BREAKING: Libby Destroyed Evidence Prior To Testifying, Cheney ‘Deeply Involved’
BREAKING: Libby Destroyed Evidence Prior To Testifying, Cheney ‘Deeply Involved’
Under oath, Vice President Cheney’s former chief of staff Scooter Libby told a grand jury that he first learned that Joe Wilson’s wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA agent from conversations with the media. In fact, he first learned that information from Vice President Cheney himself.
Libby is now on trial for perjury. His defense is that he simply forgot who told him that Plame worked for the CIA. But in court today, prosecutors outlined a powerful case establishing that Libby had reason to remember who told him and motive to cover it up. MSNBC’s David Schuster said today’s revelations from prosecutors are “new and will astound a number of people, even those who have been following this case.” Among the new claims:
– “Vice President Cheney himself directed Scooter Libby to essentially go around protocol and deal with the press and handle press himself…to try to beat back the criticism of administration critic Joe Wilson.”
– Cheney personally “wrote out for Scooter Libby what Libby should say in a conversation with Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper.”
– “Scooter Libby destroyed a note from Vice President Cheney about their conversations and about how Vice President Cheney wanted the Wilson matter handled.”
Schuster has the report. Watch it:
Transcript:
SCHUSTER: During opening arguments in the case against Scooter Libby, prosecutors outlined evidence about Vice President Cheney’s role in the leak of CIA operative Valerie Wilson that is new and will astound a number of people, even those who have been following this case. The prosecutors said the evidence will make it clear that the very first government official who told Scooter Libby about Valerie Wilson, the wife of a critic and the fact that she was working at the CIA, the very first person who told him that was Vice Ppresident Cheney. The prosecutor said the evidence will also show Vice President Cheney himself directed Scooter Libby to essentially go around protocol and deal with the press and handle press himself, that Scooter Libby should be the one talking to the press to try to beat back the criticism of administration critic Joe Wilson.
Prosecutors also revealed today that Vice President Cheney himself wrote out for Scooter Libby what Scooter Libby should say in a conversation with Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper. It was during that conversation when Scooter Libby provided confirmation to Cooper that Valerie Wilson worked at the CIA. In addition, there were some blockbuster revelations this morning about Scooter Libby’s actions before he testified to the FBI about the original leak. According to prosecutors, the evidence will show that Scooter Libby destroyed a note from Vice President Cheney about their conversations and about how Vice President Cheney wanted the Wilson matter handled.
There was other information that came out about Vice President Cheney. The prosecutors talked about the State of the Union speech where the president made a false claim about reasons for war with Iraq — the idea that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger. When that came out, and the white house was trying to figure out who should take responsibility, according to prosecutors, Vice President Cheney repeatedly urged the Director of the CIA George Tenet to take full responsibility and that no blame whatsoever should land on the president or Office of the Vice President.
It was blockbuster developments about Vice President Cheney. This is the kind of information that supporters of the Vice President have feared would come out in this trial. The Vice President is not accused of any wrongdoin, but prosecutors are building their case, trying to give the jury a motive for why Scooter Libby did what he did as far as blaming reporters for passing along classified information when, the prosecutors allege, he learned that from the beginning from the Vice President.
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Well then it is time for VP Cheney to be impeached > PERIOD.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:08 pmWell,who da thunk it ?
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:09 pmMy dream….
Cheney impeached/resigns as scandal breaks in Libby trial.
Dems, emboldened by grassroots support investigate, impeach and remove Bush.
President Pelosi declines to run for re-election in 2008
Okay, little chance things will work out that way, but a gal can dream can’t she???
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:15 pmAre you paying attention, Congress?
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:15 pmStill more confirmation that president cheney is not only a war criminal, he’s a traitor who will expose a CIA agent if there is some petty political score to be settled. Does Congress have the balls to do something about it?
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:16 pmGet all the latest Libby trial news, legal documents, timelines and other essential materials at:
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:19 pm“The CIA Leak/PlameGate Resource Center.”
#1
Impeachment is the wrong answer. He and the rest of these clowns should be Criminally Indicted for crime of treason.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmShocking.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:21 pmFor those with a discernable ear and gvood recall you may remember the odd off topic statement by Cheney duringv his post shootingv intergview with brit Hume. Out of the blue Cheney asserted the Vice President is allowed to disclose top secret information at their own discretion.
C-R-I-M-I-N-A-L
Why doesn’t Cheney follow the law?
For the third year in a row the Office of Vice President Dick Cheney has refused to disclose data on its classification and declassification activity, in an apparent violation of an executive order issued by President Bush.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:23 pm“The Office of the Vice President (OVP), the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB), and the Homeland Security Council (HSC) failed to report their data to ISOO this year,” the Information Security Oversight Office (ISOO) noted in its new 2005 Annual Report to the President http://www.fas.org/sgp/isoo/2005rpt.pdf (at page 9, footnote 1).
The Office of the Vice President has declined to report such data since 2002. Yet it is clear that disclosure is not optional.
http://www.fas.org/ blog/ secrecy/ 2006/ 05/ vice_president_refuses_to_repo.html
#7
No reason to not do both. Treason has a very high threshold for proof. Impeachment, obviously (see Clinton), does not.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:24 pmPoor Dick . . . he seems so . . . honest . . . and . . . compassionate.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmThis could be the last little push that finally gets the whole ball of wax moving at last.
It’s clear from this, if nothing else, that Cheney needs to be impeached. After all, I recall a certain Democratic President who was impeached by a rabid Republican Congress when he lied under oath…
Sure, Cheney’s done far worse things, but in the courtroom, it’s what you can prove. Remember, when Al Capone finally went to prison, it was for tax evasion.
Once Cheney’s been impeached, then impeachment is officially ‘back on the table’, and we can start cleaning house in earnest. Who knows…by 2008 we might actually have our country back.
One thing is vitally important, however…no pardons. If this is mismanaged, I can easily see Chimpy and Cheney pardoning each other in the most massive miscarriage of justice in the history of this country. The Dems must manage this so the Presidential power of pardon can’t be turned into a ‘get out of jail free’ card for these thugs.
Once all the neocons have been impeached, criminal prosecution for their crimes can commence…unless the international community needs them at the Hague to answer for war crimes. If they do, I say we give them to them. Few gestures would atone for our sins more than to place these criminals before the justice of the world.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pmHA! Here’s a few words that Cheney needs to look up..Hubris and her ugly cousin Nemesis. I hope they burn this sumbitch to the ground. And, after that it will truly be a hoot to watch poor little president man try to run the country without his Dick.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pmWho wants to sign the apology letter to Jason Leopold?
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:27 pmFitzgerald alleged that Libby in September 2003 “wiped out†a Cheney note just before Libby’s first FBI interview when he said he learned about Wilson and his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame, from reporters, not the vice president.
He’s in this up to his alligator nipped arse…
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:30 pmSo, Cheney is behind the treasonous outing of a cia agent and destroying the cover for many other cia agents as well as destroying the group that was keeping up with middle east countries nuclear capabilities.
impeach the criminal, then try for treason and execute the bast*ard
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 pmCheney will retire “for health reasons” or “to spend more time with his family” before the end of the year. A “good soldier” republican will be appointed to take his place and that man will pardon G.W. Bush for crimes against the constitution after the Democratic congress proves that he has committed those crimes.
That’s my prediction.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:34 pmIt’s treason.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:37 pmObstruction of justice is clearly an impeachable offense and it’s also very likely that Cheney commited perjury.
I’m really going to enjoy watching Dick resign to “spend more time with his family” to avoid impeachment.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 pmI am going to wait on this. It is one thing to outline this, it will be another to prove it in court. I hope they do, and it results in cheney, then Bush being removed from office, but I don’t want to get my hopes up too much.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 pmMr. Nice guy, the Dick, your limp-ness is showing…
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:38 pmFry the no good “SOB”.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:39 pmThis year is shaping up to be positively “Nixonian”. Keep the popcorn handy all.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmEveryone knows what a bunch of punk ass bitches the GOP consists of; I just wonder how long Scooter will look into the ugly maw of a lengthy prison term before he rats out Cheney. Or, maybe Fitzgerald’s trap has been so stealthily laid that once it is sprung, it nabs Rove and Cheney. The beauty of it all is that all we have to do is let republicans be themselves….it really is a beautiful thing to behold.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmSo Libby perjures himself over a non-crime (Plame was not a covert agent at the time). Is this like Clinton perjuring himself over a non-crime?
Well, it is and it isn’t.
It is because they are both incredibly stupid to get themselves in hot water over something so petty. It isn’t because Libby didn’t spew his DNA on anybody.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 pmDidn’t Cheney work for Nixon and Ford?!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pm#14
Who wants to sign the apology letter to Jason Leopold?
I’ve been waiting for the rest of the story on that to come out. I never thought Jason was wrong, and we all know what Rove and Gonzales are capable of when it comes down to saving Bush’s ass or influencing the outcome of an election.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pmFitzmas is finally here!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pmSo what’s the surprise?
I could’ve told them that for free…
…without all this money spent on a trial that’s eventually going to end up with…
…two presidential pardons…
…and the usual stick in the people’s eye!
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:49 pmI’ve been patiently waiting, and trusting Mr. Fitzgerald to have prepared well for this case.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:52 pmLooks like he has earned his salary.
Attorney General Fitzgerald has a marvelous ring to it, eh?
Would he still be known as a “Big Time” Dick in jail?
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:55 pmSo Libby perjures himself over a non-crime (Plame was not a covert agent at the time).
Comment by Cynicon Implant
Yes you’re right. The judge has decided to put this to trail and select a jury and waste all this time, effort and taxpayer money over an obvious non-crime. It’s pretty amazing that you are aware of something that all of those involved are not. You should get that info to the judge immediately. Hurry…go….don’t sit there…go…
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:56 pmFirst, impeachment- Then, indictment for war crimes and crimes against humanity. These are the repulsive bottom feeders who masqueraded as political appointees and wanted oil profit so bad, they were willing to kill/maim our own troops and exterminate a whole country of innocent civilians. Git the varmint and git him good!
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmThis may be the point where the american public look at this VP and start seeing the light. He’s going to be sitting right behind the Pres. tonight along with Speaker Pelosi. It will be a great visual of the old and twisted sitting along side the new and invigorated.
This is must see TV.
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmJeez, I hate to rain on everyone’s parade, but you realize that these are allegations by the prosecutor that have yet to be proven, don’t you? That’s, um, the whole reason they’re having this ‘trial’ thingie…
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pm#26..
January 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmYes…….. definitely
Vice presidents who out CIA agents LOSE THEIR JOBS. He’s toast.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:01 pmAsk GHW BUSH on camera if the actions of VP Cheney represent
T R E A S O N.
There is no other word in American law to describe Cheney’s actions.
Arrest the man and get him away from the People’s House.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:01 pm#25. Cheney’s actions were criminal because Valerie Plame’s file was marked as SECRET.
“A classified State Department memorandum central to a federal leak investigation contained information about CIA officer Valerie Plame in a paragraph marked “(S)” for secret, a clear indication that any Bush administration official who read it should have been aware the information was classified, according to current and former government officials. . . CIA classifies as “secret” the names of officers whose identities are covert, according to former senior agency officials. “ –Wash. Post July 21, 2005. (Multiple other sources available, if you search)
So, the difference between Cheney and Clinton is that Cheney is a traitor and a criminal while Clinton is an outstanding leader who had an extramarital affair.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:02 pmCan you say “Vice President McCain?”
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmYes and Donald Rumsfeld worked for Cheney. Rumsfeld was Ronald Reagans special envoy to Iraq and shook hands with Saddam when he was fighting Iran. Dick Cheney was George H W Bush’s Secretary of Defense and said that 600k troops were not enough to occupy Bahgdad after the first Gulf War.
Don’t forget Prescott Bush funding the Nazi Party.
Yes, it has been the same handful of morons fighting the same Crusades for decades and Americans continue voting for them.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmAnybody got newsfile photos from a couple months ago when the Porta-Shredder truck was parked outside the Chainee’s house for a couple of days… just remembering…..
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:04 pmstrong>#35
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:05 pmWe know they are allegations, but under court rules an attorney cannot allege something if he does not have sufficient evidence to back it up. Otherwise it is abuse of process.
Ask GHW BUSH on camera if the actions of VP Cheney represent T R E A S O N.
Comment by ace
He can’t comment on an on-going investigation.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:06 pmHey Cynicon,
THIS
“Plame was not a covert agent at the time”
IS OLD BULLSHIT.
Come up with something new.
There would not have ever been a case if someone exposed a non-undercover agent.
Case Closed.
Verdict = TREASON
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmDubious will be to busy tonight with his State of Delusion speech to take questions. He’s been practicing and polishing hard these past few days, please don’t disturb him now……
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmFrom the Constitution (my emphasis):
Section 2. The President shall … have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.
An impeachment is a form of indictment, but once it has occurred the President can’t stop the trial portion of the proceedings with a pre-emptive pardon like he could a strictly criminal trial (as I read it).
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pm#25 Cynicon Implant
So Libby perjures himself over a non-crime (Plame was not a covert agent at the time).
Wrong. She was a NOC. Whether or not a crime was committed is not at play here. As Fitzgerald so aptly explained, the investigation into whether or not a crime was committed had been obstructed by a lying witness. At this stage, they’re still getting down to the truth of what happened. After the trial is over, there will probably be enough known about what happened that Fitzgerald can continue on, if he sees fit. You don’t know whether or not a crime was committed.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmPLC -
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmImpeach
Convict
Indict
Convict
Incarcerate
Rendition to Hague
Hope for swift justice.
How many lives and families have been destroyed because our top elected officials lied and manipulated their own agenda? What should be done to those elected officials who put their goals in front of their responsibilities to the citizens who elected them?
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:14 pmOF COURSE he destroyed the evidence. OF COURSE Cheney will lie under oath. It’s all a game to these tripped-out wierdos.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 pmLibby and Cheney are only guilty of being Republicans. If you’re a Democrat and your name is Sandy Berger or Slick Willy, then it’s ok to lie and destroy documents.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:16 pmDick Dastardly, your Wacky Race is about to come to a SCREECHING HALT.
Good riddance, you criminal, thug, a**hole.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmRUCerious
The order is important. Save our country, save the world (OK, I admit to being a Heroes fan):
Impeach
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pmConvict
Indict
Convict
Incarcerate
Rendition to Hague
Hope for swift justice.
50. With the qty of those involved shouldn’t it be,
Impeach
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmConvict
indict
repeat
Libby and Cheney are only guilty of being Republicans. If you’re a Democrat and your name is Sandy Berger or Slick Willy, then it’s ok to lie and destroy documents.
Comment by 20wordsorless
Yo, dumbass, the statute of limitation has EXPIRED.
You only have yourself, and limp-dick Republicans to blame for not prosecuting them!
Sorry-assed-LOSERS.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pm53. Not to be cliche, but no one died when clinton lied.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pm#56, yes, the only thing missing is the “rinse and”
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pm#53 - did either of those people expose the identity of a covert CIA agent, thereby committing treason?
I think you’re the one who wants to give a free pass to your “guys” because they’re republicans.
Justice should be blind to party or politics. And just to remind you “Slick Willy” was indeed put through impeachment proceedings on far less of a serious offense than this, so if Repubs really cared about “justice” then they should hold Bush’s feet to the fire just as much if not more.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pm20wol
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmImpeach Millard Fillmore!!!
#53- You forgot to mention that Libby and Cheney are also responsible, at least indirectly, for over three thousand dead, young American men and women, and over 600,000 dead/maimed innocent Iraqi civilians. And Sandy Berger is such a bad boy, for shredding paperwork. Yes, you’re absolutely right.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pm#53
Libby and Cheney are only guilty of being Republicans.
By “Republicans”, I take it that you mean “lying, treasonous scumbags who will do anything to advance themselves or their party and don’t care what kind of damage that might do to the lives of others or the security of the country.” In that case, you’re right. They’re guilty.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:25 pmIt was not clear if Fitzgerald meant that an attempt was made to destroy the note or that Libby had forgotten about it. In any case, the note was recovered and is part of the evidence.
no evidence destroyed then eh
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmFolks this looks bad for Shooter. What’s worse, the MSM appears interested in running with this trial.
You can expect a terrorist alert, attack, or bust before the evening news appears. We can then return our focus to the great distraction: the continuing story of how 19 men brought a nation of 300 million to its knees.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmIf you’re a kool-aid drinking tool of the neocons, it’s OK to lie. Example, say that Sandy Berger “destroyed” documents. It’s OK to make mountains out of molehills. Example, Clinton lying about a consentual extramarital affair is relevent to a charge of sexual harassment. It’s OK to make molehills out of mountains. Example, supporting Bush’s war of choice foisting on the world by distortions and lies.
So far, Libby and Cheney are only guilty of being Republicans. Soon, they may both be found guilty of more.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pm#43, it’s over at wonkette.com
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:27 pm#56 hellinabucket
Good point, for a complete washing away the stink and grime on our country.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pmP O E T I C
J U S T I C E
Send Cheney To “Swift Luck greens” in his home state.
Google it.
Read the designations on the photos carefully.
Got hard labor?
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:34 pmCan everyone think real, real hard and name one good thing Bush has done since 2000? Thats (1) One good thing. Anybody?
He has to have done at least one. I am having trouble personally trying to remember but I just cant get there. This is why I am asking.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:36 pmMy question is what will the masked men putting a noose around Cheney´s neck chant?
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pmthe note was recovered and is part of the evidence.
Fitzgerald also alleged that Libby in September 2003 “wiped out†a Cheney note just before Libby’s first FBI interview when he said he learned about Wilson and his wife, CIA operative Valerie Plame, from reporters, not the vice president.
It was not clear if Fitzgerald meant that an attempt was made to destroy the note or that Libby had forgotten about it. In any case, the note was recovered and is part of the evidence.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 pmCan everyone think real, real hard and name one good thing Bush has done since 2000? Thats (1) One good thing. Anybody?
He has to have done at least one. I am having trouble personally trying to remember but I just cant get there. This is why I am asking.
Comment by posi traction — January 23, 2007 @ 2:36 pm
As long as we’re playing impossible brain-teasers, can anyone name a single US law that applies to GW Bush?
Just one?
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmIs anyone really shocked at this? I’m not.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmWe all know Cheney was behind all this. And he’s behind so much more. His Karma is catching up with him. Ha.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:40 pmGood stuff TP!!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmace. Think I saw him open a door for a lady once. I like the question
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmCheney is gone!!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmThe Poppie Bush Crime Family has so many crimes to coverup that it has no choice other than to prevent any elections from ever occurring again in The United States. Martial Law is essential to their well being.
The CIA is the largest drug operation in the world.
The invasion of Afghanistan led to record poppy crops.
The major trans-shipment point for heroine just happens to be the port of Dubai.
The one shipping company that rushed to the defense of the Dubai Ports World deal just happened to be Israeli-Government-Owned Zim Shipping.
Zim shipping COINCIDENTALLY is the very same company that had the good timing to break their long term lease at the WTC - moving out just weeks prior to 9/11.
The criminals are ALL in too deep.
You can’t even fathom the size of the conspiracy.
The Mossad Agents arrrested on 9/11 (Google: Dancing Israelis) were explosives experts, and the vans they were caught driving contained explosives.
They failed SEVEN polygraph tests prior to being sent back to Israel without charges - by none other that Israeli Mole Michael Chertoff.
Israel owns the software and communications technology that is installed in all of the most sensitive systems in the US. They have the capability to monitor virtually ALL data in the United States…every single phone call, bank transaction, military movement…ALL OF IT.
Bribery, collusion, extortion, blackmail, you name it - that is what’s going on inside the CABAL.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:48 pmDog Breath, so the note wasn’t an unknown known or unknown but it was actually a known unknown with the potential of being a known known.
20wol guilty of being a republican. That’s funny. It’s not a crime to be a republican. Should it though? Then again point to any of the principles of this entire mess and try to tell yourself they are true republicans. If you can do that without laughing or crying then Karl Rove has a job for you. 2012 is just around the corner and with the helf of Fox TV, the american public will have forgotten about this little mess.
guilty of being a republican, damn that’s funny.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:50 pmHome Sweet Home, DICK!
http://www.democracyforums.com/showthread.php?tid=297
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:50 pmMaybe we can put Cheney and Rove in jail after all.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:51 pmsorry kids. Cheney is just fine (well as fine as he can be). GW has said that he authorized Cheney to declasify classified info. Cheney will just say: I was declassifing the info on the fly.
Remember: Scooter boy is not being tried for leaking classified information. He is being tried for the cover up.
In American politics you very rarely get in trouble for the crime. You get in trouble for the cover up. (See Nixon and watergate, Reagan and Iran Contra, Clinton and Monica)
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:52 pmThis administration are FULL LIARS and could careless about the USA.
Face it Bush supporter, if the Pres and VP really want to show they’re telling the TRUTH, they would request ti be UNDER oath and conduct the investigation alone, independent with the prosecuters!
Bush lied and the innocent and Soldiers DIE! They continue to because Bush is NOT man enough to stand up and face the truth, the Iraq War can’t be justified!
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:52 pm#53 I know of no one named slick willy, however if you are referring to our ex president, exactly what did he destroy? AND how did that compromise national security. Also Sandy Berger was fined and punished. Hmmm, I guess it’s not alright.
Anyone notice how the Bush apologists have not said that it is preposterous that this scenario could occur? The best they can come up with is lying about a non-crime retreading the old “she was not covert” Argument. Even though in the beginning it was the CIA who asked to have this looked at.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmBoth of these are Brief – important viewing
David Rockefeller – American Traitor:
Founder of Council On Foreign Relations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ensmPJm5B5A&NR
David Rockefeller & Dick Cheney:
American Traitors…
Cheney laughs about lying to his constituents in order to get elected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdxLYuvvbgs&NR
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmDubious has spared a number of overweight, white, genetically impaired turkeys every Thanksgiving.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmHowever, this questionable good deed is far outweighed by a far greater number of the same who he has given jobs and political appointments to.
In her testimony, Rice said:
“No one could have foreseen the hijacking of commercial aircraft and using them as missiles, flying them into buildings.”
On the morning of 9/11, Vice President Cheney, in concert with NORAD, was running a drill to simulate the hijacking of commercial aircraft and using them as missiles flying them into buildings.
LIARS.
GUILTY LIARS.
GUILTY OF TREASON, HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.
GUILTY OF 9/11
THEY ALL KNEW.
THEY DID IT!
I M P E A C H ! ! !
I M P E A C H ! ! !
I M P E A C H ! ! !
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:56 pmNobody is being charged YET with leaking the info.
This court case may very well open a bag of worms with open testimony under oath that will shed light on the whole topic….exactly what Libby & Cheney did not want.
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:58 pmWhy was Dick Cheney meeting with a notorious “terrorist” supporter in the 1990’s? Why did the CEO of Ptech confirm Cheney’s close relationship to this man? What role did Ptech play in Cheney’s activities on 9/11?
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/ searchResults.jsp?searchtext=cheney&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go
Mid-1990s: Al-Qadi Claims Good Relationship with Cheney
Saudi multimillionaire Yassin al-Qadi will say in an interview shortly after 9/11, “I have also met with US Vice President and former Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney in Jeddah [Saudi Arabia]. I spoke to him for a long time and we still have cordial relations.†The US had named al-Qadi a supporter of terrorism and frozen his assets two days before.
Oussama Ziade, CEO of Ptech, a US computer company that al-Qadi had invested in and that will be raided for suspected terrorism ties, later will claim that al-Qadi “talked very highly of his relationship†with Cheney. Ziade will claim he only knew al-Qadi for a few years starting around 1994, so presumably the contact between al-Qadi and Cheney happens during the mid-1990s.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/ cgi-bin/ archive.cgi?read=68463
“Ptech was with MITRE Corporation in the basement of the FAA for two years prior to 9/11,” Singh said. “Their specific job is to look at interoperability issues the FAA had with NORAD and the Air Force in the case of an emergency. If anyone was in a position to know that the FAA – that there was a window of opportunity or to insert software or to change anything – it would have been Ptech along with MITRE.”
http://www.rumormillnews.com/ cgi-bin/ archive.cgi?read=68985
Ptech “produced software that derived from PROMIS, had an artificial intelligence core, and was installed on virtually every computer system of the U.S. government and its military agencies on September 11, 2001,”
January 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pmThere is an even bigger picture to this sordid affair. Remember during the 6 month run-up to the Iraq war when the phrase “terrorists and weapons of mass destruction†was repeated around the clock ad nauseam to justify (falsely) the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq? In destroying the Brewster-Jennings weapons of mass destruction tracking network, which was Valerie Plame’s cover company, Cheney et al. have, in effect, handed over weapons of mass destruction to dangerous people. In other words they are aiding and abetting “terroristsâ€. This is the crime the Cheney regime accuse everyone else of – including the people of Iraq and Afghanistan, the Guantanamo prisoners, Maher Arar, and anyone who opposes their policies, etc. The “war on terror†is thus exposed as a sham and involves unspeakable crimes, for which, as many of you have accurately noted, they should be held accountable.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pmCheney was in the Washington bunker, while Bush was at the school. He was in command. Scholars for 911 Truth point out
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/
that Secretary of Transportation, Mineta Confirm this. Others point out he was also conducting numerous military drills that day that did confuse land workers.
Mineta’s testimony is devastating,” observed James H. Fetzer, Ph.D., McKnight Professor at the University of Minnesota. Fetzer is the founder and co-chair of the scholars’ society, which recently joined with Judicial Watch in calling for release of documents, films and videos, and physical evidence withheld from the public by the administration. “It pulls the plug on the Commission’s contention there was no advance warning that the Pentagon was going to be hit.”
According to Secretary Mineta’s testimony, which is in the public domain, when he (Mineta) arrived at an underground bunker at the White House (known as the Presidential Emergency Operations Center), the Vice President was in charge. “During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon”, he stated, “there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, ‘The plane is 50 miles out.’ ‘The plane is 30 miles out.’
“And when it got down to, ‘The plane is 10 miles out,’” Mineta continued, “the young man also said to the Vice President, ‘Do the orders still stand?’ And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, ‘Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?’” One way to construe these remarks could be that the orders were to shoot down the plane.
The scholars suggest that that is an implausible interpretation. The Pentagon, they observe, may be the most heavily defended building in the world. If the orders had been to “shoot it down,” then no doubt it would have been shot down. Moreover, there would have been no apparent reason for the young man to have expressed concern over whether or not “the orders still stand.” Shooting it down, under the circumstances, would have been the thing to do.
“The only reasonable interpretation of the orders,” Fetzer observed, “is that the incoming aircraft should not be shot down, which would have been an obvious source of anxiety for an aide. Since it contradicts the official story about the Pentagon,” he added, “it had to be suppressed and was not even included in The 9/11 Commission Report.” And other scholars, including Professor David Ray Griffin of Claremont Graduate University, have drawn the same conclusion.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:00 pm#79 ace Martial Law is really scary. I hope you are wrong on this one.
We need to impeach Cheney and than Bush. We will have Pelosi as our President. We will get our America back.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmIsn’t it cool that Cheney is starting to be attacked from other directions for the first time?
Mondale speaking out against him?
McCain denouncing him yesterday or today?
Just before this trial… I hope he and his evil smirk slink off to Wyoming soon.
We’ve got to keep the pressure on…. effing liars.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmI haven’t read all the post yet but I want to say one thing.
You know, there is this thing called “Presumption of innocence” that is part of this document that people like to scream about. I think it is call the Constitution. How about applying it?
Once Cheny has had his day in court, then you can hang him.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmMaybe we’ll finally find out who killed Jon Binet Ramsey?
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmi hold my oath to the american flag to be the utmost sacred,
flawless, honest, integrity, to serve all people in a land where
$ in god we trust, will never ever lie, degrade, or otherwise
commit a evil or dishonest act :)
in reality, corruption is very much a reality….. god only knows
what god they trust as stated on the $ we trust, schemes,
scandals, all the wonderful services we all desperately need
from a bunch of lawless attorneys in the city with the absolutely
highest crime rate, yachts/nonprofits/mansions….. cronyism…
can’t even get these thugs to work 3 day work week because
of their totally corrupted family values.
sorry to say…. enough to make me/you **** :(
well i certainly didn’t understand nixons scandal when i was a kid,
but i certainly understand the bush/cheney/109th congress
total corruption this time
enough to p**e them right out of office FOREVER :)
oh ya… their public servants all right, sounds like a bunch of
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmja hob bee crooks :) … oh just a little “white lie”
Cheney should be forced to resign…many Rethugs in Congress may demand it now.
Once he’s out of the way, Bush will be forced to nominate a confirmable Veep…like Richard Lugar. At that point, Bush becomes instantly impeachable because a sensible Veep is waiting in the wings.
The push now should be for Cheney to resign.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmComment by hacker bob — January 23, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Justice, Baghdad style.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmOnce Cheny has had his day in court, then you can hang him.
Comment by hacker bob
I think we’ve watched too much Nancy Grace to presume someone’s innocence. He’s guilty…lock him up now. heh
Anyway there has been a big build up to this and please excuse those of us that relish seeing these pigs put to the fire.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:15 pmAccording to the US State Department, the definition of TERRORISM is not confined to the physical act of killing.
Terrorism occurs when a state utilizes fear tactics against its own people to accomplish political objectives.
The mere act or announcing a falsely construed terror alert - or overplaying the significance of a plot known not to be viable - is itself terrorism.
Tom Ridge admitted that many of the Terror Alerts announced under his command were in fact phony.
Remember the run on duct tape?
That was a clear case of state sponsored terrorism by the Government of the United States under the direction of Karl Rove against the people of the United States to achieve a political objective.
Karl Rove is a Terrorist under the definition ascribed by the US State Department.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmand cheney’s little white lie is just a tip of the iceberg.
- how can the CIA get corrupted
- how can the dept. of defense get corrupted
- how can healthcare get so corrupted
- how can the economy/jobs/outsourcing get so corrupted
- how can the white house/congress get so corrupted
Gee… they under biblical oath are such trusted servants, we
all pledge alligance, and a fib is a rarity in the land of those
who worked so hard, with so much integrity, that are right
next to God… to serve the people…….. :)
I SMELL A SKUNK AND THAT ICEBERG/CORRUPTION/SCANDAL
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmHAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES :( ENOUGH TO P.U.K.E
THEM RIGHT OUT OF OFFICE AND INTO HELL/SLAMMER
= take us all to the cleaners and they go scott free - - just
just a little white lie… a, a minimal ethics issue :(
Cheney on Meet The Press:
Videotape, March 16, 2003):
MR. RUSSERT: And even though the International Atomic Energy Agency said he does not have a nuclear program, we disagree.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: I disagree, yes. And you’ll find the CIA, for example, and other key parts of our intelligence community, disagree.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons. I think Mr. ElBaradei, frankly, is wrong. And I think if you look at the track record of the International Atomic Energy Agency and this kind of issue, especially where Iraq is concerned, they have consistently underestimated or missed what it was Saddam Hussein was doing. I don’t have any reason to believe they’re any more valid this time than they’ve been in the past.
Regarding Cheney’s frequent trips to the CIA, Russert asks if he applied pressure to achieve a desired intelligence work product:
MR. RUSSERT: No pressure?
VICE PRES. CHENEY: Shouldn’t be any pressure. I can’t think of a single instance. Maybe somebody can produce one. I’m unaware of any where the community changed a judgment that they made because I asked questions.
MR. RUSSERT: If they were wrong, Mr. Vice President, shouldn’t we have a wholesale investigation into the intelligence failure that they predicted…
VICE PRES. CHENEY: What failure?
MR. RUSSERT: That Saddam had biological, chemical and is developing a nuclear program.
VICE PRES. CHENEY: My guess is in the end, they’ll be proven right, Tim.
So I say I’m not willing at all at this point to buy the proposition that somehow Saddam Hussein was innocent and he had no WMD and some guy out at the CIA, because I called him, cooked up a report saying he did.
That’s crazy. That makes no sense. It bears no resemblance to reality whatsoever.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3080244/
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pmLedeen = Evil For Israel
Many neocons can trace their status back to Professor Leo Strauss of the University of Chicago. One of Strauss’ books was Thoughts on Machiavelli. This book was not a condemnation of Machiavelli’s philosophy. Paul Wolfowitz actually got his PhD under Strauss. Others closely associated with these views are Richard Perle, Eliot Abrams, Robert Kagan and William Kristol. Others include: Michael Ledeen of the American Enterprise Institute; former CIA Director James Woolsy; Bill Bennett of Book of Virtues fame; Frank Gaffney; Dick Cheney; and Donald Rumsfeld.
They unconditionally support Israel and have a close alliance with the Likud Party.
If anyone doubts this assertion, they need only to read of their strategy in “A Clean Break: a New Strategy for Securing the Realm.â€
They have been amazingly successful in their efforts to control the debate over what Western values are and by what methods they will be spread throughout the world.
In 1999, Michael Ledeen’s book, Machiavelli on Modern Leadership, was passed out to Members of Congress at just about the time A Clean Break was issued. In The War Against the Terror Masters, he reiterates his beliefs:
“They must attack us in order to survive, just as we must destroy them to advance our historic mission.â€
War is not coincidental to neocon philosophy, but an integral part. There’s a precise reason to argue for war over peace according to Ledeen, for “…peace increases our peril by making discipline less urgent, encouraging some of our worst instincts, in depriving us of some of our best leaders.â€
Ledeen explains: “In order to achieve the most noble accomplishments, the leader may have to ‘enter into evil.’ This is the chilling insight that has made Machiavelli so feared, admired and challenging…we are rotten,â€. “It’s true that we can achieve greatness if, and only if, we are properly led.â€
The question Ledeen doesn’t answer is: “Why do the political leaders not suffer from the same shortcomings and where do they obtain their monopoly on wisdom?â€
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul110.html
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmComment by Briseadh na Faire
Oh,
Come,
On.
It was a figure of speach. (kinda’)
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmCheney’s head on a platter, pretty please?
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmYou know, there is this thing called “Presumption of innocence†that is part of this document that people like to scream about. I think it is call the Constitution. How about applying it?
Once Cheny has had his day in court, then you can hang him.
Comment by hacker bob — January 23, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
What does this guy have to do before his actions become suspect… shoot you in the face?
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmAdministration supporters will rally round the battle cry of “they’re persecuting us because we are republicans. They will completely ignore the whole culture of corruption that permeates the republican party. They will completely ignore the massive level of incompetence, greed, immorality and overall criminal activity that so many republicans have taken to with such gusto. Nope it will help these people to sleep better at night knowing that their hero’s only crimes were for being republican.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmThe red warning signal is up! Watch out everyone for the true terrorists. They live in America and run the Government on lies and unconstitutional mandates; are responsible for thousands of innocent people being killed, incarcerated, tortured, maimed and displaced. We lost 3000 people during 9/11. More than 3000 of our brave soldiers have been killed, while over 600,000 Iraqis have have died. Watch out everyone! The Administration is gearing up to wage war on Iran. Invasion will probably take place in March or April. It is possible that our best friends, the Israelis, might NUKE Iran. Get active and contact your representatives. Demand that Impeachment investigations proceed quickly. We must get rid of these criminals. Two more years is too long to wait.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 pmWhere’s Exley?
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha…
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmComment by SortaLikeJake
Suspect is the key word,
And no, I would not got hunting with him.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmWhere’s Exley?
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha…
Comment by eternal springs — January 23, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
The right-wingers are anxiously awaiting their GOP talking points via email or fax.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmI love it. Where are all the a## wipes on the right who said that this case has no legs?? Cheney is prison?? Bush impeached?? republican party reduced to minority party forever?? I LOVE THIS!!!!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2006/ 04/ 07/ outcry-builds-over-bush-l_n_18680.html?p=31#comments
Closing down our best source of covert intelligence on WMD in the Middle East by making its covert status public - during a time of war - is akin to revealing troop movements and positions to the enemy - during a time of war.
It’s TREASON on it’s face.
Doing so for POLITICAL reasons is IMPEACHABLE.
BUSH, CHENEY, ROVE & LIBBY all knew that Plame was a covert agent - and a key enemy if their lies were to succeed. Everyone in the WHIG knew. They all conspired to prevent the truth about WMD from being made public
When referring to Wilson, each of them at one time or another referred to him as “a Democrat.”
That’s POLITICAL.
That’s ILLEGAL.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmthe president hugely abused his authority and powers, wrongfully, and he stood in front of cameras and reporters and lied about it, willfully, repeatedly. he engaged in a willful conspiracy to go after Joe Wilson for debunking the lie about uranium, and he happily burned down a CIA operative and her operations with a LEAK of information. if there was a declassification, it was certainly not recorded or documented or communicated, and, in all likelihood, was made up after the fact once the Fitzgerald investigation got going.
This same president has deployed the NSA and who knows which other components of the national intelligence apparatus against the American people in direct violation of federal law.
he has abused and abused his trust and the power of his office, and it is time for him to leave that office.
.. “I don’t know of anyone in my administration who has leaked,” Mr. Bush told reporters in Chicago. But, he added, “If somebody did leak classified information, I’d like to know it, and we’ll take the appropriate action. And this investigation is a good thing.”
The president added, “There’s too much leaking in Washington. That’s just the way it is. We’ve had leaks from the executive branch and leaks from the legislative branch. I want to know who the leakers are.” …
George Bush, lying about his own leak: http://www.cbsnews.com/ stories/ 2003/ 10/ 01/ national/ main575986.shtml…
Donald Rumsfeld on Leakers of Secret Information:
… No, I’ll tell you about leaks. When a person takes classified information and gives it to someone who is not cleared for classified information, whether the person’s from the Pentagon or any department of government, they’re violating federal criminal law. And they ought to go to jail. That’s not complicated.
Kalb: What are the laws they are violating? Just –
Rumsfeld: The laws relating to classified information are quite strict as to who may be given access to that information. And so to the extent that people violate the rules with respect to classified information, they are breaking federal criminal law.
Now, they are also potentially putting people’s lives at risk, and that’s a very — it’s a terrible thing to do …
http://www.defenselink.mil/ transcripts/ 2002/ t04102002_t0410sd.html…
Scott McClellan, lying about Bush’s leak:
“If someone in this administration leaked classified information, they will no longer be a part of this administration, because that’s not the way this White House operates.”
It’s the modern Republican way. Commit a crime today; legalize the act tomorrow.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmJust one day after co-conspirator lost to Lamont in the Democratic Primary, The Bush Administration launched this False Flag Scare Tactic for their pals at AIPAC:
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T H A T
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L O N D O N
S U S P E C T S
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T I C K E T S
A N D
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A T T A C K
W A S
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I M M I N E N T
T H R E A T
R I V A L I N G
9 / 11
T O T A L
B U L L S H I T ! ! !
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 pmWhere are all the a## wipes on the right who said that this case has no legs?? Cheney is prison?? Bush impeached?? republican party reduced to minority party forever?? I LOVE THIS!!!!!
Comment by Marcus Robinson
You might want to wait until the trial is over Marcus. Last time we nailed someone destroying confidential documents (Sandy Berger ring a bell?), they got off with a $50K fine and a slap on the wrist. Something similar is likely to happen here — Washington protects its own — regardless of party.
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pm#55 Save our country, save the world (OK, I admit to being a Heroes fan):
Rather say:
Impeach a cheerleader, save the world!
January 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pmYeah, we wish Cheney would be held accountable for his crimes. I’m not holding my breath here.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pmImpeach a cheerleader, save the world!
Comment by Tenebrae
Basically what I posted. I’m going for order of intervention, U.S. first to be saved. You’re going for strategy for doing so, impeachment. I agree, to save the U.S. BushCo must be out of office. Then, the U.S. can work on getting right with the world again.
Then, again, yours is funnier!
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 pmCongress needs to be thinking of a possible action plan here.
Scenario. Things start to get dicey for Cheney. It appears that he’s going to be indicted. Easy solutions for Bush.
1 - He invokes National Security and prevents further action.
2 - He pardons Libby and/or Cheney for any and all actions.
Why does this feel like Nixon and some of the things that were happening vis a vis Watergate?
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmWhat I want to know about Cheney is . . . does he bring the heat of Hell into a room with him when he enters it, or, does he travel with some sort of concealed mobile refigeration unit?
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:09 pmGet real, you ‘merkans won’t do a damned thing. Youv’e proven it over and over.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:12 pmStop harping on your revolution … this is now.
Now, why isn’t Cheney indicted, yet? It’s obvious that Libby was a mere stooge who later became the John Dean of his generation- someone told to fall on his sword to protect the “President’s” and “Vice President’s” Office. Oh, and Karl “Turdblossom” Rove’s office, as well.
If a new grand jury hasn’t got the grounds to indict at least Cheney, then there is no rule of law, anymore.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pmBtw, I’m the guy who had originated the “Impeach the Cheerleader, Save the World” line. Check it out on my blog.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmHow can anyone on the right be able to look at the President tonight and think this is the man that can still lead us? He allowed Rove and Cheney to practice their dark magic and it’s been a slow leak failure that even the staunchest supportors of Bush admit was wrong.
He’s failed. And he will look like a complete failure tonight.
I wonder if Bush’s tie will match or clash with Pelosi’s dress.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pmIsn’t it funny that we (liberals) were right about this too?
How ever do we know so many prescient things?
Reality is logical… Just follow the trail and anyone can “see” the “future”… LOL
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pmWe do predict the future here, all the time.
Today I see Scooter ratting out the real criminals, and then we all shout out “we told you so”.
I can tell the future of other things too. Just ask me. :)
I predict I will go to a meeting at 3pm.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:30 pmI’m not watching the SOTU tonight. I’ll blog with yall on it. I’m done with the chimp.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmmy understanding is that msnbc has retracted the critical part of this story…the note in question is in evidence.
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:38 pmWe do predict the future here, all the time.
I guess it’s much like predicting that a brakeless car speeding toward the egde of a cliff will go over it and crash… While the neocons think Superman will rush to stop it.
Today I see Scooter ratting out the real criminals, and then we all shout out “we told you soâ€.
I’m just glad that he finally cracked. At a very inconvenient time for the White House (Dems in charge of Congress).
I can tell the future of other things too. Just ask me. :)
Who will be elected President in 2008?
I predict I will go to a meeting at 3pm.
Comment by ForTruth — January 23, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
LOL
January 23rd, 2007 at 4:44 pmHey Dick, can you buy into that?
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:11 pmWe can’t impeach Cheney. If so, Bush will appoint McCain to give him a head start on the 2008 presidential election. Just keep Cheney around as a symbol of the culture of corruption the Dems are fighting.
TS
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:12 pmLet Cheney be tried in Iraq by the same court that tried Saddam.
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:13 pm133. Let McCain become VP. He’ll be saddled with the escalation (in dollars, lives lost and discontent of the american people).
found this out in web world:
. Q: How long would it take to eject a vice president from office by impeachment?
A: Theoretically it could be done in a day. In the morning a member of the House of Representatives could propose one or more Articles of Impeachment and then a vote could be called. A simple majority (50% plus one vote) is all that is needed to impeach. In the afternoon the Senate could try the case. A two-thirds vote is needed in the Senate to convict.
Why so quick? Because it’s political and not judicial.
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:29 pmI never read so many hate messages. This site is full of hate and poison. This is insane. You all should be hospitalized. Take it easy guys and gals. Relax a bit. Life is beautiful, with the VP or without him. It does not matter really.
January 23rd, 2007 at 5:55 pmIt does not matter really.
Comment by why? — January 23, 2007 @ 5:55 pm
Of course it does. See Nazi Germany for an example on why it matters.
You’re confusing hate with being vigil - which is what Thomas Jefferson expected from us (you know who he is, right?)
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:04 pm#117 Cynicon Implant
Last time we nailed someone destroying confidential documents (Sandy Berger ring a bell?)…
You can sure tell who’s been watching Fox News. With all the stuff that’s out there to report on–Bush’s plan for escalation, Republicans standing up against it, Libby on trial and pointing the finger at Cheney and Rove, corruption investigations continuing, etc.–the only network that thinks that dredging up old stuff on Sandy Berger is necessary would be Fox. What’s the matter? Haven’t there been any blonde white girls murdered lately?
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:05 pm#136 why?
I never read so many hate messages. This site is full of hate and poison. This is insane. You all should be hospitalized. Take it easy guys and gals. Relax a bit. Life is beautiful, with the VP or without him. It does not matter really.
Well, Princess, if you had poked your head out from under that rock a little sooner and noticed what the Veep and the Prez and all their little cohorts have been doing, you might have an inkling about why they’re bad news for the country and need to be removed from office ASAP.
If all that’s just too frightening for you, crawl back under the rock and stay there.
Oh dear, I hope I didn’t scar the poor little thing by being so blunt.
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:11 pmNot “Treason”.
This is “Treason during a time of war”
Only one legal recourse…..
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:13 pmCig.
Blindfold.
Don’t pop the champaigne corks just yet. This vile gang seems impervious to any and all evidence or smoking guns leveled at them. Just look at what’s been uncovered to date, and they’re STILL doing their destructive business-even with a Democratic Congress in office.
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:22 pmWhat is going on here?
I thought Libby was totally cleared!
I even saw Ken Melhman repeat that statement like 25-30 times with he was on with Timmy!
Bush Cleared Plame Info: Libby Exonerated!!
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:23 pmAnd to think, these are the same people who impeached Bill Clinton for havin sex?!?!?
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:24 pm[…] Full article with video here. […]
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:34 pm142. Your first mistake is that you thought. Second one is using the defrocked Ken Melh(I do love)man. If this country spent millions on finding out President Clinton cheated on his wife we can surely look into if this current administration has distorted evidence that sent us into a conflict that is costing over 500 billion with projections over 1 trillion dollars.
If you can’t see that that would be your third mistake followed by many, many more.
January 23rd, 2007 at 6:56 pm[…] The Idiot has been deliberately ignoring coverage of the trial of Scooter Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, accused of leaking sensitive material to the press and then perjuring himself about it. But blogospheric chatter has it that Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is using Libby’s trial as essentially a discovery action against Cheney. For more from around the blogosphere, see Byron York at the Corner, Think Progress, and Digby, with two hat tips to Kevin Drum. […]
January 23rd, 2007 at 7:04 pmPlease, When are these “people” going to be impeached?
January 23rd, 2007 at 7:10 pmMost people in America have no time to go chasing down who is who in our government. Let alone start any impeachment proceedings.
This country is up to its neck fed up with this war and to be frank and candid, they are just too damn tired to bring about any exhaustive 1-3 year fever pitched battle with the Bush Administration.
Our country is just not ready for an impeachment. I am not for or against impeachment I havent made up my mind yet, but people like me with that same attitude, their numbers run in the millions.
What a few say here at TPro does not really matter. Your voices are merely typing into a message box versus the yawns of millions of other Americans.
Do yourselves and your country a favor. Just foget about this impeachment thinking let alone going so far as to actually plan the proceedings themselves. This is merely fantasy relayed via a message box by impeachment pushers.
Stop banging your head against the wall, it aint never gonna happen, this impeachment that you have planned from start to finish.
America does not want it, need it or deserve it.
It is for ” the greater good ” of the country that impeachment thought be banished.
No matter how much some in the national minority on this issue would want it and welcome it, sometimes you just have to lay that aside and be a true patriot and swallow your own vitriol for ” the greater good ” just as stated in our constitution.
January 23rd, 2007 at 7:20 pmMost people in America have no time to go chasing down who is who in our government. Let alone start any impeachment proceedings.
This country is up to its neck fed up with this war and to be frank and candid, they are just too damn tired to bring about any exhaustive 1-3 year fever pitched battle with the Bush Administration.
Our country is just not ready for an impeachment. I am not for or against impeachment I havent made up my mind yet, but people like me with that same attitude, their numbers run in the millions.
What a few say here at TPro does not really matter. Your voices are merely typing into a message box versus the yawns of millions of other Americans.
Do yourselves and your country a favor. Just foget about this impeachment thinking let alone going so far as to actually plan the proceedings themselves. This is merely fantasy relayed via a message box by impeachment pushers.
Stop banging your head against the wall, it aint never gonna happen, this impeachment that you have planned from start to finish.
America does not want it, need it or deserve it.
It is for ” the greater good ” of the country that impeachment thought be banished.
No matter how much some in the national minority on this issue would want it and welcome it, sometimes you just have to lay that aside and be a true patriot and swallow your own vitriol for ” the greater good ” just as stated in our constitution.
January 23rd, 2007 at 7:22 pmDearest #136,
Your ability to type while frolicking through the daisies is both amusingly astonishing, and astonishingly amusing. Try Baghdad as your next vacation destination.
… or maybe New Orlean