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Rhetorical flourishes set to solve Mideast strife.

“Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice made a deal with Arab leaders this week: Washington will show an interest in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the Arabs will say they support the new U.S. strategy for Iraq,” Reuters reports. “But the actions on both sides of the deal are largely cosmetic or rhetorical, because the parties are either unable or unwilling to deliver, Arab analysts and diplomats say.”



46 Responses to “Rhetorical flourishes set to solve Mideast strife.”

  1. DenverOasis says:

    Bush’s legacy: Empty, Truthless Rhetoric


  2. TripMaster Monkey says:

    So to sum up, a lot of talk, and nothing of substance.

    In other words, S.O.P. for Condi.


  3. Fools on the Hill says:

    Oh Condi as a deal for everyone to lie. Isn’t that how all this madness began.


  4. Jay Severin has a small pen1s says:

    All this happenned while Condi was on a trip to sell weapons to Iran.


  5. rachel kinnardi says:

    Here is a list of the people I will converse with on this site. Anyone else who responds to any of my posts will be ignored without question.
    If you are on my ” no fly list ” any attempt to communicate with me will be wasted keystrokes on your part.

    The reasons for those who are included in my list are as follows.

    The short list: Reasons Why

    1) You are not up to speed with my intellect and political ability.
    2) You 9 times out of 10 add zero to the debate.
    3) When faced with bare facts you cannot defend, you resort to slanderous accusations.
    4) Your lack of viewing the ” Big Picture ” in politics is astounding to me and the public majority.
    5) I question your ability and motives at this thinktank and in life in general.
    6) You speak out of turn when I am in a heated debate with a particular poster.
    7) You come to the aid and comfort of the defenseless here with even more preposterous, nonfactual claims.
    8) When things do not quite go your way in a debate, you scream bloody murder for Judd and cry ” foul ”
    9) You defend policies the Democrats believe in because it is in ” vogue ” and is ” fashionable ” knowing full well it is not what is in your heart.
    10) You will twist facts, slander other posters with opposing ideas and ideals and generally engage in some form of ” group lynching ” if all does not go well for you.

    The ” no fly ” list:

    Note: Names on my ” no fly ” list are not to be construed in any particluar order.
    Note: I will append my list from time to time as the need arises.

    Here are the opening winners.
    I give you the ” Dirty Dozen ”

    1) Sy Bil
    2) ForTruth
    3) Trueblue
    4) Barfly
    5) Unbelievable
    6) Briseadh de faire
    7) VerbalKnit
    8) John Gilpins
    9) Krazny
    10) Robert
    11) Chimpeach
    12) DieNowForPeace

    I am open to any meaningful and thoughtful debate on any topic on this blog with anyone else with the exception of the above aforementioned.


  6. Zooey says:

    But the real question is this….did Condi manage to buy any fabulous shoes on her trip?


  7. Zooey says:

    Still speaking to me, rachel? I’m whelmed…


  8. katy says:

    OT – sort of… i just heard on rachel maddow that now
    JORDAN wants nukes… uuuuuuuhhhgh…


  9. Erroll says:

    It is long past the point that the people, if not the politicians, begin to examine the legality of this ill-conceived adeventure in Iraq. Last Monday, a military judge at Fort Lewis, Wa. all but doomed Lt. Watada’s chances at his court martial, and his hopes of receiving a fair trial, which will be coming up in February, when he ruled that the lieutenant’s defense team is not allowed to present evidence regarding the legality of the war. As a counterpoint to the military’s decision, a Citizens Hearing on the Legality of U.S. Actions in Iraq will be held this Friday and Saturday, Jan. 20 & 21 at Tacoma, Wa.

    Half of the Panel members are military veterans, as well as a government leader, religious leader, labor union member and health care worker. It will resemble that of a congressional hearing. Panelists will focus on the legality of war, whether the invasion of Iraq constituted a “crime against peace”, whether the military occupation of Iraq constituted a “crime against humanity” and whether individual soldiers have an obligation or duty to refuse unlawful orders that may lead to “war crimes.” Among those on the Panel who will be testifying are:

    Daniel Ellsberg- who leaked the Pentagon Papers
    Richard Falk- Professor Emeritus of International Law at Princeton
    Benjamin G. Davis- Associate Professor at Law, Univ. of Toledo and expert on the law of war
    Harvey Tharp- Former U.S. Navy Lt. and JAG stationed in Iraq
    Francis Boyle via video- Professor of International Law at the Univ. of Illinois
    Ann Wright- Retired Army Colonel and State Dept. Official
    Darrell Anderson & Geoffrey Millard- Members of IVAW [Iraq Veterans Against the War]

    It remains to be seen if the mainstream media, as well as the so-called liberal blogs, will see fit to cover this important event which hopes to shed light upon the legalities of the war/occupation in Iraq.


  10. Spudge_Boy says:

    rachel kinnardi,

    Please add me to your list.


  11. Sharon Cox says:

    GEEEEEs, I’m gone for awhile and come back to this……Who died and made this rachael person chalk monitor…..Put me on your list to sweet cheek’s, I’ve had enough of self made dictators with the bush regime…


  12. Jay Randal says:

    Condi Rice is a lousy Secretary of State, so she must resign in shame!


  13. katy says:

    sharon, it just showed up… around 7ish…
    must wait around for the TP crew to clock out…

    several different names, but one defining characteristic –
    the ability to trash the place… step around if need be…
    i’m taking a break, again…


  14. ForTruth says:

    Here is a list of the people I will converse with on this site.

    Comment by rachel kinnardi

    So is the list “will” or “won’t”? I don’t get it.


  15. ForTruth says:

    Rachel,

    I must commend you. You have done an excellent job of asserting yourself, taking some level of control, and generally breaking up that little annoying clique that was on here.


  16. Zooey says:

    Put me on your list to sweet cheek’s, I’ve had enough of self made dictators with the bush regime…
    Comment by Sharon Cox

    It’s certainly a hilarious twist — the troll making demands about who may and may not address it. Pffft.


  17. ForTruth says:

    That really was me.


  18. Zooey says:

    …generally breaking up that little annoying clique that was on here.
    Comment by ForTruth

    Insufferable toad.


  19. Jay Randal says:

    Troll making a list of people on here to ignore is pathetic. Go to RedState.com if you hate fellow TP posters!


  20. ForTruth says:

    Insufferable toad.

    Comment by Zooey

    Ribbit.


  21. Sharon Cox says:

    I’m the #1 witch on this site and I say toad…….Nose wiggling and zap….Done deal!…Blessings previous prince and all.


  22. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Rachel,

    I’m rather offended that I didn’t make your ‘no fly’ list.

    Please add me ASAP.


  23. Willy says:

    rachel kinnardi,

    First you write that your list is those you will converse with, then you say it is those you will not converse with. Amazing you can make this simple-minded mistake when you also wrote:

    1) You are not up to speed with my intellect

    I guess intellect “ain’t what it used to be”.

    Get off your high horse, arrogant rachel, and go away.


  24. Clyde the Ripper says:

    #11 rachel,

    Since I am not worthy of your list please pick a time and subject and I will be happy to accommodate you and test your debating skills. However, I do have one requirement: I refuse to enter into a battle of wits with an unarmed woman or even one only half armed as you seem to be.

    See you soon.


  25. ForTruth says:

    Rachel has a mental illness.


  26. Zooey says:

    Rachel has a mental illness.
    Comment by ForTruth

    Ok, does this mean you’re staying on the list, or getting dumped off the list?


  27. TripMaster Monkey says:

    ForTruth sez:

    Rachel has a mental illness.

    Just one?


  28. VerbalKint says:

    I proposed on another thread that we enshrine this thing as The List, in celebration of its importance to this web site (by important here, I mean of high entertainment value). Gregor Samsa has added the TM superscript, which I think is very cool. But poor Gregor got turned down when he asked to be added to The List (TM), even after I nominated him! So it isn’t easy to make the The List (TM), and I think that Zooey and Sharon and Gregor will just have to try harder. And get this! Rachel actually threatened to take Brisdeah na Faire off of the list! Simply for behaving! Sheesh


  29. ForTruth says:

    Ok, does this mean you’re staying on the list, or getting dumped off the list?

    Comment by Zooey

    Well i’m kinda disappointed she won’t talk to me. At first I thought I was in, then I’m out. Then she lets me in again to tell me I’m out.

    There’s your borderline.


  30. ForTruth says:

    Rachel,

    I can override your intellect in one-sentence increments.


  31. freebird9 says:

    So is this RACHEL’S BLOG now? and what do you all make of her arrogance? Some little “FREEP SHOW” that is posting non-stop nonsense.


  32. VerbalKint says:

    Calling all candidates for the list (TM), an opening has appeared in position #6. Applications are now being accepted.


  33. MrTimPA says:

    This Rachel person is really funny. Of course “she” posted her revised “list” – and there’s #6 that’s blank – a ghost poster? or a cloaked poster? hahaha – intellect indeed. Isn’t is past the trolls bedtimes? :)


  34. trueblue says:

    I know I am on The List.
    Sadly, I do not know how to properly write it.
    How does one get the lovely “tm” to appear that way?

    Thank you.
    Just want to abide by the rules.


  35. JTitor says:

    Rachel Kinnardi, Rachel b. Rachel b blair, procupiny, madashell, blair witch, linda blair….and the freak’n 20 other names that you go by….hey rachel hows your kid?

    Duh…mommy why do you spend so much time talking to the computer? I don’t understand mommy why you don’t pay any attention to me. You spend all your time at that place yelling at the computer…your scaring me mommy. Who’s Zooey and ForTruth mommy….why are they more important then me. Mommy come back………

    You crazy b!t@h! Please put me on your list.


  36. VerbalKint says:

    I know I am on The List.
    Sadly, I do not know how to properly write it.
    How does one get the lovely “tm” to appear that way?

    Thank you.
    Just want to abide by the rules.

    Comment by trueblue — January 19, 2007 @ 9:56 pm

    First, there are no rules.

    Gregor explained to me how to do it. Immediately following the word “List”, type a space, then put “TM” into parentheses.


  37. trueblue says:

    oooh!

    Thank you very much.

    :)


  38. katy says:

  39. katy says:

    oh! it worked! :-)


  40. JTitor says:

    Does it work for other stuff “TMP”


  41. Windup Merchant says:

    Kurdish Iraqi soldiers are deserting to avoid the conflict in Baghdad

    SULAIMANIYAH, Iraq – As the Iraqi government attempts to secure a capital city ravaged by conflict between Sunni and Shiite Muslim Arabs, its decision to bring a third party into the mix may cause more problems than peace.

    Kurdish soldiers from northern Iraq, who are mostly Sunnis but not Arabs, are deserting the army to avoid the civil war in Baghdad, a conflict they consider someone else’s problem.


  42. Windup Merchant says:

    Draft Law Keeps Central Control Over Oil in Iraq

    The law would also revive the Iraqi National Oil Company,


  43. Charlie "Buck" Owens says:

    Dear Tp Staff,

    Is their anything more that can be done by you and your posters to make me more comfortable in my stay here at TP?

    They seem to be full of vitriol and hatred for one another and this fervor is at a fever pitch and well, to be honest, some of them are just down right rude and nasty here at TP. I think they know whom they are.

    I dont feel like I am getting my moneys worth as a taxpaying United States citizen.
    I hope you will look into this slight at your earliest convenience.
    I paid for this and I am not getting my moneys worth.
    I demand compensation for your lack of goodwill toward your fellow man.
    I will accept payment in the form of cooperation and a general feeling of goodwill from your regular posters.
    I expect these demands to be met and to resume immediately.
    If this is not recieved, other forms of compensation will be sought and recieved.

    Somehow until then I will manage to muddle through, but this blogging hobby is starting to become a burden and well you know, I just think you could try harder to make me more comfortable here since after all,it is my hard earned tax dollars funding this site. I just dont feel you are doing enough to make my stay here amiable and pleasurable like your ad stated on the box. Truth in advertising is the law.

    I will forgive this mishap this time, but in the future please look into and perhaps sponsor starter academic programs for a select few posters here, perhaps offer simple courses like:

    Note – 1 semester equals 6 months

    1) People Skills 101 – 1 semester
    2) How to Debate and Win! – I II III IV – 4 semesters
    3) Know When to Say When – I II III IV – 4 semesters
    4) The Basics of Ebb and Flow – I II III IV – 4 semesters
    5) Priciples of Sharing – I II III IV – 4 semesters
    6) Gift of Knowledge – I II III IV – 4 semesters
    7) Communications for the Masses -I II III IV – 4 semesters

    I will look forward to your reply in a memo here.


  44. freebird9 says:

    “Buck Owens” and Rachel Kinnadi are nuts.

    Nuts “tm”


  45. katy says:

    freebird9 – how are you doing?

    use ( ) not ” ” … (i hope)…
    Nuts (TM)




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