Famed country singer Toby Keith,
By on Jan 26th, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Famed country singer Toby Keith,
who engaged in a public feud with the Dixie Chicks and once sang a two-fisted song about putting “a boot in [the] ass” of the terrorists, tells Newsday that he doesn’t support the Iraq war. “‘Never did,’ he says — and he favors setting a time limit on the occupation. He says he suspects civil war in Iraq is inevitable and predicts the Kurds will be the victors: ‘I promise you, they’ll end up with it all.’”
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I would like to put a double fisted PAIR of boots up you progressives asses for supporting terrorists.
Not just one.
Both.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWell I’m sure glad Toby Keith has his story straight. My guess is that he’s never heard of the phrase “revisionist history.”
January 26th, 2007 at 4:39 pmOH NO TOBY. You will now be restricted to specialty radio stations and your records (ah CD’s – sorry, dating myself!) will be promptly sent to the Dixie Chicks graveyard.
Toby Keith, takin’ the O out of Country.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:40 pmSSSSHHHHH!! Dont tell Hannity, his pea sized brain could explode!!!!
January 26th, 2007 at 4:41 pmI for one am glad to see that Toby’s getting his story straight. My guess is that he’s unfamiliar with the phrase “revisionist history.”
January 26th, 2007 at 4:42 pmSo, what is it- Two fists or a boot, up the a-? Why is this eye-opening piece even in the news? I think that I’ll continue with my siesta. -snore-
January 26th, 2007 at 4:43 pmI’ve heard interviews with this guy over the years and he never said in those interviews that this was his position, but I always had the feeling that his real feelings were not what was being expressed in his songs. However what he sang about was what would sell. Doesn’t make it right and it does not make me like his music. I’m not a huge fan of the new country.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:44 pmToby Keith is a dumbass.
Natalie Maines should kick him in the balls, but she has too much class.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:45 pmJoanie Doe, ya need a little puff puff give and chill out. I’m sure Toby spent some quality time with Willie and he’s seen the light. Who’s army is it to waste anyway?
January 26th, 2007 at 4:51 pmI’m with you Ranger……What’s the matter Toby are your sale’s down.?..Sorry, I won’t buy one of your cd’s ever but I support the Dixie Chick’s, alway’s have….Uppity women unite…..LOL….Blessings
January 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmI would like to put a double fisted PAIR of boots up you progressives asses for supporting terrorists.
Not just one.
Both.
Comment by Joanie Doe
Boy, you right-wingers sure are obsessed with putting things up people’s asses.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:52 pmTo those with the “revisionist history” comments, sorry but you’re off the mark here. In the midst of the Keith-Maines controversy I read an article and saw a television spot where Keith expressed the exact sentiments in this article. He proclaimed himelf then as being a lifelong Democrat and that his songs were about being patriotic and supportive of the men and women in the armed forces.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:55 pmMy Repub friends died a little on the inside when they saw that….they had been talking him up for some time and to find out he was not cut from the Republican cloth distressed them.
The people of the Democratic party hold a variety of opinions and to think that we have to follow some sort of “party line” opinion is very myopic.
#1 Rachel,
I think you got it backwards. It’s the Conservatives who are the terrorists best friend.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:55 pmEnjoy.
NOT that I love TK, but he has said in the past that he doesn’t agree with the war in Iraq.
That said, he was an asshole for how he treated Maines.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:56 pmdouble fisted PAIR of boots
So you want to put your hands, fisted, into boots THEN shove them up people’s asses.
Just want to make sure we get that straight.
January 26th, 2007 at 4:57 pmJemery @ 11
“touche’ “……
January 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pmJoanie Doe, do you have 4 fists to shove the pair of double fisted boots in our asses?
January 26th, 2007 at 4:59 pmLying ass Toby Keith. He has Always been opposed to the war. YEAH RIGHT!! He probably had an erection during shock and awe.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:00 pmMr. Keith, give me one good reason why I should believe a word you say.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:12 pmToby Keith got in bed with Bush 100%. Now he sees that might not have been the best plan of action because essentially everyone sees him as a joke and a traitor to the United States now, rather than a musician. Sales are down. His career will peter out years earlier than it would have had he not chosen to follow Bush. There are prices to pay for our actions. Toby is paying the price now. And I don’t feel sorry for him. He should have thought first before he opened his big, uneducated mouth.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:12 pmI would like to put a double fisted PAIR of boots up you progressives asses for supporting terrorists.
Not just one.
Both.
Comment by Rachel Doe — January 26, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Which not just one, but two terrorists are you talking about?
On topic…notice how certain individuals “ride the political wave”?
January 26th, 2007 at 5:20 pmBack when you were labeled unpatriotic if you had any questioning of the illegal invasion of Iraq (i.e. Dixie Chicks), Tobey was there to kick some anti-American A$$. USA! USA! USA! …and thus the feud
But today, when the American people, thru voting (and thru opinions-72 to 28) have said “No more blood for oil”, Tobey does a 180 and states “I never supported the Iraqi War” Translation: My fan base has grown up and realized the lies and deceipts. I better too, or no more moolah for Mr. Keith
i saw him on a segment of cbs sunday morning show:
Although Keith has supported President George W. Bush, he says he is not a conservative.
[not that bush supporters are real conservatives]
“It’s amazing how many Republicans call me for support. And then they go, ‘You’re a Republican right?’ And you go, ‘Well I’m actually a lifetime Democrat,’” he said. “And then they go, ‘Oh, sorry.’ And the Democrats want so bad — the real liberals really want to hate me. And then they go, ‘I still hate you, but I can’t believe you’re a Democrat.’ So I’m not a real political guy. I’m a very patriotic guy.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/10/sunday/main1990758.shtml
mostly, he’s an opportunistic guy… but, can’t begrudge him that…
January 26th, 2007 at 5:25 pmexcept that he hides his democratic ties – and that ain’t patriotic…
just sayin’…
Interesting how the flag waving, we’re going to kick ass “patriots” are beginning to realize that bush has led them into an nasty and deadly mess. Too bad these clowns are slow learners. Flags, guns, bombs and death in real life are not the answer to conflict between humans.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:26 pmyea, DRxJ – he wasn’t talking about being a democrat in this
January 26th, 2007 at 5:42 pmdecember 03 interview on 60minutes…
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/28/60II/main580469.shtml
Toby Keith is a talentless, right wing ass. Give me Patsy Cline or Hank Willams over ANY current country star (except for Dwight Yoakam). Most current country stars suck royal ass anyway.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:47 pmAfter I write this, I’m dashing out to a record store.
Toby Keith’s new CD is out today. The title is:
‘CRAZY’
Yeah, it’s the old Patsy Cline hit. Other songs on the CD are:
1. ‘Take This War And Shove It.’
2. ‘Take Toby Keith And Shove It.’
3. ‘Not Ready To Make Nice.’
4. ‘Son-Of-A-Bitch’
5. ‘Liar’
6. ‘It Takes Balls’
7. ‘The Gambler, Dubya’—- ‘You gotta know when to hold them and when to fold them.’
8. ‘The Gambler, Toby Keith’
9. ‘Ruby’—– ‘It wasn’t me who started that old crazy Vietnam War. Whoops! Insert Iraq War.’
10. ‘Whoops, I Did It Again.’ Sorry, Britney, I know it’s not a country song, but my country song expertise is running out of steam.
I HOPE TOBY KEITH’S COUNTRY CAREER RUNS OUT OF STEAM, TOO.
I hope country music fans boycott Toby Keith like they boycotted the Dixie Chicks.
John
January 26th, 2007 at 5:50 pmBush: Now where is that boot? It’s not under the bed, nor under the table, nor in the closet. It’s not here, or over there. Oh, now I know, I left it up Toby’s A##
January 26th, 2007 at 5:50 pmHe was for a boot up his own ass, before he was against it.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:50 pmHe is a Ford truck man, after all….
January 26th, 2007 at 5:51 pmIn Toby’s defense, his song came out as we were going into Afghanistan, which was justified since they wouldn’t turn over our attackers. He was just being jingoistic. I didn’t think there was anything wrong about it.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:51 pmI see Judd is leaving. No big loss as I can see. And good riddance while I am at it.
I am going to miss all of the ” underlings ” around here yelling ” Judd Help! I am spineless and defenseless and they are talking mean to me. Please make them stop! I am so psychologically damaged and unbalanced that this poster is really getting under my skin! ”
Please make them stop! I have no other recourse against true debaters and patriots other than to fold my tent and run to you for some kind of strange assistance that I never recieve by the way.
You democrats are all mental midgets.
Bwahahahaha!!
January 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmTo those with the “revisionist history†comments, sorry but you’re off the mark here.
Really?
January 26th, 2007 at 5:54 pmI for one cannot wait for Hilary’s fundraiser with special guest Toby Keith singing all his hits. Oh ya.
January 26th, 2007 at 5:56 pmdoes this mean we can burn and bulldoze Toby Keith CDs now?
can we call up country radio stations and demand they ban his songs?
January 26th, 2007 at 5:56 pmOh good Lord. Why does this feel like 2003 all over again? Can’t we talk about something IMPORTANT?!
January 26th, 2007 at 5:58 pmHey, Dennis Miller… do you really want to be the last right-wing Hollywood has-been on the Bush bandwagon?
January 26th, 2007 at 6:01 pmPoor Joanie, no one told her that 1-800-GOARMY desperately needs female bedwetting chickenhawk IED-catchers too.
‘Cause while everyone here may be hate America too much to fight, she’s certainly not one of those Saddam lovers. And all people do is laugh at her when she tries to explain why she’s not over there.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:03 pmToby Keith is an opportunistic imbecile.
There was no need for him to write a song about the war, and to trash the Chicks. Now he goes on interviews, doe-eyed, and claims to be surprised that so many Bush supporters claim him as one of their own.
But then he wouldn’t be the first Bush supporter to jump ship; they were all in it for the money in one way or another. The only ones who gained diddly were the minions -now there is a moronic bunch.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:04 pmNo doubt President Bush will now take Keith’s smash hit “Video Soldier, Real Life Cracker” off his iPod playlist.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmHas he forgotten?
January 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmI think Toby Keith is a D-O-D-G-E man.
John
January 26th, 2007 at 6:05 pmPutting a boot up their asses was not a call for ‘war’. You see, Toby likes to have boots up his ass too, hes into S&M, of course. He was simply trying to love them with every inch of his cowboy boot.
Oooooor not. Just back peddling again.
Oh, I see Joanie Doe is simply reposting that comment on every post. So I’ll repeat:
Way to NOT stay on topic, just like your troll friends. You think you’re hurting our feelings? Wrong.
Why are you even on here? Do you get off typing insulting messages on websites? It’s been said all too much, but what the hell… get a life! Are you ever able to have any kind of real discourse?
If you come to these boards, I expect you to write something with substance, something explaining your side of the current topic.
Stop loitering.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pmLying ass Toby Keith. He has Always been opposed to the war. YEAH RIGHT!! He probably had an erection during shock and awe.
Comment by buzzbomb
Sorry TK did support going after the Taliban and al Quada, but has never openly supported Iraq. Just the troops in Iraq.
His song “The Angry American” talks about kicking your ass if you attack us.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:12 pmi am just glad that toby has learned the difference between iraq and iran. as to his always opposing the war in the former i’m afraid that he’ll have to destroy all the tapes of him talking trash while entertaining our troops. but hey, always glad to welcome a convert however they got here! and just think what this says about the dwindling bush base… kewel!
January 26th, 2007 at 6:14 pmLet me get this straight. Toby Keith is a “life-long” Democrat but he supported President Bush. He supported President Bush but he was against the war. He was against the war but he supports our troops.
Mr. Keith is either an opportunist, a weathervane , needs his head examined or all three.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:16 pmIt’s sad that Keith has to reconstruct reality, but I’m glad he has seen the light. Everyone should.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:17 pmdum fuk
January 26th, 2007 at 6:20 pmBTW, as TK is from my home state (I am proud as hell to say), I can tell you that he is an Oklahoma Democrat. They are a pretty conservative. They are all for small government, immigration reform, troop support, lower taxes, and putting The US first. And since they are the buckle of the “Bible Belt”, they are big on God/religion. They tend to elect Democrat Governors and vote for Republican Presidents.
Basically, an Oklahoma Democrat is a moderate Republican.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:23 pmCan anyone provide one source that shows TK supporting the war in Iraq? There is a lot of non-linked bomb throwing going on.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:27 pmConservative Democrat?
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Toby_Keith.php
January 26th, 2007 at 6:31 pmwho is this person? they loved it before they hated it?
January 26th, 2007 at 6:32 pm0=0
Throw open the curtains, let the sunshine in, and watch the cockroaches scurry.
January 26th, 2007 at 6:34 pmBasically, an Oklahoma Democrat is a moderate Republican.
Comment by hacker bob @ 6:23 pm
between 1994 &2000, i spent 20 long years in oklahoma. never in my life, anywhere i ever lived (12 states and three countries on 3 continents) have i ever encountered so many narrow-minded, mean-spirited, xenophobic, theocratic dimwits. oklahoma? home of tom coburn and jim inhofe: no more need be said. no oklahoman is a moderate anything: fascists top to bottom. where ELSE could JC Watts have won election?
January 26th, 2007 at 6:40 pmjeezis…
Hay hacker bob, just a short note….I realy don’t give a rat’s ass what you or any one else think’s about TK…I’ve been watching all this good old boy bull shit for year’s….It’s money honey…They blow with what ever way the wind is shifting…..Just don’t try and confuse me with your fact’s, when my fact’s say and TK past performance show diffrent…..He used his short term power to attack the Dixie Chick’s when the country thought bull shit bush was some one to have a beer with and before every one guessed bush is totaly insane…Now the country has shifted to where I have been all along and we say B.S….get on another band wagon…A turn coat has to prove them selves forever before I will believe them….Blessings
January 26th, 2007 at 6:43 pmthat Joanie Doe, a real churchgoer that one
January 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pm2. – after hearing his shit, my guess is he’s never heard of country music either.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:06 pmthat’s it-the terrorists just won
January 26th, 2007 at 7:19 pmhttp://music.yahoo.com/read/news/12061704
“I was raised southern Democrat, and my dad and granddad would roll over in their graves if they knew I voted Republican. My dad used to say, ‘We don’t have enough money to be Republicans.’ Well, I do have enough.”
Money is what this asshole cares about. That, and faux patriotism. Shut up and don’t sing, moran.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:22 pmHey Joanie Doe (a.k.a: Rachel):
I’ll bet you want boots up someone’s ass – being a boot licker, and all.
Hacker Bob:
So, someone you like, or someone who has something in common with you, regardless of their politics, is actually a Republican? Hmmm…disingenuous, at best. Nice try.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:25 pmAgain congratulations in your new position and in your unbiased moderation of these boards.
Comment by Joanie Doe — January 26, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
i repeat: I WISH…
(last time)
January 26th, 2007 at 7:26 pmHacker Bob, a couple of years ago, I heard TK with Al Franken after they had both gone over to Iraq to entertain the troops. On Franken’s show, TK said he was a proud supporter of the war and President Bush, but he liked Franken anyway because Franken went over there with him. I’m sure there’s a transcript somewhere, but the bottom line is that Sharon Cox is right — TK is just getting on a bandwagon here. As far as I’m concerned, he’s still a big blowhard.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:30 pm#60. fruity mcboob. you have my vote for best moniker on the site. fruity mcboob. nice.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:35 pmComment by konopelli
ummm,1994 to 2000 is only 6 years, not 20
January 26th, 2007 at 7:36 pmBob, I think I can explain. I’ve also been to Oklahoma and 1 year feels like close to 3 years there. And, Bob, I want to apologize for being too hard on you earlier. I’ve been reading your posts and I think I may have gotten you mixed up with another poster. You seem like a reasonable person. My apologies.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:41 pmbluedog49,
I agree with you about time standing still in Oklahoma. After being out of there for 7 years, I went back as a Recruiter (before 9/11). That 3 year duty felt like 9.
As for the other part of you post: If that was intended for me, I am the one and only hacker bob! And yes, sometimes I am unreasonable. But thank you. You make me think outside of the rhetoric.
January 26th, 2007 at 7:52 pmHere s a nice tune I wrote. I hope you enjoy.
The Ballad of a Modern Day Democrat-
I`m a double fisted drinker with a big butt and a stinker
I`m a crat…a democrat.
When the goin gets too ruff well thats when I say enough
I`m a crat…a democrat.
People tell I`m gay by the name on my hairspray
I`m a crat…a democrat.
I will kill a baby without so much as a maybe
I`m a crat…a democrat.
I am for Osama even if his names Obama
I`m a crat…a democrat
I am dark and dank and my hero is Barney Frank
I`m a crat…a democrat
Theres got to be a reason for the changes in the seasons
I`m a crat…a democrat
Sheehan is a zero even though she is my hero
January 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pmI`m a crat…a democrat
Interesting that in the Newsday story, Keith says that he “suspects Fox News merely panders to the right to boost ratings”.
I suspect that Keith pandered to the right to sell CDs.
January 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pmToby Keith is against the war, but he supports Bush.
January 26th, 2007 at 9:16 pmToby Keith sings and writes to appeal to rednecks and Bushies, but he’s really a Democrat.
Toby Keith won’t even mention the name of a singer who spoke against Bush even as Keith spoke of supporting Bush.
Toby Keith is an opportunist who now sees that the tide is turning and he is rewriting history.
I suspect that Toby this has little to do with Toby’s real feelings about the war, and a whole lot to do with his commercial ass hanging out there. It is likely that Toby will take it in the wallet now that the political winds have changed. So, be sure to make Toby feel it where it hurts…
1. Boycott all Toby Keith-themed restaurants
2. Boycott all Ford trucks until they remove Toby as their spokesperson.
January 26th, 2007 at 9:21 pm72- Maybe thats why Ford lost billions of dollars last year. Oh, but I thought the economy was so great according to the chimp in charge.
January 26th, 2007 at 9:49 pmSo, the songs were about being patriotic and supporting the troops.
January 26th, 2007 at 9:50 pmSort of like beer hall songs in 1930’s Germany? Real patriots oppose wars of agression by budding war criminals. Real patriots support the troops by opposing using them as sitting ducks in a war of choice by mamma’s boys whose efforts as young men went into ducking the fight of their era. The boy Toby could have been a man in showing the country crowd, with a song or two, that resisting an illegal war waged by your President, to the detriment of your country and its armed forces, is closer to a real love of one’s country than the meaningless and lame act of wrapping yourself in the flag. Why isn’t he fighting alongside the soldiers instead of singing before them?
Comment by stunted
The one point you miss:
THE SONGS WERE NOT ABOUT IRAQ!
January 26th, 2007 at 9:56 pmI’m still pissed about Toby trash-talking the Dixie Chicks.
All Natalie said was, “We’re ashamed he’s from Texas.”
She didn’t say anything bad about Bush.
She didn’t say anything bad about America.
She didn’t say anything bad about the troops.
She didn’t say anything at all about war (though it was implied).
For this, you’d think by the overreaction that she went over to Iraq and sat on Saddam’s lap or something.
Bush is always saying, “History will judge me many years from now.”
When History does judge, I’m willing to bet that Natalie’s line about shame will be remembered, while nobody will remember a single thing that G.W. Bush ever said, unless it’s one of his “Bushisms.”
A lot of it lands squarely on the head of Bush, with his stupid “you’re either for us or against us” shallowness of thought. Even Gates is on that bandwagon, saying that Congress’ questioning of the escalation “may embolden the enemy.”
I’m ashamed that Bush is from Texas (though her really isn’t, he’s just a drugstore cowboy, and a bad one at that). I can say that, being from Texas.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:00 pmI bet Toby is setting himself him for another profitable song only this time it will be against the war.
What a hypocrite.
The Dixie Chicks have twice the balls than this little man.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:01 pmI’m just waiting for Tobey to issue a public apology to natalie Maines and the Dixie Chicks. That would be the right and honorable thing to do at this point in time.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:14 pmI just think that Tobey should make a sincere public apology to Natalie Maines and the Dixie Chicks for ‘piling on’ in 2003. Natalie was right about Bush. we all knoe that now.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:17 pmToby’s a dumbass as well as being a liar. Toby the Shiites are the main winners in this debacle. Bush can order a few Iranians killed or captured in Iraq; or in Iran for that matter. He might even get crazy enough to bomb certain sites. But if he does we will reap thed whirlwind in the middle east. I hope he is just like you at this point: all conversation.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:27 pmSo Toby essentially used 9/11 to sell records just like Bush used it to sell Iraq? How cute.
January 26th, 2007 at 10:34 pmDoes TP have nothing better to report on?
Jeez. It’s not like it’s a slow news day.
Let’s see – tens of thousands are descending on Wash DC tomorrow to protest the war
That would be more interesting than some freakin redneck ahole who did what every pr hound does, use anyone you can to get free publicity.
Come on TP
January 26th, 2007 at 11:10 pmTo my knowledge, Toby Keith was an underaverage Country singer who was best known for appearing in those silly 1-800 Collect commmercials with Terry Bradshaw.
Then, when Natalie Maines told the truth and spoke her heart and soul out, that’s when Toby found a way to make a quick buck: Trash the Dixie Chicks and record a song about shamelessly bombing a country into submission, regardless of how many innocent men women and children are hurt, maimed, imprisoned and worse, killed. From that moment he became a corporate, government supported, so-called “outlaw” who was actually just a frustrated, dumbass redneck who never could prove that he was on a upper echelon with the Chicks, Cash, Patsy, Waylon, Merle, Dolly, Loretta, Emmylou or Gram.
Now that the faux outlaw image is now longer in favor with millions of Americans, now that joker thinks he can easily jump on the bandwagon just so he can get a bit of the Dixie Chicks’ fan base.
Toby, stick with the 1-800 commercials. You’re more suited for them and leave the real country music to the Chicks.
BTW: Watch “Heroes” It’s opposite “24″ and it stars Natalie Maines’ husband, Adrian Pasdar. It’s already beaten “24″ in viewership so far this week.
January 26th, 2007 at 11:30 pmxenon-Your comment is right on target. Whether or not Keith actually sang about Iraq is irrelevant. His actions clearly supported this administration’s actions; therefore, he was a war supporter. His political donations appear to be 100% Republican; and he appeared at events with Bush while Bush was trashing anyone who disagreed with him on Iraq. Furthermore, while some Democrats did support the war, singing meanspirited, jingoistic songs about bullying desperately poor countries who pose no threat to us is not exactly a cornerstone of the Democratic party. So, yeah, looking at Keith’s actions over these past few years, (including his charming quote that he now had enough money to be a Republican), an objective observer would be hardpressed to figure out just what small corner of the Democratic platform Keith empathizes with.
January 26th, 2007 at 11:40 pmwhile some Democrats did support the war, singing meanspirited, jingoistic songs about bullying desperately poor countries who pose no threat to us is not exactly a cornerstone of the Democratic party. So, yeah, looking at Keith’s actions over these past few years, (including his charming quote that he now had enough money to be a Republican), an objective observer would be hardpressed to figure out just what small corner of the Democratic platform Keith empathizes with
Uh. I think you’re describing Hilary Clinton’s support of the Israeli attack on Lebanon. Or maybe you’re describing Lieberman’s support of Bush policies. Or maybe you’re describing the bluedog Democrats.
Gee maybe it’s not such a small corner after all.
January 26th, 2007 at 11:50 pmDear Hacker Bob,
January 27th, 2007 at 12:12 amI don’t see anywhere that I suggested THE SONGS WERE ABOUT IRAQ. It seems THEY WERE ABOUT WHIPPING UP LAME-BRAINED, DIME-STORE PATRIOTISM to the froth that has always been a screen that cowards and strutters hide behind. What was the point of recording the songs?
Who cares about Toby Keith? He’s just a money-grubbing opportunist, who probably has a new song coming out soon.
January 27th, 2007 at 1:04 amThe one point you miss:
THE SONGS WERE NOT ABOUT IRAQ!
Comment by hacker bob
No, they were about cashing in on jingoistic hysteria.
As a fellow escapee from Oklahoma, I can attest that there’s a huge market there for such feel-good tripe. The only good artists to come from Oklahoma are Woody Guthrie, Leon Russell, J.J. Cale and on a good day, Roy Clarke. The rest are shallow, derivative, with no talent for rhythym or rhyme; perfect for those Okies too drunk to mouthe anything more than a four-word-chorus.
January 27th, 2007 at 1:41 amToby Keith, you redneck fraud. Siddown and SHUT UP!
(or I’ll put a boot in yer ass. “It’s the ‘Merican way!”
January 27th, 2007 at 1:59 amSo. Joanie Doe is into fisting? I knew they called them CONTURDS for a reason…………
January 27th, 2007 at 2:07 am““And I’ll be there every time. If you, if they need me to respond, I’ll be that guy because I’m not gonna lay down. And I’m not gonna shut up.†”
left out: “And I’m sure as hell not going to serve. They don’t pay those guys shit -I couldn’t afford a mustang car, much less a hundred horses on my ranch. Let the dumb hicks who buy my shit serve. Maybe I’ll sing a song about them.”
January 27th, 2007 at 3:23 amTo all TP women. Trannies not included.
Liberated But Alone…
Okay, so you burned your bras and now you are liberated. Yes, you’ve gained many freedoms that were previously not acceptable for women.
You can ask a man for a date and even be the one who proposes if you decide to do so.
You can pursue your own careers and many of you have proven that you are quite capable of leading as well as following.
You can drink beer straight from the bottle, go to male stripper shows, smoke cigars, and use any choice cuss word that you want; whereever you want.
You are indeed liberated.
You’ve worked hard for it, you’ve earned it, and no one should deny you what countless generations of your gender have struggled and sacrificed to accomplish.
However, none of this makes you necessarily attractive, desired, wanted, or pursued.
In fact, should you be one of those women who is caught up in the current trend to act and be “bitchy,” doing so actually makes you very unattractive in the eyes of most men. Yes, you say that you can live without men who will not readily accept you should you have a bitchy attitude? Fine. Just realize that you’ve narrowed the field of men down to a very small minority. Furthermore, any willingness on their part to give in to a woman who feigns equality when really exercising control may be more out of their desparation than any kind of true acceptance.
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Independent is Good, But…
Before you dismiss the rest of this article, please read on. It could very well be that the point being made here will help any female reader gain some needed insight into the workings of the male mind and visa-versa.
You see, few males would ever demean a woman who has done well in her chosen career. Most of us enjoy a gal with some spunk.
One of this writer’s favorite movie scenes is from “Overboard,” starring Goldie Hawne and Kirk Russell. Her character joins him for a beer at a redneck bar. When she reaches for her drink, Russell’s character states that, “I’ve always been attracted to women who drink their beer straight from the bottle.” The point is that we men enjoy our women in all shapes and sizes and with all of your liberties as well, but we are absolutely turned off and disgusted when you feel that you can only relate to us with an “attitude.”
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Understand How Men See You…
Much like the gay male who overdoes his femininity with flamboyance, we view a female who is overly aggressive, manipulative, demeaning, and indignate in much the same way. There will never be any substitute for the expression true humanity, whether it is demonstrated by a man or a woman. Nothing is more attractive to a male than a liberated woman with a balanced attitude that is genuine and considerate.
I happen to work in an environment filled with young adults. Not only that, but I have two grown sons. If overly aggressive women could but hear the disgust for them as these young fellows talk, they would have to reconsider their self-deluded arrogance that demands they portray themselves as bitchy women. Except for whimps, there are few real men who really want anything to do with women who are self-gradiozed and demeaning toward men.
These are the same women who revel in denigrating men for their supposed cluelessness. In truth, this issue has less to do with any difference between the sexes and much more to do with whether or not one is going to be a decent human being.
I’ve had the experience of dating a woman who, although she was physically gorgeous, portrayed a superior attitude in all that she said and did. Her response to our four dates together resulted in an e-mail message stating that I was very “basic and simple” and that she was really looking for her “equal.” Even if I am basic and simple, the point is that she has obviously taken this attitude toward all men because that was most of the content of our conversations–her thirteen years of dating one “jerk” after another. However, I do think that she deserves her “equal.” After all, bitchy guys do exist as well.
Like my four-date-nightmare, there are too many women who complain about men not being romantic. The truth is that we guys are very capable of being romantic. It’s just that a woman with a self-centered attitude isn’t worth the effort on our part. Oh, we’ll go to bed with her as long as we can tolerate her barbs, griping, and whining but don’t think for one minute that we are going to ever get down on one knee and ask if she would like to wear our engagement ring.
No, that request will be saved for a truly liberated woman–the one who is liberated from herself.
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January 27th, 2007 at 3:27 amAggressiveness vs. Attraction…
In a perfect world, liberated women would be less aggressive and good men would be much more understanding regarding how to treat a woman more as a person than prey. Those couples who are enjoying a truly mutually fulfilling relationship are doing so because they have worked at developing balance, understanding each other, and relearning the simple truth that all of us need to be treated as valued human beings if we are to love truly and feel genuinely loved in return.
The world isn’t perfect but, then again, each of us has the ability to readjust our thinking so that we can bring both maturity and understanding to our own primary relationships.
Either that or we’ll just have to adapt to being unhappy and very much alone.
May every woman experience nothing but the right to be free in every way and do well in whatever they attempt to do with no man-made obstacles to have to confront along the way. That is your right and that is what your fore-mothers worked so hard to accomplish for you.
All I am saying here is that some of you are obviously making the mistake of becoming exactly what you have historically hated in men.
Don’t be a bitch and if you are one, don’t blame it on men. Take responsibility for yourselves and be our friends, companions, counterparts, equals, lovers, and partners.
Would actually be kind of nice if Kieth would make a public apology to the Chicks or maybe just appear with them and sing a song. Show America that country really is made up of people with brains and backbone, not Faux news style fluff and cowshit.
Is America starting to wake from its slumber and come back home? Gestures like this would help.
January 27th, 2007 at 3:40 amAs a fellow escapee from Oklahoma, I can attest that there’s a huge market there for such feel-good tripe. The only good artists to come from Oklahoma are Woody Guthrie, Leon Russell, J.J. Cale and on a good day, Roy Clarke. The rest are shallow, derivative, with no talent for rhythym or rhyme; perfect for those Okies too drunk to mouthe anything more than a four-word-chorus.
Comment by Barfly
Barfly, (By the way, your name says alot about you!) I know us Oklahomans have no talent. Just look at the country charts. Toby Keith is always at the top. Besides this, we also have the no-talent works of Garth Brooks, Reba McIntire and Tanya Tucker, to name a few. I suppose the rest of the country are too ignorant to know what good music is, too? Now, now, don’t get too personal, you show your ignorance with your generalizations.
January 27th, 2007 at 9:52 amSo Toby essentially used 9/11 to sell records just like Bush used it to sell Iraq? How cute.
Comment by Xenon
And Michael Fat-Ass Moore used 9/11 to sell his lies too? How Cute,
Real patriots support the troops by opposing using them as sitting ducks in a war of choice by mamma’s boys whose efforts as young men went into ducking the fight of their era.
Comment by Stunted
War of choice. Was going after al Quada a way or choice? Hell no, they attacked US.
To my knowledge, Toby Keith was an underaverage Country singer who was best known for appearing in those silly 1-800 Collect commmercials with Terry Bradshaw.
Remember that this “underaverage Country singer” has won one or two awards:
06 American Music Awards Favorite Male Artist
2006 BMI Song of the Year
2006 BMI Songwriter of the Year
2005 CMA Music Video of the Year
2005 CMT Music Awards Hottest Video of the Year
2004 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Video Collaboration of the Year
2004 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Video Director of the Year
2004 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Video of the Year
2003 Academy of Country Music Album of the Year
2003 Academy of Country Music Entertainer of the Year
2003 Academy of Country Music Top Male Vocalist
2003 Academy of Country Music Video of the Year
2003 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Cocky Video of the Year
2003 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Male Video of the Year
2003 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards Video of the Year
2002 CMT Flameworthy Video Music Awards “LOL” (Laugh Out Loud) Video of the Year
2001 CMA Male Vocalist of the Year
You are right. Pretty underaverage. And Bradshaw was an underaverage football player.
Would actually be kind of nice if Kieth would make a public apology to the Chicks or maybe just appear with them and sing a song.
Comment by tb
Why does he owe ANYONE an apology? He thought that what the did in London was disrespectful. Then they went on the assault. They even talked about how violent his music was, then recorded a song about killing a guy named Earl. Talk about Hypocrites!
He has nothing to apologize for.
He is a Democrat AND a patriot. Is there something wrong with that?
January 27th, 2007 at 10:07 amI would like to put a double fisted PAIR of boots up you progressives asses for supporting terrorists.
Not just one.
Both.
Comment by Joanie Doe — January 26, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
What an appropriate name for a Repug – “Joanie Doe” = “Anonymous Coward”
January 27th, 2007 at 10:18 amIm sorry, but the people on this message board are stupid. Not one of you picked on the fact that he’s so clueless that he said the kurds would end up in control. That is the absolute most impossible outcome of the Iraq civil war. Calling people rednecks lost its fun like 3 years into this presidency. Debate substantive issues. Name calling on message boards is so 7th grade.
January 27th, 2007 at 10:23 amIf Toby Keith supported the fight in Afghanistan with his jingoistic country crapola, fine. But where was he when The Decider decided to go to Iraq?
Bottom line: TK has waited to see where the winning side is, then he goes there. When his position was less than overwhelmingly popular, he shut his trap and let people have the impression he was on their side.
This, friends, is cowardice worthy of the Medal of Freedom.
January 27th, 2007 at 11:04 amnullboy 1
To answer your question:
January 27th, 2007 at 11:19 am“When the Iraq war started, I was a little mad because we didn’t finish what we started in Afghanistan,” he said. “Our troops had to move on into Iraq. Our government asked them to go do it for whatever reason. We won’t know for probably 20 or 30 years whether it was the right thing to do or not.”
-Toby Keith
Does Toby know who the Kurds are?
January 27th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe Chix said it best, “FYTK” and I agree wholeheartedly.
January 27th, 2007 at 11:41 amI remember Al Frankin saying something about being in Iraq with Keith during on of the troop intertainment tours. He said something like Keith had written the song about Afganistan and Osama not Iraq and that he wasn’t really for going into Iraq. Although that was about the only place I heard that side of the story. Me thinks tony didn’t want to piss off his redneck fans and the money he gets from them.
January 27th, 2007 at 12:36 pmThe Chix said it best, “FYTK†and I agree wholeheartedly.
Comment by Phillip
that is a great arguement for someone you disagree with.
If you can’t argue with facts, throw a profanity./sarcasm>
the Chix have about as much class as a Texas gutter slut.
January 27th, 2007 at 1:12 pmThe hottest new fashion for rednecks this year — flip-flops.
January 27th, 2007 at 1:37 pmI would like to put a double fisted PAIR of boots up you progressives asses for supporting terrorists.
Not just one.
Both.
Comment by Joanie Doe — January 26, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Bring ‘em on!
January 27th, 2007 at 2:22 pmBoy, you right-wingers sure are obsessed with putting things up people’s asses.
Comment by Jeremy Henderson — January 26, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
And shoving things down someone’s throat…
January 27th, 2007 at 2:24 pmRats leaving the sinking ship. It was ever thus. Get used to the words, President Pelosi. It’s only a matter of months before a whole cadre of republicans march down Pennsylvania Avenue and tell President Cheney, er, Bush, that the jig is up.
January 27th, 2007 at 3:20 pm“. He proclaimed himelf then as being a lifelong Democrat and that his songs were about being patriotic and supportive of the men and women in the armed forces.”
Interesting, he’s a Democrat who only contributes to Republicans:
http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Toby_Keith.php
January 27th, 2007 at 3:22 pmYou are right. Pretty underaverage. And Bradshaw was an underaverage football player.
You’ll notice that TK only received the attention you so kindly pasted for us AFTER he wrote that shitty propaganda song. Go read yourself some wiki and be enlightened.
January 27th, 2007 at 4:29 pmwow, you cherry-pick moderate your blog? suuuper lame. later.
January 27th, 2007 at 4:41 pmYou’ll notice that TK only received the attention you so kindly pasted for us AFTER he wrote that shitty propaganda song. Go read yourself some wiki and be enlightened.
Comment by db
TK has been around for quite a while. Well before that one song. He is no “one hit wonder”.
And the song was quite good, IMO.
January 27th, 2007 at 5:19 pmHey, this from a native Okie: U got to bring it with you when u come.
That said, I can’t stand TK. He kissed up too much to the Bushies and rednecks. Did it for the money.
He was definitely an a**hole to Natalie Maines. No class. Now he’s losing money. Good. He’s got enough.
January 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pmF. Y. Toby, you weasel faced liar.
January 28th, 2007 at 1:06 amAnd once again he proves he knows nothing about Iraq.
The Kurds will end up with it all?
You’re kidding, right?
January 28th, 2007 at 1:11 amHe has said the same thing since the day he first sang the song. If anyone had cared to actually want to know, they could have. But, information is not the strong suit of liberalism. Conspiracies and rumors are!
January 28th, 2007 at 1:46 amToby Keith never said that he supported the war in Iraq, and this in fact isn’t the first time he’s said that he opposes it. Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue (the song in which he say’s he’ll “put a boot in your ass, it’s the American way”) was written in response to 9/11 and the totally justified war in Afghanistan. You guys should get your facts straight before saying that this is revisionist history.
January 28th, 2007 at 11:49 amToby Keith is just letting us know that he has a mind of his own and follows his heart. What is wrong with supporting our troops, but not the War? He’s just stating his opinion on this issue and doesn’t deserve to be attacked for doing so. I’m a Republican, but also a staunch Toby Keith fan. He could be a one eyed giant purple people eater and I’d still support his music. Come’on people, put things in perspective here!!!!!
January 28th, 2007 at 12:50 pmMr. Keith certainly gave the impression he supported the war in Iraq and certainly never challenged anyone who assumed that was his position. His treatment of the Dixie Chicks was impliicit support of a president who led us into an unnecessary war in Iraq. Why was he afraid to speak against the war then but isn’t now? I’m just wondering…
January 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmStuck in OK, hate the state, hate the people, hate the music. I can forgive TK for everything but one: being a goddamn Sooner fan. 365, 24/7 hate babe! GO POKES!
January 28th, 2007 at 4:18 pmMy in-laws live in Okla . . .
Why is doggy style the favorite sex position of OU fans?
So they can both watch the big game!!!
January 29th, 2007 at 8:39 amLook, I am one of the biggest bleeding heart liberals around but I decided a long time ago to try to separate my politics from my musical listening. Don’t get me wrong — I will buy something to SUPPORT a cause, such as the latest Sting/Green Day anti-Iraq war video or the Dixie Chicks video/song in response to their mistreatment by the Right Wing, but I believe that if we treat Conservative singers badly for their political ideas, we are setting a bad example. Artists should be free to express their political opinions — whatever they may be, as long as the performer isn’t hurting anyone. That is what being a liberal is about. Leave it to the mental midgets wing-nuts to try to be the “Thought Police.” I hate it when the Right tries to hurt progressive artists, don’t you? Everyone should have the freedom and the ability to express themselves and make a living, even when they are jackasses.
January 29th, 2007 at 12:26 pmOops. U2 and Green Day collaborated on the great anti-Iraq war song, “The Saints Are Coming,” It also ties in how Bush screwed up with Hurricane Katrina to. It is great. Sorry for the mix-up.
January 29th, 2007 at 12:51 pmWhat an amazing collection of ignorant morons posting on here. Not one of you knows a thing about Toby Keith or what he thinks or stands for. But, why am I surprised? You’re liberals, and that’s what you do!
January 29th, 2007 at 11:38 pmI’m not a country video fan.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:53 pmWho is this TK?
I can’t believe you people have nothing else to discus than a multi-million dollar country singer. He didn’t get that way because ‘people don’t like his music’. I’m a democrat who voted for Bush also, who’s regreted it ever since but what choice did we have-Kerry, please! Maybe you should remember it was Kerry who couldn’t get his story straight which forced me to vote for Bush-at least he was consistant.
It’s been a long time since I’ve seen talent like Toby’s. He can sing any song and make everybody feel good who is listening. At least he has the talent to make a woman laugh and not take himself seriously like the rest of you. And by the way, Natalie started it. You’d think after the Bush episode, she’d learn to keep ‘her’ ignorant mouth shut. I supported her then, but you can forget me ever waisting another dollar on a Dixie Chicks CD. Sorry girls, you loose! When are you going to learn-you’re NOT the big dogs you think you are. Why don’t you just play your music and look pretty. No one asked you for your opinion. YOU, not Toby make country music look ignorant!
February 6th, 2007 at 3:28 pmTK against the war? You gotta be freakin’ kiddin’ me! Like Rusty Austin put it, the rat is leaving the sinking ship! Shame on you, TK, at least most of the rednecks their asses you’ve been kissing, have the balls to stick with their twisted “pro-war” attitude :( I may like a couple of your songs, but this new ’statement’ of yours make me dislike you more as a person!
February 6th, 2007 at 4:14 pmGeez, don’t people have better things to do then hash over the same topic day after day?
February 7th, 2007 at 4:40 amToby Keith can come shake his badonkadonk at my honky tonk.
February 7th, 2007 at 9:27 amWar of choice. Was going after al Quada a way or choice? Hell no, they attacked US.
Umm no that is factually incorrect. There is absolutely no hard evidence to be found anywhere that al Qaeda was behind the attacks on 9/11 and in fact there is no credible evidence anywhere that the 19 hijackers existed at all. 9-11 was an inside job. Period.
He is a Democrat AND a patriot. Is there something wrong with that?
And once again no. He contributed $4000 to the RNC as well as played at several conventions. Patriot sure we’re all patriots; but a REAL patriot stands for truth no matter how hard that truth might be and the current administration absolutely despises telling the truth therefore not a single member of this admin is a patriot.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:42 pmHi Alison and welcome to the TSTL club, enjoy your stay.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:44 pmI admit it, I have succumbed to the intoxication of posting on this board. It is against my better judgement, but I got sucked in. I like the Dixie Chicks music, or some of it. I like Toby Keith, or as least some of it. I also like Michael Buble, the Eagles, Billy Joel, and James Taylor. I don’t like what the DC’s said. I have not purchased any of their music. It is my choice. If they ran for president I would wait to see what they had to say first and then decide. My point, if I have one is, it’s my decision. As it is others.
War is sometimes inevitable. Talking can not deter some govenments behavior. Someone on this board has suggested that War is not the human and civil thing to do, you are correct. It is not, but that said, I do not believe for one minute that people could have talked their way out of a concentration camp. We needed to do what we did. I do not like killing either, liberals seem to think that we enjoy it. Do they enjoy their position on abortion and the killing of children unborn. I would like to get past the point where we disagree, and on to the part where we can work together.
I’m not sure that with the anger that is being thrown about if any of that can be done. We all have a long way to go. So, Dixie Chicks and Toby Keith aside, maybe we can cool the rhetoric. Agree to disagree? I know it’s a forum for discussion, but all I see is a forum for frustrated Liberals and Conservatives alike. All with the cutest phrase and most hip come-back. I don’t have one. I just wanted to talk freely and express my opinion, whether you agree or disagree, that’s not the point, the point is the freedom to do the talking. I appreciate that.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:57 pmLet me tell all of you something first and foremost Republican Demacrat all the same shit. The Bottom line we have people here at were Americans people who live in our great country and we got that way because we stand together in the face of adversity whether this war is wrong or not we are at war and we can’t just leave we made a commitment and thats that to all you yellow run scared hiding cowards you do not represent America. Toby Kieth Made a commitment for Our Soldiers DYING ON THE FRONT LINES He made a commitment to America and that is what he sings about so simple minded idiots….Maybe if you quit running your mouth and make aq stand for what we are doing we could finish this dam war and move on.
February 16th, 2007 at 11:08 amObviously none of you have brothers or sisters, if you did you would no that if your brother gets in a fight you will defend him first be him right or wrong then ask questions later. We have our brothers and sisters in fight we need to defend them first then once its over and the are safe thats when we can play the blame game and do all the pointing of fingers that you like
February 16th, 2007 at 11:16 amListen To AMERICAN SOLDIER BY TOBY KIETH TIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT
February 16th, 2007 at 11:45 amOne more comment then I will Leave you simple minded folks to the tasks of bashing our government, our president, country music stars and whyatever else you can think of while you home safe and sound eating popcorn and what have you. Before you post a comment I want you to let this thought pass through your small brain while you are typing another one of your brothers or sisters is facing a challenge a danger a threat so that you don’t have to. before you condem our soldiers to death and keep them without the things they need to get home you write to one of them and tell them face to face we are fighting a lost cause and for that I am voting to not send you the help you need or tell them you know you are wo weak to defeat this enemy so go on come home and let the terriost have their way here but you just might have to giv up some of those liberties you are enjoying now thank god we are discussing the wrongs of a country star and not the beheading of another American right there in our own backyard.
February 16th, 2007 at 12:39 pmHave any of you been to Bagdad? I have and guess what so has Toby Kieth which is more than I can say for you baby killing liberals. We wear are support for our brothers and sisters right here on our sleeve you would rather build abortion clinics than to stand beside your own people when they are in a fight not only for their lives but for your life for your right to make a decision to kill more children
February 17th, 2007 at 12:38 amToby Keith is a moron. Period. No class, no brains. He will pander the the mindless neo-con, Christian right to make a buck.
The Dixie Chicks have:
More talent
Better songs
More Class
Courage of their convictions.
And for the military posts…. I served too. BFD. We have no business in Iraq.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:38 amIt’s great you all serve and follow orders as many of us did. However, there is no justification for being in Iraq. Period. Never was.
And opposing an insipid war in not the same thing as dissing our troops. Not even close.
u are the moron, it seems to that for serving in the forces you have no since of loyalty to you service members. It is the same thing to patrionize the war by doing so u patronize our soldiers u send a message that you are not willing to stand with them in heart in spirit or anything else in the trencehes I don’t need some pansy running around complaining about why we are here, we are here to do our job our job is why we serve no matter what the cost because I am an AMERICAN SOLDIER and its what we are called to do. and all those that oppose the warb NEWS FLASH its what we do I didn’t join so Icould look good in a BDU we are here to fight no matter what the cause when AMERICA call we stand at attention you are a disgrace to the uniform and in my unit we would have you busted to private digging holes. Dixie chicks wonder why they havent been here to put on a show for us….the don’t know the meaning of the word Patriot a patriot is even if you don’t believe in the cause u stand no matter the price..for country and all those we serve. So yes it is the same thing. For all of you that forgot 911 take a look at it again our president said we will not tolerate this attack be it from any of you terriosts anywhere, Iraq Afganhistan, Denmark, Poland, Japan, Korea, Iran or in our own back yard. Time to quit complaining Man up and get the job done.
February 20th, 2007 at 2:26 pmAm sick of you so called patriots not backing our country, like they say you either with us or against us, if thats the case grab a towel wrap it around your little head and take up arms with the taliban or whatever terriost organization you want because you clearly don’t belong toting an American Flag. Pull us out if you want but don’t come running to us when we send a message that the terriosts have won and that message spreads to all those that oppose the U.S that we can’t finish and they come like dogs to a wounded animal. Put down the peace pipes democrats quit worrying about how to kill babies and see we have a real threat here at our door. Or figure out how to build abortion clinics for terroists instead of babies. Do something useful for once instead of smoke weed get head in the oval office and steal things when your term is finished. Quit letting gays run through the streets and make a stand for your brothers and sisters fighting and dying for your coward self. Hiding behind a smoke screen oh please stop the war its so wrong dam that we at war and its about time we let the world know dam what you say we here and your little terriost groups can’t hide for much longer cuz we coming and we won’t stop until you get that message.
February 20th, 2007 at 2:43 pm