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Five more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq.

By Faiz Shakir on Jan 20th, 2007 at 6:38 pm

Five more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq.

The U.S. military reported an “illegally armed militia group” attacked a provincial headquarters in the Shiite holy city of Karbala in southern Iraq, killing five American soldiers Saturday night.



150 Responses to “Five more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq.”

  1. unbelievable says:

    Seriously, Reid and Pelosi need to craft a letter demanding that either the Bush twins suit up and go to Iraq, or everyone else gets to come home – now…


  2. freebird9 says:

    Oh this just keeps getting worse and worse. So much for a ” new way forward”. These neocons are hurting us beyond belief.


  3. Zooey says:

    Bring the troops home.

    Impeach and imprison this administration.

    My condolences to the families of the wrongly dead.


  4. Juan C says:

    More commas…until one of them is a known one.


  5. Marie says:

  6. Your Conscience says:

    I DARE YOU TO ANSWER THIS, NEOCONS

    Let’s imagine that 4 years ago, you went to your boss or partners or board of directors with a plan for a project.
    Four years later, it turns out:
    - your project was based upon knowingly falsified data
    - your project has gone 10,000 % over its budget
    - your project has gotten over 2,030 of your employees killed and 21,000 injured
    - your project has no realistic end in sight
    - your project has exposed your company to virtually unlimited financial liability
    - your project has brought your company to impending bankruptcy.

    Against that backdrop, ask yourself this –
    if this was you,
    HOW FIRED WOULD YOU BE?


  7. trueblue says:

    NewsWeek Poll:
    Nearly half want Democrat in office next time; More than half think Bush isn’t honest and ethical.


  8. wmd says:

    US helicopter down in Iraq, all 13 aboard dead
    A US Blackhawk helicopter came down north-east of Baghdad, killing all 13 soldiers aboard in one of the deadliest single incidents for US forces since the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

    Residents near Baquba, in violent Diyala province, said they saw a helicopter in flames in the air but a military spokeswoman said it was not clear whether the aircraft was shot down.

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/us-helicopter-down-in-iraq-all-13-aboard-dead/2007/01/21/1169330748232.html


  9. Suzy Q says:

    I’m all for the troop surge……

    As long as every fresh soldier sent to Iraq is the child of a politician.


  10. john o. says:

    Good thing President Bush believes in the sanctity of human life, so we don’t have to worry that he might be cavalierly putting our troops into harm’s way for political reasons.


  11. dixie blood says:

    I think we should reinstate the draft and start with embryos and blastocyst!!!

    As long they are all Repugnicans!!!


  12. Bob says:

    Al-Qaeda and Iran have won in Iraq. I think we should negotiate and cease fire with Al-Qaeda and leave Iraq and Afganistan. Let Iran and Al-Qaeda fight each other! It’s not our problem. Bush and Cheney should be impeached!


  13. Erroll says:

    For what noble cause did 21 soldiers die today? Was it to control the oil in the Middle East or was it to secure those fourteen permanent military bases in Iraq? How many more deaths will it take before the less than courageous Democrats begin to finally call for the immediate withdrawal of those troops from that abattoir in Iraq? Bring them home- safely- now.


  14. ccokz says:

    FRENCH ELECTIONS
    When young Le Pen collaborated with some nazi organization during ww2. Meanwhile many things watered. Le Pen is becoming popualar thru his age. His ideas dont appear so anti-eloquent

    Le Pen and his Dobermen

    The chairman of “Front Nationale” renewly candidates at the presidential vote in France

    The way of Jean-Marie Le Pen leads thru an imposing wrought-iron gate with light-barrier and secret-code. It seperates the exterior world from the noble estate on the hills westward of Paris. Here, in Parc Montretout with its millionaires mansions and their guaranteed free view on the Eiffel tower, Le Pen occupied his HQ thirty years ago.
    Two mistrustingly grunting dobermen are company en route to the well-built (impressive) mansion, that is told to be 900 square meters large. Like a civic manifestation is the (interior) furniture: An oil-paint-portrait of the young sergeant Le Pen in bright parade-uniform, on a sideboard is the bible. Though Le Pen is divorced he keeps up family values. Daughter Marine, Le Pens possible successor at the top of the party, lives in the administrators house on daddys ground.
    Hes a reasonable Patriarch, le monsieur Le Pen, is the msg of the salon for visittors. The chairman of front nationale welcomes his guests timely and affable, excuses for fear of the dog, he´d like´em, his dobermen. For months ahead of the presidential vote Le Pen prescribed an election campaign of respectability to himself, with what he tries to dissolve the anyway vanishing demonization of his party as “brown danger” for the French democracy. “Since fifty years I have regarded all democratic rules, I never trespassed” he says. His ideas have meanwhile been copied. Especially minister of the interior Sarkozy, who has recently been throwned as candidate for conservative UMP, has poached in his program. Le Pen gives himself credit for that “the original is better than the copy.” He believes in his chances to repeat the success of 2002 and get into the second round of the presidential vote. Recent polls prove that every fourth French shares the views of Le Pen, only to every third his views remain inacceptable. Ten years ago more than half of all French rejected his philosophy strictly.
    Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung 14-1-7


  15. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Please notice that this attack was against a provincial headquarter, the same type of buildings, along with provincial policie stations, that Bush want American Soldiers to be stationed in as part of his “surge.”

    These kids are going to be sitting ducks for the same kind of attacks.

    Forgive me, but sometimes I wish Bush, Cheney and the War Profiteers would suffer the same fate that they caused over 3000 Americans and 655,000 Iraqis to suffer.


  16. Briseadh na Faire says:

    March on Washington
    January 27, 2007

    http://www.unitedforpeace.org/


  17. JerryTheAngel says:

    Bush is a mass murderer. If more then a million Iraqi civillians die during this invasion and illegal and immoral occupation, he will be just a few notches below Hitler.

    He’s just a few notches below Hitler in the madness category also. Bush is a madman.


  18. Barfly says:

    He’s just a few notches below Hitler in the madness category also. Bush is a madman.

    Comment by JerryTheAngel

    At the end, Hitler was marshalling imaginary forces to defend Berlin; Bush is there now, with under-manned troop strategies.

    Are they still trying to smear lipstick on the “Strategic Hamlets” strategy?


  19. Bob says:

    I’m glad those troops died! Go Al-Qaeda!


  20. the liberal press says:

    #19…Does the RNC still pay you if you make your pro-al-Qaeda posts too obvious?


  21. WaltTheMan says:

    #19 – Bob,
    Those troops were innocents. They did not deserve to die.


  22. Abby says:

    You need to get it through your thick skulls that, as long as there is a Democrat or a Republican in the White House, we are NOT getting out of Iraq.

    “Support the Troops” is a slogan which has no meaning other than “support the policy” of the people who send out troops to die in unnecessary wars. The kind of Americans that used to stop the waste of America lives in unnecessary wars does not live here any more.

    The only ones who can stop this madness are the troops by refusing to fight (commit treason) or the Iraqis by making the occupation too expensive, financially, to maintain (the “terrorists” win).


  23. dixie blood says:

    I’m glad those troops died! Go Al-Qaeda!

    Comment by Bob — January 20, 2007 @ 9:00 pm

    Bob, you’re an a$$wipe!!! You need to STFU and DD!!!!


  24. EL CHUPACABRA says:

    #19 Bob

    I don’t know how any human being could say such a thing.
    As a veteran I understand that most of the troops in Iraq are
    just doing their job and trying to survive. Whether they
    beliveve what they are doing is right or wrong.

    You are the scum of the earth.

    STFU


  25. veritas says:

    This is the “slaughter of the innocents” redux…..history repeating itself since mankind didn’t learn the lesson the first time.


  26. veritas says:

    I see we have a troll on board tonight….don’t get your panties in a wad with anything #19 posts. He’s obviously a misanthrope and probably a sociopath as well who doens’t deserve the respect of a reply.


  27. veritas says:

    #19 is baiting everyone….don’t feed the trolls and they quickly evaporate into a dark, stank miasma.


  28. CONservative says:

    Bob, PLEASE tell me that was simply a bad joke. While I want to see Bush and Cheney get impeached as much as you do, that ain’t the way to go about it. That really is just plain inhumane.


  29. Briseadh na Faire says:

    This bears repeating:

    Pelley mentioned to Mr. Bush that thousands of those troops have served two, three and even four tours already and if he would impose a limit.

    “You know, Scott, it is…we’re fortunate that people are willing to continue to serve. I’ve talked to some wives in there whose husbands have been over there for their second time. I said, ‘How you doin’?’ ‘I’m doing fine, my husband understands what we’re doing.’ The military is motivated,” Bush says.

    “In Vietnam as you know, you served 365 and you were done,” Pelley remarks.

    “This is a different situation. This is a volunteer army. In Vietnam, it was, ‘We’re going to draft you and you’re going to go for a year.’ This is a military where people understand there may be additional deployments,” Bush says.

    Bush knows about voluntary military service:

    Two weeks before he was to graduate from Yale, George Walker Bush stepped into the offices of the Texas Air National Guard at Ellington Field outside Houston and announced that he wanted to sign up for pilot training.
    It was May 27, 1968, at the height of the Vietnam War. Bush was 12 days away from losing his student deferment from the draft at a time when Americans were dying in combat at the rate of 350 a week. The unit Bush wanted to join offered him the chance to fulfill his military commitment at a base in Texas. It was seen as an escape route from Vietnam by many men his age, and usually had a long waiting list.

    Bush had scored only 25 percent on a “pilot aptitude” test, the lowest acceptable grade. But his father was then a congressman from Houston, and the commanders of the Texas Guard clearly had an appreciation of politics.

    Bush was sworn in as an airman the same day he applied….Rather than be drafted and serve in the infantry – an assignment Bush has acknowledged he did not want – he agreed to spend almost two years in flight training and another four years in part-time service….After basic training at Lackland and his commissioning as a second lieutenant in 1968, Bush got what amounted to a two-month-plus vacation that enabled him to head to Florida to work for a Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate, Edward J. Gurney.

    Yes, Bush knows all about volunteer service in the military:

    In 2000, the Boston Globe examined a period from May 1972 to May 1973 and found no record that Bush performed any Guard duties, either in Alabama or Houston, although he was still enlisted.

    According to military records obtained by The Washington Post, Bush first requested and received permission in May 1972 to be transferred to the Alabama National Guard so he could work on a U.S. Senate campaign. After he was in Alabama, he received notice from the Guard personnel center that he was “ineligible” for the Air Reserve Squadron he requested.

    In August 1972, Bush was suspended from flying because he failed to complete an annual medical exam. A month later, Bush requested to be assigned to a different unit in Alabama and was approved. Although he was required to attend periodic drills in Alabama, there is no official record in his file that he did.


  30. EL CHUPACABRA says:

    Bush is a deserter. Many of my friends were in the guard and
    reserve during that time and were warned if they missed more
    than one attendance they would be activated and sent to Viet
    Nam.

    When on active duty a person who is AWOL for more than a
    certaing amount of time, I believe it is 30 days, is declared to
    be a deserter. G. W. Bush was a deserter.

    As a veteran who fulfilled my 4 years of service, I don’t understand
    how any other veteran can tolerate how this deserter can put our
    military personell in harms way in an illegal war.

    Why don’t we see more outrage?


  31. VerbalKint says:

    Bob’s comment #19 looks like it might be deliberately planted in an attempt to make this site and the people at it look bad. I have seen this kind of outrageous post before and wondered the same thing: is someone doing this so they can selectively quote their own comment elsewhere (a right wing blog, perhaps?), pretending that a “liberal” wrote it?


  32. Briseadh na Faire says:


    As a veteran who fulfilled my 4 years of service, I don’t understand
    how any other veteran can tolerate how this deserter can put our
    military personell in harms way in an illegal war.

    Why don’t we see more outrage?

    Comment by EL CHUPACABRA — January 20, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

    Because someone organized a “Swift Boat Veteran’s for Truth” and no one organized a “Texas Air National Guard for Truth.”


  33. Outraged in Louisville says:

    21 US troops dead today. More US troops to be sent to Baghdad. Be sure to watch the DVD “Iraq for Sale.” It removes all doubt about the real goal of this War–to enrich Halliburton and other contractors.

    “Nice job, Bushie.”


  34. katy says:

    …pretending that a “liberal” wrote it?
    Comment by VerbalKint — January 20, 2007 @ 10:30 pm

    hmmm… i just assumed it was an asshole trying to start a fight…
    your idea make a lot of sense also… i remember hearing of such…


  35. Erroll says:

    Abby at #22

    “The only ones wo can stop this madness are the troops by refusing to fight [committ treason]…” You are only half right. I had attended the Citizens’ Hearing on the Legality of U.S. Actions in Iraq: The Case of Lt.Ehren Watada, which was a mock tribunal held in Tacoma, Wa., which presented the case that Lt. Watada would have presented if the military judge had allowed him to present his evidence at a pre trial hearing which was held on Jan. 16, namely that the war in Iraq is illegal and immoral. It was composed of a panel that questioned experts such as soldiers who had been to Iraq and of experts in international law and war crimes. Not one person stated that he or she thought Lt. Watada was committing treason by not deploying with his unit to Iraq. On the contrary, everyone recognized that the lieutenant is serving his country in the best way possible by refusing to take part in obeying an illegal order. German and Japanese officers attempted to use that defense after World War II, that they were only obeying orders, and were subsequently hanged for their refusal in not disobeying orders which they knew to be illegal.


  36. Bob says:

    Bush is coward! Zarqawi was a real hero who fought to the end. I admire Muqtada Al-Sadr and hope he kills more American Storm troopers! As for us attacking Iran, bring it on. Iran will defeat America and send the eveil imperialists running.
    Long live Ahmadinejad!
    Long live Muqtata Al-Sadr!
    May Zarqawi rest in peace!
    Those were real heroes! Not a zero like Bush!
    I smile at every dead American!


  37. Bob says:

    Down with Bush and American Imperialism!
    Long live global revolutionaries!


  38. Zooey says:

    Yeah, Bob’s been here before.

    He drops a smelly bomb and runs away.

    **yawn**


  39. Bob says:

    Bush is eveil and must be defeated at any cost! Hopefully China, Russia and The Islamic countries will attack and invade us so we can be free of this regime! Bush lied and peopel died!


  40. Bob says:

    Bush is responsible for everything wrong on Earth. If he was removed this planet would be a paradise. Down with Bush!


  41. Bob says:

    Bush even cause the extinction of the Dinosaurs. Bush has killed 100 Million people world wide. That’s more than Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined!


  42. Bob says:

    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!
    Bush lied and people died!


  43. Bob says:

    I meant to say, All power to Bush. Down with the US Constitution. We don’t need a leader who obeys our laws or listens to the people. Democracy is for wimps. All power to Bush!


  44. Ralph says:

  45. Whitey HermAphrodite says:

    “Illegally armed militia”? I wonder what that ludicrious douchebag Texas Hung Rethuglian (that thinks hes going to be president) thinks of that. He’s obviously in favor of exporting american democracy abroad, and since by his logic, everyone in america, including prison inmates, have the right to carry guns, he shouldnt be upset that these militias are running around practicing thier god given rights on foreign occupiers…


  46. trueblue says:

    Forgive me, but sometimes I wish Bush, Cheney and the War Profiteers would suffer the same fate that they caused over 3000 Americans and 655,000 Iraqis to suffer.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire — January 20, 2007 @ 8:11 pm

    I don’t think I have ever disagreed with you, Briseadh na Faire. I find I might now.
    I would like to have them all spend the rest of their lives surronded by the pictures of every person who has died under their watch.
    To know each missed birthday, anniversary; the videos of each persons first steps, graduations, births of their own children…

    The list goes on.
    I’m not talking about just the Americans killed. I want them to know the pain and life of everyone. Every Single One they are responsible for the death of.

    That is truly what I wish for them.


  47. Lucinda says:

  48. Barfly says:

    All power to Bush!

    Comment by Bob — January 20, 2007 @ 11:15 pm

    Folks, they’re all Rachael. She’s not original enough to keep from using the same word combinations. It’s an obvious “tell.”


  49. trueblue says:

    TP,

    Looks like you are gearing up for another walk-out.

    Can’t even control a couple of trolls a day after we come back.

    Nice job listening to YOUR base…..


  50. Alf says:

    Bush is an evil man! He’s even killing Polar Bears. He needs to be removed from office now!


  51. katy says:

    That is truly what I wish for them.
    Comment by trueblue — January 20, 2007 @ 11:19 pm

    my wish also…


  52. trueblue says:

    I agree, Barfly.

    I could tell the moment I saw “it”.

    It figures changing sexes will fool us………….

    How freaking stupid is this troll?
    (Rhetorical.)

    How are you?


  53. Alf says:

    Bush is causing Gloabal Warming! I say kick him off this planet. He’s more of a danger than Al-Qaeda or Iran is! He’s pure evil!



  54. Chris says:

    Long live Bin Laden!
    Long live Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!
    Death to Bush!


  55. Lucinda says:

    21 Mothers, 21 Fathers, a hundred grandparents, thousands of family members & friends heard today that their soldier was killed in Iraq.

    Bush has no clue. He grins and laughs like a moron during interviews about the War that he started. Heaven help us.


  56. Briseadh na Faire says:

    45 – Whitey

    I get your point about “illegally armed militias.”

    Were they armed with U.S. weapons?

    Did we support these “militias” in the same way we supported the Contras?

    Will we ever know?


  57. trueblue says:

    Alf,
    Go eat a cat and go back to Melmac.

    You are boring the Hell out of us.


  58. Abby says:

    Now imagine the “American Terrorist” (#54) was a Muslim of the brown variety.


  59. Chris says:

    Abby,
    Bush is an American Terrorist. He’s a menace to humanity. He must go!


  60. VerbalKint says:

    Bush shouldn’t be put to death any more than Osama bin Laden should be put to death. It is an inappropriate penalty that actually relieves them of responsibility for what they have done. They’ll be dead. They won’t know anything anymore. The appropriate punishment is for them to be put on trial and have their crimes aired out for all the world (and themselves) to see, then spend the rest of their days rotting in a jail cell to contemplate what evil they have done, and how they have been rejected by the world for it.


  61. Briseadh na Faire says:


    Folks, they’re all Rachael. She’s not original enough to keep from using the same word combinations. It’s an obvious “tell.”

    Comment by Barfly — January 20, 2007 @ 11:21 pm

    I don’t think so. rachel has a different style…even when she goes off the handle.

    rachel will usually start with a cut-and-paste article to get discussion going. this one is more like a Beavis and Butthead from the onset.

    I do wish Rove would pay more than the minimum wage for trolls here.


  62. Barfly says:

    trueblue,

    I’m fine.

    If one goes through the posts, in which Rachael first quits using the keystroke “art” and starts communicating directly, one can discern certain word patterns. As she progresses, the patterns change, but an evolution can be seen, both in word choice, and name choice. Her cries of victimhood were to gather information about posters, to later use against them. Her vile outbursts are most telling as far a tracking her word choice evoltion. Rachael knows namestealing will get her banned, so she has devised a more subtler ploy to defeat the terms of use.

    She should be scorned for the cankerous cretin that she is.


  63. Barfly says:

    this one is more like a Beavis and Butthead from the onset.

    It’s more like virtual rope-a-dope: Rachael’s barely sparring, looking like she’s on her last legs intellectually speaking, to get a opening — usually by someone who doesn’t recognize her. They engage, and give her little tidbits to use later on. trueblue knows what I’m talking about, I think.


  64. Briseadh na Faire says:

    barfly,

    when rachel does cut-and-paste posts, those are very good. And the links she provides are excellent as well.

    I, for one, will accept the good that is within rachel and will not scorn her.


  65. Jay Randal says:

    So Bush’s surge in Iraq has killed 21 soldiers today. How many more are going to die for Bush in the next 2 years? How many more maimed?

    When 18 US soldiers were killed in one day in Somalia, when Clinton was president, the Republicans demanded that Bill pull all the troops out and he did, so will the hypocrite GOPers demand the same of Bush?


  66. Barfly says:

    I, for one, will accept the good that is within rachel and will not scorn her.

    Comment by Briseadh na Faire

    As I first felt, if you will go back to about Monday, and look at the posts. I gave her a wide leeway, and stuck up for her on numerous threads (as some others can attest), but look who wound up number 4 on her “list.”

    Everyone must feel compelled to touch the burner. I guess it will be your turn, soon.


  67. Sharon Cox says:

    Good evening, just passing through again……Seem’s we didn’t get anything done with the walk out…..It is my belief like Impeacheness with bush, nothing will get done untill the issue is pressed..That will be my next step….Been busy writing more email’s to every representative I can think of and sending small check’s to Truthout and other good site’s to support our work…..Since nothing is getting done on TP to stop the wacko’s I’m not sticking around….You all do as you choose, I send Blessings and Peace….Untill the problem’s are fixed I have better thing’s to do…


  68. Juan C says:

    Rachael knows namestealing will get her banned, so she has devised a more subtler ploy to defeat the terms of use.
    Comment by Barfly

    I do agree with that if that happens, but my opinion is that we dont know for sure if she is the same (I guess she is, but Im not sure). Anyway, we tend to worry too much about a poster and detect if he is a Rep or a Dem and then answer him in accordance. Thats wrong, IMO. We care too much about who is who here, whats the poster name and if he/she was the other he/she from a past thread, etc. Whats important is the message. Although I agree there are regular, brilliant, so funny posters here that we tend to built virtual relationships and defend those relationships acordingly. Thats a good thing I guess, but I think we should be more tolerant. Hope this doesnt offend anyone.


  69. Jay Randal says:

    My new post did not appear so this is a test!


  70. Zooey says:

    Hope this doesnt offend anyone.
    Comment by Juan C

    I’m highly offended, Juan. Go away.

    I’m joking! Sorry, my brain is fried…


  71. hacker bob says:

    Zooey, WaltTheMan, and the soooo many others here (minus Bob)

    thank you for supporting the troops!


  72. Barfly says:

    No offense taken, Juan.

    Whats important is the message.

    And hers is particularly toxic, as the “listers” well know.

    She’s sitting back now, copying the things we say to give her ammo for her next TP barrage.

    But she’s played her rope out with me. I can tell her postings now, and will engage in a little pro-active “truth in advertising” whenever she starts under another name.


  73. Juan C says:

    Zoo. Heh.
    Im not saying, for example that you should be friend with someone that insulted or threatened you. In that case I would humbly suggest you to ignore that poster. I try to do that as much as I can, but nobody cares too much about me, anyway. :]

    What Im against is: Oh, theres rachel, again. Hey, Rachel, f*ck you! Oh, look another troll. My worst is your best…and senseless things like that. We are progressives, people. We have to show others tolerance, respect, info and given the case, let them know we can fight back hard.


  74. Zooey says:

    thank you for supporting the troops!
    Comment by hacker bob

    You bet, Robert.

    Thank you for your service to our country.


  75. Barfly says:

    Comment by hacker bob

    Gee, Bob, why’d you change your name? Is there deeper some relevance that we should know about?


  76. Zooey says:

    We have to show others tolerance, respect, info and given the case, let them know we can fight back hard.
    Comment by Juan C

    No, I won’t befriend her. I know what she’s capable of. I have been ignoring her since last night. :)


  77. Zooey says:

    Gee, Bob, why’d you change your name? Is there deeper some relevance that we should know about?
    Comment by Barfly

    That’s Robert, barfly — not Bob.


  78. Zooey says:

    Bush is evil! I’m glad Al-Qaeda is winning in Iraq!
    Comment by Jay Randal

    Now the troll is stepping into it…


  79. Barfly says:

    Hacker Bob,

    I’ve chewed on you many times; and you have my respect, for always coming back for more (under your own name). Unlike some we know . . .


  80. Jay Randal says:

    Ok since my test comment got posted.

    21 US soldiers lost their lives for Bush’s surge in Iraq. How many more will die on a daily basis for Bush’s personal benefit? How many more maimed or wounded?

    In 1993: 18 US troops were killed in one day in Somalia. The Republicans forced President Bush to pull the troops out afterwards, so will the hypocrite GOPers demand that Bush do the same and pull the troops out of Iraq now?


  81. Barfly says:

    That’s Robert, barfly — not Bob.

    Sorry not to include the “hacker;” I forgot who was listening . . . I knew it was Robert, just making a point about why he changed his name.


  82. Jay Randal says:

    Post 81 is NOT mine, so the person doing this will be reported to TP!


  83. Jay Randal says:

    83 is my post, but 82 is not!


  84. Jay Randal says:

    Somebody on here is hacking our names and deleting posts too.


  85. Barfly says:

    Rachel, I guess “a woman scorned” is true . . .


  86. hacker bob says:

    Gee, Bob, why’d you change your name? Is there deeper some relevance that we should know about?

    Comment by Barfly

    barfly, you may have missed the exchanges with rachel the other day when she was acusing me of hacking the TP servers. She kept refering to me as “Hacker Bob” So, in the spirit of fun I started with robert(hacker bob) then just hacker bob. Mainly as a way to let the little troll know that it didn’t bother me.

    I think all the regulars know who I am. Do you think I should go back to robert? If that would make other more comfortable, I will do it.


  87. hacker bob says:

    jay and barfly have been namejacked


  88. Barfly says:

    Let’s admitt defeat and go home!

    Rache, I’m not going to post for a while, and see how really deranged you can get. It should be an interesting ride . . .


  89. hacker bob says:

    Al-qaeda are global freedom fighters! So is Hezzbollah. It’s our duty as Progressives to support them. They are our allies!


  90. Juan C says:

    Calm down, Jay. There is nothing that little idiot in the computer of mommy can say to make us believe you have lost your senses.


  91. hacker bob says:

  92. Juan C says:

  93. Barfly says:

    HB, no, I was merely being a smart-ass to Juan about the strategy of just sitting around, singing kumbaya, and letting Rache run rampant.


  94. Keith Olbermann says:

    America has been defaeted. Let go home. We can’t fight the Islamists. They’re too powerful!


  95. Barfly says:

    I’m not going to post for a while,

    Except to answer H. Bob, that is. Now I really mean it!


  96. Jay Randal says:

    Imposter troll you have been reported to Judd and you are in deep trouble.


  97. Sheik Hassan Nasrallah says:

    As the leader of Hezzbollah I want to thank the American Left. Because of your control of the American media and Hollywood, you were able to pressure the Crusader regime of the evil Bush to make Israel back off. Thank you my friends! Now we will establish an Islamic state like Iran in Lebanon! We will take away Women’s rights and kill Gays. Minority Christians and Druzes will be ethnically cleansed!
    Thank you my progressive friends!


  98. Juan C says:

    Im off…good night.


  99. Jay Randal says:

    You have violated the terms of service imposter troll.


  100. RUCerious says:

    Phuoc.
    How many more dead are we willing to accept before we impeach their asses?


  101. Hillary Clinton says:

    My followers,
    I want to thank you for your support. When I become President we will have peace with Al-Qaeda! I will pay them to leave us alone and will allow Iran to exterminate Israel! I then will implement the fairness doctrine and ban Fox News and other Rightwing Media. I then will outlaw the Republican party and buils Gulags for their members! I will bring true progress to America!


  102. Osam Bin Laden says:

    If you pay us we will stop killing your troops. As you can see we’re winning yor losing!


  103. Jay Randal says:

    Me the real Jay Randal will not be posting on TP this morning, because a cyber hacker troll is using my name on here. Be aware that he might hijack your names too > bye all. I have sent an email to Judd about it.


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  105. Barfly says:

    We wouldn’t be stuck in Iraq today if it weren’t for the cowardly traitor Reagan. Just think about it: if Reagan hadn’t knuckled under to the terrorists and sold them weapons to get the hostages freed, while publicly arming their enemy, Saddam Hussein, the Iranians might not hate our guts so much. We would have reached an eventual political settlement, which would have also involved humanitarian aid, and freeing up their frozen assets. By not closely aligning ourselves with Saddam as we did, to counteract the Iranian threat, he would not have become as strong, and would have probably been overthrown before long. While he was getting weapons and material from other countries, he was getting tactical knowledge from us. Without that US support, he would have been much weaker. What’s playing out now as far as Iraq goes – the outside players, the sectarian and tribal feuds, the general lawlessness – would have happened anyway after Saddam was deposed by internal or external forces. But it would have happened decades ago, before we ran up such a huge debt, and casualty rate. Would American bases still be in Saudi Arabia, if Saddam had not been propped up in the ’80’s?

    How the terrorists must have smiled at seeing Reagan on CNN, repeatedlyassuring the American people that “we don’t make deals with terrorists,” while they were using the weapons he provided.


  106. Abby says:

    My history of the region goes a few years deeper than 1979. If we had not replaced a genuine American friend who was loved by his people in Iran with the brutal Shah back in the ’50s, Iranian and the region’s history would have been different, Saddam would not have fought a war against the Iranians, we would not have helped Saddam and Saddam would not have had all those people Kurds killed…………….

    Maybe they have a history with us that is even older than that. I seem to remember hearing somewhere that our first “war” fought overseas was against Muslims – the sea piracy sponsoring country of Turkey…………

    It does not matter whose fault it is. I don’t care if it is “Clinton’s Fault(TM)” or or Regan’s fault or even god’s fault. This is Bush’s “war” and he is the one who fu*ked it up.


  107. Abby says:

    #114 Jay Randal: I know Jay Randal. Jay Randal is a friend of mine (not really, but…) and you, Sir, are no Jay Randal.

    Does that mean that now you will hijack my name? OH NO! Damn! What have I done………..

    Here kitty kitty kitty…


  108. Alf says:

    Abby,
    Isn’t Iran a model for the world. They have the best human rights for women!


  109. JTitor says:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”….”the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly – it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”

    Joseph Goebbels

    Something to think about in this Old Wold Order.


  110. Fatthighs says:

    just bring the troops home.

    i notice tony snow made some smirky provocative remarks about americans wanting ***even handed treatment*** this is a code phrase for americans do want us to go kill shia.

    also gates said, we cant talk to iran, becoz iran doesnt want anythang from us.

    i leave it to american mommies and daddies of troops to decide what these peeps are saying.

    apparently insurgents and adversaries were watching these remarks on their satellite tvs, we did not know insurgents watched these thangs, really, the things we find out

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16722042/
    3rd deadliest day in iraq

    we think they should talk to iran, but the prollem is that would look like a win for IRAN.

    that is really too bad, i feel american troops should keep on dying becoz the last thang we want is for our presnit to look like he let happen a win for IRAN.

    it is really too bad.

    apparently IRAN wins if gates talks to it.

    also, SADR wins if the troops recognize that shia are the dominant force in the place and stop fucking with them.

    and finally, i guess Palestine won, becoz Olmert transferred a $100 million to them and Abbas is now talking to Khaled Mashal about a Unity Gummint.

    so i guess, bush helped his friends the palestines and is now trying to help his friends the sauds by getting more americans killed.

    also russia, syria and india (my home country) making out like bandits on caspian, irani and syrian oil.

    americans should not be worried about that at all, since the price of oil already came down to less than $50 despite the best efforts of cnbc idiots, larry kudlow and venezuela and russia to keep it up.

    also bush friends assured me that they have plenty of oil and they have nothing to worry about from these third world riff raff like india and china who pay their people less than $1 a day.

    thas all true, very true.

    thank god the american peeps see so clearly.

    bye bye.


  111. JTitor says:

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

    Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945

    The New World Order is the same as the Old World Order!


  112. Borat says:

    Why does that Jay Randals person keeps talkin to selfs ?
    This is one weirds web sites.


  113. Jay Randal says:

    Post 122 > a cyber hacker imposter troll hijacked my screen name on here, so see post 113 above. I explain it on that post. Feel free to be mad at the imposter. Back to bed.


  114. ItsJustKarma says:

    Support Our Troops…

    DU [depleted uranium] is released from fired weapons in the form of small particles that may be inhaled, ingested or remain in the environment. Depleted Uranium a slow, silent killer a crime against humanity. Killing our own soldiers with depleted uranium the United States has no business employing such weapons. This blatant disregard for scientific, medical proof that these weapons are damaging is a crime against humanity – some justifiably label it a war crime. Depleted uranium has a half life of 4.7 billion years; that means thousands upon thousands of Iraqi children will suffer for tens of thousands of years to come.

    http://dissidentnews.wordpress.c…et-nuclear-war/

    Exactly when are we going to stop those rabid militarists? After WW III?
    The clock is not 11:55 it is 11:59 my friends. And be assured, Depleted Uranium will reach your neighborhood soon. Global climate change? Storms and hurricanes? Anybody silent on that matter does a great favour to their successors. End militarism now.


  115. General Max says:

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  116. General Max says:

    Iran’s strongman loses grip as ayatollah offers nuclear deal

    IRAN’S supreme leader is considering a change of policy on the country’s nuclear programme in an effort to defuse growing tension with the West, according to senior sources in Tehran.
    Alarmed by mounting US pressure and United Nations sanctions, officials close to Ayatollah Ali Khamenei favour the appointment of a more moderate team for international negotiations on the supervision of its nuclear facilities.

    The move would be a snub to the bellicose president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose threats to destroy Israel have left Iran increasingly isolated and facing a serious economic downturn.

    Tehran sources said the impetus for a policy switch was coming from Khamenei, who has ultimate power over Iran’s foreign policy, security and armed forces.

    Khamenei is said to believe that Washington’s aim is not only to halt Iran’s nuclear programme but to overthrow the regime.

    He also considers the national interest is being undermined by an inexperienced president whose rhetoric is unnecessarily inflammatory.

    Under proposals now being debated, an international group made up of the permanent five members of the UN security council, plus Germany or a nuclear power such as India, would oversee and monitor Iran’s nuclear programme.

    Washington may judge this too little, too late. But European negotiators would be expected to regard such a move as a significant step towards reopening talks about the programme. Tehran insists it is for civilian power but the West believes it is aimed at creating nuclear weapons.

    Last month the security council imposed sanctions on Iran. It set a 60-day deadline for Tehran to suspend nuclear activity or face further sanctions. Washington’s tough stance and claims that Israel has drawn up plans for a nuclear strike against Iran’s uranium enrichment facilities have alarmed Tehran’s conservative leadership.


  117. Kurt says:

    If Chimpie was the CEO of any corporation in this country and the business was in trouble like this God Forsaken War in Iraq, Chimpie’s ass would’ve been out the door by now. WTF are we doing, and long is this madness going to continue?


  118. veritas says:

    Curious about George? Excerpted from the Introduction of “Bush on the Couch” by Justin A. Frank, M.D. to wit:

    “If one of my patients frequently said one thing and did another, I would want to know why. If I found that he often used words that hid their true meaning and affected a persona that obscured the nature of his actions, I would grow more concerned. If he presented an inflexible worldview characterized by an oversimplified distinction between right and wrong, good and evil, allies and enemies, I would question his ability to grasp reality. And if his actions revealed an unacknowledged – even sadistic – indifference to human suffering, wrapped in pious claims of compassion, I would worry about the safety of the people whose lives he touched.”

    Need I say more?? I believe everyone know has witnessed every single aspect of this degree of mental dysfunction and psychopathology in the years we’ve witnessed this man function.

    The time is NOW to impeach him or force him into a psychiatric retirement (for his own good, by the way). Clearly, he’s shown us that he’s incapable and unqualified to run this country even in a democracy; now that it’s a fascist dictatorship/imperial presidency where this “patient” has his finger on the trigger of the world, it’s time to get scared…..REAL SCARED!


  119. Find Muck says:

    Iraq Totals

    3052 US Soldiers Killed
    253 coalition Soldiers Killed
    727 Civillian Contractors Killed
    ____
    3932 Total killed ( The real Total)

    22,834 American Soldier wounded BIG TIME

    655,000 Iraqi Mostly Civilians killed
    356,000 Iraqis Injured BIG TIME

    0 WMD found
    0 links to Al Queda
    0 Threat to USA

    1 Maniac Loose Canon President
    85% of worlds population Hate Americans


  120. michael says:

    WOW! You Traitors really need to secure a one way ticket on the next luxury cruise to France. Good Riddance!


  121. Barfly says:

    And Michael needs a girlfriend that will keep him occupied at 1:24 am on a Monday morning.

    I guess to braindead types with no originality, “traitor” is the new “communist.” That two-dimensional world-view of yours must be very painful on the old nose. Do you use a cane?


  122. Randy Nason says:

    In a time of universal deceit,

    telling the truth becomes a

    revolutionary act.
    -George Orwell


  123. Think Progress » Iraqi assailants dress as American soldiers. says:

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