Brownback Opposes Escalation, But Attacks Senate Resolution Against Bush Plan
Brownback Opposes Escalation, But Attacks Senate Resolution Against Bush Plan
Sen. Sam Brownback (R-KS) has come out against President Bush’s escalation plan. He recently said:
I do not believe that sending more troops to Iraq is the answer. … Iraq requires a political rather than a military solution.
On ABC’s This Week, Brownback explained that after talking to Iraqi and U.S. military leaders on a recent trip to Iraq, he was convinced that the escalation plan could not succeed. But when pressed by host George Stephanopoulos on whether he would register his opposition by supporting a bipartisan Senate resolution opposing Bush’s plan, Brownback said he would not. Instead, he attacked the resolution, arguing, “That just says, OK, we’re against this.” Watch it:
Full transcript:
STEPHANOPOULOS: But last week, you spoke out against the idea. What changed?
BROWNBACK: I went to Baghdad. I was there last week. I was there the week before last, rather. I met with the military officials. I met with the Sunni and Shiite leaders, none of which really supported the idea.
And then, the capstone on all of it was, I went to the Kurdish region. I went to Erbil and I met with Mr. Barzani, the head of the Kurdish region. And I asked him, will you send Kurdish troops, your Kurdish troops, into Baghdad to quell the violence? And he said, why should I get in the middle of a Sunni-Shiite fight?
STEPHANOPOULOS: I thought they were doing that, though.
BROWNBACK: He’s not sending the core of his troops. And I asked him, would you send — if you were me, would you vote for more troops? And he said, I don’t see why you would do that at this point in time?
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STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, Senator Hagel has joined the Democrats in introducing a resolution to oppose the president’s sending of more troops. Will you vote for that?
BROWNBACK: No. That doesn’t give us a route forward. That just says, OK, we’re against this. What I think we really have got to do today is sit down with Democrat leaders and say, what will you support?
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Another retard republiscum with no chance in hell of becoming president.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:32 amI met with Mr. Barzani, the head of the Kurdish region. And I asked him, will you send Kurdish troops, your Kurdish troops, into Baghdad to quell the violence? And he said, why should I get in the middle of a Sunni-Shiite fight?
How much more proof do we need that the Iraqis AREN’T standing up? Sheesh!
January 21st, 2007 at 11:32 amBrownback Opposes Escalation, But Attacks Senate Resolution Against Bush Plan
BROWNBACK: No. That doesn’t give us a route forward. That just says, OK, we’re against this. What I think we really have got to do today is sit down with Democrat leaders and say, what will you support?
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January 21st, 2007 at 11:35 amNot exactly what I’d call an attack Faiz… I don’t think we can demonize Republicans just because they are conservative. It’s what will make us look irrational.
This website has done a helluva job over the last few years in keeping folks informed and remaining out of the fray of Democratic politics. Now that the veil has been lifted and Podesta has come out for Hillary, I truly hope that this site doesn’t become a Hillary campaign vehicle. If it does, I’m outta here as I’m sure many others will be as well.
She can’t win. Period. Gore, Obama and Edwards are all more viable candidates than someone who will be as polarizing as Bush and raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:36 amBrownback is batshit crazy. I could not believe the pablum that he was spewing this morning. He just gets crazier and crazier each time he is given a platform. I just shake my head at him.
What is in the drinking water in Kansas?
January 21st, 2007 at 11:37 amHe was for the escalation while he was against it!
January 21st, 2007 at 11:38 amdemonize ?????????????????
January 21st, 2007 at 11:44 amYou mean we aren’t there allready????????????
where have you been living??????????
I was and still am Against Bush BEFORE He Got into the Office, POINT BLANK!
This coming from a Texas Citizen when Bush was a GVT of Texas.
America has ALLWAYS Been Demonized, ever since Christians came here Slaughtering The Natives!
Its True But not unbelievable that Hell(America) is freezing Over.
P.S. The Devil is Free. look around.
Congress needs to pass a resolution with REAL TEETH in it. Cut off funding for the war. It was done in 1973, cutting off funding for ALL combat ops in SE Asia. Do it again.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:46 am
The GOP has recovered from their post election shock and going back to business as usual – I hope the Deomcrats remain viligant in their ethics “reform” and budget/fiscal oversight instead of focusing on running for higher office or re-election after only the first 100 hours…
January 21st, 2007 at 11:50 amwho will be as polarizing as Bush and raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems.
Comment by Bill Miller — January 21, 2007 @ 11:36 am
Sadly, there are many on the Right who will fight against Hillary more than they will fight for the conservative candidate of their choice.
I think she has a lot of great ideas, and is a brilliant woman. My mother always used to comment that Hillary was the one running the country when Bill was in office, because she was smarter and more capable. But unfortunately, you are right. She has too many hurdles to overcome to win.
I think we have three other outstanding candidates who would all do an excellent job. So far, the Republicans have none.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:50 amUnbelievable (#3), Brownback may say things more gently, but his comments on the resolution are indeed an attack on anyone who supports congressional action against escalation. It’s a reprise of the argument that anyone who endorses a resolution against the Bush escalation plan has no plan to offer of their own and isn’t being “serious.” It’s a specious argument — one I see as an attack.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:51 amDo something about it. March on Congress next Saturday. http://www.unitedforpeace.org
Comment by Uncle_Ho — January 21, 2007 @ 11:46 am
I am being forced to go to some stupid conference that I really do not want to attend that day. I really wish I could be there. I will atleast be there in thought.
I wonder if the Revolution will get any publicity…
January 21st, 2007 at 11:54 amIraq Totals
3052 US Soldiers Killed
253 coalition Soldiers Killed
727 Civillian Contractors Killed
____
3932 Total killed ( The real Total)
22,834 American Soldier wounded BIG TIME
655,000 Iraqi Mostly Civilians killed
356,000 Iraqis Injured BIG TIME
0 WMD found
0 links to Al Queda
0 Threat to USA
1 Maniac Loose Canon President
January 21st, 2007 at 11:56 am85% of worlds population Hate Americans
January 21st, 2007 at 11:58 am
It’s a specious argument — one I see as an attack.
Comment by Faiz — January 21, 2007 @ 11:51 am
I understand your point of view. I just think the word is a bit strong in this context, and is going to be fodder for the trolls.
Hopefully, I’m wrong and they are all in church learning about peace, love and non-violent resolutions. :D
January 21st, 2007 at 11:58 amMy God…
Brownback is G. W. Bush all over again!
He is simple the other side of the same old coin!
He has even gone and dusted off Bush old railing cry – that of saying he too is a so called “ Compassionate Conservativeâ€!
Does that make his a “Christian Fascist†I would yes!
I have never meet a conservative that was compassionate about anything that really mattered to the people but was compassionate about absolute power, bigotry, cynicism, cronyism, criminal negligence, corruption, fascism, hypocrisy, hate mongering, self loathing, homophobe, intolerance, not a iota of respect civil rights, ideologically rigid, indifferent at best… hostile at worst, nasty and obsessive, to list just a few!
This guy thinks American wants a second coming of G. W. Bush – get real!
Brownback is DOA at the starting gate!
January 21st, 2007 at 12:06 pmHopefully, I’m wrong and they are all in church learning about peace, love and non-violent resolutions. :D
Comment by unbelievable — January 21, 2007 @ 11:58 am
You forgot the /sarcasm. You know full well that neocons do not preach about peace. love and non-violent resolutions. They preach about (stealing) money, money and more money.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:08 pmComment by thefireguy — January 21, 2007 @ 12:06 pm
You are so right. When I heard him called a compassionate conservative I knew he was dead in the water!!
January 21st, 2007 at 12:14 pmIn its December 18th issue, the New Republic offers a window into the soul of Kansas Republican Senator and 2008 White House hopeful Sam Brownback. Tracing Brownback’s dual conversions from small government Gingrich acolyte to red meat culture warrior and from devout evangelical to Catholic firebrand, TNR ponders his presidential prospects.
But Brownback’s’ new found extremism aside, the most illuminating nugget in Noam Scheiber’s piece may be the themes of victimization and inferiority that underlay the rage and seething of red state crusaders Brownback represents. As Scheiber details, Brownback offers up a 21st century version of the elite blue state bogeyman sneering at his slack-jawed brethren in America’s heartland:
Brownback turns to me and explains his theory of red-state/blue-state relations. People who live in Red America know plenty about Blue America. They often work in large cities, or they travel to them on vacation, or they hear about them through popular culture. But the opposite is almost never true. “If they”–the people in Blue America–”travel at all,” Brownback says, “they go abroad, like to Europe or Tokyo.” I can’t say for sure, but I think he is paying me a compliment.
For more, see:
January 21st, 2007 at 12:23 pm“Brownback on the Red-Blue Divide.”
I truly hope that this site doesn’t become a Hillary campaign vehicle. If it does, I’m outta here as I’m sure many others will be as well.
She can’t win. Period. Gore, Obama and Edwards are all more viable candidates than someone who will be as polarizing as Bush and raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems.
Comment by Bill Miller — January 21, 2007 @ 11:36 am
needs repeated… but it’s likely already happened…
any more obvious, and i’m outta here too… no great loss for either of us…
there are plenty of good sites out there, as it’s become ever more apparent…
…Gore, Obama and Edwards are all more viable candidates than someone who will be as polarizing as Bush and raise as much money for the GOP as the Dems.
so sad to say… sad, because i’d love for someone as smart and truly compassionate as hillary clinton to be my president… but, that vast right wing conspiracy would sooner drag this country deeper in the mud than allow her that well deserved honor… i just don’t think it’s the right time…
that said, let it be known, should she get the nomination as democratic candidate for president, i will do MY very best to see that she is elected…
meantime, i’m hoping it’s EDWARDS/OBAMA…
January 21st, 2007 at 12:25 pmjust sayin’…
It’s a reprise of the argument that anyone who endorses a resolution against the Bush escalation plan has no plan to offer of their own and isn’t being “serious.†It’s a specious argument — one I see as an attack.
Comment by Faiz — January 21, 2007 @ 11:51 am
me too…
January 21st, 2007 at 12:28 pmOoo-kay! No President Brownback.
As if there was ever any doubt….
January 21st, 2007 at 12:33 pmYou forgot the /sarcasm.
I thought that the grinning “:D” thing was an equivalent…?
You know full well that neocons do not preach about peace. love and non-violent resolutions. They preach about (stealing) money, money and more money.
Comment by Jules — January 21, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
LOL. Oh yeah – it’s all about money. It’s how they value themselves (since everything else about them is so miniscule – heart, brain, conscience, genitalia… :)
January 21st, 2007 at 12:36 pmme too…
Comment by katy — January 21, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
are you also disagreeing with the all knowing,omnipresent,navy fighter jet pilot dating person?
January 21st, 2007 at 12:36 pmAharon Zohar
Comment by Aharon Zohar — January 21, 2007 @ 12:19 pm
Dude, Really… Must we have to scroll past your posts in every thread TP posts today? Once is enough. We’re capable of multi-tasking. Really.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:38 pmIraq Totals
3052 US Soldiers Killed
253 coalition Soldiers Killed
727 Civillian Contractors Killed
____
3932 Total killed ( The real Total)
22,834 American Soldier wounded BIG TIME
655,000 Iraqi Mostly Civilians killed
356,000 Iraqis Injured BIG TIME
0 WMD found
0 links to Al Queda
0 Threat to USA
0 Oil Contracts to AmericaIraq reopens Iraq National Oil Company
1 Maniac Loose Canon President
85% of worlds population Hate Americans
This is losers Policy
January 21st, 2007 at 12:40 pmI met with Mr. Barzani, the head of the Kurdish region. And I asked him, will you send Kurdish troops, your Kurdish troops, into Baghdad to quell the violence? And he said, why should I get in the middle of a Sunni-Shiite fight?
Actually the truth is
Kurdish Iraqi soldiers are deserting to avoid the conflict in Baghdad
Kurdish soldiers from northern Iraq, who are mostly Sunnis but not Arabs, are deserting the army to avoid the civil war in Baghdad, a conflict they consider someone else’s problem.
SO THE PLAN IS TO SEND AMERICAN TROOPS ALONE INTO SOUTHERN BAGHDAD – Kurd troops into Sadr City will not work they know being Sunni unable to speak the language and will stir up Civil War and their deserting in drives
Looks like American troops will have to take Sadr out ( and Thats a joke) 2 million militai in Baghdada alone aged 14 to 45 all armed
January 21st, 2007 at 12:46 pmnavy fighter jet pilot dating person?
Comment by just sayin’ — January 21, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
It wasn’t a fighter jet that he flew.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:48 pmunbelievable; I am going to the march on D.C. next Saturday. I want to throw my medals back to Congress for service during Vietnam(ala 1971). Now where did I put the damn things?
January 21st, 2007 at 12:51 pmnavy fighter jet pilot dating person?
Comment by just sayin’ — January 21, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
It wasn’t a fighter jet that he flew.
Comment by unbelievable — January 21, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
You just piss people off all over the place dontcha :)!!! You know you must be doing (or writing) something right when people go to this much trouble to try to annoy you!
January 21st, 2007 at 12:52 pmIt’s a specious argument — one I see as an attack.
I disagree. It looks to me like Brownback is displaying more courage than the Senate Dem leadership and wants some lege with some real teeth in it. He should be encouraged to put-up or shut-up, not attacked.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:55 pmunbelievable; I am going to the march on D.C. next Saturday. I want to throw my medals back to Congress for service during Vietnam(ala 1971). Now where did I put the damn things?
Comment by Uncle_Ho — January 21, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
I am both angry and sick that I cannot go. But look who I work for – I’m sure it’s intentional.
I’d love to see you do that! It would be rightfully earned.
Let us know how it goes.
January 21st, 2007 at 12:59 pmYou just piss people off all over the place dontcha :)!!!
LOL… Funny what pisses them off, huh? :)
You know you must be doing (or writing) something right when people go to this much trouble to try to annoy you!
Comment by Jules — January 21, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
That’s my stance as well… And exactly why they don’t succeed.
Though you’ll probably be added to the list for talking to me ; )
It’s free entertainment, isn’t it? :)
January 21st, 2007 at 1:02 pmSo he won’t take a stance and sign on to the resolution, even though he agrees with it? Like all Repugs – don’t pay attention to what they say, watch what they do:
January 21st, 2007 at 1:12 pmHe says he opposes, but he won’t sign on.
He prefers to think his party of bullies is still in charge and the Democrats should compromise.
#30, uncle ho
January 21st, 2007 at 1:13 pmI am disappointed that I won’t be in DC Saturday – but I will be thinking of you and all those who are attending.
I am going to the march on D.C. next Saturday.
Comment by Uncle_Ho
Shout extra loud for us, Uncle Ho! I wish I could be there.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:14 pmIt’s free entertainment, isn’t it? :)
Comment by unbelievable — January 21, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
and so is your resume’,which,i guess,you feel we never tire of reading about.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:15 pmThough you’ll probably be added to the list for talking to me ; )
It’s free entertainment, isn’t it? :)
Comment by unbelievable — January 21, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
I would be honored to be added to that list. Hell, it would be an honor just being nominated!
I may not always agree with you but you have good solid arguments for your point of view and really, is there anyone in your life that you agree with 100% of the time? If there is it is probably a pretty boring relationship. And I wonder if they always attack those in their lives who disagree with them as ferociously as they do with you?
It is pretty funny reading how you get under the skin of some of these posters and all of the trolls.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:15 pmThe List (TM)
Just sayin’…
January 21st, 2007 at 1:18 pmare you also disagreeing…
Comment by just sayin’ — January 21, 2007 @ 12:36 pm
uh, no, i was agreeing with faiz… maybe the word “attack” was a bit harsh, but it’s his post, his choice…
January 21st, 2007 at 1:18 pmjust sayin’…
The Democratic leaders should be supporting re-deployment of all our troops out of Iraq and opposing invading Iran. All the Senators should be supporting “Bring the troops home” and stay out of Iran.
Impeach the Decider and his cartel and save the world.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:22 pmi have a feeling un was referring to another list, zooey…
not The List (TM)…
as if…
January 21st, 2007 at 1:22 pmMarie, Zooey, thanx. I will be marching with Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:24 pmand so is your resume’,which,i guess,you feel we never tire of reading about.
Comment by just sayin’ — January 21, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
Jealous.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:26 pmUnbelivable; Just who DO you work for? I profess ignorance here of your employer.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:27 pmI would be honored to be added to that list. Hell, it would be an honor just being nominated!
We haven’t seen rachel/angie/patricia lately, but if you do (that’s the author), just tell her you want to be added to her list because you think she is a troll :)
I may not always agree with you but you have good solid arguments for your point of view and really, is there anyone in your life that you agree with 100% of the time? If there is it is probably a pretty boring relationship. And I wonder if they always attack those in their lives who disagree with them as ferociously as they do with you?
Thanks Jules. I respect you immensely. You’re right that we don’t always agree, but that we can have discussions while respecting one another as thoughtful adults. I hope you know how much I appreciate that, and how much I have learned from you. I love reading your posts.
It is pretty funny reading how you get under the skin of some of these posters and all of the trolls.
Comment by Jules — January 21, 2007 @ 1:15 pm
Isn’t it? : )
January 21st, 2007 at 1:35 pmi have a feeling un was referring to another list, zooey…
not The List ™…
Comment by katy — January 21, 2007 @ 1:22 pm
Your feelings keep getting you into trouble. I suggest you ignore them. And, as I’ve asked you a million times, me.
Zoo, however, was right.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:36 pmUnbelivable; Just who DO you work for? I profess ignorance here of your employer.
Comment by Uncle_Ho — January 21, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Sorry, I should have stated it…
The Government… I teach high school.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:38 pmComment by Uncle_Hos Nemesis — January 21, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
I just reported this to TP.
It was disgusting. Shame on you.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:40 pmUnbelivable; Just who DO you work for? I profess ignorance here of your employer.
Comment by Uncle_Ho — January 21, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
you’re kidding,right?
January 21st, 2007 at 1:42 pmdoesn’t everyone here know her autobiography by now?
I just reported this to TP.
Comment by unbelievable
WWWAAAAAAA!MOMMYJUDDWWWAAAAAA!!
January 21st, 2007 at 1:45 pmyou’re kidding,right?
doesn’t everyone here know her autobiography by now?
Comment by just sayin’ — January 21, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
I repeat – jealous.
January 21st, 2007 at 1:48 pmComment by Uncle_Hos Nemesis — January 21, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
January 21st, 2007 at 1:49 pmBIG BAN FOR THIS SICK SHITHEAD!
Nemesis: I have EVERY right to march. It is guaranteed under the Constitution, that part call the Bill of Rights(1st amendment; Freedom of speech, & freedom of assembly). Where did you go to school at-the Hitler Youth?
January 21st, 2007 at 1:52 pm
Excellent post Uncle Ho. You are a true Patriot!
January 21st, 2007 at 1:58 pmunbelievable; I thank you kindly. One other point, I have killed and I am still sickened by it decades later. Other allegations made by nemesis are beneath my dignity to answer.
January 21st, 2007 at 2:09 pmI have friends whose names are etched in black granite on a wall at the National Mall in D.C.
How can you call the people you let die with your protesting friends?
Cheneys excuse?
He is Vice President now and what are you?
January 21st, 2007 at 2:10 pmnemesis; I don’t see YOUR ass in the army. Now be a good little brownshirt and STFU.
January 21st, 2007 at 2:15 pmComment by Uncle_Hos Arch Nemesis — January 21, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
January 21st, 2007 at 2:24 pmhaven,t you no shame at all?
If I could , I would have Banned You along time ago.
Faiz? please, this Individual is not worthy of its 1st admendment right. please ban it.
Nemesis , I do Pray that the Draft happens for yoursake.
Other allegations made by nemesis are beneath my dignity to answer.
Comment by Uncle_Ho — January 21, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I agree. It is just a very lonely person who gets off thinking it is upsetting other people. Sad.
Well, I gotta run for now.
Later!
January 21st, 2007 at 2:28 pmSen. Brownback likes to have it both ways, claiming he opposes a escalation of troops in Iraq, but at the same time not doing anything to stop it either. I call him Sen. Brokeback Mountain > lol.
January 21st, 2007 at 3:47 pmSo- Senator Brownback would rather vote against his real beliefs, that he may appear a loyal and faithful brown nose? Yup- I guess that’s it. I know that it happens on both sides of the aisle; Republicans AND Democrats are afraid of sticking thier necks out and taking a side. In America 101.0, we call those people cowards and ass kissing “yes men”, don’t we class? Maybe these public servants need to go back to school and learn more about the benefits of actual decision-making.
January 21st, 2007 at 5:38 pmHave only one question.
January 21st, 2007 at 11:07 pmWhich of his two faces is he wearing in the picture?
C’mon out of that closet, Sam.
You’ll feel better for it.
January 22nd, 2007 at 1:29 amIn a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
January 22nd, 2007 at 7:18 am-George Orwell
I do not believe that more troops is the answer…
…but I will defend Bush’s legacy…
…to their dying breaths…
-Sam Brownback-
January 22nd, 2007 at 9:31 amHas any one noticed that on the heels of the mid term turnover, the republican case on opposing the nonbinding resolution is the same old story. “What message will it send to the troops and the enemy”? Not once have they mentioned what message does it send to the American people? WE’RE NOT LISTENING TO YOU!!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 7:26 pm