piss off the entire Congressional Black Caucus membership who she needs to get nominated for president. Karl Rove is behind the smear because he wants Hillary and Barack to fight each other.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:52 amTest
January 20th, 2007 at 3:30 amShe always called me Kapo — don’t know why. Posting the same thing on each thread is pretty damned annoying.
January 20th, 2007 at 3:31 amComment by Zooey
Perhaps because you are the boss around, Zoo. Capo as in Il Capo di Napoli… :)
I’ve tried to post this before but the filter keeps blocking it.
Here is a website that links to other blogs with good analysis of the so-called Clinton camp smear campaign against Barack Obama, as well as a link to the original story:
http://www.memeorandum.com/070118/p91#a070118p91
January 20th, 2007 at 3:35 amI wonder what I have to do in order to get the link past the spam filter… hhmm….
January 20th, 2007 at 3:37 amLet’s try the Hot Air link first:
After the beatings Dennis Prager and Virgil Goode took over Keith Ellison, Hillary’s suddenly going to turn around and accuse the golden boy of being a Manchurian candidate? I don’t buy it. It’s too soon, too nasty, and too clumsy, and her people would be keeping this kind of oppo research a much better secret if it were true.
I’m calling bullshinola.
January 20th, 2007 at 3:39 amReport: Hillary preparing to play the Muslim card on Obama
Now the link to The Moderate Voice:
So Insight Magazine, the magazine associated with The Washington Times, has inside, stellar Democratic sources? [...]
January 20th, 2007 at 3:44 amWhomever uses these kinds of tactics loses this voter’s vote. If anything, it means yours truly will listen and consider ever more carefully whatever Ms. Clinton and Obama suggest. Why? Because someone clearly considers them a threat and is out to get and apparently smear them.
Is Hillary Clinton Really Going After Obama?
It worked! Cool… ;-)
January 20th, 2007 at 3:51 amAs a scholar on the asassination [sic] of President Kennedy I must tell you in all kindness that asassinate [sic] has only one s in the first part.
Comment by rachel kinnardi — January 20, 2007 @ 1:14 am
Well, now you really have made an ass of yourself -as if any doubt remained.
It’s assassination, and assassinate.
I am no scholar in anyone’s assassination. I do, however, know how to spell the word.
Here’s your sign….
January 20th, 2007 at 4:05 amHave I earned my place in The List (TM) yet? Have I?
January 20th, 2007 at 4:15 am122 – While I’m NOT an attorney, and this legislation and the LDA is a lot of reading. My first reading and others so far is:
Section 220. Disclosure of Paid Efforts to Stimulate Grassroots Lobbying. S. 1 would amend the definition of “lobbying activities†in the LDA (2 U.S.C. 1602) to include paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying but to not include grassroots lobbying. The legislation provides definitions for “grassroots lobbying,†“paid efforts to stimulate grassroots lobbying,†“paid attempt to influence the general public or segments thereof,†and “grassroots lobbying firm.†The legislation also identifies who is considered a member of a registrant entity. (See legislation for definitions.)
My understanding for instance, blogs that take donations or parent companies of blogs that take donations that are political in nature and influence the general public may be considered a “grassroots lobbying firm.†So, if you can prove that a particular blog is a “grassroots lobbying firm”, then the individual content “blogs” are the “statement or representation”, thus liable under the LDA and False Statements Accountability Act of 1996.
LDA and False Statements Accountability Act of 1996
The False Statements Accountability Act of 1996, amending 18 U.S.C. § 1001, makes it a crime knowingly and willfully (1) to falsify, conceal or cover up a material fact by trick, scheme or device; (2) to make any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or (3) to make or use any false writing or document knowing it to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry; with respect to matters within the jurisdiction of the legislative, executive, or judicial branch. The False Statements Accountability Act does not assign any responsibilities to the Clerk and Secretary.
I hope I’m wrong.
January 20th, 2007 at 4:58 amDear Tp Staff,
Is their anything more that can be done by you and your posters to make me more comfortable in my stay here at TP?
They seem to be full of vitriol and hatred for one another and the fervor is at a fever pitch and well, to be honest, some are just down right rude and nasty here at TP.
I dont feel like I am getting my moneys worth as a taxpaying United States citizen.
I hope you will look into this slight at your earliest convenience.
I paid for this and I am not getting my moneys worth.
I demand recompense.
Somehow until then I will manage to muddle through, but this blogging hobby is starting to become a burden and well you know, I just think you could try harder to make me more comfortable here since after all,it is my hard earned tax dollars funding this site. I just dont feel you are doing enough to make my stay here amiable and pleasurable like your ad stated on the box. Truth in advertising is the law.
I will forgive this mishap this time, but in the future please look into and perhaps sponsor starter academic programs for a select few posters here, perhaps offer simple courses like:
Note – 1 semester equals 6 months
1) People Skills 101 – 1 semester
2) How to Debate and Win! – I II III IV – 4 semesters
3) Know When to Say When – I II III IV – 4 semesters
4) The Basics of Ebb and Flow – I II III IV – 4 semesters
5) Priciples of Sharing – I II III IV – 4 semesters
6) Gift of Knowledge – I II III IV – 4 semesters
7) Communications for the Masses -I II III IV – 4 semesters
I will look forward to your reply in a memo here.
January 20th, 2007 at 6:23 amDear Tp Staff,
Is their anything more that can be done by you and your posters to make me more comfortable in my stay here at TP?
They seem to be full of vitriol and hatred for one another and the fervor is at a fever pitch and well, to be honest, some are just down right rude and nasty here at TP.
I dont feel like I am getting my moneys worth as a taxpaying United States citizen.
I hope you will look into this slight at your earliest convenience.
I paid for this and I am not getting my moneys worth.
I demand recompense.
Somehow until then I will manage to muddle through, but this blogging hobby is starting to become a burden and well you know, I just think you could try harder to make me more comfortable here since after all,it is my hard earned tax dollars funding this site. I just dont feel you are doing enough to make my stay here amiable and pleasurable like your ad stated on the box. Truth in advertising is the law.
I will forgive this mishap this time, but in the future please look into and perhaps sponsor starter academic programs for a select few posters here, perhaps offer simple courses like:
Note – 1 semester equals 6 months
1) People Skills 101 – 1 semester
2) How to Debate and Win! – I II III IV – 4 semesters
3) Know When to Say When – I II III IV – 4 semesters
4) The Basics of Ebb and Flow – I II III IV – 4 semesters
5) Priciples of Sharing – I II III IV – 4 semesters
6) Gift of Knowledge – I II III IV – 4 semesters
7) Communications for the Masses -I II III IV – 4 semesters
I will look forward to your reply in a memo here.
January 20th, 2007 at 6:23 amDear Tp Staff,
Is their anything more that can be done by you and your posters to make me more comfortable in my stay here at TP?
They seem to be full of vitriol and hatred for one another and the fervor is at a fever pitch and well, to be honest, some are just down right rude and nasty here at TP.
I dont feel like I am getting my moneys worth as a taxpaying United States citizen.
I hope you will look into this slight at your earliest convenience.
I paid for this and I am not getting my moneys worth.
I demand recompense.
Somehow until then I will manage to muddle through, but this blogging hobby is starting to become a burden and well you know, I just think you could try harder to make me more comfortable here since after all,it is my hard earned tax dollars funding this site. I just dont feel you are doing enough to make my stay here amiable and pleasurable like your ad stated on the box. Truth in advertising is the law.
I will forgive this mishap this time, but in the future please look into and perhaps sponsor starter academic programs for a select few posters here, perhaps offer simple courses like:
Note – 1 semester equals 6 months
1) People Skills 101 – 1 semester
2) How to Debate and Win! – I II III IV – 4 semesters
3) Know When to Say When – I II III IV – 4 semesters
4) The Basics of Ebb and Flow – I II III IV – 4 semesters
5) Priciples of Sharing – I II III IV – 4 semesters
6) Gift of Knowledge – I II III IV – 4 semesters
7) Communications for the Masses -I II III IV – 4 semesters
I will look forward to your reply in a memo here.
January 20th, 2007 at 6:23 amThis attempt at smearing Barak Obama and then blaming Hillary Clinton should be transparent to anyone but the subscribers to Neo-conservatism. And even if they see through it, the Neo-conscripts would just think it was good strategy.
Karl Rove has to be behind this pseudo-plausible misinformation. Karl Rove and his minions don’t care two sh*ts about democracy. But they love to play the game of politics. I don’t say this lightly but Karl Rove should go back into the sewers and reunite with his long lost rat family.
I wish this Bush Administration the worst. How does Bush sleep at night. Don’t the lies haunt him? I hear he sleeps pretty well. You, George Walker Bush, are President of the United States of America. You are not working in middle management at marketing firm. You are responsible for keeping those who work under you are to uphold their position in office with competency and lord, god, allah, buddha willing, honesty. When you get exposed for the fraud you are you still going to have that awful smarmy smirk when they put you in handcuffs. Sleep well, Mr. Bush.
January 20th, 2007 at 7:31 am#2: I couldn’t DISAGREE with you more regarding the name Obama! In fact, due to the similarity in the spelling of his name with Osama, Americans will clearly make the distinction and make it immediately. Please give the american public who was wiser and more moral than the Congressional members who voted “yes” to give a demonic maniac unchecked power to engage us in a criminal war some credit, please! The vast majority of Americans (over 50%) and the rest of the world said “no” to war in Iraq EVEN WITH THE STRONG SUSPICION THAT THEY HAD WMD’S and that’s saying something huge.
If given the fact that the WMD theory was totally fabricated and cherry picked, the numbers would have been overwhelmingly negative about occupying another country for no reason.
So, when you speak of the man who will probably become our next President or Vice President, please do so with the clear distinction that he empitomizes the absolute ANTITHESIS of one who bears a name similar to his.
January 20th, 2007 at 8:28 amDear Tp Staff,
Is their anything more that can be done by you and your posters to make me more comfortable in my stay here at TP?
They seem to be full of vitriol and hatred for one another and this fervor is at a fever pitch and well, to be honest, some of them are just down right rude and nasty here at TP. I think they know whom they are.
I dont feel like I am getting my moneys worth as a taxpaying United States citizen.
I hope you will look into this slight at your earliest convenience.
I paid for this and I am not getting my moneys worth.
I demand compensation for your lack of goodwill toward your fellow man.
I will accept payment in the form of cooperation and a general feeling of goodwill from your regular posters.
I expect these demands to be met and to resume immediately.
If this is not recieved, other forms of compensation will be sought and recieved.
Somehow until then I will manage to muddle through, but this blogging hobby is starting to become a burden and well you know, I just think you could try harder to make me more comfortable here since after all,it is my hard earned tax dollars funding this site. I just dont feel you are doing enough to make my stay here amiable and pleasurable like your ad stated on the box. Truth in advertising is the law.
I will forgive this mishap this time, but in the future please look into and perhaps sponsor starter academic programs for a select few posters here, perhaps offer simple courses like:
Note – 1 semester equals 6 months
1) People Skills 101 – 1 semester
2) How to Debate and Win! – I II III IV – 4 semesters
3) Know When to Say When – I II III IV – 4 semesters
4) The Basics of Ebb and Flow – I II III IV – 4 semesters
5) Priciples of Sharing – I II III IV – 4 semesters
6) Gift of Knowledge – I II III IV – 4 semesters
7) Communications for the Masses -I II III IV – 4 semesters
I will look forward to your reply in a memo here.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:15 am#143 – Dear Senator Ted Stevens (of the Bridge to Nowhere Fame?)
I find your post (if, in fact, it is really you) quite beguiling to say the least. It’s so large of you to “forgive the mishap this time” – as though the posters here at TP are so lowly and you so mighty that you will look down long enough to “forgive them”. How self-righteous can you be? It’s certainly not up to you to forgive anyone about anything; in fact, the reverse is more accurate….the taxpayers who provide your salary might find it in their heart to someday forgive your buffoonery in sponsoring the bridge to nowhere????
. The last time I looked this country still exercised the right of free speech so I take particular umbrage with your chastisement of anyone for anything said or done. Are you that guilty yourself (*or paranoid perhaps) that you would take the comment of a poster on a blog thread as a personal attack?
Surely the decades you’ve spent in the corrupt world of politics has thickened your skin adequately to wish to remain in office where bridges to nowhere are bundled into bills to provide critical aid to Katrina victims????
Surely you’ve participated in pork barrel spending – initiating bills for your lobbyist friends? Your voting record speaks volumes for itself. And yet you find the comment of a poster on a blog to be intimidating or otherwise off color? Isn’t this a bit out of sequence – you forgiving another american when you’re the one in office and held responsible for your actions as a public servant who takes a paycheck directly from the pockets of the taxpayers?
I suspect that you’ve been around the block a bit too long, Sir Stevens, and your note bespeaks of one who seems to be able to “dish it out” but “can’t take it himself”. That’s when one knows it’s time to throw in the proverbial political towel. From what I’ve witnessed of your voting record & political chicanery, your retirement from public office is long overdue.
BTW, no one is forcing you to come to TP to read or post a comment. The way I see it at least there’s one shred of “civil rights” still alive in this country of ours in the form of freedom of speech (no thanks to your party I must admit).
And while we’re on the topic of how your “hard earned dollars are funding this site”, perhaps you need to be reminded that your paycheck is paid by “our hard earned dollars” and you have failed in your job abysmally. Yes, it is our “hard earned dollars” which you’d like to fund a bridge to nowhere, to continue to fund a failed war in Iraq, and all of the other lobbyist-sponsored nonsense which you’ve supported. It is time you thought about not only your “hard earned dollars” but ours as well.
We, the taxpayers, pay your salary and you serve AT OUR pleasure. When you no longer serve the majority of the people, then you will be voted out of office. Continue to propose nonsensical, wasteful legislation and your time will come sooner than later.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:17 am#146 I see this was a spoof but it certainly makes Ted Stevens look like a buffoon and bring his political chicanery to the fore.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:18 amBesides, I don’t think Ted Stevens’s fingers work well enough these days to type….that is, if he ever learned to type. I presume not.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:24 amIn other news, and since this it the top thread, this goes here:
Brown: Party politics played role in Katrina response
POSTED: 1:56 a.m. EST, January 20, 2007
NEW YORK (AP) — Party politics played a role in decisions over whether to take federal control of Louisiana and other areas affected by Hurricane Katrina, former FEMA director Michael Brown said Friday.
Some in the White House suggested only Louisiana should be federalized because it was run by a Democrat, Gov. Kathleen Blanco, Brown told a group of graduate students at a lecture on politics and emergency management at Metropolitan College of New York.
Brown said he had recommended to President Bush that all 90,000 square miles along the Gulf Coast affected by the hurricane be federalized, making the federal government in charge of all agencies responding to the disaster.
“Unbeknownst to me, certain people in the White House were thinking we had to federalize Louisiana because she’s a white, female Democratic governor and we have a chance to rub her nose in it,” he said.
Brown declined to say who in the White House had argued for only taking control of Louisiana, but said that he’d later learned of the situation through Blanco’s office and from other officials on the federal level.
Blanco reacted sharply on hearing what Brown had said.
“This is exactly what we were living but could not bring ourselves to believe. Karl Rove was playing politics while our people were dying,” Blanco said through a spokeswoman, referring to President Bush’s top political strategist. “The federal effort was delayed, and now the public knows why. It’s disgusting.”
Eryn Witcher, a White House spokeswoman, denied Brown’s claims.
“It is unfortunate that Mike Brown is still hurling false statements about the events surrounding Hurricane Katrina,” she said. “The only consideration made by the administration at the time of this tragedy and since are those in the best interests of the citizens of the Gulf region.” …
January 20th, 2007 at 10:28 amAhhh
See what I mean TP? Look at all those duplicate posts!
They all went through this series of pipes and tubes and got all balled up and dammit somebody needs to do something.
Fix these tubes like the oild drillers in AK do will you?
January 20th, 2007 at 10:34 amHow hard can it be?
I will send a drilling crew down to help if you need that.
#150 Not only was Rove playing politics; Bush was on vacation and waited 4 days to respond to this human crisis and tragedy. For this and the rest of his culpable negligence, he needs to be impeached!
January 20th, 2007 at 10:35 amThe pope was a NAZI when he was 14 , old enough that that should have kept him from being the pope. But there’s a certain group of people who no matter what they do it’s OK with the RIGHT. Rush, Colter , Bush ,Cheny, Hasert , Foley , Delay , Reed, Norquist, I could go on forever it seems.
January 20th, 2007 at 10:41 amBut it’s not the same for another group of people whose crimes sre actually minor when compared to the theirs. So now a 6 year old is being labeled somehow connected to TERROISM.
ENOUGH !!!!!!
sOME PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID THEY’LL BELEIVE ANYTHING ,
THATS WHY THEY VOTED FOR BUSH!!!!!
Hillary Clinton says, “I’m in”
Just about every political observer has been waiting for this one.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has made it official, announcing Saturday that she’ll form an exploratory committee to run for president in 2008. The New York Democrat revealed the decision, the first official step in seeking her party’s nomination, on her website: “I’m in. And I’m in to win.â€
January 20th, 2007 at 10:59 amhttp://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/01/hillary_clinton_1.html
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Enough with the muslim angle, what about Obama playing Del in the Crying Game?
January 20th, 2007 at 11:02 amThis paragraph from Kucinich’s plan bears repeating:
It is simply not credible to maintain that one opposes the war and yet continues to fund it. This contradiction runs as a deep fault line through our politics, undermining public trust in the political process and in those elected to represent the people. If you oppose the war, then do not vote to fund it.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:02 amI see another post of mine disappeared.
maybe a link will suffice: http://kucinich.us/node/1803
A plan by a Democratic Candidate for President to end Bush’s War.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:07 amHendler, what about the fact that you suspend your “Christianity?”
January 20th, 2007 at 11:08 amnow you see it, now you don’t. currently at #155 in our daily count-down
(Comment by Briseadh na Faire — January 20, 2007 @ 10:57 am)
And here I was, all set to re-post it, one paragraph at a time….
January 20th, 2007 at 11:15 amComment by Spudge_Boy — January 20, 2007 @ 11:06 am
i think it was LORA, who corrected hintler 3 times now about that post – the character’s name is “Dil”, for one thing, played by Jaye Davidson… the other connotations are relevant only to hintler…
January 20th, 2007 at 11:16 amJason,
The character Name was Dil, not Del, and it was play by Jaye Davidson Please shut up about it already.
http://www.imdb.com has all the answers you need bub.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:23 amAnd here I was, all set to re-post it, one paragraph at a time….
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — January 20, 2007 @ 11:15 am
please don’t… maybe an outstanding paragraph or 2…
January 20th, 2007 at 11:25 ambut i think that link is enough…
krazny – after reading the bio of jaye davidson at imdb and wiki, i realize what hintler is getting at… trying to start his own silly rumor…
January 20th, 2007 at 11:30 amwonder if it’s taken hold at redstate et al…
#103,
Shit posted in my name when I am not even in town and then get blamed for it. Who needs it.
rachel kinnardi
Funny, this is the first time I have seen her name.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:31 amBig Papa… If you’re still around. Are you from Washington? (the state, that is)
Comment by Old Hippie Woman #127
No ma’am,
I DID live there for a time (Tacoma), many many years ago while stationed at Fort Lewis for a while…
…Loved Seattle (my bff lived in Queen Anne Hill)…
…and the underground club scene years ago (Seawind was a wonderful jazz group), and Stuart Anderson’s Black Angus was the “in” spot…
…but that was long ago and far, far away from the world in which I now live…
January 20th, 2007 at 11:36 amComment by katy — January 20, 2007 @ 11:25 am
ok. I usually don’t post lengthy articles, but I couldn’t see cutting this one down. Kucinich is right on point. He deserves a close look.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:38 amIf you had come here from outer space and logged into Think Progress for the first time,you wouldn’t even know that Hillary Clinton even existed.
Has anyone else ever noticed that TP. never posts anything about her;or did I miss that one?
Gore/Obama ‘08.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:39 amback on topic.
OK, I am not a big fan of the Deomcrats in their current form, but I do disagree with the little name game the Republicans look like they are going to play.
Barak Hussain Obama(sic)
Big deal.
But keep in mind, now that Hillary has come out to play, anything that the Republicans do will be childsplay and we all know it.
Personally, I prefer Obama.
But I give Hil point for convoying through Baghdad from Baghdad Intl. Airport to the Greenzone. She may be a bitch, but she ain’t a coward!
January 20th, 2007 at 11:40 amBut I give Hil point for convoying through Baghdad
Comment by hacker bob
Did you actually see the convoy?
January 20th, 2007 at 11:47 amI hope she liked Baghdad,because she’ll have us there for years too.
“Karl Rove was playing politics while our people were dying,â€
-excerpt Gov Blanco of Louisiana-
Comment by Briseadh na Faire #150
…Karl Rove’s Karma…
…demands he be rewarded for his evil…
…along with his co-conspirators…
January 20th, 2007 at 11:51 amI see that Karl Rove laid a stink bomb on Friday to smear Obama and blame it on Hillary Clinton. Over the weekend the stinky smear will grow bigger and by Monday Rove hopes that Hillary and Obama will punch each others lights out in front of the press.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:57 am…Capo as in Il Capo di Napoli… :)
Comment by Juan C
Ok, I see now. Oy.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:06 pmThanks, Juan!
Enough with the muslim angle, what about Obama playing Del in the Crying Game?
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
What the f*ck is wrong with you? That is not only racist, it’s STUPID.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:07 pmComment by Jay Randal — January 20, 2007 @ 11:57 am
Did anyone else notice that only Reich wingers were reporting this?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:08 pmThis has Rove/Fox skank all over it.
“I’m in. And I’m in to win.â€
This really upsets me. More politicians playing politics and spewing tough, senseless, western phrases about victory while thousands of dead bodies lie around without justice. NObody cares about justice anymore. Everybody talks about winning, victory, defeat, presidency, congress, fundings, impeachment, patriotism, etc…All politics, no justice anywhere around.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:13 pmObama is my favorite candidate – I’ve wanted him elected since last year when I heard about him and his values.
But Rachel is pointing out a good talking point that the repugs are bringing out as much as they can – Obama is, indeed, one letter away from Osama. I see Faux asking viewers “Do you want the name ‘Hussein’ on our list of presidents?’ They only know cosmetics, Faux news, and this is one of them.
The best thing for Obama to do is to stay with his name, keep going to church, and fight the good fight. I may be an atheist, but I prefer a true christian to a valueless whorish repug.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:15 pmThat is not only racist, it’s STUPID.
Comment by Zooey — January 20, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
it’s also homophobic… but, imagine that…
January 20th, 2007 at 12:18 pmLet the swiftboaters have at Obama. It will make him a better candidate, as he uses his prodigious verbal skills to defend himself in terms that most Americans can relate to. A Backfire only works if you Fire Back.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:19 pmShe may be a bitch, but she ain’t a coward!
Comment by hacker bob
I don’t want Sen Clinton to run for the presidency, but I think she’s a fine woman. If you’re going to call her a bitch, go ahead and make it Bitch — with a capital B.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmComment by Xbot — January 20, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
so much older and wiser than your years…
January 20th, 2007 at 12:20 pmi hope you have LOTS of friends who think the same way…
hope for the future…
But Rachel is pointing out a good talking point that the repugs are bringing out as much as they can – Obama is, indeed, one letter away from Osama.
I don’t see it happening. The first time they tried it, they’d be called on it. Conflating Obama/Osama at this late date would only antagonize voters more.
Perhaps before the internet it might have worked, but today? No way.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pmReagan, Bush, Clinton gave us NAFTA. They are elitists global corporation puppets that only look after the best interest of the 3% have mores. Vote Gore or Edwards.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:27 pmSh*t, Im a in a bad mood today: my coffee tastes like vomit. Dont know why. And as I wake up, the same sh*tty world: poor people dying for rich people.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:32 pmBad timing for Hillary Clinton to announce running for president, as Obama gets trashed on FOX News, and the press claims Hillary is the one behind the smear of Barack. This is a very clever Karl Rove attack on both of them, but will they fight back against the GOP swiftboaters, or instead fight each other like Rove hopes they might do?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:37 pmThe trolls better watch out for Juan!
Hey, it’s -1 C here and we have several more inches of snow. How is it there? :)
January 20th, 2007 at 12:38 pmHey ya’ll — FRESH THREAD ABOVE!
January 20th, 2007 at 12:40 pm“I’m in. And I’m in to win.â€
This really upsets me.[...] NObody cares about justice anymore.
Comment by Juan C — January 20, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
yes, they do… we do, you do…
i’m with you, almost the same reaction to her statement…
but taken for the politial rhetoric that it is, understandable…
must be a cloudy day where you are… wanna trade places?
January 20th, 2007 at 12:42 pmsnow comin’ my way…
i also wondered about that timing, jay randal…
January 20th, 2007 at 12:43 pmIt’s strange katy, but politics in DC is nasty with Rove and Bush there.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:47 pmAs Hillary and Bush call for escalation of Bush wars, Bush wanting more troops in Iraq and Hillary wanting more troops in Afghanistan, Hillary says forget about the troops, look at me, I’m running to be the next global corporate elitist puppet, that will work hard for the have mores.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:48 pmHey, it’s -1 C here and we have several more inches of snow. How is it there? :)
Comment by Zooey
must be a cloudy day where you are… wanna trade places?
snow comin’ my way…
Comment by katy
I dont envy you. I once applied for a 1 year program in Sweden. I was accepted but didnt finish my Bachelor´s final project. Good thing…I wouldnt have been able to withstand so much cold.
Thanks, katy. I hope so.
Here in Mexico the basic food is the corn. Tortillas are made with corn. Tortillas are like bread, you eat almost everything with them. Well, the government just raised the price of the kilogram of tortillas to a dollar (more or less). Lets say that the minimum wage here is 4 dollars a DAY, 30% of mexicans survive with 2 dollars a day. So yo can imagine how that raise affects million of mexicans…and nobody does nothing. Mexicans are such a noble or stupid people, I dont know. There should be a national strike, like in France, everybody on the streets to let the government know that the people is in charge, not those f*ckers with fancy suits and expensive cars.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:55 pmThe times they are a changin. Independent voters have become disillusioned with Bush and Rove. And it will be most difficult for Rove to reillusion them. Look at McCains low numbers in New Hampshire. Once you loose the TRUST of the American people, you’ve lost it all. The 2008 election is the Democrats to lose.
January 20th, 2007 at 12:56 pmJuan C:
Whatever happened down there with the presidential election? Last I heard, Calderon had basically stolen the election, using tactics eerily similar to the tactics used here in the States in 2000 and 2004, and Obrador had vowed to continue his resistance to what he maintained was an illegal government.
We don’t get much in the way of actual news any more in the States…can you fill us in?
January 20th, 2007 at 1:19 pmJuan,
That’s disgusting. Was there a shortage? Or the government just raised the price because they could.
No wonder you’re in a bad mood.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:21 pmFrankly, I’m going to move, act and see as I feel it. I am way past “appealing” to the weakest link or least common denominator. I don’t care if the candidate is butt ugly and named Winni the Pooh. If he/she says what I like hearing, I’m going to vote for the guy/gal. So, wise up, right-wingers. You’ve lost credability and forfeited the race already by crying wolf, lying through your teeth and pledging allegiance to your miserable selves. Who do you have to offer anyway? John McCain? Don’t Rove, Cheney and Bush have enough kiss prints on thier sorry asses, already?
January 20th, 2007 at 1:37 pmNever mind the GOP-Cons predilection for pederasty……..THAT GUY HAS A FUNNY NAME!!
Typical wingnut playground BS – does anyone notice it’s ALL THEY EVER DO??? IT’s all they have done since the Ray-gun campaign, and they’re sick enough people to think that it’s perfectly acceptable (when they do it, but not anyone else)
Let’s start it here and now…..who’s the GOP want to run? Doesn’t matter. I have heard from credible sources that that candidate is a pill-addled booze hound who prefers pre-pubescent girls, has had 5 marriages fail, was a coke dealer in college, and has had numerous homosexual encounters with a number of Middle Eastern nationals in D.C. sex clubs.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:39 pmHey, Tom- Is Howard Stern going to run on the Republican ticket? I hate the Republicans, but I’d vote for Howard. Talk about “getting back to basics”.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:46 pmWe don’t get much in the way of actual news any more in the States…can you fill us in?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Do you read spanish, Trip? If you do, watch regularly this magazine.
Ok. Yeah, we all know the elections were stolen. But they were stolen due to the incompetence of the “leftist” party in some degree. After the official outcome it was known that the nearest people to Obrador (leftist candidate) was responsible for inaction or accepting bribes in order to not counting votes or simply not attending to the counting process in 70% of the electoral posts.
Anyway, there was some attempt of protest from the “left” (I put the “”, cuz there is no left in Mexico. It is just a political party that speaks to the people but defends other corporate interests, as usual) in order to recount votes, etc. but in this country where the middle class doesnt care about the lower classes, it faded away. However, now people will realise who they voted for. And hopefully things will change. Now, Calderón is the official president, but he has no real popular support, nobody cares about him. Thats why he is flirting so much with the armed forces, becuz they will be supporting him by means of a more repressive policy.
January 20th, 2007 at 1:58 pmWas there a shortage? Or the government just raised the price because they could.
No wonder you’re in a bad mood.
Comment by Zooey
I personally dont eat tortillas, but I know that is the basic diet for millions of people, sadly.
The government says there is a shortage, thats why we have to import corn, which is a bad quality corn, etc. The thing is that the government supposes the mexican monopoly of corn: two corporations who decide whats the price. The same old trick of free trade: they tell you private companies will reduce the prices…the corporations have an agreement and they increase the prices…and who pays? The people, as always.
January 20th, 2007 at 2:07 pmI don’t want Sen Clinton to run for the presidency, but I think she’s a fine woman.
Comment by Zooey
How do you kow? Do you know her?
Just asking.
Sh*t, Im a in a bad mood today: my coffee tastes like vomit
Comment by Juan C
Are you drinking Kopi Luwak?
January 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pmHow do you kow? Do you know her?
Just asking.
Comment by hacker bob
It’s just what I’ve seen of her personality. I don’t have to agree with her on everything to think she’s a good person. And just because I think she might be a good person, doesn’t mean I want her for president.
I know her like you know me. And you think I’m a fine woman, don’t you? :)
January 20th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI know her like you know me. And you think I’m a fine woman, don’t you? :)
Comment by Zooey
Well…………
Seriously, I think, from what I have seen, that Clinton seems to have the best interests of the country in mind. But what she thinks is best for the country may not be what the rest of the country thinks is best.
I have met Sen. Clinton and she seems to be sincere. But at the same time, she seems to be like every other politician. She will look out for herself first, then the big money that got her into office, and then, if she has time, the rest of us.
Yes, you seem like a fine person, even if you didn’t know about the tortilla shortage in Mexico.
January 20th, 2007 at 3:50 pmYes, you seem like a fine person, even if you didn’t know about the tortilla shortage in Mexico.
Comment by hacker bob
SORRY!!
**runs sobbing from the room**
January 20th, 2007 at 4:02 pmhacker bob and Zoo: Oy!
January 20th, 2007 at 4:21 pmJuan C,
Even I, the narrow minded Republican knew about the tortilla shortage..
Back to your Kopi Luwak! lol
Zooey, it is not your fault, you are to busy trying to get you an edumacation.
January 20th, 2007 at 4:25 pmZooey, it is not your fault, you are to busy trying to get you an edumacation.
Comment by hacker bob
You wouldn’t happen to be 69 years old and a retired judge in Idaho, would you?
My DAD says that! :-D
January 20th, 2007 at 6:06 pmPeople the smear gainst Obama is a Clinton tactic. The Clintons make Rove look like a school boy. Watch more dirt come from the Clinton camp.
January 20th, 2007 at 7:52 pmJay Randal who’s a Clinton supporter will blame Bush. His BDS is affecting him!
i think it was LORA, who corrected hintler 3 times now about that post – the character’s name is “Dilâ€, for one thing, played by Jaye Davidson… the other connotations are relevant only to hintler…
Comment by katy
Yes, Katy, I already corrected him on this point. But for one who claims to be a Stanford or Ivy League graduate, Jason is an awfully slow learner–not to mention incapable of giving up a stupid, sick joke. Maybe he is jealous that Barack Obama is a true graduate of two Ivy League schools: Columbia and Harvard.
January 20th, 2007 at 8:16 pmAnd as I pointed out to Jason MH already, even if Obama had actually appeared in “The Crying Game” under the name Jaye Davidson, that was acting–not reality. How about the reality, Jason, of the frequent visits of gay hooker Jeff Gannon/James Guckert to the White House until his true identity was exposed?
#212/Bob: The Clintons make Rove look like a school boy.
Oh puuuleeasssee … what kind of aggravated brain aneurism made you produce such a statement?
Apart from the fact that Rove already looks like a schoolboy. Also, he is employed by schoolyard bullies.
January 20th, 2007 at 11:12 pmSo far rachel b has taken on the names of:
January 20th, 2007 at 11:58 pmrachel kinnardi
ForTruth
Texas Young Republicans
Bob
hacker bob
Jacqueline Grant (probably posted in the wrong blog by accident)
rachel b
rachel b blair
porcupiny
Gregor Samsa
Santo
JTitor,
hacker bob is not rachel. It is robert.
I decided to use it as my moniker after rachel labled me that the other day. that is unless there has been some recent name-jacking. I notice ForTruth is on your list as well. He has been a poster here for a while. Same with Gregor Samsa.
We do not troll like rachel. We actually discuss and debate.
Hope that cleared some of it up.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:26 amJTitor,
That I recall, my name was hijacked once. I am not sure it was rachel.
I don’t know about other threads, but all the comments so far in this one on my name I did post them.
Bob,
Thanks for the help ;-)
January 21st, 2007 at 3:08 amThey’ll be coming after Obama for the next two years straight. All they have is his name to make fun of.
January 21st, 2007 at 9:11 amOnce a muslim always a muslim. Osama, Obama – no differnce. I will laugh when they come to cut off your head you ignorant a$$hole’s. You democrats are really stupid!! You’ll see…..
January 21st, 2007 at 12:59 pmTo Bryce,
Most Muslims are not radical head-choppers, and Sharia law isn’t practiced in most Muslim countries. Have you heard of any Muslim terrorists hailing, for example, from Turkey, Tunisia, Malaysia or Bangladesh? I didn’t think so.
To TP Administrator,
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 amI posted something very similar to this earlier, and it seems to have been deleted, though I broke no rules nor used any foul language, in contrast to #201, which remains as it is. Please explain.
This report is more likely to be from the same source as the Social Security scam of 1996, the Clinton camp. While it certainly is not beneath the right wing, the history of these types of smears are more cllosely associated with Ms. and Mr. Clinton that any one.
January 22nd, 2007 at 12:32 pmhttp://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Obama_2.htm
lets have an IQ test requirement before anyone can vote. This would guarentee a democratic victory because democrats/liberals are so smart and conservatives are so dumb. Not to mention Libs are so smart that they don’t even know that the Clintons are the owns who went after Obama on this. Please push this along with Voter ID cards. Pleeeeeeeeease. Someday you morons may actually do something like that. hahaha.
“if you are not a conservative by 40 you have no brain” Winston Churchhil
January 26th, 2007 at 4:21 pmThe man who shot the pope was from Turkey was he not, and I believe he was going to be released from jail around the time this new pope was going to visit.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5150018
January 26th, 2007 at 4:25 pm