The putrid hate your words espouse are why the country has devolved into what it is today.

Look around you, America, and wake up. Conservatism is a failure.

I have read that when Bush was governor of Texas, he made it a point to find out which bills were likely to pass the then-Dem-controlled legislature and support them as if they were practically his ideas all along. That sounds opportunistic to me. As for Bush’s wealth, aside from being born into it with a veritable silver spoon in his mouth, most of what he “earned” later came through help from Daddy’s friends, as all the companies he set up tanked on their own. Cheney, by contrast, wasn’t born into wealth; almost all of his multi-millions come from the contacts–most notably his appointment as CEO of Halliburton– he made while in government service.
But, thank you, anyway, Paul, for taking the high road and not resorting to insults like so many of the conservative trolls here.

No, no, no -the real accumulation comes after they’ve left office not during their tenure. The US is not a banana republic…

I didn’t mean to insinuate that any American president pulls money out of the public treasury and into their pockets. Their time in the White House is a ground-laying period of sorts, when they generate all the circumstances that will help them, and their political allies i nthe future.

It is also a matter of personal, family prestige -maybe I made too much emphasis on the monetary aspect.

I believe if the President’s behavior in office has been criminal, the free press would ferret it out.

Well, I do believe it has been criminal: The invasion of Iraq is no small matter. I doubt, however, he would be guilty of petty theft -like shady land deals, or shaky construction contracts.

Don’t insult pigs. They’re intelligent animals who can be taught to use computers. They can also be good to eat; by contrast, Rush appears most unappetizing.

Au contraire, Pennsylvania Ave. is exactly the place you’d want to go.

You could appoint your cronies to key government positions in order to award juicy contracts to your other cronies, friends, and extended family. You could change laws -or ignore them- to benefit the same. You could even send the military to take over another country; guess who would get to rebuild it?

In other words, you would have financial as well as political power -all wrapped in one.

And when you leave office, you will be able to reap huge financial rewards through repayments for the favors you dispensed: Seats in many boards of directors, key executive positions, “consulting’ gigs; you name it.

C’mon Paul, it’s not as if I am breaking new ground here…

I understand conservatives all too well. Most in my extended family are very conservative, good churchgoers, and married family folk. No vices, no extra-marital funny business, no challenging authority -or not too much. But they think. If someone in position of authority says or does something that goes against what they’ve been taught since they were little, they stop and think. They are also emotionally mature enough to admit to an error. I disagree with most of their points of view but I respect them for that.

It is the mindless, blind Bush cult that has got the US in this horrible mess we are all now. You wouldn’t believe how many times I’ve tried to tell Bush supporters that Bush is no conservative, or he is conservative only in name, with no results (I am not sure how to label him, but something like crony-appointing, sound avise-ignoring, trigger happy, warmongering, oil thursty, reckless imperialist twerp might begin to describe him). People want to follow Bush because they attach certain personality traits to the label “conservative” in spite of his actions that show he is no social conservative but an opportunistic politician.

I guess my reply to you, in a nutshell, is: If you want to be a conservative, fine. I think you are wrong but it is your choice and your prerogative. Just don’t be a blind, mindless, personality cult follower. I think you are one of the few conservative visitors to this site to are honest enough to admit to misgivings in their support for Pres Bush. And I respect you for that.

At that point, I realize that I am dealing with someone rational, with a viewpoint that could change what I believe. I would be lying, if I didn’t admit, those times are unsettling – but therapeutic.

Comment by paul

My neighbor is a staunch conservative and we talk about a great many things without letting personal bias emote anger towards one another. From religion to physics we found out we had more in common than not. Politics is just one facet of a persons ideology and is not worth beating up each other over for some fat cat in D.C. =)

“I have posted my share of insightful things, but I am trying to be more respectful…”

insightful was the wrong word. I meant to say something like malicious. I should have heeded your post from last night about proofing before I hit the post button.

You democrats are all mental midgets.
Bwahahahaha!!
Comment by Joanie Doe

I’m trying to figure out what, in your post, you have said that is brilliant.

I am going to miss all of the ” underlings ” around here yelling ” Judd Help! I am spineless and defenseless and they are talking mean to me. Please make them stop! I am so psychologically damaged and unbalanced that this poster is really getting under my skin! ”

Please make them stop! I have no other recourse against true debaters and patriots other than to fold my tent and run to you for some kind of strange assistance that I never recieve by the way.

You democrats are all mental midgets.

Bwahahahaha!!

For many of us, patience ran out a long time ago. We are way past being polite at this point. I made the conscious decision not to lob insults at my opponents when I started posting here but I do it sometimes too: The vile, foul language and the hateful, immoral filth coming from the other side of the political spectrum is simply too much.

There is no low Bush supporters won’t stoop to in order to justify, defend their (mis)Leader. From torture, violation of the law, overt racism, and xenophobia to cronyism, corruption, and the prostitution of their own religion for financial, personal gain -it’s all ok if their (mis)Leader says it is.

Limbaugh is not just one of such supporters, he is leading the pack, carrying the flag. He is a sorry excuse of a human being and should be exposed as the ideological pimp that he is.