Hagel On Cheney Remarks: ‘He Has So Little Faith In This Country To Say Something Like That’
Hagel On Cheney Remarks: ‘He Has So Little Faith In This Country To Say Something Like That’
Yesterday on CNN, Vice President Cheney told Wolf Blitzer that “the biggest threat” in the Iraq war right now is that the American public may not have the “stomach for the fight.”
Responding to Cheney’s comments, Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) told PBS Newshour host Gwen Ifill that it’s astounding the Vice President so “underestimates the people of this country” and “has so little faith in this country to say something like that.” Watch it:
Hagel also suggested that Cheney talk to the families of the soldiers and tell them “that they don’t have the stomach.”
Transcript:
GWEN IFILL: A final question, and for you both, and once again from Vice President Cheney. His interview, Senator Hagel, today at CNN, he said that part of what’s going on here is that people do not have the stomach to complete this mission. Senator Hagel, your response to that?
SEN. CHUCK HAGEL: Oh, I’m so sorry the vice president so underestimates the people of this country. He has so little faith in this country to say something like that. That’s an astounding statement from the vice president of the United States.
You’re telling me — or maybe more directly, maybe the vice president should tell the families of those who have lost their lives, over 3,000, and over 23,000 wounded, some very seriously for life, that they don’t have the stomach? Come on, let’s get real here.
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Like I said, these cons think we don’t know what’s best for us, and think they are doing the right thing.
Or, they just want to keep looting our treasury as long as possible, while protecting thier egos.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmTaking the †safe †Hagel route I see as your Republican pick for President?
Better to have someone to fall back on than flat on your face in 2008 when your candidates self implode I suppose.
And where again did your pick come from?
Republican Party of course
Comment by slippery slope
That should tell you something about the state of the Democratic party these days, even TP is waivering towards Hagel, a Republican.
Look at all the feature stories they do on him. Then ask yourself this basic question.
ԠWhy is Hagel getting all of this air time on a Dem blog. ‘â€
January 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pm“Why is Hagel getting all of this air time on a Dem blog.”
I’m going to take a wild guess: maybe it’s because Hagel is speaking out against the war in Iraq.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pmNot true Elmer, we do not have the stomach for incompetence. You and your baffon boss Hoss are completely negligvent and incompetent in how to wagve a protracted battle agvainst those that mean us harm. You see elmer Fudd, there are consequences for 5 deferrments.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:46 pmComing from someone who insisted on five draft deferments rather than face military service himself, Cheney is the last person to bring up having the “stomach” for anything!
January 25th, 2007 at 1:47 pmComment by Frank Massingham = Rachel
January 25th, 2007 at 1:49 pmAmericans sit on their fat ass on an intellectual cruise control “assuming” the bubbleboys in the Convress wil grow a spine while Elmer Fudd and boss Hoss know they won’t.
Very soon you are gvoing to awake and see that they hagve premptively attacked iran and declared martial law. Then it will be to late to act. See you in DC Saturday.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:50 pmComing from someone who insisted on five draft deferments rather than face military service himself, Cheney is the last person to bring up having the “stomach†for anything!
Comment by Curmudgeon
Yeah Cheney has the stomach to have others experience the trauma and loss.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:50 pmCheney doesn’t have a clue how seriously evil and disgusting he really is and to consider him a member of the human race is a stretch. We have stomach, all right; stomach enough to impeach Cheney and then try him for war crimes and crimes against humanity. It’s the right thing to do, to show the rest of the world how sorry we are for letting loose these creatures.
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“Cheney meant to say, “the people don’t have TWO stomachsâ€â€¦
…like his COWardly a*s… ”
Pretty sure cows have 4 stomaches there chief.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:56 pmClark/Webb or Clark/Hagel in 2008
January 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pmFrank Massingham,
Republican pick for the presidency? I think you vastly overestimate his appeal. I would vote for Pat Paulson before I ever thought to vote for an adherent of the American Fascist party.
He’s just a duck out of water and interesting to watch. Several of his fellow ducks are beginning to tear themselves away from the cool-aid also, soon there will be a duck stampede.
Following no plan leads only nowhere.
January 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pmIfill’s question is a complete distortion of Cheney’s words. Cheney did not say Americans do not have the stomach for a fight. He said the terrorists believe that Americans do not have the stomach for a fight and act on that belief. Read the interview. Cheney’s words could not have been clearer. Ifill completely misrepresented what he said in the Blitzer interview….Hmmmm…A member of the liberal news media intentionally distorting the words of a Republican…What a shock!!!
January 25th, 2007 at 2:16 pm#2
Are you dizzy from all that spin you just posted?
TP waivering towards Hagel for president???
I don’t see any such indication ANYWHERE here - either that we’re waivering towards Hagel as a potential pick for president OR that we think our current lot of presidential hopefuls will “self implode”.
P.S. you’ve got a Republican Kook-Aid mustache the size of Texas, might want to look into that.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:23 pm#16
Um… Hagel is a REPUBLICAN. So much for your “liberal media” tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:23 pmExley, Gwen Ifill is a personal friend of Condi Rice. Gwen speaks often about the many times she has been to Rice’s house for dinner. She goes to cocktail parties with Condi and then, the next day, lobs softball questions to her on NPR. Are you really sure Ifill is part of the “liberal media conspiracy?”
January 25th, 2007 at 2:25 pmExley, you act as if no distortions have ever been committed by Republicans. Hagel is thumping his chest and people are listening. It’s refreshing to see a republican who didn’t march lock step with Dick n Bush.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWe need to get Cheney on TV more often.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:26 pmHe said the terrorists believe that Americans do not have the stomach for a fight and act on that belief.
That’s SOOOO Orwellian it’s laughable.
NO, they’re not acting on THAT BELIEF, but rather the belief that blowing shit up gets your pansy-assed attention which SCARES YOU because YOU don’t have faith in your Government’s ability to protect you, because you’re a model, brain-washed Neoconwho is being TERRORIZED by your own Government.
YOU are the threat to peace.
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January 25th, 2007 at 2:32 pmԠWhy is Hagel getting all of this air time on a Dem blog. ‘â€
Comment by Frank Massingham
How so is progressive only Democratic?
Ho so is secular only Christian?
But I do suppose you might call yourself a Republican before an American.
But what else should one expect from someone who jseems to judge everyone by what they see on the magic sparkle box of pedantic punditry?
Why don’t you just head on over to Limbaughs website ans copy and paste what your told to think?
January 25th, 2007 at 2:32 pmCheney’s approval rating as of 1/23 16%. if 51% is a mandate 84% is impeachment weather.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:32 pmLet’s throw this moral catastrophe of a human life onto the streets of Baghdad and see just how much stomach it has.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:33 pmSince Pumkin head is so gung-ho for more troops in Iraq, he should be first in line. The DOD can donate a helmet large if there is one large enough and can take his shotgun, and go over and show the “evil doers”
January 25th, 2007 at 2:34 pmwhat a real blowhard can do.
Let’s throw this moral catastrophe of a human life onto the streets of Baghdad and see just how much stomach it has.
Comment by VerbalKint
I would give my life’s savings for a Pay-per-view of THAT!
January 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmthe dicks in this country have been saying for years now that anyone that doesnt get in the lemming line is has a weak stomach. The terrorists say the same thing…. both groups are tribal dark ages taliban types that have learned NOTHING from the past 200 years of human history and scientific progress.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmWhy on earth do people still listen to Exley? He is an insult to any decent person’s intelligence. Seriously. He is not for real I tell you. He is here ( either on his/her/it’s own….or representing someone who is paying him) trying to sound reasonable in order to continue to pump his vile CRAP…….and I do not trust him ………at all. That is my opinion.
And…Cheny did communicate in the CNN interview, loud and clear, that any American against this war “doesn’t have the stomach” for it. The right wing monsters are good at implying, insinuating, manipulating and LYING.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:35 pmExley, as an American I have nothing but contempt for you. I say it very very seriously “sir.”
RE: Chainee on TV
I thought it mildly coincidental his use of the term “hogwash”….
January 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pmIt is the same term an accused serial killer hog farmer in Canada used to describe the charges against him…………..
Comment by wags #13
Thanks for the assist…
…sorry but I didn’t much care to study ‘em…
…but they sure go great with Heinz 57…
January 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWhen I hear Cheney say something like that I want to scream. I want to know what personal sacrifice HE is making in all of this. He can talk about Americans not having the “stomach for it” when he can show this is costing him anything - instead of making him a TON of money while thousands of soldiers die and hundreds of thousands or Iraqis die and their country is decimated.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:37 pmhttp://www.ringnebula.com/ project-censored/ 2007/ 2007-story24.htm
“Why on Earth do people still listen to (trolls)?”
Keep thy friends close,
January 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmand thine enemies closer………
BlueDog, Whether Ifill is a liberal or not (Personally, I believe she is based on various comments she has made through the years and the fact that the news media is overwhelmingly liberal), what is beyond dispute is that she completely twised and distorted Cheney’s words when questioning Sen. Hagel.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:39 pmCheney has no stomach like he has no heart.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:40 pm#2, Frank M
January 25th, 2007 at 2:44 pmYou must be new here, so we will give you the benefit of the doubt, but you don’t deserve it.
See, we liberals listen to everyone, we don’t simply side with one man/party because we are too narrow minded to believe that anyone else has validity (unlike the Repugs). Hagel is speaking out against the war and against the rubber stamp congress and Cheney. So naturally, we will talk about it here — imagine that! A republican who we can agree with on this issue!
Fear not, however; we all are fully aware that Hagel, no matter how much he may break from convention and appeal to Dems on Iraq, he is still poles apart from the Democratic philosophy.
Just so people dont go nuts over the conviction of the ohio vote rigging deal .. and say stupid things… the two people are democrats…or at least registered that way… the point being there is BS going on in the voting system and democrats as well as republicans (and those faking being on one side or the other) are screwing us all. The democrats need their feet held to the fire as well as all others that have sold America out to the insanely immorally wealthly.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:44 pmExley, you’re just not making sense. What does it matter whether or not Cheney states it himself or channels what he thinks terrorists feel. In fact, it’s even worse if he’s channeling terrorists. He’s saying, “terrorists don’t think we have the stomach and I agree with them,” isn’t he? The amazing thing is how far people like you will go to defend him. What’s he got to do before you’ll criticize him, shoot someone in the face?
January 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmthe fact that the news media is overwhelmingly liberal
January 25th, 2007 at 2:45 pmComment by Exley — January 25, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Since when?
Turn off Rush, Exley, Turn off Rush NOW!
may I suggest MediaMatters.org
Bluedog………Cons like Exley love to say things are “beyond dispute.” It’s because they are unAmerican. They don’t know what real debate is about and they value appearance above substance. uh….i.e……they lie…..a lot.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:46 pmmaybe someone should tell cheney that americans are sick of leaders who may not have the brain for the fight.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:47 pmExley sez:
Well, Exley, you can stop right there. Anyone who is stupid enough to actually try to pass off the ‘liberal media’ chestnut is officially too stupid to engage in discussion.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pm#16 Exeley
January 25th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWhen Dick Durbin was reading words from a government report and uttered that they could have been talking about Nazis, where did you stand on that?
Funny, he talks about stomach for a fight. I don’t think he had a “stomach” for a fight 40 or so years ago…
January 25th, 2007 at 2:50 pmno one believes a thing cheney says, regardless of whether liberals or conservatives are spinning:
http://www.cnn.com/ POLLSERVER/ results/ 29741.exclude.html
zero credibility.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:52 pmThe media is predominately centrist and you do not have any FACT to back up your ‘opinion’ other than to call it a Fact. Something Limbaugh also likes to do to make his opinion swallowable
“The Fact is folks…”
January 25th, 2007 at 2:53 pmCheney has no stomach for a fight - he’s proven that.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:55 pmBalls, yes.
Stomach, no.
Brain, yes.
Heart, no.
Eyes, yes
Vision, no
Con is a good word for Republicans. They have been great, for a time, at fooling a lot of folks into thinking there is a liberal bias in the media. Well, guess what. The majority of Americans do not agree with where the cons have taken our country………and the media has begun to swing back to speaking for them ….slowly. This, in the con’s view, means the media is biased. If…..if….the media reflected the left more often in the past perhaps it was because we were in a more sane time. Perhaps……duh….more people are not right wing extremists. The cons are nasty and they are loud, especially now that the cockroach spray has been taken out of the cupboard. They don’t want to give up their temporarily successful (squeaky wheel gets the grease ) media dominance,……but they are ultimately doomed because there are more sane people than crazies like them. That should give rational people heart.
January 25th, 2007 at 2:58 pmI’m tired of you liberals pointing fingers at our dear President. We have yet to receive a resolution to the sectarian violence in Iraq. Gosh, give the President a chance. You’re only viewing negative perspectives from the media. Alot of good has happened in Iraq, for ex: The U.S. military killed 30 insurgents and captured 27, that’s good news. You still have a growing number of the Iraqi citizens that want liberation. You dems feel that their specific type of liberation should be indentical to our views, not so. Let’s remember, this is considered a muslim country. Muslim ideals are very strict so don’t expect to see Iraqi women wearing skimpy clothes, or people showing public affection to each other in public, or homosexuality being practiced, etc. This will be the type of liberation equivalent to communism (I didn’t say facism). Now, if we withdraw from Iraq, this method will embolden the enemy, which will increase threats toward our country. If we don’t increase the troop levels, security will not be maintained in the Iraqi provinces and the mass casualty rate will increase. The only resolution is to increase the number of troops in certain provinces. If you have a better resolution, please inform everyone on this blog. You democrats are known for cutting a running from political and military issues. Must I bring up former President Bill Clinton? I wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberal because you would use your conscience to determine who should/shouldn’t be killed vs. using a military plan.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:01 pm1. Cheney fails miserably.
2. The American people notice Cheney has failed miserably.
3. The American people lose faith in Cheney’s competence.
4. Cheney blames the American people for “not having the stomach” to
endure Cheney’s miserable failure.
Cheney’s right. He’s turning my stomach!
January 25th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThe fact is folks is that I am not a drug addict, no sir, those pills didn’t just roll up on my big gut and then climb their way up my tie, no sir, somebody, and this is a fact folks, put those pills in my cigar. Yes folks the fact is that we have Liberals, secret squirrel liberal spies, with pockets full of oxycodone working here, a fact folks! Yes folks, fact, we must stop these liberal media researchers from putting drugs into my mouth when I am not fondling my tongue around the end of my Clintonesque cigar!
January 25th, 2007 at 3:06 pmFor those who need an abridged format of St. Daryll’s post, I fully oblige:
Blah Blah Blah Liberals. Blah Blah Blah Homosexuals. Blah Blah Blah Bill Clinton. Blah Blah Blah All Bad.
Ya’ll are so very welcome
January 25th, 2007 at 3:09 pm“I wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberal”
the most important thing is that you have an excuse for not fighting. cheney would be proud of you, son.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:10 pmWhat exactly has crawlled up Hagels ass?? Why is he so against the Bush administration now? I like but it’s just a little to late. If the repukes would have asked the hard question before we entered Iraq they may still be in power and we wouldn’t be in this no win situation.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:11 pm#16 - Exlax, as usual you are hereby exposed as the dufus sack o’crap that you are
“We’ve got Petraeus, General Petraeus taking over. It is a good strategy. It will work. But we have to have the stomach to finish the task.”
What part of that do you deny he said?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:12 pm“You still have a growing number of the Iraqi citizens that want liberation.” - Daryll
This would be great if it were true. Show some proof!
You still believe in a fairy tale.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:17 pmfrom Exley Whether Ifill is a liberal or not (Personally, I believe she is based on various comments she has made through the years and the fact that the news media is overwhelmingly liberal),
Fact? More like Factiness.
Daryll, go research the kidnappings and the mass exodus of the middle class in Iraq. There have also been better resolutions and TP has provided them. Look into this website and you’ll find them.
Your last comment about going to war is just sad. Odds are Daryll is you’d be one of the first casualties. I’ve been in the service and there are people who would want to shut you up before the fight started.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pmNice try, RUCerious….Unfortunately for you the quote you posted does not in any way exonerate Ifill. Her question is a complete distortion of Cheney’s words. Try again. Where exactly does Cheney say that people do not have the stomach to complete this mission?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:19 pmExley, tell us that Cheney believes Americans have the stomach for this fight (as he puts it). Not just the 18% who think he’s doing a fine job, but all Americans. Tell us in clear words that Cheney believes all Americans have the stomach for this fight.
If that’s what you believe, say it.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:24 pmIt’s time for a mutiny.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:24 pmExley, you moron, that quote was Cheney! From the Wolf Blitzer interview!
January 25th, 2007 at 3:25 pmDamn your dumb.
Exley - read this again.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:26 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/ 2007/ 01/ 24/ cheney-hogwash/ #comments
now it’s time to dissect St.Darylls post:
I’m tired of you liberals pointing fingers at our dear President.
Ummm, this particular thread is about….THE VICE PRESIDENT. DOHH!
Gosh, give the President a chance.
We have, since Sept.11th, 2001, and he has failed miserably, and 3000+ soldiers are paying for that dearly.
You’re only viewing negative perspectives from the media
negative, yes, but historically correct. Realism, dude. deal in realism.
You still have a growing number of the Iraqi citizens that want liberation.
You’ve learned well from Master Exley. Please provide proof and stop posting in absolutes.
Let’s remember, this is considered a muslim country.
You are correct sir. A muslim country who did not ask to be invaded, who did not ask to have over 600,000 innocent civilians killed.
Muslim ideals are very strict so don’t expect to see Iraqi women wearing skimpy clothes, or people showing public affection to each other in public, or homosexuality being practiced, etc.
Why do I have this disturbing idea that you are typing with one hand again? Getting a little excited there, St.Daryll?
If we don’t increase the troop levels, security will not be maintained in the Iraqi provinces and the mass casualty rate will increase.
Security has been maintained? mass casuality rates are down? do you even watch the news?. If security and safety is at such a good level, get your scrawny butt over there and walk the streets of Baghdad, or other provinces (chicken hawk)
You democrats are known for cutting a running from political and military issues.
Hmmmm, let’s see. 9/11 (Al-queada). Training grounds (Afghanistan). Bin Laden (Mastermind). Bin Laden’s whereabouts (The border between Afghanistan and Pakistan). Your government’s response? Send the majority of our troops to Iraq for non-existence WMD. Whoops, Terrorists connection. Whoops, ummm Iraqi Liberation. Yeah, Liberation, that’s the ticket. No cutting and running politically or militarily there.
Must I bring up former President Bill Clinton?
Please do, as it makes you look like a complete doofus.
I wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberal because you would use your conscience to determine who should/shouldn’t be killed vs. using a military plan.
Careful Eugene…
Most of us here have served in the military, unlike certain homophobic virgin posters who pretend to have served. A true military person would never question the political makeup of who was serving next to him/her.
Now St.Daryll, run along. I’m sure there’s an infertility clinic you can protest about unused, frozen tissues
January 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pmRUCerious… I am quite aware that that is a Cheney quote. And where in that quote or anywhere else in the interview does Cheney say “people do not have the stomach to complete this mission?”
Try again. I’ll wait.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:30 pm“I wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberal”
January 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pmSeems like they are the only ones that went to war; Bob Kerry, John Kerry, dare I say it James Webb, Jack Murtha and our new compadre Chuck Hagel. List goes on shit heel. I’ll go to war with anyone of these proud Americans over one of your 4F, draft dodger (5 Deferments? Can anyone say Pussy?), Air National Guard Ivy League Male Cheerleader types anyday
“distortion[s] of Cheney’s words” are completely irrelevant; he has no credibility. no one believes a word that comes out of his mouth.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:32 pm“I wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberalâ€
Cheney said the same thing… five times.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:33 pmIs #51, Daryll a grown up?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI wouldn’t want to fight in a war next to a liberal - Daryll
Don’t worry, dear daryll, you never have, never will & can only fantasize about fighting.
You’re a wuss Daryll, & so is your other brother Daryll.
Go back & study your bible now like a good kid. You have much to learn & little time to learn it.
Oh, and by the way, Daryll…I think Cheney’s in his last throes.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pmHere is what Cheney actually said:
“But the biggest problem we face right now, is the danger than the United States will validate the terrorist’s strategy, that in fact what will happen here, with all of the debate over whether or not we ought to stay in Iraq, where the pressure is from some quarters to get out of Iraq, if we were to do that, we would simply validate the terrorist’s strategy, that says the Americans will not stay to complete the task –That we don’t have the stomach for the fight. That’s the biggest threat.”
January 25th, 2007 at 3:37 pmwhat he said is based on absolutely zero factual evidence
January 25th, 2007 at 3:43 pm[D.A.R.Y.L.] sez…
I am not a robot…
January 25th, 2007 at 3:44 pmExley, where exactly did Cheney get that ‘terrorist’s strategy’? Hmm?
Cheney’s saying “The terrorists say you don’t have the stomach for a fight! Are you going to let them say that?” He’s trying to shame America into the fight, while he, being utterly without shame himself, sits comfortably on the sidelines and manages his portfolio.
While it’s true that Cheney didn’t say outright that the American public may not have the “stomach for the fight.â€, it’s beyond dispute that that’s what he’s inferring, and to attempt to defend him with semantics makes you every bit as despicable as he is.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSo Cheney’s approval ratings are like negative 20%, and someone still supports him? Exley?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmA technocrat he may be … but isnt a technocrat what we need after years of shooting from the hip and endless posturing from the democrats?
http://www.rollingstone.com/ politics/ story/ 13248532/ why_gore_should_run__and_how_he_can_win/ 1
It might be a bit insane on my part… but an independent Gore/Lieberman may pull in the middle-left and middle-right (Republicans got Lieberman elected as an independant already)… and a focused effort by ALL Americans on the middle east would be good indeed.
AND wouldnt it be good to have a non democrat non republican admistration for the first time in a long time?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:48 pmHeavens to mergatroid, Dickhead Cheney-Wheney. You’re bad- a bad, bad weinie. To be perfectly honest, I have a great deal of difficulty calling these people “men” or “humans”. I just can’t bring myself to do it. Animals come to mind; creeps, bottom feeders, evil-doers, con-artists, and a whole slew of the most vile words imaginable. But, I just can’t call these blood-sucking amoebas human beings. It seems like such a contradiction of words. Cheney is in the news an awful lot this past couple of days. I guess he must be out drumming up support, for his upcoming interview with the federal prosecuter.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:49 pmDaryll thinks if he just waits a while, then returns to TP, those annoying couple of people who call him out will be gone.
News Flash Daryll,
Any progressive who posts here can easily call you out on your crap. Keep trying though.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:53 pmDarryl he was pointing at YOU.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:54 pmDon’t tell me St.Daryll just posted and ran….did he?
and where did TripMaster Monkey’s fine rebuttal disappear to?
January 25th, 2007 at 3:57 pmI’m tired of you liberals pointing fingers at our dear President.
Daryll,
Were you sent an invitation to come here?
Were you forced to read these posts?
If your tired, then take a rest.
January 25th, 2007 at 3:58 pm“But the biggest problem we face right now, is the danger than the United States will validate the terrorist’s strategy, that in fact what will happen here, with all of the debate over whether or not we ought to stay in Iraq, where the pressure is from some quarters to get out of Iraq, if we were to do that, we would simply validate the terrorist’s strategy, that says the Americans will not stay to complete the task –That we don’t have the stomach for the fight. That’s the biggest threat.â€
Comment by Exley
Pick a specific goal and knock it out… use overwhelming force or dont go in…
Stay the course? That was debunked thousands of years ago…
WAGING WAR
1. Sun Tzu said: In the operations of war,
where there are in the field a thousand swift chariots,
as many heavy chariots, and a hundred thousand
mail-clad soldiers, with provisions enough to carry them
a thousand li, the expenditure at home and at the front,
including entertainment of guests, small items such as
glue and paint, and sums spent on chariots and armor,
will reach the total of a thousand ounces of silver per day.
Such is the cost of raising an army of 100,000 men.
2. When you engage in actual fighting, if victory
is long in coming, then men’s weapons will grow dull and
their ardor will be damped. If you lay siege to a town,
you will exhaust your strength.
3. Again, if the campaign is protracted, the resources
of the State will not be equal to the strain.
4. Now, when your weapons are dulled, your ardor damped,
your strength exhausted and your treasure spent,
other chieftains will spring up to take advantage
of your extremity. Then no man, however wise,
will be able to avert the consequences that must ensue.
5. Thus, though we have heard of stupid haste in war,
cleverness has never been seen associated with long delays.
6. There is no instance of a country having benefited
January 25th, 2007 at 4:06 pmfrom prolonged warfare.
The sad thing about you liberal bloggers is that because of your views (Open borders and withdrawal from Iraq), we’ll receive another terrorist attack harsher than 9/11. How about supporting the troops by pressuring your Senator/Congressman to support more funding for the Iraq war. The only way we can seek closure is by winning the battle. The troops need more funding for equipment and we must revitalize Iraq. Liberals, why do you hate Jesus and our troops?
January 25th, 2007 at 4:09 pmExley, so your position is Cheney did not say Americans don’t have the stomach for the fight; Cheney said Americans are validating the terrorists’ notion that we don’t have the stomach for the fight.
Cheney saying this is sending the very signal he says is harmful to our troops.
Tell us what Cheney really meant. Tell us Cheney believes Americans have the stomach for the fight, including the 2/3 who think invading Iraq was a mistake.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThe sad thing about you liberal bloggers is that because of your views (Open borders and withdrawal from Iraq), we’ll receive another terrorist attack harsher than 9/11. How about supporting the troops by pressuring your Senator/Congressman to support more funding for the Iraq war. The only way we can seek closure is by winning the battle. The troops need more funding for equipment and we must revitalize Iraq. Liberals, why do you hate Jesus and our troops?
Comment by Daryll
Blah blah blah… the borders SHOULD be protected… and illegals should be turned into legals or kicked out depending on what SPECIFIC plan dictates the correct coarse…
Iraq HAS CAUSED more terrorism. Many many many Iraqis will want revenge on us for the rest of their lives…. stop kissing Bush ass Daryll.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:16 pmWhen did hating Jesus come into the Iraq war? Did I miss something? Did the second coming occur in Iraq, and if so why is daryll still posting? Shouldn’t the rapture have swept him up?
Hey Daryll, win a few elections, then you can call the shots buddy boy.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:16 pmDaryll, you were so close. The correct question is, “Why do you hate the baby Jesus, innocent Iraqis, our troops, and kittens?”
Thanks for playing!
January 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pmLiberals, why do you hate Jesus and our troops?
Comment by Daryll
Well tell us Daryll, who does Jesus say we should bomb today?
January 25th, 2007 at 4:18 pmOK, Mr X, I am taking the inference that the word “But” implies that we don’t have the stomach…
He did say
“But the biggest problem we face right now, is the danger than the United States will validate
the terrorist’s strategy, that in fact what will happen here, with all of the debate over whether or
not we ought to stay in Iraq, where the pressure is from some quarters to get out of Iraq, if we
were to do that, we would simply validate the terrorist’s strategy, that says the Americans will not
stay to complete the task –”
then later said
“It is a good strategy. It will work. But we have to have the stomach to finish the task.”
The implication is clear to me, do you not recognize it?
January 25th, 2007 at 4:22 pmAnd Daryll, while you’re esplainen yourself, how did you get a degree in CIS from Oral Roberts, and spend four years in the military, and are a 24 year old african american IT guru?
January 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pmFolks, Exley has already made up his mind. Everytime he starts questioning some government doing he remembers himself September 11th. Its sad and pathetic. He will go all the way, all the time to defend undefendible causes.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pmCheney is a traitor.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:24 pmWow…..Congratulations to RUCurious and others for so eloquently debunking Exley and Daryll. Those trolls do provide one service…they help us clarify our thoughts. That is a good thing, idiotic as their arguments are.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:25 pmDaryll,
If Jesus was around to give his 2 cents, he certainly would not want all this killing going on, and would tell us God will take care of the Muslims.
Yeah Daryll, who would Jesus want our troops to kill today?
January 25th, 2007 at 4:25 pmDaryll, Jesus is a liberal. And I don’t believe you have the authority to evoke his name in any of this.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI have always thought Daryll is a very good parody.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:27 pmHey, St.Daryll was not a one post wonder, but yehaww, here comes my second disection:
January 25th, 2007 at 4:27 pmThe sad thing about you liberal bloggers is that because of your views (Open borders and withdrawal from Iraq), we’ll receive another terrorist attack harsher than 9/11.
and whose watch was it when 9/11 happened? Who was on vacation when the all important memo stating an attack is imminent, and yet was practically ignored? Oh yeah, your wannabe Christian in Crime, Dubya.
How about supporting the troops by pressuring your Senator/Congressman to support more funding for the Iraq war. The only way we can seek closure is by winning the battle. The troops need more funding for equipment and we must revitalize Iraq.
First, who cut the funding and equipment? Couldn’t have been the Republican controlled Congress, now could it? And, chickenhawk, it’s not about closure, it’s bringing our brave men and women home, safely. It’s about no more deaths.
Liberals, why do you hate Jesus and our troops?
Again, you have learned well from Master Exley, but you are an idiot for even posting that.
What have you done to show your love for Jesus? Attack homosexuals. Lie about your military service. Label liberals as second class citizens.
Not helping the poor. Yep, you sure ’nuff practice what our Saviour preached.
As for the troops, what have you done? Probably bought a yellow ribbon for your car, and that’s it. Well, I kinda like ya, St.Daryll (Not a gay like, more along a sympathy like), so put your money where your mouth is. Give 10% of your income to feed the poor, and donate all of your toiletries to our armed forces.
Oh, and stop bashing homosexuals. It just makes you look silly.
Oh, one more thing, re-enlist for the cause, my friend, re-enlist for the cause.
“why do you hate Jesus”
I do not hate Jesus and I have never said so Daryll. I do not, however, believe is in any way, shape or form, a god, a son of a god, born of a virgin, a miracle worker etc.
Daryll, why do you want more people to die? What did any Iraqi do to America to deserve to be killed? Why isn’t Osama dead?
The troops need to go to Afghanistan Daryll, that is where the bad guys are.
Your reason for living is a hoax brought to you by some ancient pompous religious leaders that hated the Jewish religion. Find a new reason for living - there are many out there.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:28 pmHmmmm RUCurious…
January 25th, 2007 at 4:34 pmNow that’s a name I have not heard in a very long time…Heh ;)
The sad thing about you liberal bloggers is that because of your views (Open borders and withdrawal from Iraq), we’ll receive another terrorist attack harsher than 9/11.
The sad thing about you fanatics is you think everyone is a liberal because you watch TV. Do you really think the generals on the ground are going to read this blog and say oh yes, wise liberal bloggers say pull out, open borders and then proceed to do it? Do you really think that the troops spend their days and nights reading what people say here and then go out and make it happen ignoring their superior? Do you think the ‘liberals’, whatever your television induced definition is, have access to troop movements and somehow have control of the chain of command? Do you think a terrorist would read this blog and discover some national security secret? Do you understand how heavily encrypted intelligence data is?
Daryll don’t go away mad, just go away. I post here because it’s my choice, not because I am gay (I’m not), or a liberal, or an aetheist. I have my system of belief, much like yours, so get off your holier than thou train wreck, that moral value voter tripe, which got derailed along with your culture of corruption long ago and step back into reality.
I believe in GOD, I really don’t care if you, or anyone else in here does. Now take your pedestrian ass off that non-existent pedestal you have imagined yourself upon and stop judging people you do not know.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:36 pmCheney loses more and more credibility every time he opens his mouth. I’m still waiting for his impeachment.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:41 pmDimbullb = Rachel
Hi Rachel.
January 25th, 2007 at 4:44 pmNow that’s a name I have not heard in a very long time…Heh ;)
Comment by RUCerious
Hopefully not in a men´s bathroom. :)
January 25th, 2007 at 4:45 pmDimbullb = Rachel
Hi Rachel.
Comment by ForTruth
Actually if you followed the posts you would see that it’s Zep.
Don’t worry I won’t diss your lack of ESP =)
January 25th, 2007 at 4:49 pmNow that’s a name I have not heard in a very long time…Heh ;)
Comment by RUCerious
Hopefully not in a men´s bathroom. :)
Comment by Juan C
lemme see bathrooms and obsessions with male anatomy.
Why Juan C must be Rachel.
(kidding of course, but you can see that people are not very good guessers)
January 25th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI have always thought Daryll is a very good parody.
Comment by Juan C — January 25, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
me too! … but he is wearing thin…
January 25th, 2007 at 4:53 pmSorry Dimbullb,
Bad guess.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pmbut he is wearing thin…
Comment by katy
Eww don’t look.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pmDid fatso Georing have any more faith in the German people than fatso Cheney have in the American people? Didn’t think so.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:21 pmIt’s a sad commentary that the Democrats don’t have someone like Senator Hagel to stand up to the administration and speak truth to power. Jim Webb will be another.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:23 pmLiberals, why do you hate Jesus andour troops?-comment by Daryll
January 25th, 2007 at 5:25 pmCheney had NO stomach to wear his country’s uniform let alone fight in Vietnam, nor doe Daryll apparently. Both would have been fragged.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:33 pmCheney can glibly say that because HE WON’T BE HERE MUCH LONGER.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:33 pmHe is one heartbeat away from eternity-easy for him to lay this threat on the rest of us left here to clean up after the diastrous results of his ceaseless greed and rape of the U.S. Constitution and its citizens, Iraqi’s and countless others!
“He will go all the way, all the time to defend undefendible causes.”
Says the man who defends the terrorists in Iraq who set off bombs in mosques, markets, and universities, killing hundreds of innocent civilians.
Juan, your hypocrisy is both amusing and sad.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:45 pmJoe Phelan, have you already forgotten Murtha? Jim Webb is one who won’t take it. Obama is another. The Democrats have found a backbone. They old guard of the Dem party has to step aside and allow the new blood to be the voice.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:45 pmAt least Fatso Goering went to war as a fighter pilot in WW1 unlike Dickless.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:49 pmWhat a contemptible little coward he is.
Geez Exley, just because we deride your freakin fearless leader for causing the hell on earth that is Iraq today doesn’t mean we support or condone any of the violence that your party has wrought.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:52 pmGet a clue. Or buy one. Please.
johnnyk; true, how very true.
January 25th, 2007 at 5:52 pmRUCerious, where did I say you support or condone violence?
January 25th, 2007 at 5:58 pmAs usual, Dick “Head” Cheney opened his mouth and lies popped out. In the 1960’s, Dick “Head” was too gutless and too much of a coward to serve in the military when this nation was fighting a war in Vietnam which Dick “Head” himself would tell you was “for liberty and democracy to defeat communism.” Yet Dick “Head” has the gall to question Americans on our willingness to fight this war?
America’s problem is not the will and courage of its people. The biggest problem in this nation for the past 6 years is how dishonestly and incompetently the nation has been led by the Bush administration and the recent GOP-controlled Congress.
January 25th, 2007 at 6:00 pmWhere are the posts on the Democratic Congress NOT cutting funds for the war? OH - I forgot. ThinkProgress and other liberals just want to us lose the war so they can further embarrass Bush.
If liberals actually believed what Bush was doing wrong, they would chide the Senate for sitting back and doing nothing while Bush escalates the war. BUT you people don’t care. You just HATE Bush and everything he does. You pray for murder in mayhem in Baghdad in hopes of taking back the White House in 2006.
You are sick and disgusting and should be forced to live a regime like Iraq pre-war or Iran present day. You are cowards whose values are rooted in hatred of Christianity and democracy.
January 25th, 2007 at 6:19 pm#121 - hey dipshit. It’s a Democratic Congress today. AND the last time I checked, they were rolling over and playing dead for Bushie. Escalation no problem.
January 25th, 2007 at 6:20 pm#122, Hey Ronald Reagan said Iraq was just fine under Saddam. When did you conservatives flip-flop on that issue? 2003?
January 25th, 2007 at 6:26 pmComment by Liberals Heart Terrorists
Do you want to continue looking like an idiot or do you want us to educate you by showing several examples of people bitching about the democrats starting with that Sheehan woman who snuck onto TV in Washington not long ago and said she was going to hold the democrats feet to the fire just like the republicans?
January 25th, 2007 at 6:26 pm#124 - don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan. But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993 and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary. STILL DO.
#125 - You’ll have cred when you attack Hillary the way you have attacked Bush. Her husband and her enabled this war. Clinton even bombed a tylenol factory in the name of Sadam.
January 25th, 2007 at 6:35 pmI find it interesting that the Vice President would say that Americans don’t have the stomach for a fight. Isn’t this the same Vice President that had ‘other priorities’ when called to service in Vietnam. What a chickenhawk.
We’ll see who has a stomach when the investigations get into full swing.
January 25th, 2007 at 7:17 pmYou know it is sad to say, but Exley is right, dirty dick never said exactly those words, however his implications are very clear. All along Bush has been accused of saying Iraq was part of 911, but he never said so, however each time he spoke he seemd to have the same schtick Iraq..danger…wmd…danger…terrorists…911 (pouty face)…never again (angry face). The implications were always there. And the implication that those americans who do not agree with bush do not have the stomach for the fight is and has been clearly implied for quite some time.
But think about that…do not have the stomach for the fight…it’s all about the image they wish to project. They want to show that America’s military might can do anything and cow any enemy. They have no interest in thinking, diplomacy or staus quo, it is all about getting things their way regardless of the cost paid. Ths adminsitration from day one has always been about image and has had very little substance to go along with it.
January 25th, 2007 at 7:23 pmNo appologies needed. Dick Cheney did scare this country during the election. I’ll paraphrase so if you want the actual quote go chew kibbles. He said that if you vote for Democrats we will be hit by a terrorist attack again. And Bush just before this last election. A vote for democrats and the terrorists win.
Bullshit, and LHT, for you to think it isn’t shows the qty of spoonfed doinkberries you’ve chomping on.
Oh yeah, Reagan slept thru his second term and his approval ratings are comparible to Clinton’s. Now go chew some more Kibble.
January 25th, 2007 at 7:38 pm“Reagan slept thru his second term”
How could anyone tell?
January 25th, 2007 at 8:46 pmWhat’s that rumble? Swift Boats are a comin’ … outta the water Chucky Boy
January 25th, 2007 at 8:52 pm# 128 Mark—you are correct, I believe, about the cowardice of the Republicans in the way they try to maniuplate while trying to save their asses …”I never said that…exactly…..”
Exley is part of this save your ass at any and all costs crowd……..hiding behind technicalities……but dishonest and truly selfish at heart. Americans have seen through this gambit. We are not only tired of it, but we are angry. I have nothing but contempt for the Exleys. They are narrow minded and they are petty. That may not sound major….only problem is that their pettiness and entitlement mentality kills other people. We have to stop it and call them on
January 25th, 2007 at 9:36 pmALL of it. So…..yes, Mark. You are correct.
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January 25th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq.
Comment by Exley
GWB’s ass is worth saving, eh? So what do you think of the 3064 needlessly and wrongly dead troops? Worth it?
January 25th, 2007 at 10:16 pmI myself can see what Cheney said might be offensive, but if you listen to his words it implies that our polls and unwilling to sacrifice and see this to the end appears to the extremist of the world that we can’t handle such. Clever on everyones part to take something like this and spin as if he really belives that. I can however understand how must people are so upset that they make such a huge mistake. But we all set back and lived it up for a long time, ignoring or flat out not seeing the fact that the world was changing and we need to be a factor (major factor). Well low and behold 9-11 and we all was ready for the fight. Bush and the admin makes a serious F*&KUP and goes into Iraq with a flat lie. Why? Most likely cause from the get go Americans would of not taken to such action because we seem to forget that extremist are not confined to 1 section of the world (anymore). But history does show that the ideology of these extremist does have a birth place, hence Middle East. AND I MEAN EXTREMIST, NOT MUSLIM IN OF ITSELF, which is a very intersting and inspiring form of religion. So does that justify the actions of those before us? No! However, it is in our (rather you want to admit it or not) and the worlds for use to continue along and finish the job like Cheney says. Try finding comfort in knowing that we really don’t have a choice now and maybe (to a degree) never will again.
January 25th, 2007 at 10:20 pm#125 - You’ll have cred when you attack Hillary the way you have attacked Bush. Her husband and her enabled this war. Clinton even bombed a tylenol factory in the name of Sadam.
Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists
There are very few people in America that have violated our way of life as has Bush … neither of the Clintons are on that list… though I and many others will not be voting for Hillary… I guess if you got film of her eating jew babies or guiding a jet into WTC 2 then I could see your point.
January 25th, 2007 at 10:22 pmNow I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq.
Comment by Exley
When are you going to get it… Bush is a FOOL … he has always been considered a FOOL long before he was elected. And genius pills dont exist. Being stupid and being so blinded that you appear stupid are basically the same thing… birds of a feather Exley … birds of a feather…
January 25th, 2007 at 10:25 pmRobert WTF??? After 911 we all were ready to go WWII on someones ass… and Bush said GO SHOPPING…. not exactly FDR like now was it? Everyone was talking watching the news …researching on the net what led to 911…. and it was clear that Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia was a problem and we had guessed that Bush was going to do something about it… I dont remember ANYONE talking about Iraq…. it was quite a shock when the neocons started that crap…. Bush could have had us all behind him in a WWII style war…. he blew it … in fact it is SUSPICIOUS that he sent us into Iraq when even we civilians had access to the info to point us to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.
January 25th, 2007 at 10:30 pmNow I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq.
Comment by Exley
What can EVER be worth saving in Dubya’s sorry chickenshit ass??? Hagel, Webb and everyone else who ever served in ‘Nam or other places of valor has earned more respect than that AWOL Scumbag Dubya and Deferment Cheney. And NEVER EVER call Hagel a coward… he has earned his right to speak out… unlike the other Chickenhawks in this Bullshit Cabal in the WH.
A fellow Vietnam Combat veteran. So FU Exley!!!
January 25th, 2007 at 10:37 pmGerald Gibon Jr…..it is YOU that do not get it. And what you do not get is that the Exley’s are not honestly arguing their points. They are pawns, paid trolls, or mentally disturbed. Those are the choices. THEY …DO …NOT …GET …IT. And that is what YOU do not get. Do not continue to try to reason with unreasonable, disingenuous and twisted posters.
January 25th, 2007 at 10:40 pmIf Exley thinks Hagel is a coward, that makes me admire Hagel even more. Exley went over the line when he challenged Hagel and all veterans who speak out against Bush’s illegal immoral war.
Thank you upside00 #139 for your service to our country. I’m grateful to you and to Hagel, Webb and all Vets who will speak the truth. Oh, what a mess Bush started on March 19, 2003.
January 25th, 2007 at 10:53 pmWell, it has seemed for the last several years that Cheney and Co. have often echoed the same thing that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda claim.
Both seize upon crucial moments to scare the American public into submission.
Two faces of the same propaganda coin, if you ask me.
January 25th, 2007 at 11:05 pmCheney, Bush, Israel Joe Lieberman, Rove, the contemptible Condalizza: they are not Republicans, they are Reptilians, appealing to, and profiting from, our most base fears and desires; they prey upon, and operate from, atavistic impulses that are devoid of morality, rationality, empathy or compassion…they are beyond politics, they tap into the primordial ooze from which most of humanity has risen. They are slime-encrusted agents of evil–they are reptiles, and they serve the Reptilian Party. It’s not politics, my friends; it’s Satanism, pure and simple.
January 25th, 2007 at 11:21 pmWhy does Cheney hate the American public?
January 25th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWhy does Cheney hate the troops?
Why does Cheney hate American democracy?
Why does Cheney hate America?
Yet another name-jacking has occurred. Post # 133 was not written by me. I would ask that ThinkProgress remove that post. My last posting was at 5:58 pm — Posting 120.
By the way, Mark at posting 128 — “You know it is sad to say, but Exley is right, dirty dick never said exactly those words– thank you. That is all I was saying.
January 25th, 2007 at 11:55 pm#124 - don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan. But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993 and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary. STILL DO.
Comment by Reagan Heart Terrorists
Or didn’t you know he sold weapons to terrorists?
Reagan was a traitor, who would do anything for the sake of political expediency. His Alzheimers’s was the only thing that kept him from being impeached, as Lawrence Walsh took pity on him, after seeing how addled Reagan was. He was on duty when the USSR fell, nothing more.
January 26th, 2007 at 2:32 amHe said the terrorists believe that Americans do not have the stomach for a fight and act on that belief.
How exactly are “they” going to “act on” thier belief more than they do already?
We should worry more about preventing them from gaining new recruits than we should about thier current capabilities.
The Iraq war is one of the best things that ever happened to the Al Queda franchise. Lots of pictures of dead women and children to gain new recruits, and lots of easy american targets in a shooting gallery with no clear mission and no good guys to put into power.
Al-Queda wants exactly what Exley and his false idol Bush want.. for more AMerican troops to be sent to Iraq and to continue to die there.
http://www.cnn.com/ 2007/ WORLD/ meast/ 01/ 22/ zawahiri.video/ index.html
“Al-Zawahiri cites Bush’s plan to send more than 20,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, and asks, “Why not send 50,000 or 100,000? Aren’t you aware that the dogs of Iraq are pining for your troops’ dead bodies?”
Why do Exley, Bush, and Al Queda all agree more Us troops in Iraq is a good thing?
the only difference is, Al-Queda people are smart enough to see the inevitable result of our continuted involvement in the civil war:
“the land of the caliphate and jihad, is able to bury 10 armies like yours”
Hey exley, how is that Israeli war they planned to “wipe out” Hezbollah in Lebanon going?
Oh and heres the info about the alleged plans for attacks on our soil that
we have to stay in iraq to continue to prevent…
“FBI officials said Monday that U.S. forces found documents at least six months ago indicating al Qaeda in Iraq was planning an attack on U.S. soil.
Officials who have seen the documents said the plot was more “aspirational” than “operational.” The FBI said it has no indication of a specific threat at this time.”
more “asperational” than “operational”.
hmmmm sounds like Al-Queda and the Bush administration have more in common than we thought.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:29 amwhat is beyond dispute is that she completely twised and distorted Cheney’s words
if you can’t take it, don’t dish it out. for tough guys, you guys sure do cry like little b1tches when you get a taste of your own medicine.
hey, Exlaxley, you have a good explanation about why the perjury trial of
your hero d1ck’s goon libby hasn’t gotten more attention in the “liberal media”?
Bush’s old press secretary is about to turn states evidence next week…
January 26th, 2007 at 5:41 am#124 - don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan.
sounds like this Tank moron from the old days. Reagan.. hehh …you idiots get your panties in a wad everytime that braindead alzheihmhers’ rotting zombie corpse’s name is dredged up.
But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993
Point is, Reagan was one of you guys.. and he thought Saddam was a great guy.. gave him weapons and gave him maps of where to use them…I got news for you buddy…. Saddam was gassing people when he was buddies with reagan.. more of them actually than the 90’s.. but your too stupid to know your history.. apparently gassing people is ok, as long as its done with american chemicals. But I admit, I’m biased. Anyone who gasses religious nuts of any persuasion has a fond place in my heart. Its really the only way to deal with them…
and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary.
Ah ha. Even though a study commissioned by a government run by your people showed that Saddam and Al Queda were enemies? That Saddam was actively trying to hunt Zaquiri down? That somehow killing hundreds of thousands of people to get rid of a secular dictator was going to deter islamic fanatics he had no involvement with? Why because they had the same skin color?
STILL DO
Wow, look guys… they really do exist.. people who still think we should go around blindly lashing out at unrelated countries with morally deplorable leaders as a response to 9-11. Your hero d1ck came up with a term for you people.. DEAD ENDERS!!
January 26th, 2007 at 7:06 amYes, indeed Mr. Cheney, I do believe there has been success in Iraq and there will continue to be success in Iraq, but only when we’re talking about the size of your wallet.
January 26th, 2007 at 8:41 amVice President Cheney is right…but I don’t think his reasons are correct
January 26th, 2007 at 8:47 amHagel is ALL ABOUT POLITICS. Hagel does not care about our security…hes only trying to get his name out there. He’s repulsive. I love Mr. Cheney’s abilty to express himself in such a cool manner. CHENEY ROCKS!!!!
Really? Dicky has little faith in our Country?
No shit. That’s why he treats it with contempt.
January 26th, 2007 at 9:36 amThank you, ThinkProgress, for removing the “name-jacked” posting (#133) falsely attributed to me. Your prompt response is appreciated.
January 26th, 2007 at 2:15 pmJust when I think I sort of like Hagel, he then goes and votes against raising the minimum wage.
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