Hagel: White House Originally Wanted 2002 Iraq War Resolution to Cover Entire Middle East
Hagel: White House Originally Wanted 2002 Iraq War Resolution to Cover Entire Middle East
The Bush administration has taken a series of steps in recent weeks that appear to be setting the stage for a military confrontation with Iran. Congressional leaders have been raising red flags. “I’d like to be clear,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said last week. “The president does not have the authority to launch military action in Iran without first seeking congressional authorization.” Recent comments made by Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) explain why Congress’s resistance is so vital.
In an interview in GQ Magazine, Hagel reveals that the Bush administration tried to get Congress to approve military action anywhere in the Middle East — not just in Iraq — in the fall of 2002. At the time, Hagel says, the Bush administration presented Congress with a resolution that would have authorized the use of force anywhere in the region:
HAGEL: [F]inally, begrudgingly, [the White House] sent over a resolution for Congress to approve. Well, it was astounding. It said they could go anywhere in the region.
GQ: It wasn’t specific to Iraq?
HAGEL: Oh no. It said the whole region! They could go into Greece or anywhere. Is central Asia in the region? I suppose! Sure as hell it was clear they meant the whole Middle East. It was anything. It was literally anything. No boundaries. No restrictions.
GQ: They expected Congress to let them start a war anywhere in the Middle East?
HAGEL: Yes. Yes. Wide open. We had to rewrite it. Joe Biden, Dick Lugar, and I stripped the language that the White House had set up and put our language in it.
Asked about his vote in support of the final Iraq war resolution, Hagel told GQ, “Do I regret that vote? Yes, I do regret that vote.”
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Oh, Hagel. Surely you are kidding. US taking over sovereign countries? Gimme a break, pal. /sarc
January 24th, 2007 at 11:38 amOh, these are interesting times…….
January 24th, 2007 at 11:40 amThe administration was reaching for the stars.
This is just simply appalling. These next two yearas are going to be vital in stopping the spread of the war to other countries that the administration hates.
January 24th, 2007 at 11:43 amFrom what I recall, the resolution didn’t say ‘anywhere in the region’ until just before it was to be voted on, when it was introduced as a ‘last-minute change’. Fortunately, members of Congress were alert enough to not let this slide, or we’d be in Iran right now.
Chimpy and his neocon handlers have been planning the invasion and subjugation of the ME since before Chimpy was even elected. Never forget that.
January 24th, 2007 at 11:44 amI’m glad Hagel is telling us this now. However, I’m very displeased that no one told us this when it happened. Maybe some of the independents and thinking Republicans might have seen Bush for the war monger he is. Maybe more public pressure could have been put on representatives to oppose ANY military action.
January 24th, 2007 at 11:45 amWell Bush wants to attack Iran and Syria, so that is why he wanted a blanket approval Resolution to cover the entire Middle East region!
January 24th, 2007 at 11:52 amDidn’t the senile madman say that the junta views the iraq resolution as sufficient authorizattion for taking the war to Iran and Syria if needed?
January 24th, 2007 at 11:57 amIn essence, President Bush used his 2007 SOTU to declare all sides in Iraq and the Middle East enemies of the United States:
“The Shia and Sunni extremists are different faces of the same totalitarian threat. Whatever slogans they chant, when they slaughter the innocent they have the same wicked purposes. They want to kill Americans, kill democracy in the Middle East, and gain the weapons to kill on an even more horrific scale.”
Long before mentioning the terms “Iraq” or “Iraqi”, Bush established a false equivalence between Sunni extremists in Iraq and Al Qaeda around the world. Similarly, Shiite extremists within Iraq, like Hezbollah in Lebanon, are to Bush all equally Iranian clients posing the same threat to the United States.
For the details, see:
January 24th, 2007 at 11:57 am“The Top 10 State of the Union Highlights.”
That proves that this is a NeoCon plan and has nothing to do with WMDS in Iraq. It is the PNAC ‘Plan For New American Century”, it is the REALM..Destorying all enemies of Israel….and that is why the push for Iran war now at full strength….the new WMDs record is played again. It is amazing that the major media acts as if they never heard of PNAC..Hagel was very angry today..he wants to see the plan for this’ surge’ …
January 24th, 2007 at 11:57 amI personally think that Bush and Cheney intended for Israel to take the aggresive lead with Iran. Maybe this little plan in thier think tank will not materialize, now that thier high-ranking good buddy is being accused of rape.
January 24th, 2007 at 11:58 amWhadda they thinking! That none of the Senate could actually read?
January 24th, 2007 at 12:00 pmIf you look carefully at the force resolution, it is just a rehash of what the congress asked the administration to provide, cleverly worded to parrot the request of the congress.
It is perfectly clear now that the administration was asking for a blank check. Oh, yeah, and btw, the administration has failed to live up to its end of the resolution, like in providing monthly updates on strategy and plannning and such.
John Dean’s book Worse than Watergate is a great source of debunking on the force resolution and the fiasco that has resulted from our congress blinking when they should have shoved that document where W’s sun don’t shine.
The reason we’ll never leave Iraq without putting insane pressure on the Bush Administration and Congress is because it’s part of the Neo-Cons grand plan for chopping up the middle east into the “New Middle East” which will be run by puppet dictatorships under Washington control, and aimed to allow Big Oil to claim the overwhelming majority of the countries oil reserves like they’re doing in Iraq.
The Iraq war will go on forever unless we force them to stop, because they want to go to Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, Greece, Sri Lanka, Antarctica
You name it and we’ll put permanent military bases on it
Oh, and weaponize space with killer satellites that can kill things strategically within a 5-10 mile radius or larger depending on how many people you want to vaporize with your Dr. Doom lazer from space!
January 24th, 2007 at 12:01 pmWow. So what with Saddam allegedly having WMD and having threatened to kill Bush Snr, the administration thought the best response was to invade all the Middle East?
Funny how the American people weren’t alerted to this when it mattered.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:01 pmI have long been convinced that Bush will attack Iran.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:02 pm…as well he (and all the rest of them) should…
…regret that vote…
…these crazy a*sholes in the Bush administration need to be STOPPED!
…before they plunge the planet into HELL!
January 24th, 2007 at 12:03 pmOn to Cyprus! The Bahrain! Qatar!
I’m King of the World!
-Chimpus Minimus
January 24th, 2007 at 12:06 pmAs I watched bush walk into Congress being greeted cordially by all those in view I had to wonder why not one of the so-called representatives of the people wouldn’t at least turn their backs on this pretender, or make a public show of just walking out.
Next I wondered if any of the so-called representatives were aware of the evidence that is so easily available on sights like Belowgroundsurface.org, 9/11Thruth.org, Scholarsfor9/11 truth.org and more that raise serious questions about what really happened on September 11, 2001. Did any one of them now know what many are convinced was a deliberate attack against this country, not by so-called terrorists, but elements within our own government?
I’ve been wondering since 9/11/01 how so many people could have watched WTCB#7, a 100% heavily fortified steel building, which wasn’t hit by a plane and had minimal damage, simply fall into it’s own foot-print at free-fall speed and not ask how this was possible? Why hasn’t anyone in the MSM asked? Why didn’t the 9/11 Commission ask? Why haven’t many of the so-called progressive blogs asked? And this is just one of the hundreds of questions not answered from that day.
We’ve been had folks. this whole government is a fraud as long as we allow this murderer-in-chief and all those that still live in a state of denial about the events of 9/11 to simply except the MSM’s spin and the so-called “official” version of these events.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:07 pmIn other words, what I’ve been saying all along is true: Congress knew EXACTLY what Bush was planning, and voted to authorize the use of force in Iraq anyway.
Though I guess this also proves it could’ve been worse.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:09 pmGreece in the Middle East region???
Hmmm… Hello, Greece is EUROPE and has been for the whole history.
And, what is the size of the so called region? What is the radius from Baghdad? Ten thousand miles? Is Norway in the region? Brasil? South Africa?
Sounds as a resolution to wage war to all the countries of the world together.
Frankly, if Bushie’s war planners can’t handle an empoverished country of 22 milions of people, what degree of arrogance makes them think that they can manage a war against the most populated region of the world (Including West Asia, part of Africa and Europe)? And who gives them the right to trying to do so?
January 24th, 2007 at 12:11 pmWhy the admission of the larger power grab now? Scary as hell that they wanted to have a blank check but I also agree with PLC above. This should have been brought to the publics attention back then.
Will any politician now have the guts to confront the Bush admin. and ask for an explaination on the desire to have been able to attack anywhere and anyone in the entire middle east?
This also tells me that some republicans back then saw some of Bush’s actions as over the top.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:12 pmWar in the entire Middle East!!….sounds Napoleonic….!!
January 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pmAll they needed was a new pearl harbor and congress would hand them the keys to the government and the people of America by the millions would join in for WWIII… Maybe …maybe in a different age with no TV and no Internet… Makes you think of Bush with a cowboy hat sitting on a bomb falling down to the ground… They wanted to continue the MADNESS of human on human genocide that has been getting worse and worse for the past 200 years because of the awesome power of our technology… MAN must evolve out of this mindset or else the prediction for WWIV will come true… sticks and stones.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:16 pmAnd my first question on reading this is why NONE of the representatives in Congress, Repub or Dem, let the American voters know about this 4 years ago?
Totally unacceptable. No excuse for it, at all.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI think Hagel forgot that Greece is not part of the Middle East, but Bush would not know that either > lol.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:16 pm#24…Hagel is right…Greece is part of the Middle East…In less than 40 minutes you can fly from Alexandria/Egypt to Athens/Greece…In fact a nice size Greek community still live in Alexandria/Egypt which was built by Alexander. Yes Greece is part of NATO, but so is Turkey which borders Greece. Are you saying that Turkey is not a Middle Eastern country? !! Greece is in Europe..but that is Geography..so is Egypt is in Africa…but both are considered Middle Eastern countries…..both are old civilizations linked to each others..and the whole area…
January 24th, 2007 at 12:29 pmThis has probably been said already, but since I don’t have time to read through the comments, here goes:
Gee Hagel or Biden or Lugar, I really would have liked to have heard this before now.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:29 pm#26 - join the party, Zooey.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:36 pmI think it was either Biden or Daschle that mentioned this a few weeks ago. Remember the other thing they tried to slip into the AUMF? Warrantless wiretaps. Bush specifically asked for them and Congress specifically said “No.”
January 24th, 2007 at 12:43 pmTo Tarzan.
President of Israel is Iranian.
Biography
Moshe Katsav was born in Yazd, Iran. His family brought him to Tehran when he was an infant; in August 1951, when he was 5, they emigrated to Israel. He remains fluent in the Persian language.
Upon arriving in Israel, the Katsav family was
January 24th, 2007 at 12:45 pmtarazan > Greece is not even a Muslim nation. It is part of Europe!
Turkey is an Islamic nation just north of Syria, so considered part of the Middle East!
January 24th, 2007 at 12:46 pmThe Bush Administration is Psychopaths. Just Psychopaths.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:53 pmThis (2002) has been mentioned before, but of course, one would have had to have been an out-of-work news junkie to have read any account of it. The MSM did not cover it at all — they were too busy ginning up the fervor for war. We have to thank those Sens. who were alert to the imperialist tendencies of Bush&Co and removed the language.
January 24th, 2007 at 12:54 pmNow, it is up to all Senators to refuse to grant Bush any further authorization to do anything without their express consent.
I don’t trust Rs any more - not for ten years, but I have to give Hagel credit now for speaking openly and trying to get his colleagues to join him in putting a lasso on the trigger-happy cowboy who wants to rule the world.
#29-Saint… I don’t understand what is the thrust of your point here…I didn’t say anything about immigrating. Your story about Moshe Katsav immigrating to Israel from Iran has nothing to do with what I wrote….I am aware of Katsav background..but what is this got to do with what I said about Greeks living in Alexandria/ Egypt. These people did not immigrate to Egypt,they lived there for centuries.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:00 pm#30 Jay Middle East description never was based on religion. Lebanon has a Christian President..because Christians are little over than half of the population….so what do you call Lebanon?!!!
January 24th, 2007 at 1:04 pmMeantime, Hagel is one of those who rejects the effort to pass a minimum wage bill without additional tax cuts for businesses. He’s making all the right noises on Iraq as he politically postures himself, but he’s still a sleazebag Republican.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:05 pmtarazan > Lebanon is a Middle East nation by location, so is Israel, which are both below Syria. Greece is not even connected geographically to the Middle East.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:11 pmIt was anything. It was literally anything. No boundaries. No restrictions.
Which is in perfect accordance with the Bush Doctrine. As I’ve said before, pre-emptive strikes (which the Bush cultists support) undermine international law, can only create more enemies for the US, and are actually an incentive for other nations to form ad-hoc alliances in order to counter the US military might. An attack on Iran can only deteriorate respect for international organisations even more.
In other words, the Bush administration is not furthering American interests but weakening them by attacking the very same frameworks that allowed the US to rise to preeminence.
I have suspected Iran is in the Bush administration’s sight since the “Axis of Evil” speech. It seems to me they were looking for legal cover, however flimsy.
Why didn’t anyone say anything before?
January 24th, 2007 at 1:12 pm#37 Jay– You are contradicting yourself..first, you stated that because Greece is not a Moslem country, it is considered not a Middle Eastern one ,but you gave no answer about Lebanon…and I said religion has nothing to do with a country being called a Middle Eatern. I Stated that it is ‘the location’…. then you said earlier Turkey is a Middle Eastern country….now you are saying that Greece is ‘not connected to any Middle Eastern country Geographically’ …but based on what you said earlier..it is connected to Turkey geographically which you yourself considered as a Middle Eastern country. Look at the map…what do you consider people live in the island of Cypress who are Moslem Turks and Christian Greek? !!!
January 24th, 2007 at 1:33 pmtarazan > Greece has always been considered a European nation. The cut-off point between Europe and Asia has always been at border of Turkey. Greece is not part of the Middle East > PERIOD. I just remarked that Greece is not Muslim/Islamic either. Lebanon is more Muslim than Christian.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:44 pmOh come on folks! “Middle East” is an arbitrary geographical label applied to region diverse in cultures, religions, ethnicies, and climates. As a quick catchphrase it has its uses, but to quibble over who’s in/who’s out details is to enter ‘angels dancing on a pin’ territory.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:47 pmJay, tarazan,
The Middle East has always been defined rather loosely. Inclusion under that term has to do with geography, as well as history and culture.
Greece is not considered a Middle East country simply because it is European and Christian. Turkey, on the other hand, is considered to be part of the Middle East because it is majoritarily Muslim.
I never understood why Armenia isn’t in the MiddleEast even though it’s right there too. The answer is: It is not Muslim or Arab. The wikipedia has a very nice entry on the subject.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:52 pmAnd that is exactly what Bush wants to do. That is why he keeps baiting Iran and Syria and pushed for Israel to attack Lebannon.
January 24th, 2007 at 1:57 pm#40 Plunky I agree with you..Middle East is a term created by the British Empire that has no real geographical boundries..it is not based on religion,ethnic or anything like that..it is more of a strategic one designed by the British Empire. Near East or Middle East ..is to describe how close that location is to England…Far East..is also with relationship to the distance to England….I agree with you Plunky..it never meant to be a what continent ,religion, ethnic that country has..it is how close to England it is……That is why Hagel was right describing Greece as Middle Eastern…
January 24th, 2007 at 2:01 pm#39 Jay…..The argument was not about whether Greece was a European country or not……It was about whether it is ‘Middle Eastern’ or not..you seem not to be able to distinguish between both….
January 24th, 2007 at 2:05 pmtarazan > read post 41 by Gregor Samsa. He puts this debate to rest!
Greece is European and NOT part of the Middle East! It cannot be both!
January 24th, 2007 at 2:08 pmThat is why Hagel was right describing Greece as Middle Eastern…
– tarazan
Unbelievable you guys are having an argument over semantics, when the real issue should be, why the F*ck did NO ONE in the senate or congress notify the American people of this 4 years ago?
What the hell is wrong with people? They hid this big piece of information from us.
January 24th, 2007 at 2:15 pmJay,
It really makes no difference whether or not Greece is in the Middle East (I also want to caveat my previous post: By most definitions, Greece is not in the Middle East although some do consider it to be in that region. It’s all in the Wikipedia.)
Now, if you read the transcript carefully, Sen Hagel asks “Is central Asia in the region?” which I think means the original wording read “Central Asia” and not “Middle East”. At any rate, that is another ill-defined region of the world that cuts across national boundaries, and cultures. Both “Middle East” and “Central Asia” are arbitrary terms: Some countries are included sometimes and excluded at other times.
The larger point is that the Bush administration sought a blank check to launch attacks in a very large geographic region. That’s what matters.
January 24th, 2007 at 2:23 pm#45…Jay..I read the article in Wikipedia , but the article does not come to your own conclusion that you made…Middle Eastern description is not connected to any continent. that is what the article say. The description is elastic..and not limited to any continent.
January 24th, 2007 at 2:27 pmThis is the most important news to not be covered by the conservative media in ages.
January 24th, 2007 at 2:41 pmI’ve heard some people try to argue that Turkey is part of Europe (which I disagree with) but Greece as part of the Middle East? As an actual Greek, let me have the final word here, Greece has NEVER been considered to be a part of the Middle East, not in terms of geography, or culture, or whatever other factor people might try to argue about. So hopefully this will put an end to the long string of arguments about this tiny detail which has no actual relevance to the rest of the story except to indicate a bit of confusion on the Senator’s part.
January 24th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe larger point is that the Bush administration sought a blank check to launch attacks in a very large geographic region. That’s what matters.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Take a look at the PNAC site and you can see exactly what they were asking for. They have been trying to follow the plan for a “Pax Americana Empire” all along.
January 24th, 2007 at 3:21 pmWayne,
I usually go back to their document “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” (or should I call it manifesto?) to try to make sense of some of their actions.
I became aware of that report shorty after Bush’s speech on the “Axis of Evil”. It is an eye opener.
January 24th, 2007 at 5:15 pmbush and cheney are strident Armageddonistas-clinically disturbed and extremely unstable and dangerous men.
January 24th, 2007 at 6:05 pmAlexandra, you are correct in asserting that the customary definition of Middle East excludes Greece (along with the rest of the Balkan peninsula). However there are long-standing cultural connections between what is now the Middle East and Greece:
January 24th, 2007 at 7:10 pm– The Magna Graecia of the post-Alexandrian world included much of what is now Egypt (under the Lagidae), Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, and South-Western Turkey (under the Selucids).
– The Eastern Roman Empire was culturally more Hellene than Italic.
– Greece itself was ruled by the Ottomans for centuries.
– More recently, Constantine Cavafy (arguably the greatest poet in Greek since antiquity) was a child of the Greek diaspora in the modern Middle East.
Oh boy. Yeah, see. Democrats and Republicans, the “sane” ones, just wanted to waste Iraq. We didn’t want to waste the whole region. What are we loony? Hey, a small quagmire is tough enough. We’re not stupid er nuthing. We only want to kill a few hundred thousand, not millions. We’re not evil.
January 24th, 2007 at 8:02 pmI think these statements have more weight than they may appear to. What would Iran or Syria, or even Egypt and Jordan, think about Hagel’s statements? Wow.
January 24th, 2007 at 8:04 pmPluky, I am not disputing that there has been a great deal of cultural mingling between Greece and the Middle East. In terms of food, music, and lifestyle there is much more similarity between modern Greece and Middle Eastern nations than a great deal of other nations in Europe. Yet in spite of all those things, Greece has never actually been considered a Middle Eastern country, and that was my point.
January 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmAs outrageous as this revelation is, I can’t believe anyone is surprised. That was the neocon’s stated dream: the projection of US military domination throughout the world. They said so, very directly, in their “Pax Americana” manifesto. They essentially envisioned a world-wide American empire, saying that not going for it would be a “lost opportunity” for the one remaining superpower.
January 25th, 2007 at 12:16 amParts of the Middle East and the “Mediterranean” overlap. I agree that the designation “Middle East” just like “Levantine” and “Near East” are names created by Britain and France and have more to do with politics than geography.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:46 amTo answer those who asked: “Why this information is only revealed now, and not back then?” The answer was quite simple: “The congress had hoped for a swift victory in IRAQ and all this admission would not have been necessary. There won’t be a protest against war and the rest of the middle east could be taken care of one step at a time.”
Face it, the congress and the white house are in league as far as middle east is concerned. They just preferred different methods of war: Quick War vs Slow War. That’s about where the difference end. They are now turning against Bush because he failed to deliver a victory, NOT because they are concentious about the illegal war.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:46 amPax Americana, or, Global War, which is it? The weapons of mass destructions have been located, they are the job exports to China, astronomical deficits at home, and a steady decline of the standard of living at home for the disappearing middle class.
Our enemies are not the arabs, muslims, or alike. Our enemy is our administration that refuses to promote renewble energy, promote electric cars, and stop the bleeding of our scarce currency to OPEC. We need 1000 proctologists who would remove the heads of our politicians from the rectums of the major corporations and make them see the light, that they are supposed to serve us, THE PEOPLE, not just the profits of the blood suckers.
January 25th, 2007 at 8:57 ammy question: WHY ARE WE JUST HEARING ABOUT THIS NOW?!?!?!?!?!?
January 25th, 2007 at 9:55 amI do not trust any of them the dems or the rep, does the mid east include israel?
January 25th, 2007 at 11:21 amGRRRRRR!!!! There is only one thing and one thing only that will stop Bush and that is 1. Freeze the ENTIRE FEDERAL BUDGET so that Bush cannot spend a dime anymore. 2. Impeach and remove from office BOTH BUSH AND CHENEY!! No exception! Nothing else will stop the lunacy that permeates the White House and the people living in it now.
January 25th, 2007 at 12:35 pmWell as long as some people continue thinking “being Middle Eastern bad for your image” some people of the Middle East will continue to argue “We’re not Middle Eastern! No way!” Turks, Greeks or others it doesn’t matter.
Thing is how insane is Bush administration, and how blind their supporters are. This madness has to stop before they start the third World War. “We’re protecting American people and freedom and democracy” is a filthy lie, which rest of the world can see but some Americans can’t.
Sorry for my bad English
January 25th, 2007 at 2:23 pmBush & Chainey are just killers, they like killing. With drol chainey, its mostly birds and well a friend or tu. Maybe he was just drunk, but, shooting birds being evicted from a cage strikes me as being more than a little demented. Bush got real pleasure from killing people when he wuz gov. of TX. Isn’t U.S.A country of violent no nothing morons really?? I’m not talking New York here, I’m talking Texas, Montana. But then I suppose that when Germany was gasing the Jews, they kept it quiet, so its difficult to compare. I’ll be in DC Saturday to leave some shoes where ever they are being dumped. Finally, to get the real flavor of bushco, check out the correspondents diner at the white house, the one just after the attack on Iraq. Bush & white house staff were looking under chairs, uuuhh no WMDs here, in closets…..no WMD here and the gathered were laughing atn the show. But the ugly reality, that bushco killed hundreds of thousands of INNOCENT people. Nearly everyone in a dictatorship is innocent except the dictator. After all, its not like theyare guilty of freely voting for a monster, LIKE WE DID HERE IN THE U.S.A..
January 26th, 2007 at 1:01 amBush & Chainey are just killers, they like killing. With drol chainey, its mostly birds and well a friend or tu. Maybe he was just drunk, but, shooting birds being evicted from a cage strikes me as being more than a little demented. Bush got real pleasure from killing people when he wuz gov. of TX. Isn’t U.S.A a country of violent no nothing morons really?? I’m not talking New York here, I’m talking Texas, Montana. But then I suppose that when Germany was gasing the Jews, they kept it quiet, so its difficult to compare. I’ll be in DC Saturday to march & leave some shoes where ever they are being dumped. Finally, to get the real flavor of bushco, check out the video on utube of thecorrespondents diner at the white house, the one just after the attack on Iraq. Bush & white house staff were looking under chairs, uuuhh no WMDs here, in closets…..no WMD here and the gathered were laughing at the show. But the ugly reality,…….that bushco killed……hundreds ……….of thousands……………… of INNOCENT PEOPLE. Nearly everyone in a dictatorship is innocent except the dictator. After all, its not like theyare guilty of freely voting for a monster, LIKE WE DID HERE IN THE U.S.A..
January 26th, 2007 at 1:10 amNow is better than never and it was inevitable. With every bold plan like PNAC, or Bush/Iraq comes the little mouse out of the hole that in some small way disrupts everything. Iraq did not know what was best for them and instead of following along as planned you get a civil war between fanatics destroying their own country, people and livelihood. Now Cheney and possibly Rove get Libby as well as Cheney getting grandchild thru lesbian daughter. The administration gets bloggers and a Democratic congress just in time and Exxon/Mobile gets “An Inconvenient Truth”. We, the American people, get our eyes opened to corruption and lying for profit at the highest level. It’s not too late but rather just in time. Fool me once shame on…uh…you…a …can’t fool a divided house..or a fool..in a divided house…or…a…Can’t fool me again.
January 27th, 2007 at 1:54 amThe really scary thing is, that the whole thing may be intentional. The intent is not to pacify Iraq, the intent is to depopulate it.
January 27th, 2007 at 8:54 amThis civil war is maybe run by the CIA, just like the 9/11 attacks. The goal is to depopulate so later on they can pump out the oil without interference. This is planned not just for Iraq but the whole region. The intention is to ignite a general war in the whole Middle East.
GWB is the new Hitler.
Lets face it, Bush is whack job. He will say whatever we want to hear and do what ever he wants to do. On the other hand the democrats with few exceptions- thinking James Webb and Feingold here - have shown any real leadership but mostly just political mouthing. Where is meaningful immigration reform, meaningful goals in Iraq, impeachment proceedings that are so richly deserved. The list is long. Our tolerance for it is sobbering and unsettling. Where are the patriots as these mad men drive the company into the ground. They all sing from the smae page. The most irresponsible and destructive administration this country has ever seen - perhaps ever will- this could be the last hurrah at the rate it is going.
January 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pmI hope he regrets the patriot act vote too….. wonder if he read it yet?>
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