Comments on: Hagel On Cheney Remarks: ‘He Has So Little Faith In This Country To Say Something Like That’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:04:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Blog Archive » Hagel Slams Cheney’s Callous Iraq Comments: Not ‘Out Of Character,’ Has A ‘Credibility Gap’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-4/#comment-4570872 Think Progress » Blog Archive » Hagel Slams Cheney’s Callous Iraq Comments: Not ‘Out Of Character,’ Has A ‘Credibility Gap’ Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:07:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-4570872 [...] Hagel said Cheney “underestimates the people of this country” and suggested that he tell families of the soldiers and tell them “that they don’t have the stomach.” Comments 0 Share [...] [...] Hagel said Cheney “underestimates the people of this country” and suggested that he tell families of the soldiers and tell them “that they don’t have the stomach.” Comments 0 Share [...]

]]> By: Lora http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-4/#comment-1544382 Lora Sat, 27 Jan 2007 05:14:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1544382 Just when I think I sort of like Hagel, he then goes and votes against raising the minimum wage. Just when I think I sort of like Hagel, he then goes and votes against raising the minimum wage.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1538928 Exley Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:15:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1538928 Thank you, ThinkProgress, for removing the "name-jacked" posting (#133) falsely attributed to me. Your prompt response is appreciated. Thank you, ThinkProgress, for removing the “name-jacked” posting (#133) falsely attributed to me. Your prompt response is appreciated.

]]> By: DieNowForPeace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1536749 DieNowForPeace Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:36:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1536749 Really? Dicky has little faith in our Country? No shit. That's why he treats it with contempt. Really? Dicky has little faith in our Country?

No shit. That’s why he treats it with contempt.

]]> By: Patti Eisenhut http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1535969 Patti Eisenhut Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:47:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1535969 Vice President Cheney is right...but I don't think his reasons are correct Hagel is ALL ABOUT POLITICS. Hagel does not care about our security...hes only trying to get his name out there. He's repulsive. I love Mr. Cheney's abilty to express himself in such a cool manner. CHENEY ROCKS!!!! Vice President Cheney is right…but I don’t think his reasons are correct
Hagel is ALL ABOUT POLITICS. Hagel does not care about our security…hes only trying to get his name out there. He’s repulsive. I love Mr. Cheney’s abilty to express himself in such a cool manner. CHENEY ROCKS!!!!

]]> By: Fedup http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1535940 Fedup Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:41:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1535940 Yes, indeed Mr. Cheney, I do believe there has been success in Iraq and there will continue to be success in Iraq, but only when we're talking about the size of your wallet. Yes, indeed Mr. Cheney, I do believe there has been success in Iraq and there will continue to be success in Iraq, but only when we’re talking about the size of your wallet.

]]> By: Whitey HermAphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1535295 Whitey HermAphrodite Fri, 26 Jan 2007 12:06:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1535295 <em>#124 - don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan. </em> sounds like this Tank moron from the old days. Reagan.. hehh ...you idiots get your panties in a wad everytime that braindead alzheihmhers' rotting zombie corpse's name is dredged up. <em>But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993</em> Point is, Reagan was one of you guys.. and he thought Saddam was a great guy.. gave him weapons and gave him maps of where to use them...I got news for you buddy.... Saddam was gassing people when he was buddies with reagan.. more of them actually than the 90's.. but your too stupid to know your history.. apparently gassing people is ok, as long as its done with american chemicals. But I admit, I'm biased. Anyone who gasses religious nuts of any persuasion has a fond place in my heart. Its really the only way to deal with them... <em>and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary.</em> Ah ha. Even though a study commissioned by a government run by your people showed that Saddam and Al Queda were enemies? That Saddam was actively trying to hunt Zaquiri down? That somehow killing hundreds of thousands of people to get rid of a secular dictator was going to deter islamic fanatics he had no involvement with? Why because they had the same skin color? <em>STILL DO</em> Wow, look guys... they really do exist.. people who still think we should go around blindly lashing out at unrelated countries with morally deplorable leaders as a response to 9-11. Your hero d1ck came up with a term for you people.. DEAD ENDERS!! #124 – don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan.

sounds like this Tank moron from the old days. Reagan.. hehh …you idiots get your panties in a wad everytime that braindead alzheihmhers’ rotting zombie corpse’s name is dredged up.

But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993

Point is, Reagan was one of you guys.. and he thought Saddam was a great guy.. gave him weapons and gave him maps of where to use them…I got news for you buddy…. Saddam was gassing people when he was buddies with reagan.. more of them actually than the 90’s.. but your too stupid to know your history.. apparently gassing people is ok, as long as its done with american chemicals. But I admit, I’m biased. Anyone who gasses religious nuts of any persuasion has a fond place in my heart. Its really the only way to deal with them…

and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary.

Ah ha. Even though a study commissioned by a government run by your people showed that Saddam and Al Queda were enemies? That Saddam was actively trying to hunt Zaquiri down? That somehow killing hundreds of thousands of people to get rid of a secular dictator was going to deter islamic fanatics he had no involvement with? Why because they had the same skin color?

STILL DO

Wow, look guys… they really do exist.. people who still think we should go around blindly lashing out at unrelated countries with morally deplorable leaders as a response to 9-11. Your hero d1ck came up with a term for you people.. DEAD ENDERS!!

]]> By: Whitey HermAphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1534767 Whitey HermAphrodite Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:41:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1534767 <em>what is beyond dispute is that she completely twised and distorted Cheney’s words </em> if you can't take it, don't dish it out. for tough guys, you guys sure do cry like little b1tches when you get a taste of your own medicine. hey, Exlaxley, you have a good explanation about why the perjury trial of your hero d1ck's goon libby hasn't gotten more attention in the "liberal media"? Bush's old press secretary is about to turn states evidence next week... what is beyond dispute is that she completely twised and distorted Cheney’s words

if you can’t take it, don’t dish it out. for tough guys, you guys sure do cry like little b1tches when you get a taste of your own medicine.

hey, Exlaxley, you have a good explanation about why the perjury trial of
your hero d1ck’s goon libby hasn’t gotten more attention in the “liberal media”?

Bush’s old press secretary is about to turn states evidence next week…

]]> By: Whitey HermAphrodite http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1534690 Whitey HermAphrodite Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:29:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1534690 <em>He said the terrorists believe that Americans do not have the stomach for a fight and act on that belief.</em> How exactly are "they" going to "act on" thier belief more than they do already? We should worry more about preventing them from gaining new recruits than we should about thier current capabilities. The Iraq war is one of the best things that ever happened to the Al Queda franchise. Lots of pictures of dead women and children to gain new recruits, and lots of easy american targets in a shooting gallery with no clear mission and no good guys to put into power. Al-Queda wants exactly what Exley and his false idol Bush want.. for more AMerican troops to be sent to Iraq and to continue to die there. http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/22/zawahiri.video/index.html "Al-Zawahiri cites Bush's plan to send more than 20,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, and asks, "Why not send 50,000 or 100,000? Aren't you aware that the dogs of Iraq are pining for your troops' dead bodies?" Why do Exley, Bush, and Al Queda all agree more Us troops in Iraq is a good thing? the only difference is, Al-Queda people are smart enough to see the inevitable result of our continuted involvement in the civil war: "the land of the caliphate and jihad, is able to bury 10 armies like yours" Hey exley, how is that Israeli war they planned to "wipe out" Hezbollah in Lebanon going? Oh and heres the info about the alleged plans for attacks on our soil that we have to stay in iraq to continue to prevent... "FBI officials said Monday that U.S. forces found documents at least six months ago indicating al Qaeda in Iraq was planning an attack on U.S. soil. Officials who have seen the documents said the plot was <strong>more "aspirational" than "operational." </strong>The FBI said it has no indication of a specific threat at this time." more "asperational" than "operational". hmmmm sounds like Al-Queda and the Bush administration have more in common than we thought. He said the terrorists believe that Americans do not have the stomach for a fight and act on that belief.

How exactly are “they” going to “act on” thier belief more than they do already?

We should worry more about preventing them from gaining new recruits than we should about thier current capabilities.

The Iraq war is one of the best things that ever happened to the Al Queda franchise. Lots of pictures of dead women and children to gain new recruits, and lots of easy american targets in a shooting gallery with no clear mission and no good guys to put into power.

Al-Queda wants exactly what Exley and his false idol Bush want.. for more AMerican troops to be sent to Iraq and to continue to die there.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/22/zawahiri.video/index.html

“Al-Zawahiri cites Bush’s plan to send more than 20,000 U.S. troops to Iraq, and asks, “Why not send 50,000 or 100,000? Aren’t you aware that the dogs of Iraq are pining for your troops’ dead bodies?”

Why do Exley, Bush, and Al Queda all agree more Us troops in Iraq is a good thing?

the only difference is, Al-Queda people are smart enough to see the inevitable result of our continuted involvement in the civil war:

“the land of the caliphate and jihad, is able to bury 10 armies like yours”

Hey exley, how is that Israeli war they planned to “wipe out” Hezbollah in Lebanon going?

Oh and heres the info about the alleged plans for attacks on our soil that
we have to stay in iraq to continue to prevent…

“FBI officials said Monday that U.S. forces found documents at least six months ago indicating al Qaeda in Iraq was planning an attack on U.S. soil.
Officials who have seen the documents said the plot was more “aspirational” than “operational.” The FBI said it has no indication of a specific threat at this time.”

more “asperational” than “operational”.

hmmmm sounds like Al-Queda and the Bush administration have more in common than we thought.

]]> By: Barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1531460 Barfly Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:32:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1531460 <em>#124 - don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan. But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993 and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary. STILL DO. Comment by Reagan Heart Terrorists</em> Or didn't you know he sold weapons to terrorists? Reagan was a traitor, who would do anything for the sake of political expediency. His Alzheimers's was the only thing that kept him from being impeached, as Lawrence Walsh took pity on him, after seeing how addled Reagan was. He was <em>on duty</em> when the USSR fell, nothing more. #124 – don’t invoke Reagan. Liberals fought Reagan tooth and nail when he was trying to end Soviet domination of Eastern Europe. You people HATED Reagan. But to your point, it was the combination of Sadam gassing his people his 1993 and 9/11 that made me think the war was necessary. STILL DO.

Comment by Reagan Heart Terrorists

Or didn’t you know he sold weapons to terrorists?

Reagan was a traitor, who would do anything for the sake of political expediency. His Alzheimers’s was the only thing that kept him from being impeached, as Lawrence Walsh took pity on him, after seeing how addled Reagan was. He was on duty when the USSR fell, nothing more.

]]> By: Exley http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530790 Exley Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:55:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530790 Yet another name-jacking has occurred. Post # 133 was not written by me. I would ask that ThinkProgress remove that post. My last posting was at 5:58 pm -- Posting 120. By the way, Mark at posting 128 -- "You know it is sad to say, but Exley is right, dirty dick never said exactly those words-- thank you. That is all I was saying. Yet another name-jacking has occurred. Post # 133 was not written by me. I would ask that ThinkProgress remove that post. My last posting was at 5:58 pm — Posting 120.

By the way, Mark at posting 128 — “You know it is sad to say, but Exley is right, dirty dick never said exactly those words– thank you. That is all I was saying.

]]> By: Willy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530714 Willy Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:42:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530714 Why does Cheney hate the American public? Why does Cheney hate the troops? Why does Cheney hate American democracy? Why does Cheney hate America? Why does Cheney hate the American public?
Why does Cheney hate the troops?
Why does Cheney hate American democracy?
Why does Cheney hate America?

]]> By: GWDumbass http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530587 GWDumbass Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:21:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530587 Cheney, Bush, Israel Joe Lieberman, Rove, the contemptible Condalizza: they are not Republicans, they are Reptilians, appealing to, and profiting from, our most base fears and desires; they prey upon, and operate from, atavistic impulses that are devoid of morality, rationality, empathy or compassion...they are beyond politics, they tap into the primordial ooze from which most of humanity has risen. They are slime-encrusted agents of evil--they are reptiles, and they serve the Reptilian Party. It's not politics, my friends; it's Satanism, pure and simple. Cheney, Bush, Israel Joe Lieberman, Rove, the contemptible Condalizza: they are not Republicans, they are Reptilians, appealing to, and profiting from, our most base fears and desires; they prey upon, and operate from, atavistic impulses that are devoid of morality, rationality, empathy or compassion…they are beyond politics, they tap into the primordial ooze from which most of humanity has risen. They are slime-encrusted agents of evil–they are reptiles, and they serve the Reptilian Party. It’s not politics, my friends; it’s Satanism, pure and simple.

]]> By: Eargy Earp http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530486 Eargy Earp Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:05:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530486 Well, it has seemed for the last several years that Cheney and Co. have often echoed the same thing that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda claim. Both seize upon crucial moments to scare the American public into submission. Two faces of the same propaganda coin, if you ask me. Well, it has seemed for the last several years that Cheney and Co. have often echoed the same thing that Bin Laden and Al Quaeda claim.

Both seize upon crucial moments to scare the American public into submission.

Two faces of the same propaganda coin, if you ask me.

]]> By: Outraged in Louisville http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530424 Outraged in Louisville Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:53:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530424 If Exley thinks Hagel is a coward, that makes me admire Hagel even more. Exley went over the line when he challenged Hagel and all veterans who speak out against Bush's illegal immoral war. Thank you upside00 #139 for your service to our country. I'm grateful to you and to Hagel, Webb and all Vets who will speak the truth. Oh, what a mess Bush started on March 19, 2003. If Exley thinks Hagel is a coward, that makes me admire Hagel even more. Exley went over the line when he challenged Hagel and all veterans who speak out against Bush’s illegal immoral war.

Thank you upside00 #139 for your service to our country. I’m grateful to you and to Hagel, Webb and all Vets who will speak the truth. Oh, what a mess Bush started on March 19, 2003.

]]> By: s http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530323 s Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:40:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530323 Gerald Gibon Jr.....it is YOU that do not get it. And what you do not get is that the Exley's are not honestly arguing their points. They are pawns, paid trolls, or mentally disturbed. Those are the choices. THEY ...DO ...NOT ...GET ...IT. And that is what YOU do not get. Do not continue to try to reason with unreasonable, disingenuous and twisted posters. Gerald Gibon Jr…..it is YOU that do not get it. And what you do not get is that the Exley’s are not honestly arguing their points. They are pawns, paid trolls, or mentally disturbed. Those are the choices. THEY …DO …NOT …GET …IT. And that is what YOU do not get. Do not continue to try to reason with unreasonable, disingenuous and twisted posters.

]]> By: upside00 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530296 upside00 Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:37:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530296 <em>Now I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq. Comment by Exley</em> What can EVER be worth saving in Dubya's sorry chickenshit ass??? Hagel, Webb and everyone else who ever served in 'Nam or other places of valor has earned more respect than that AWOL Scumbag Dubya and Deferment Cheney. And NEVER EVER call Hagel a coward... he has earned his right to speak out... unlike the other Chickenhawks in this Bullshit Cabal in the WH. A fellow Vietnam Combat veteran. <strong>So FU Exley!!!</strong> Now I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq.

Comment by Exley

What can EVER be worth saving in Dubya’s sorry chickenshit ass??? Hagel, Webb and everyone else who ever served in ‘Nam or other places of valor has earned more respect than that AWOL Scumbag Dubya and Deferment Cheney. And NEVER EVER call Hagel a coward… he has earned his right to speak out… unlike the other Chickenhawks in this Bullshit Cabal in the WH.

A fellow Vietnam Combat veteran. So FU Exley!!!

]]> By: Gerald Gibson Jr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530236 Gerald Gibson Jr Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:30:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530236 Robert WTF??? After 911 we all were ready to go WWII on someones ass... and Bush said GO SHOPPING.... not exactly FDR like now was it? Everyone was talking watching the news ...researching on the net what led to 911.... and it was clear that Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia was a problem and we had guessed that Bush was going to do something about it... I dont remember ANYONE talking about Iraq.... it was quite a shock when the neocons started that crap.... Bush could have had us all behind him in a WWII style war.... he blew it ... in fact it is SUSPICIOUS that he sent us into Iraq when even we civilians had access to the info to point us to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Robert WTF??? After 911 we all were ready to go WWII on someones ass… and Bush said GO SHOPPING…. not exactly FDR like now was it? Everyone was talking watching the news …researching on the net what led to 911…. and it was clear that Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia was a problem and we had guessed that Bush was going to do something about it… I dont remember ANYONE talking about Iraq…. it was quite a shock when the neocons started that crap…. Bush could have had us all behind him in a WWII style war…. he blew it … in fact it is SUSPICIOUS that he sent us into Iraq when even we civilians had access to the info to point us to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

]]> By: Gerald Gibson Jr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530196 Gerald Gibson Jr Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:25:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530196 <em>Now I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq. Comment by Exley </em> When are you going to get it... Bush is a FOOL ... he has always been considered a FOOL long before he was elected. And genius pills dont exist. Being stupid and being so blinded that you appear stupid are basically the same thing... birds of a feather Exley ... birds of a feather... Now I get accused of trying to save Bush’s ass at any cost. Bush’s ass is worth saving. You are just not smart enough to realize it. I’m sick of Hagel and other cowards who wll not support Bush and his march to democracy in Iraq.

Comment by Exley

When are you going to get it… Bush is a FOOL … he has always been considered a FOOL long before he was elected. And genius pills dont exist. Being stupid and being so blinded that you appear stupid are basically the same thing… birds of a feather Exley … birds of a feather…

]]> By: Gerald Gibson Jr http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-1530170 Gerald Gibson Jr Fri, 26 Jan 2007 03:22:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/25/hagel-cheney/#comment-1530170 <em>#125 - You’ll have cred when you attack Hillary the way you have attacked Bush. Her husband and her enabled this war. Clinton even bombed a tylenol factory in the name of Sadam. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists</em> There are very few people in America that have violated our way of life as has Bush ... neither of the Clintons are on that list... though I and many others will not be voting for Hillary... I guess if you got film of her eating jew babies or guiding a jet into WTC 2 then I could see your point. #125 – You’ll have cred when you attack Hillary the way you have attacked Bush. Her husband and her enabled this war. Clinton even bombed a tylenol factory in the name of Sadam.

Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists

There are very few people in America that have violated our way of life as has Bush … neither of the Clintons are on that list… though I and many others will not be voting for Hillary… I guess if you got film of her eating jew babies or guiding a jet into WTC 2 then I could see your point.

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