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		<title>By: Joseph</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-4312660</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Joseph&lt;/strong&gt;

I just wanted to write to say that you have a great site and a wonderful resource for all to share.</description>
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<p>I just wanted to write to say that you have a great site and a wonderful resource for all to share.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=4312660', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kkjive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1531117</link>
		<dc:creator>kkjive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 06:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree pnut, I am writting a paper on abortion for college and I get mad just reading about it. Every women that even considers it need to checked into a mental hospital. How can someone just kill a cute baby. I do not care if my life was at stake, I have lived, and that baby deserves to have a chance at life. I have a 8 year old and a 6 month old. I wabt to cry just thinking about how people can kill babies. I think that if a mother has a partial abortion she needs to be convicted for murder. For those who agree with abortion, how would you feel if your wife had an abortion. Killed your very son or daughter. And for the wife, what if your husband wanted you to have an abortion? How does that make you feel. What if your mother killed you. You would not even be here to give your opinion on this topic. God say to be kind and not comitt murder. For the women that do not want kids and has an abortion everytime she gets pregnant. STOP KILLING!!!!! USE BIRTH CONTROL!!!!! ABORTION IS NOT A FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree pnut, I am writting a paper on abortion for college and I get mad just reading about it. Every women that even considers it need to checked into a mental hospital. How can someone just kill a cute baby. I do not care if my life was at stake, I have lived, and that baby deserves to have a chance at life. I have a 8 year old and a 6 month old. I wabt to cry just thinking about how people can kill babies. I think that if a mother has a partial abortion she needs to be convicted for murder. For those who agree with abortion, how would you feel if your wife had an abortion. Killed your very son or daughter. And for the wife, what if your husband wanted you to have an abortion? How does that make you feel. What if your mother killed you. You would not even be here to give your opinion on this topic. God say to be kind and not comitt murder. For the women that do not want kids and has an abortion everytime she gets pregnant. STOP KILLING!!!!! USE BIRTH CONTROL!!!!! ABORTION IS NOT A FORM OF BIRTH CONTROL!!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1531117', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pnut</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1530753</link>
		<dc:creator>pnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of you men just shut up, you have no right to even state your opinion on the matter of &quot;abortion &quot; As for all the Women who are for it..... what is this world coming to, disgusting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of you men just shut up, you have no right to even state your opinion on the matter of &#8220;abortion &#8221; As for all the Women who are for it&#8230;.. what is this world coming to, disgusting!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1530753', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: apskipper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1530457</link>
		<dc:creator>apskipper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abortion is against God&#039;s rules. If a women can lay down and spread her legs, she should be willing to take on the resposablity of raising a child. Everyone knows how children come into this world. There are several women who want children, but can not have one. There are other options rather than abortion for women to choose from. People need to grow up and learn responsablity. This is coming from a mother of 5, who had her first child at 15 years old. There is your responsablity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abortion is against God&#8217;s rules. If a women can lay down and spread her legs, she should be willing to take on the resposablity of raising a child. Everyone knows how children come into this world. There are several women who want children, but can not have one. There are other options rather than abortion for women to choose from. People need to grow up and learn responsablity. This is coming from a mother of 5, who had her first child at 15 years old. There is your responsablity!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1530457', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kkjive</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1530373</link>
		<dc:creator>kkjive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that anyone who is for partial birth abortion needs to have their head examined. Does this make since?----- If man kills his wife and unborn child, he goes to jail with 2 murder convition, now if a women kills her unborn baby, it is okay, it is her body. How is that justice when both are committing the same crime. Demacrates need to have their heads checked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that anyone who is for partial birth abortion needs to have their head examined. Does this make since?&#8212;&#8211; If man kills his wife and unborn child, he goes to jail with 2 murder convition, now if a women kills her unborn baby, it is okay, it is her body. How is that justice when both are committing the same crime. Demacrates need to have their heads checked.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1530373', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeri</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1527432</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;partial birth abortion is an unfortunate compromise for ending pregnancy late in gestation. the best medical procedure, with the least risk of morbidity or mortality, would be to perform the â€œabortionâ€ post-partum. there is absolutely no health risk to the mother, and the neonate could be given anesthetic (followed of course by KCl) to calm down the moralistic bible-thumpers.

raising a child is no small matter. &lt;strong&gt;mothers should be given at least six months following birth to make this weighty decision. &lt;/strong&gt;Comment by sarah&lt;/em&gt;

I think that we should be able to perform an  &quot;abortion&quot; on you, you &lt;strong&gt;SICK MOTHER F*&amp;KER. &lt;/strong&gt;

Needless to say, as a mother of three, I am comlpetely offended by your statement. 

Do the world a favor, don&#039;t reproduce!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>partial birth abortion is an unfortunate compromise for ending pregnancy late in gestation. the best medical procedure, with the least risk of morbidity or mortality, would be to perform the â€œabortionâ€ post-partum. there is absolutely no health risk to the mother, and the neonate could be given anesthetic (followed of course by KCl) to calm down the moralistic bible-thumpers.</p>
<p>raising a child is no small matter. <strong>mothers should be given at least six months following birth to make this weighty decision. </strong>Comment by sarah</em></p>
<p>I think that we should be able to perform an  &#8220;abortion&#8221; on you, you <strong>SICK MOTHER F*&amp;KER. </strong></p>
<p>Needless to say, as a mother of three, I am comlpetely offended by your statement. </p>
<p>Do the world a favor, don&#8217;t reproduce!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1527432', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hacker bob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526573</link>
		<dc:creator>hacker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by sarah 

If I follow what you are saying correctly, you are talking about murdering an infant. Once it leaves the womb and is alive, you can not say it is not a life.</description>
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<p>If I follow what you are saying correctly, you are talking about murdering an infant. Once it leaves the womb and is alive, you can not say it is not a life.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526573', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hacker bob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526558</link>
		<dc:creator>hacker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by shelly turner

Thouching story. Seriously.

But did little Tina wait until she was 30 weeks pregnant? If she did not come talk to you about it well before 20 weeks( much less 30), then you have other issues to deal with as well. 

&lt;em&gt;and I didnt do such a good job at talking to Tina about sex &lt;/em&gt;

This is very key statement. You were negligent in your duties as a parent.

Here are things I see in what you wrote.

&quot;I didn&#039;t have time to teach her properly about sex.&quot;

But you had time to discuss abortion?

&quot;I don&#039;t have time to raise another child&quot;

But what if you were to come up pregnant? Would you have time then?

 Again, I have never said to make abortion illegal. I voiced a PERSONAL opinion about late term/partial birth abortion.</description>
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<p>Thouching story. Seriously.</p>
<p>But did little Tina wait until she was 30 weeks pregnant? If she did not come talk to you about it well before 20 weeks( much less 30), then you have other issues to deal with as well. </p>
<p><em>and I didnt do such a good job at talking to Tina about sex </em></p>
<p>This is very key statement. You were negligent in your duties as a parent.</p>
<p>Here are things I see in what you wrote.</p>
<p>&#8220;I didn&#8217;t have time to teach her properly about sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>But you had time to discuss abortion?</p>
<p>&#8220;I don&#8217;t have time to raise another child&#8221;</p>
<p>But what if you were to come up pregnant? Would you have time then?</p>
<p> Again, I have never said to make abortion illegal. I voiced a PERSONAL opinion about late term/partial birth abortion.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526524</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shelly,

what an amazing story.  it&#039;s stories like these that show us why abortion is so needed.  can you imagine how terrible it would be if the extremists had their way and forced us to live in a world where we had to deal with mistakes like these?

partial birth abortion is an unfortunate compromise for ending pregnancy late in gestation.  the best medical procedure, with the least risk of morbidity or mortality, would be to perform the &quot;abortion&quot; post-partum.  there is absolutely no health risk to the mother, and the neonate could be given anesthetic (followed of course by KCl) to calm down the moralistic bible-thumpers.

raising a child is no small matter.  mothers should be given at least six months following birth to make this weighty decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shelly,</p>
<p>what an amazing story.  it&#8217;s stories like these that show us why abortion is so needed.  can you imagine how terrible it would be if the extremists had their way and forced us to live in a world where we had to deal with mistakes like these?</p>
<p>partial birth abortion is an unfortunate compromise for ending pregnancy late in gestation.  the best medical procedure, with the least risk of morbidity or mortality, would be to perform the &#8220;abortion&#8221; post-partum.  there is absolutely no health risk to the mother, and the neonate could be given anesthetic (followed of course by KCl) to calm down the moralistic bible-thumpers.</p>
<p>raising a child is no small matter.  mothers should be given at least six months following birth to make this weighty decision.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526524', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shelly turner</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526392</link>
		<dc:creator>shelly turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is mot medically necessary, what would be a valid reason? 

Comment by hacker bob 


Umm?

   Little Tina decided to play with the boys one summer and well, Herb and I didnt do such a good job at talking to Tina about sex and well, one thing led to another, it was a birds and bees summer for her for sure and now with school going to be starting next month my little girl admitted she slept with Thad her boyfriend and everything is fine on the homefront now.

Except the little problem of the baby.

My daughter is a child herself who screwed up by sleeping around unprotected and slightly underage. But hey, hormones make even male deer do crazy things like jump through patio windows.

My daughter has decided as have I, that neither her or I have no time in our lives for a mistake that was made over the summer. 

This mistake would effect my daughter for the rest of her life and quite possibly in a negative way.

We are glad as a parent and daughter that we have alternatives besides coming to full term and adopting the baby out.

We are busy people and the last thing Herb and I ever wanted was our 15 year old daughter to be having daughters and then I and Herb get stuck raising TWO generations instead of just one.

That is supposed to be my daughters job when she is ready.
And she will decide when that time will be.

Not you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is mot medically necessary, what would be a valid reason? </p>
<p>Comment by hacker bob </p>
<p>Umm?</p>
<p>   Little Tina decided to play with the boys one summer and well, Herb and I didnt do such a good job at talking to Tina about sex and well, one thing led to another, it was a birds and bees summer for her for sure and now with school going to be starting next month my little girl admitted she slept with Thad her boyfriend and everything is fine on the homefront now.</p>
<p>Except the little problem of the baby.</p>
<p>My daughter is a child herself who screwed up by sleeping around unprotected and slightly underage. But hey, hormones make even male deer do crazy things like jump through patio windows.</p>
<p>My daughter has decided as have I, that neither her or I have no time in our lives for a mistake that was made over the summer. </p>
<p>This mistake would effect my daughter for the rest of her life and quite possibly in a negative way.</p>
<p>We are glad as a parent and daughter that we have alternatives besides coming to full term and adopting the baby out.</p>
<p>We are busy people and the last thing Herb and I ever wanted was our 15 year old daughter to be having daughters and then I and Herb get stuck raising TWO generations instead of just one.</p>
<p>That is supposed to be my daughters job when she is ready.<br />
And she will decide when that time will be.</p>
<p>Not you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526392', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526193</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 19:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evil Spaniard, 

Thanks, that is a good one! 

Now if I could only find my ex-girlfriend&#039;s phone number...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil Spaniard, </p>
<p>Thanks, that is a good one! </p>
<p>Now if I could only find my ex-girlfriend&#8217;s phone number&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526193', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluedahlia</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1526130</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluedahlia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#123
Here is what is wrong with you asking for a &quot;valid reason&quot;. Valid reasons are subjective.  What you view as valid and someone else views as valid will be totally different.  THIS is why you have a problem with control.  You view only your reasoning as valid and you get to deciede who else you think has a &quot;valid&quot; reason.  This is why &lt;strong&gt;individual choices&lt;/strong&gt; need to be upheld.  Who the hell are you to decide what is a valid reason to do anything in anyone&#039;s life but your own???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#123<br />
Here is what is wrong with you asking for a &#8220;valid reason&#8221;. Valid reasons are subjective.  What you view as valid and someone else views as valid will be totally different.  THIS is why you have a problem with control.  You view only your reasoning as valid and you get to deciede who else you think has a &#8220;valid&#8221; reason.  This is why <strong>individual choices</strong> need to be upheld.  Who the hell are you to decide what is a valid reason to do anything in anyone&#8217;s life but your own???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1526130', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hacker bob</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1525999</link>
		<dc:creator>hacker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Have you ever actually spoken with women who have had second-trimester abortions? Have you heard their reasons? Or are you just making assumptions, aka talking out of your ass?

My guess is that you know absolutely nothing about women who have had second trimester abortions. Or the reasons why they did it. 

Comment by eyelid&lt;/em&gt;

Sorry, Is there something I said that you didn&#039;t understand? Other than something being medically necessary, it is an elective procedure.

If it is mot medically necessary, what would be a valid reason?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Have you ever actually spoken with women who have had second-trimester abortions? Have you heard their reasons? Or are you just making assumptions, aka talking out of your ass?</p>
<p>My guess is that you know absolutely nothing about women who have had second trimester abortions. Or the reasons why they did it. </p>
<p>Comment by eyelid</em></p>
<p>Sorry, Is there something I said that you didn&#8217;t understand? Other than something being medically necessary, it is an elective procedure.</p>
<p>If it is mot medically necessary, what would be a valid reason?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1525999', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: eyelid</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1525038</link>
		<dc:creator>eyelid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob:

Have you ever actually spoken with women who have had second-trimester abortions?  Have you heard their reasons?  Or are you just making assumptions, aka talking out of your ass?

My guess is that you know absolutely nothing about women who have had second trimester abortions.  Or the reasons why they did it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob:</p>
<p>Have you ever actually spoken with women who have had second-trimester abortions?  Have you heard their reasons?  Or are you just making assumptions, aka talking out of your ass?</p>
<p>My guess is that you know absolutely nothing about women who have had second trimester abortions.  Or the reasons why they did it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1525038', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil German</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil German</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God did create man as his image and ressemblance. Then God saw the manâ€™s magnificency and decided that, in order to not have an equal competitor, a drawback to the man was needed. The did create the woman.

Comment by Evil Spaniard 


Evil Spaniard, 

Out of one of our ribs no less. The part with not alot of meat value anyway. Shows how much God values women, they are to be there to multiply mankind in Gods Divine Eyes and otherwise and generally keep quiet on all things in life.

Maybe there is something to Islam.

Peace and quiet and most inportantly submision, from an uppity woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God did create man as his image and ressemblance. Then God saw the manâ€™s magnificency and decided that, in order to not have an equal competitor, a drawback to the man was needed. The did create the woman.</p>
<p>Comment by Evil Spaniard </p>
<p>Evil Spaniard, </p>
<p>Out of one of our ribs no less. The part with not alot of meat value anyway. Shows how much God values women, they are to be there to multiply mankind in Gods Divine Eyes and otherwise and generally keep quiet on all things in life.</p>
<p>Maybe there is something to Islam.</p>
<p>Peace and quiet and most inportantly submision, from an uppity woman.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1524301', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Evil Spaniard</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1524160</link>
		<dc:creator>Evil Spaniard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#119 Gregor:

God did create man as his image and ressemblance. Then God saw the man&#039;s magnificency and decided that, in order to not have an equal competitor, a drawback to the man was needed. The did create the woman.

/Sarcasm off

P.S.: Please, please, women of TP, don&#039;t hit me too hard :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#119 Gregor:</p>
<p>God did create man as his image and ressemblance. Then God saw the man&#8217;s magnificency and decided that, in order to not have an equal competitor, a drawback to the man was needed. The did create the woman.</p>
<p>/Sarcasm off</p>
<p>P.S.: Please, please, women of TP, don&#8217;t hit me too hard :P<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1524160', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1522156</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Juan, 

Thanks. I think I ended up gibbering something like that back then. But that&#039;s not the witty, clever retort I was looking for. It wouldn&#039;t leave anyone in the dust. 

My quest continues....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juan, </p>
<p>Thanks. I think I ended up gibbering something like that back then. But that&#8217;s not the witty, clever retort I was looking for. It wouldn&#8217;t leave anyone in the dust. </p>
<p>My quest continues&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1522156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1522136</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 06:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sorry if I am not giving women enought credit by thinking they can make up their minds in 3 months.
Comment by hacker bob â€” January 24, 2007 @ 11:25 pm&lt;/i&gt;

According to statistics, only about 25% of the women who opt for a late-term abortion do it because they took time to make a decision. The rest delay having the procedure done for a host of reasons, two of which are 1) a misjudged gestation -which points to a lack of access to proper medical care which in turns points to, yes, poverty, and 2) a difficulty in making the necessary arrangements -which points to a lack of access to clinics, which in turn points to, yes, poverty. &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#Reasons_for_abortions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read the numbers for yourself&lt;/a&gt;

See, the problem is that man can walk away from a pregnancy. Our fellow men do it all the time; ever heard of the dead-beat dads? Women do not have that option. They are stuck with the pregnancy. Insisting that women be responsible and not get pregnant ignores that it takes two to tango.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sorry if I am not giving women enought credit by thinking they can make up their minds in 3 months.<br />
Comment by hacker bob â€” January 24, 2007 @ 11:25 pm</i></p>
<p>According to statistics, only about 25% of the women who opt for a late-term abortion do it because they took time to make a decision. The rest delay having the procedure done for a host of reasons, two of which are 1) a misjudged gestation -which points to a lack of access to proper medical care which in turns points to, yes, poverty, and 2) a difficulty in making the necessary arrangements -which points to a lack of access to clinics, which in turn points to, yes, poverty. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_United_States#Reasons_for_abortions" rel="nofollow">Read the numbers for yourself</a></p>
<p>See, the problem is that man can walk away from a pregnancy. Our fellow men do it all the time; ever heard of the dead-beat dads? Women do not have that option. They are stuck with the pregnancy. Insisting that women be responsible and not get pregnant ignores that it takes two to tango.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1522136', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Briseadh na Faire</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/24/bush-women-health/comment-page-3/#comment-1522062</link>
		<dc:creator>Briseadh na Faire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 05:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>56 - Bluedog,

I&#039;ve skipped over a lot of posts, but you make excellent points. Forced gestation could run afoul of the XIII Amendment.  The woman is coerced to provide care and nurishment to another human being 24/7 against her will. 

And thus far, no right to life person has ever answered my questions regarding miscarriages. If a fertilized egg is given full personhood, then miscarriages could be treated as negligent homicides. The woman who miscarries and her ob-gyn could share criminal liability.

Here&#039;s the scenarios: a pregnant drug-addict miscarries; an alcoholic miscarries; a smoker miscarries; medical malpractice by an ob-gyn causes a miscarriage.

Then there&#039;s third-party liability: X causes an accident, which causes Y (who was impregnated the previous evening) to miscarry. X is charged with manslaughter.

These will be the kinds of cases that will come to trial, once a fertilized egg is given personhood.


&lt;strong&gt;On the plus side: pregnant women will be able to use the carpool lane!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>56 &#8211; Bluedog,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve skipped over a lot of posts, but you make excellent points. Forced gestation could run afoul of the XIII Amendment.  The woman is coerced to provide care and nurishment to another human being 24/7 against her will. </p>
<p>And thus far, no right to life person has ever answered my questions regarding miscarriages. If a fertilized egg is given full personhood, then miscarriages could be treated as negligent homicides. The woman who miscarries and her ob-gyn could share criminal liability.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the scenarios: a pregnant drug-addict miscarries; an alcoholic miscarries; a smoker miscarries; medical malpractice by an ob-gyn causes a miscarriage.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s third-party liability: X causes an accident, which causes Y (who was impregnated the previous evening) to miscarry. X is charged with manslaughter.</p>
<p>These will be the kinds of cases that will come to trial, once a fertilized egg is given personhood.</p>
<p><strong>On the plus side: pregnant women will be able to use the carpool lane!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1522062', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Juan C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;@84, the bible is a bunch fairy tails written by a patriarchal society. Please donâ€™t use it to justify your sexist ideas. 
Comment by fed up&lt;/em&gt;

That was a blast. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>@84, the bible is a bunch fairy tails written by a patriarchal society. Please donâ€™t use it to justify your sexist ideas.<br />
Comment by fed up</em></p>
<p>That was a blast. :)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1521881', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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