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VIDEO: Cheney Dismisses Questions About His Credibility As ‘Hogwash’

In an interview aired on CNN’s The Situation Room, Vice President Dick Cheney dismissed as “hogwash” the suggestion that blunders may have hurt his credibility on Iraq. Wolf Blitzer told Cheney that conservatives in Congress “are now seriously questioning your credibility, because of the blunders and the failures.” Cheney responded: “Wolf, Wolf, I simply don’t accept the premise of your question. I just think it’s hogwash.” Watch it:

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Mr. Vice President, here are some examples of real hogwash:

CHENEY: “If you look at what’s transpired in Iraq, Chris, we’ve made enormous progress.” [1/14/07]

CHENEY: Rumsfeld “is the finest secretary of defense this nation has ever had.” [12/15/06]

CHENEY: “I don’t think anybody anticipated the level of violence that we have encountered.” [6/19/06]

Also in the CNN interview, Cheney claimed the escalation plan “will work,” adding that the administration will “move forward” with the troops buildup in Iraq regardless of what Congress says. Cheney cited an argument made by Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) claiming opponents of escalation are not supporting the troops.

Full transcript:

BLITZER: Here’s what Jim Webb, senator from Virginia said in the Democratic response last night — he said, “The president took us into this war recklessly. We are now, as a nation, held hostage to the predictable and predicted disarray that has followed.”

And it’s not just Jim Webb; it’s some of your good Republican friends in the Senate and the House are now seriously questioning your credibility, because of the blunders and the failures. Gordon Smith…

CHENEY: Wolf, Wolf, I simply don’t accept the premise of your question. I just think it’s hogwash.

[...]

Now, the critics have not suggested a policy. They haven’t put anything in place. All they want to do, all they’ve recommended is to redeploy or to withdraw our forces. The fact is we can complete the task in Iraq. And we’re going to do it. We’ve got Petraeus, General Petraeus taking over. It is a good strategy. It will work. But we have to have the stomach to finish the task.

BLITZER: What if the Senate passes a resolution saying, This is not good idea? Will that stop you?

CHENEY: It won’t stop us. And it would be, I think, detrimental from the standpoint of the troops. As General Petraeus said yesterday — he was asked by Joe Lieberman, among others, in his testimony about this notion that somehow the Senate could vote overwhelmingly for him, send him on his new assignment and then pass a resolution at the same time, say, “But we don’t agree with the mission you’ve been given.”

BLITZER: You’re moving forward, no matter what the Congress does.

CHENEY: We are moving forward. We are moving forward.




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72 Responses to “VIDEO: Cheney Dismisses Questions About His Credibility As ‘Hogwash’”

  1. pgl Says:

    Wolf asked the wrong question. A blunder is not the same thing as a lie. Now Dick Cheney has told MANY lies. But Wolf seems to be incapable of asking the real questions.


  2. chimpeach Says:

    The man definitely knows hogwash. He's seen Lynne in the shower.


  3. DieNowForPeace Says:

    I'd say his credibility worth as much as one bucket of hogwash.


  4. Cali4nian Says:

    He can say what he wants - he has no credibility.


  5. Mark Says:

    Cheney does not accept the premise? One more instance of him being wrong.


  6. RUCerious Says:

    I'm hoping that's his next job description.
    Leavenworth prison animal hygienist.


  7. ForTruth Says:

    Cheney does not accept the premise of anything outside of his manufactured reality.


  8. RUCerious Says:

    And we’re going to do it. We’ve got Petraeus, General Petraeus taking over. It is a good strategy. It will work. But we have to have the stomach to finish the task.

    So Petraeus is some greek god who can make a miserable failure of a policy rise from the ashes like the phoenix?

    He's got enough stomach to finish a ten course meal, but he's still just an obstinant assclown.


  9. GSD Says:

    Cheney can wash my hog.

    -GSD


  10. WaltTheMan Says:

    The problem is not that opponents are not supporting the troops. It is the Administration that is at fault. Cheney makes Lt. William Bligh look like a nun.


  11. Jebus loves me Says:

    The real Hogwash here, is that a corrupt politician like him got to become the President VP.


  12. WaltTheMan Says:

    #9 - GSD,
    He has his own Harley to wash.


  13. Jimbo Says:

    cheney (and Bush) has achieved their trusty servanthood by
    hard work, utmost integrity/honesty just one less step away
    from all mighty creator.

    their wisdom/honesty/utmost integrity means they know better
    for us than we do

    enough to make me PUKE>>>>>>>>>> :)


  14. Jimbo Says:

    Bush and Cheney have been appointed by God to kill off
    all the evilness in the world as in iraq and next iran.

    God has appointed him to that position as we know
    very well they both go to church and our simply following
    god's rule.

    eliminate evilness in the world ENOUGH TO MAKE ME **** :)


  15. katy Says:

    the facts don't matter...
    darth has claimed it hogwash and so it is - to his faithful...
    those kind love his kind...


  16. Erroll Says:

    "Cheney claimed opponents were not supporting the troops." This statement is nothing short of outrageous, certainly implying that the merest hint of criticism concerning the war/occupation in Iraq is forbidden. If Blitzer had the slightest amount of integrity, he should have jumped all over Cheney, informing him that this is supposed to be a democracy, not an authoritarian form of government. But, as expected, Blitzer did no such thing.


  17. Anon1 Says:

    This is a man who doesn't care what people think, and he doesn't care about his own credibility. That's like accusing a drunk of being drunk when he's drunk, and he says "I disagree with your premise."

    Mr. Dick Cheney, YOU don't decide what your credibility is. We do.


  18. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    Cheney cries "wolf" and dismisses a premise so he doesn't have to respond to criticism. No news here. Move along. We'll get more information from Scooter, by far, than directly from Dick "Frankenstein's Monster" Cheney (think Lon Chaney) about anything the man has said or done. He has and will continue to deny even with videotaped evidence presented to him.


  19. Joe Sixpack Says:

    This guy' brain must have suffered oxygen-depletion when he had that heart surgery a while back. Sheesh! The president would do well to move this old jackass across the street to the basement where Karl Rove has been exiled to.


  20. Bluedog49 Says:

    Cheney will step down to "spend more time with his family" or for "medical reasons" before the end of the year.


  21. Raven Says:

    "Poodle" Blitzer takes on Porky Dick.
    Yawwwwwwwwnnnnnn....


  22. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    Mr. Dick Cheney, YOU don’t decide what your credibility is. We do.

    Ding, ding, ding. This is the ultimate answer - nothing more needs to be added. Excellent.


  23. RUCerious Says:

    I wonder if Darth has looked at his approval ratings lately
    CBS News Poll. Jan. 18-21, 2007. N=1,168 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. RV = registered voters
    Date1/18-21/07
    Approve 16
    Disapprove 48
    Undecided 21
    Haven't Heard??? 15

    Wash that hog, you sweaty pig!


  24. RUCerious Says:

    OK, I'll be fair, here's the actual poll question

    "Is your opinion of Dick Cheney favorable, not favorable, undecided, or haven't you heard enough about Dick Cheney yet to have an opinion?"


  25. s Says:

    Hogwash is the word Cheny would use to describe the will of the American people. Time to "show him the way".........


  26. Zooey Says:

    Next time someone says I don't know what I'm talking about -- and I anticipate that event pretty much all the time -- I'll just say I don't accept the premise of that allegation.

    I'm brilliant.


  27. Marie Says:

    Cheney was more than a little testy today. "Hogwash" to his critics. Many questions posed were dismissed as "not true."
    Answers he did give were rambling, and he refused to be interrupted by Blitzer. (Blitzer should have outshouted him.)
    Blitzer asked questions in the 3rd party, i.e, "critics are saying..." and Cheney went off on him, implying he was hiding his own questions behind mysterious "critics."
    Blitzer asked about Mary and her pregnancy - Cheney said "off limits."
    Pretty revealing interview. Cheney, backed into a corner politically, is meaner than ever - and I don't like Blitzer!
    Cheney sure didn't win any converts today, but he doesn't care.
    He is going to do as he pleases, damn the congress, the law and the people.



  28. Bluedog49 Says:

    A couple more oldies-but-goodies from the Cheney collection:

    "My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." 3-16-03

    "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction." 8-26-02


  29. johnnyk Says:

    Last time I looked it was Cheney who "didn't have the stomach" for war. Other priorities were in the way.
    What a malignant little poser.


  30. Jimbo Says:

    cheney says hogwash :)
    enough to make me puke......

    why?

    because ONLY congress can declare war

    NOT

    2 totally CORRUPTED crooks
    enough to make everyone PUKE :)

    i smell a skunk, caleed CORRUPT and that
    AIN'T hogwash


  31. Jimbo Says:

    CORRUPT = HOGWASH = ENOUGH TO MAKE ME ****
    CORRUPT = HOGWASH = ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE **** :)


  32. Uncle_Ho Says:

    5-deferment Dickhead Cheney has a credibility gap bigger than the Grand Canyon. Oh, wait, he must be in his 'last throes'. BWAHHHAAAAHAAAA!


  33. Jimbo Says:

    now i understand why politics is often referred
    to in context to snake oil BECAUSE......

    OF
    CORRUPTION
    ENOUGHT TO PUKE THEM RIGHT OUT OF OFFICE :)

    Cheney that ain't hogwash, the only ones holding
    these crooks in office are cronies... the same cronies
    who bypassed congress (and the consitution) to
    give these 2 crooks the power to start a war

    FOR 5 FRIGGIN YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WE'VE BEEN TAKEN TO THE CLEANERS AND CROOKS
    WILL GO SCOTT FREE

    Cheney, now that ain't hogwash.... YOUR CORRUPT!


  34. oldtree Says:

    so the interview was from a remote location as well? jeez he must be pretty heavily insulated these days. he can't even appear at the studio to do an interview? maybe his doctor has to be by his side and that is why we don't see him any more? he may have been popping nitro or something to allow him to keep doing the jolly jump up to cheer for stupid
    do we have anyone more deserving of Nobel's prize than cheney?


  35. Jimbo Says:

    Darn....

    those 2 totally corrupted crooks right next to the american
    flash - both bush/cheney

    ENOUGH TO MAKE ****

    Now... that is truly a disgrace

    what, they're on a power trip because of the starts representing
    each of the 50 states and their these crooks stand = enough to
    make you PUKE

    now what's the real deal for iraq... terrorists or oil companies
    ceasing control of the country for oil

    that ain't hogwash ..... the gray hairs of the wise/sacred

    not these 2 crooks -- PUKE these totally corrupted politicans
    out of office


  36. Randy Nason Says:

    Hogwash you say? Hey, Dickhead: Squeal like a pig!


  37. Granola Hippy Says:

    Well, there you go. Nothing's going to stop their insanity


  38. Loonie Says:

    Shut your vile, fat, wrong face, Mr. Cheney sir.


  39. powkat Says:

    Now can we impeach him? And his silly sock puppet George, too.


  40. veritas Says:

    It takes a swine to know pure "hogwash" when he sees it - and that typifies Cheney to a tee. This guy is crooked as the day is long and has zero credibility in the world view and even less with americans who know about his Halliburton war profiteering.....could that perhaps be the reason for the recent "escalation"?? Instead of bringing the troops home. After all, if the war ratchets down, Cheney's retirement benefits decrease considerably (and that's only what we know of how much he still gets from his old company Halliburton....you know....the "no bid war profiteering Halliburton"??


  41. veritas Says:

    Cheney will so outrage the american people when the truth about his involvement in the Plame affair that we will call for his immediate and swift impeachment......the plan is unfolding before our very eyes. Evidence is mounting.....Libbey testified that he was told to destroy evidence linking the swine to it all.....and then there's that handwritten notation on the memo in Cheney's own chickenscratch....or is it pigscratch? Or is it just plain piglatin??


  42. veritas Says:

    Surprised trigger happy Dickbrain didn't shoot Blitzer in the face!


  43. Kurt Says:

    Everytime Darth Cheney is in the shower : it sure is Hog Wash!


  44. Kitty Says:

    Ah! My favorite right-wing rebuttal. When facts are presented just say "I don't believe that" or "I don't agree". There you go!


  45. Kurt Says:

    IMPEACH THE BASTARD! IMPEACH THEM ALL!


  46. Jake Says:

    Cheney Dismisses Questions Of His Credibility As ‘Hogwash’

    What else can he say? He's got nuthin.


  47. Spudge_Boy Says:

    And what was this Dick doing during the State of the Union?

    Checking his Blackberry.

    Maybe he got the news that Scooter threw him under the bus.


  48. FunMe Says:

    Cheney is like a hog on crack - blabbing nonsense and talking to the hand while everyone just laughs at him.

    The GIG is up home boy!


  49. Xenon Says:

    Bye-bye, Dickles: you're finished.


  50. dixie blood Says:

    Dick(head) Cheney!! You are HOGWASH and piss soaked and full of puke and bile and worthless to anyone anywhere in all of space and time!!!!! DD!!!


  51. Publicus Says:

    Cheney and the other fans of the ongoing bloodbath in Iraq have no credibility left. You have to be an idiot to think that people who want to send our sons and daughters (but not their own) into the meatgrinder of Iraq actually "support the troops."

    Of course, the people who actually support the troops are those who are trying to bring them home quickly, alive and with all their limbs.

    The lies are now falling on deaf ears....


  52. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    BLITZER: What if the Senate passes a resolution saying, This is not good idea? Will that stop you?

    CHENEY: It won’t stop us.

    The goal is nothing short of total control of the world's oil resources.
    Pulling out of Iraq is unthinkable, at least as long as there is still oil there. Iran (Shiite) is next, followed by Saudi Arabia (Sunni).

    Bush:

    "Al Qaeda and its followers are Sunni extremists, possessed by hatred and commanded by a harsh and narrow ideology....

    In recent times, it has also become clear that we face an escalating danger from Shia extremists who are just as hostile to America, and are also determined to dominate the Middle East. Many are known to take direction from the regime in Iran, which is funding and arming terrorists like Hezbollah -- a group second only to al Qaeda in the American lives it has taken.

    The Shia and Sunni extremists are different faces of the same totalitarian threat."

    The stage is set, the players are waiting in the wings. The orchestra has finished the entre act. As the curtain rises we will watch WWIII, Act 2, The Conflict Widens.


  53. J.Conrad Says:

    What cynical comments!
    It seems the credibility or integrity of anyone in the incestuous little political/ media circus is suspect. Don't you understand they chase one another in such a tight circle that both are utterly disoriented, and are hallucinating from each having inhaled so much of the other's flatus?
    Just turn off your idiot's magic lantern, or buy one with a little real-time polygraph tucked into the bottom right hand corner.
    (I confess that while I'm skeptical I still watch CNN; that's because I wouldn't want to miss it if Larry King were to expire doing the Larry King Live Show.)


  54. Liberal in New Mexico Says:

    Hasn't Cheney had his heart attack, yet? Imagine- The last thing he'll see will be his wife Lyn's big, bug-eyes, staring back at him. That thought gives even me the heebie-jeebies.


  55. chimpeach Says:

    CHENEY: It won’t stop us.

    Oh we're gonna stop you alright, jackass. I just hope your heart holds up through the whole trial.


  56. Krazny Says:

    So Bush links Iran to Sunni extremists in Iraq, then the next day Dick "shooter" Cheney says "they won't stop us" When asked about congress' plan to enter the foray on war in the middle east.

    Iran is next if they can, problem is no one is buying this lemon.


  57. Karim Says:

    When James Dobson goes on Time magazine and says that Mary Cheney was wrong to have this child, Darth Cheney was completely silent. But when it's Wolf Blitzer who mentions Mary, he goes bonkers. Guess it shows you where Cheney's loyalty's lie, and it is not with his daughter.


  58. A Weirdly Says:

    Who uses the word "hogwash" anymore?

    Just shows how stuck in the 1950's this jerk is.


  59. David J Says:

    What chaps me the most is that he openly states that he'll go against Congress even if they move to stop him. Where are the checks and balances against these reich wingers?


  60. Michael Welsh Says:

    Hillary Fingered, Then Denies Being Peeping Tom

    Clinton CIA Connection

    When Geraldo Rivera was at ABC News, 20/20 back in the 70's he interviewed some people that went to a land development in northwest Arkansas, called Holiday Island Suburban Improvement District (appears to have been connected with, MCO Properties, MCO Resorts, MCO Holdings, at one time or another). The people Geraldo interviewed on 20/20 claimed they signed some papers at Holiday Island that they had not read, lost everything they had including homes if they owned homes, cars, businesses, they even lost their identity, as they had no records in government, such as drivers licenses, birth certificates, marriage licenses, etc., after having signed papers at Holiday Island, and never got their day in court, and all they were left with was their Bibles. They also claimed they could work but didn't get to keep their pay if they were paid by check, and those people from Holiday Island kept doing things to them that made them paranoid. Bagabonds without a home is what I think Geraldo called them. Geraldo tried to confront someone that was connected with Holiday Island, about all this, their comment was, no comment. This was obviously no ordinary land scam.

    When reading this article please keep in mind the following facts. This article is based on first hand knowledge, as I was at Holiday Island, Arkansas in 1981. I am just corroborating to some degree what has already been documented and aired on ABC, and elaborating, by filling in the blanks that ABC News 20/20, and the people they interviewed on the program in question, did not or possibly could not tell, when they first aired that strange, bizarre program many years ago . This article is also information that was told to me years ago by someone claiming to be with CEPO, and is also based on other sources that are or were in the public domain, etc.

    The CEPO program, was a program to detect if a person is lying and/or telling the truth,. It is or was connect with or associated with, monitoring peoples thoughts. The program appears to have started in the early 70's, shorty before Holiday Island came into being. The CIA, obviously, was not afraid of the oversight committees (a dog and pony show for the American people) that were set up to watch over the intelligence community in the 70's when their CEPO program appears to have first come online.

    At one time Holiday Island had a fair amount of people touring their property, from all over the country. One would naturally assume that the people Geraldo was interviewing on 20/20, came from various parts of the country, which means that whoever it was, doing things to these people, as they claimed, had a large network of people working with them and/or for them.

    Whatever Holiday Island was at the time, or the companies that owned or controlled it, they were not afraid of the Arkansas government or the Federal government coming after them, even after having been exposed on national television by ABC News 20/20 when they stumbled on to them and documented Holiday Island back in the 70's.

    In 1981, they were still presenting papers at Holiday Island for those people that they singled out, that appeared to have been written in a secret code or foreign language, (note the people Geraldo interviewed claimed they signed papers at Holiday Island that they had not read) and they told people, something along the lines that implied it was to verify who you are. No one said, if you sign this your giving up your rights, freedoms, liberties, access to the courts, property or volunteering into a black-op experiment to monitor your thoughts, etc., etc.

    People would naturally be very suspicious and think it very odd to say the least, if they were signing papers written in english, to buy property, and then someone came up with a paper for them to sign that was written in some sort of secret code or foreign language, that they could not make out, by reading it. There would be very few people that would ever sign such a paper, under those circumstances, of their own free will and accord and no reasonable person would expect, under normal conditions, that anyone presented with such a paper or document, would sign it.

    At one time Holiday Island would give you $50.00 and a nights lodging in a motel if you agreed to take a tour of their property. What happened, appears to have gone something like this, for those that were singled out, that is. The paid for motel, office was not opened for the most part, as if they didn't want any other guests or business. The motel didn't appear to have anyone else staying there or very few people, if any, even during the middle of tourist season.

    So it appears, they isolated their patsy, that they singled out, for a reason. More than likely, so they could implant them, then continued their fraud and conspiracy to cover that up, in case they were ever exposed, by hypnotizing, tricking their patsy, so they would sign a paper the next day that was written in a foreign language or some sort of secret code that I referred to above, and was documented somewhat on 20/20, on the show in question. When the people they interviewed stated that "they had signed papers at Holiday Island that they had not read".

    Shortly after having visited Holiday Island in 1981, I noticed a mark, that looks like a scar, that was caused by a fairly deep cut, on my right hand, below my little finger, but I never cut myself there.

    What Holiday Island is today, the companies that owned it, or who owns it today, etc., etc., I don't know, but when that story first broke on 20/20, in the 70's, as you can imagine, it must of been the buzz, in the political circles in Arkansas.

    I have a affidavit stating that I saw the ABC News 20/20 program about Holiday Island, Arkansas and what was aired, signed by me many years ago, papers from Holiday Island, MCO Properties, stating that they destroyed papers relating to that transaction to save space, after another request was made a few years later for those documents, they came up with some of the papers they said were destroyed. I also have notarized document sent to CIA Director, rescinding documents in question, stating I would bring up the Fraud issue in regards to this matter. Some of these documents are 25 years old. I will post them on the internet (breakingwire.com) as soon as I can, or show them to anyone in the true alternative press that may be interested in them.

    Why am I the only one now talking about this? Did the people interviewed on 20/20 in regards to the program in question, die mysteriously, and under questionable circumstances, like so many other people that the Clinton's were associated with? Arkancided is what some people call it, or CIAcided like others say, because there is not really any difference between the two. Perhaps the reason other people are not talking about this matter is they were driven insane, by the unregulated mind manipulators and their candy store of hidden technology. Perhaps some of their early victims may have been recruited into their network, that I talk about and that is why they are not talking any more?

    In light of Mrs., Clinton running for President, and the press covering up for her as they appear to be doing with the documented Holiday Island, ABC News program that was aired, it would be wise and reasonable to assume that anyone covering this up, and not exposing it, may very well be graduates of The Joseph Goebbels School of Broadcasting and Propaganda International.

    In Typical Clinton Fashion Hillary Denies Denies Denies

    On July,20, 2006, I posted a article on the internet titled "Warrantless Spy Program Monitoring Peoples Thoughts". The next day on July 21, New Daily News published a article titled "Hil frets chips will be put in kids' brains". The article quotes Mrs. Clinton "At the rate that technology is advancing, people will be implanting chips in our children to advertise directly into their brains and tell them what kind of products to buy," The New York Democrat said the country was performing a "massive experiment"..... Mrs. Clinton was speaking at the Kaiser Family Foundation.

    Hillary Clinton talking about such a obscure subject as implanting chips in people, just hours after this original post appeared . What would the odds of that happening be?

    I hope Mrs. Clinton doesn't fret about me posting this information, like she appeared to have done in the last post. This is not all about her, but she probably thinks it is.

    Exposing the Truth

    I believe that if this article ever gets exposure, and legs, it will be one of the biggest scandals to rock government, and main stream media in recent history, and that in turn will cause good positive changes, once exposed, and a better world. But its up to the true alternative press to make that happen. So if anyone reading this, can help to get this out, by linking to this article, writing ABC News and asking them why they are sitting on the Holiday Island 20/20 program in question, by calling into talk shows and mentioning this article, or whatever it takes to expose this, let me say, thank you. Also please download this article for it doesn't disappear.

    If this story ever does start to break and the controllers follow the same method of operation that they have in the past, they will try to discredit the person putting out the information and/or resort to name calling, instead of trying to disprove the documentation and facts, and/or they will try to focus the publics attention somewhere else by a diversion, like they did when they passed The Military Commissions Act, and came out at the same time with the House page scandal, after having sat on that story for a year or more.

    This is today's real breaking story, and talking point of the day. Let us not let them distract us again. This story is so big, I believe they will try something on a more grand scale to divert the publics attention away from themselves. That ought to be interesting.

    Just think if Hilliary would become president, she would have the same power Bush now claims, being the Democrats refused to filibuster and their comrades, the Republications, both cut and run on the Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Rule of Law, when they passed that piece of garbage legislation titled "The Military Commissions Act", Under this Act The President or others, can use this law on Americans and take away their citizenship, designate them a enemy combatant, or detainee, use secret evidence against them , even though 70 - 90% of the people they have secretly held were documented to be innocent.

    If that's not bad enough, now their talking about enacting Hate Crime Laws, that appear to be geared to regulate free speech and the internet. That way, they could pave the way, for the thought police to eventually go after people they determine have wrong thoughts going through their minds, while their thoughts are being electronically intercepted, by the peeping Tom perverts, and lock you up in their detention centers.

    Regardless of what The Bush Administration says on alleged changes to their Warrantless Wiretapping, the facts remain that the Eschalon Spy Program has been around long before the War On Terrorism began, intercepting, phone calls, faxes, email, without a warrant, and the Israeli back door into the phone system, that was documented on Fox News when they did a 4 part series on the largest spy ring ever uncovered in America can be used to spy on Americans. So you might ask yourself, being Bush and his comrades already have the capability to monitor phone calls, and are, what were they really up to, saying they did not have to get a warrant as they originally claimed?

    If you read the comment section, for the article I first posted on Liberty Post, back in July, titled "Warrantless spy program monitoring peoples thoughts, from President Richard M. Nixon to George W. Bush" you will see where I tried to warn you weeks before they passed The Military Commissions Act, what they were doing with the detainees and where that was headed, before anyone else I know of even saw it coming. So I do have somewhat of a track record. You can find that article and comments I made in that post at: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=150901. The last post I made there on 08-02-06 may have helped spook them enough to change directions. Thank heaven that others, later saw the same situation being set up by the globalist for another of their staged false flag operations, that have been well documented as they try to bring on line their technology, for their police state.

    Is that what they did to those people that I wrote about, that 20/20 documented, ex-patriot them by taking away their citizenship? That's the only way that I have ever heard about, from experts, as to how to get records out of government files like the people claimed on the20/20 program in question, when they stated, they did not have records in government files.
    There have been many patents issued over the years dealing with mind control, such as patent #3951134, Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and altering brain waves.

    If this technology is ever advanced they will be able to have virtue human slaves.

    Ex-Washington Investigative producer for ABC's World News Tonight James Bamford wrote two books on the National Security Agency.

    Rep. John Conyers of Michigan, convened a Jan. 20 hearing on the warrantless spying. Among those called as witnesses was James Bamford. Bamford is quoted as telling the committee "Today, the NSA is the largest intelligence agency on earth and by far the most dangerous if not subjected to strict laws and oversight. It has the ability to virtually get into someone's mind."

    Are they using mind control technology on some of their detainees they are torturing? If you have the technology why would you torture other human beings, and in the process kill some of them, and drive others insane, as has been reported in the press, unless your some kind of deranged sadist. Is that what is really going on in Git-Mo, and what was really behind congress passing "The Military Commissions Act"?

    If I am ever designated as an enemy combatant or any thing along those lines, know in fact, in truth. In reality, I am not a terrorist, nor do I support terrorism, and that in fact, in truth, in reality, I am not a threat to the any legitimate government, nor am I anti-government! What I am is anti-evil. The only way I might possible say different, would be if someone was using mind control on me, or drugs on me, or some other unethical, underhanded trickery or coercion on me.

    The only people that might truly consider me a threat of any kind, would be the network or maybe a better term would be secret society that I write about, that has infested our society like a dangerous spreading cancer, that has had 30 some years to build their network up, by using technology, fear, terrorism, stealth, and secrecy that I and others tell you about, recruiting politicians, election officials, judges, military officials, mobsters, and others into their network. Their basically ladies of the night , for the rich that they really work for.

    President Woodrow Wilson said in The New Freedom (1913) "Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

    I am just a average Joe, that loves life, it's wonders and beauty, freedom, liberty, privacy, our beloved Republic, and expect good, honest government, and do not like or appreciate other peoples sorry attempt to get me caught up in their ongoing frauds and conspiracies against myself and/or others.

    In the official government document; Volume 3 of Air Force 2025, it is stated [By the year 2025:] "The civilian populace will likely accept implanted microscopic chips that allow military members to defend vital national interests." --Chapter 4 of Information Operations: A New War-Fighting Capability: Final Report by the U.S. Department of Defense.

    The illegal Iran Contra affair, the secret government within the government, (enter John Poindexter of Iran Contra fame, Director, Information Awareness Office of DARPA, for Bush administration... (Total Information Awareness - a prototype system -- is our answer) was trading guns for drugs and went on for five years before it became known and it involved 1000's of participants. Don't tell me that a large group of people can't keep things like this quiet for a long time, especially with the technology they have, with the help of their comrades in the press and others connected with their network.

    Rhodes Scholar, Carroll Quigley, professor of history at the foreign service School of Georgetown University (1910-1977) (William Jefferson Clinton's admitted mentor) wrote in The Anglo-American Establishment, From Rhodes to Cliveden, 1981, Books In Focus, NY, NY on pg. 49; Of the Secret Societies goals, and methods of operation, Quigley writes, "The goals which Rhodes, and Milner sought, and the methods by which they hoped to achieve them were so similar by 1902 that the two are almost indistinguishable. Both sought to unite the world, and above all the English-speaking world, in a federal structure around Britain. Both felt that this goal could best be achieved by a secret band of men united to one another by devotion to the common cause, and by personal loyalty to one another. Both felt that this band should pursue its goal by secret political, and economic influence behind the scenes, and by the control of journalistic, educational, and propaganda agencies..."

    Morton H. Halperin, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, DC was quoted in the AP News wire story, titled - National security takes precedence over personal liberties, rights in time of crisis, September 17th 2001, "The intelligence agencies have a long list of things they want done. They've been waiting for an event to justify them.''

    American journalist, three-time Pulitzer Prize winner, Arthur Krock wrote in The New York Times on October 3, 1963, (40 some days before they murdered President Kennedy, in what The House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1979, concluded when they stated "there was a probable conspiracy in the assassination of President Kennedy.) in a article titled, The Intra-Administration War in Vietnam, The C.I.A.'s growth was "likened to a malignancy" which the "very high official was not sure even the White House ("I will smash the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds." -- John F. Kennedy) could control ... any longer." "If the United States ever experiences [an attempt at a coup to overthrow the Government] it will come from the C.I.A. and not the Pentagon." The agency "represents a tremendous power and total unaccountability to anyone."

    Michael Welsh
    1-24-07


  61. RUCerious Says:

    Mickey, howza bouta link instead of 12 pages of ink?


  62. Krazny Says:

    LOL too funny Mikey, long unsubstantiated rant, about Hillary Clinton, on a thread about Dick Cheney's credibilty.

    get a life.


  63. Gregor Samsa Says:

    You know someone's "research" is pure, unadulterated bunk when their argument relies on Geraldo Rivera's so-called reporting.

    (Because we all know Rivera always checks, re-checks his facts -and when he's done, he checks them again, right?)

    Oh, and about Clinton? He hasn't even been president in, what?, almost seven years now. Some people really do have the hardest time letting go. What these mentally-feeble Clinton-haters lack in acumen they more than make up in prattle and balderdash.


  64. Gregor Samsa Says:

    On topic,

    The only hogwash is VP Cheney's claim to have any credibility left regarding Iraq, WMD, terrorism, anything related to foreign policy, or even good, responsible governance for that matter.


  65. big papa Says:

    What credibility?


  66. big papa Says:

    The man definitely knows hogwash. He’s seen Lynne in the shower.

    Comment by chimpeach #2

    ..."you're outa line"...

    hahahahahaha!!!!


  67. Jeffrey Stewart Says:

    Still more.

    neutered, abused puppy should have come back with Al Pacino from "Dog Day Afternoon."

    "You're out of order! The Supreme Court is out of order! The president is out of order! The disasteroust war is out of order! That gun you shot the guy in the face with is out of order! Wiretapping US citizens and reading their mail without warrents is out of order!"

    And so on and so on and so on!


  68. impeachcheneythenbush Says:

    There is only one way to stop these guys from everything they are doing, because they have, and will continue, to disregard the Constitution and the balance of powers spelled out by that Document. IMPEACH BOTH OF THEM...NOW!!!!!


  69. chimpeach Says:

    #62 Michael Welsh

    I can't believe you left out the part about the alien abduction. That's most likely where that little scar came from. And I've got news for you. That wasn't some little chip they implanted in you. It was a cluster of alien eggs, and when they hatch, you're going to be their first meal. It's true. I read all about it last week while I was in the checkout line at the Piggly Wiggly.


  70. doug Says:

    It is imperative that the American businesses who have contracts in Iraq be forced out now. The whole attack on Iraq has been for them to rob the Iraqis of their oil. Regardless of what else occures, the first thing that needs to be done, is get the American independent contractors out of Iraq. Give the contracts to Iraqis on a best bid basis. Provide support to the Iraqis in their efforts to keep what is theirs by providing financing to Iraqis owned businesses. The financing must not come from Bushco. It needs to come through the United Nations.


  71. DieNowForPeace Says:

    REALITY CHECK, MR. HOGWASH:

    CNN POLL-
    Do you believe that perceived blunders have hurt the Bush administration's credibility on Iraq?

    Yes
    92%
    113559 votes

    No
    8%
    10499 votes



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