13% of Americans have never heard of global warming,
By on Jan 29th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
13% of Americans have never heard of global warming,
even though their country is the world’s top source of greenhouse gases, a 46-country survey showed on Monday. Some 57 percent of people around the world considered global warming a “very serious problem” and a further 34 percent rated it a “serious problem.” People in Latin America “were most worried while U.S. citizens were least concerned with just 42 percent rating global warming ‘very serious.’”
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Too busy watching ‘American Idol’, apparently…
January 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pmWhy do Americans have to be so f*cking stupid, and so proud of it, at the same time!?
January 29th, 2007 at 6:31 pmToo busy worrying about the minimal threat of boogeymen.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pmi was pleasantly surprised last week to see an AP story in my local newspaper, in my VERY red county of southern illinois, about the effects of global warming – GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE…
‘course, part of those 13% are residents… i’ve seen them around…
January 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pm…
You’re right, Trip. The survey should have had a question about who won “Survivor.” Or the first names of the idiots on “Dancing with the Stars.”
Idiot box, indeed. I’m so happy I canceled my cable.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:34 pmDefinitely the same ones who’d see Obama on a ballot and think Osama…
January 29th, 2007 at 6:36 pm“Global Warming” is a psychological operation, a “psyops”, to condition the public to believe that we are going to be in a lot of trouble in the near future if we don’t take steps “X,Y, & Z”, and do it quickly. Those “steps” are what the Illuminati want us to follow so they can further consolidate their control over our lives-and still make a ton of money in the process. (And bring us closer to the NWO.)
http://educate-yourself.org/lte/globalwarming13sep06.shtml
Currently, former vice president Al Gore is one of the leading baton twirlers in this parade, but you have a small army of propaganda peddlers out there who are working day and night to “sell” this ‘Inconvenient Truth’.
The “Global Warming” promotion campaign is very much in the same propaganda vein as the ‘peak oil’ campaign, formerly headed up by CIA family alumni Michael Ruppert (who has now fled the country apparently), and discussed at length on our ‘Peak Oil’ index page.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/peakoilindex.shtml
They keep on pounding at these propaganda themes in order to get you to SUBCONSCIOUSLY accept them as true. That’s why these lying jackals continuously employ words like “truth”, “true”, “honest”, “sincere”, etc., while they are lying through their teeth to you. Bush, Rice, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Gore, Clinton, etc., do it ALL the time; pathological liars, one and all, of course, but Tavistock-trained pathological liars.
Washington’s New World Order Weapons Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Change
January 29th, 2007 at 6:40 pm
This is evidence of the “dumbing down” of America!
January 29th, 2007 at 6:42 pmComment by johnny — January 29, 2007 @ 6:40 pm
Do you also think the Earth is flat?
January 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pmRent the DVD for “Idiocracy”. It’s a funny little movie about a regular guy who wakes up from a botched suspended animation experiment 500 years in the future when people and things have become very stupid.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:45 pmThe pathological liars who have reversed the contemporary definitions of all words into an Orwellian dual reality have contributed greatly to this ignorance on the part of Americans. It’s appalling to imagine that 13% have never heard of global warming and we are THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS NATIONWIDE to this devastating phenomena! As can be said about anything coming out of the WH these days….don’t believe a word of it! It’s all spin, lies, and Bush propaganda. Their days are numbered, thank goodness and american can begin to repair and restore it’s severely tarnished world image…hopefully….hopefully.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:45 pm#7,
January 29th, 2007 at 6:49 pmForce yourself to watch “Iconvenient Truth”
They show cool maps and graphs and pictures — maybe you’ll remain interested enough to learn something.
We’re the largest contributors of global warming CO2 because, unlike the rest of the world, we refuse to build new nuclear power plants to generate energy. Instead, we’re building coal, natural gas, and oil power plants. Very dirty. Lots of CO2.
I blame the environmentalists for global warming. They’ve stood in the way here of us building clean and safe nuclear energy.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:59 pmI blame the environmentalists for global warming. They’ve stood in the way here of us building clean and safe nuclear energy.
Comment by muckdog — January 29, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
It seems that the same 13% have never heard of Chernoble, Three-Mile-Island, or the high rate of autism in the states adjacent to the Nevada burial sites (think water cycle)….
January 29th, 2007 at 7:04 pmBut Ted Kennedy chooses to ban wind turbines off of Nantucket because it detracts from his yachting pleasure. Nantucket will be awash in 50 years if we do not invest in alternative energy. Same with Martha’s Vineyard and Kennebunkport.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:09 pmWaltTheMan,
There are wind farms in eastern Oregon, and I think they’re beautiful. We should do that in my area because we always have a nice wind going.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pmIt’s too bad more Americans don’t know what really happened at Chernoble. I’m guessing there would be a lot fewer people trying to make muckdog’s point if we knew what happened to the people in that part of the world.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:17 pm22% of Americans think Elvis is still alive
28% still support Bush
98% have never watched one of my short comedies.
It’s a crazy world.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:19 pmToo busy shoppin’ for the latest grill.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:23 pm22% of Americans think Elvis is still alive
28% still support Bush
98% have never watched one of my short comedies.
It’s a crazy world.
Comment by Jay Severin has a small pen1s — January 29, 2007 @ 7:19 pm
Thank God Jimi Hendrix is still alive.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:24 pmThe 13 percent who haven’t heard of “global warming” are half of GDumbya’s support base. The other half believe that the world is flat.
johnny belongs to both these subgroups, apparently.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:24 pmLol 13% do not know that this planet is a round sphere. They think it is flat and if you go too far out to sea you might fall off > lol.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:26 pmI did not hear one person mention that they would “do something” about this. Try activism as compared to just regurgitating cliches about TV or about how “dumb” America is.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:28 pmThere are people who think a photo would steal your soul. Still.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:29 pm13% believe that rain comes from outer space and God lives on a cloud overhead > lol.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:30 pmToo busy shoppin’ for the latest grill.
Comment by ForTruth
Nice…..
January 29th, 2007 at 7:31 pmThey haven’t heard of global warming because their brains are fried to a crisp.
Higher temperatures and human brains are a bad combination.
John
January 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pmSaddest thing is Bush himself is one of those 13% brain-dead Americans!
January 29th, 2007 at 7:33 pmI did not hear one person mention that they would “do something†about this. Try activism as compared to just regurgitating cliches about TV or about how “dumb†America is.
Comment by Neil Schimmenti
That isn’t that topic of the thread, is it?
Lighten up!
January 29th, 2007 at 7:34 pmNiel, I’m not trying to be argumentative with you, but what kind of activism do you think would begin to fix the problem of stupidity in America. The only one my wife and I have been able to figure out is getting out to school board meetings to try to prevent creationists from dumbing down science education. Any other suggestions?
January 29th, 2007 at 7:35 pm13% also represents Bush’s hard core rock bottom base. If Bush loses the super Greedy 15% wealthy GOPers, then he is left with the “Deliverance” brain fried 13% group.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:38 pm13% of Americans fall into the 26%ers.
So, half of the 26%ers have never heard of Global Climate Change while the other half haven’t heard of it.
January 29th, 2007 at 7:41 pm13% of Americans have never heard of global warming
These must be 80-90 yo somethings in nursing and retirement homes whom cannot see nor hear, therefore they do not get television. Bushco goons pencils them in as supporters whether they know it or not.
Either that or Bush and Co. keeps this 13% on ice in nursing homes nationwide for a national party emergency. Like when no one else will listen to nor speak to this administration anymore…
They wheel out their ” virtual dead ” emergency plan when the
January 29th, 2007 at 7:44 pm% s get at or below a predetermined warning level.
Why should Americans care about what happens to a bunch of Pinko Commies?
/sarcasm = off
January 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pmAll the village idiots in America belong to the 13% and Bush is the village idiot from Crawford, Texas!
January 29th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI’d swear, after reading the letters to the editor in our local paper, that the 13% live in the same county/town as I do. What is pathetic is that we are supposedly a democratic region of the state. Yet they have all remarked how wonderful it has been to have such a warm mild winter in PA, where our temps until the past week have been upwards of 50-60 degrees. They have debunked global warming in so many letters, using the worst of discredited sources, and pat themselves on the back for sticking it to us “radical lberal left wing whackos/lunatics” who dare to contradict them. I wonder if they will realize, when during summer, we are inundated with mobs of insects, a water shortage/drought, etc…. that perhaps our nice warm winter created a nightmare scenario for summer. that may have reciprocal effects for a long time to come. Ironically, the temps have now dropped, in under a week, to the teens, with snow every day, wind chills around or below zero every day lately. Our extremes in weather are quite noticeable if you are paying any attention at all. Here they are not wathcing Idol… here, it is football,hockey, football… which just has to be a factor in the numbing down of the area we live in. Oh yeah, but the schools suck too, so the combination is devastating. Reading our local paper daily is enough to make your ears bleed.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:02 pmHow the hell is that even possible to have never heard of global warming? HOW THE HELL IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE? I mean, go outside “Boy, why is the weather so messed up? Think I’ll jump on Google. Oh global warming, Al Gore did a movie about it, people talk about it constantly, oh, now I’m informed.” that’s how easy it is. Wake up America!
January 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pmThe 42% are a part of the 35% Crazy-bigots (Republicans)
January 29th, 2007 at 9:43 pmGlobal warming is when you look at the broad you like in the rodeo show, right?
January 29th, 2007 at 9:58 pmDo you get it yet?
We’re screwed.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pmDont worry. Its just 39 million people living in the superpower of the planet.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:07 pm#23 Neil Schimmenti
I did not hear one person mention that they would “do something†about this. Try activism as compared to just regurgitating cliches about TV or about how “dumb†America is.
Fine example you are. Screwing around, posting messages on blogs, scolding others when you should be out DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT! Show us the way, oh purest-of-the-pure environmental activist. Don’t just talk about it. Do it! Right this very instant!
January 29th, 2007 at 10:24 pmI worry, that 13% are inbreeding like rabbits and will soon approach 30%. I often wonder how they construct a family tree when their mom is grandmother, aunt and their father is grandfather and uncle and on both sides they’re cousins.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:28 pm13%. The number of Americans with their head completely cemented in thier a$$ !!
January 29th, 2007 at 10:31 pmIt’s the sun causing the latest episode of warming, not humans! The proof, late in coming though it is, has been provided by researchers in sunspot number reconstruction. Take a look at this graphic that superimposes sunspot number reconstructions over the MBH 1999 and Moberg 2005 global temperature curves.
Pretty close match, right? Now it can’t be the Earth’s climate driving the sunspots, so it has to be the other way ’round!
P.S. If the image is too small, click on the All Sizes button to display a much larger version.
P.P.S. If you don’t think the sunspot curves match the global temp curves closely enough, take a look at this graphic that compares the same curves to the global temp reconstruction at Wikipedia. They sure look good compared to the chaos that is the wide variety of global temp curves.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm#45 – Chris Christner,
January 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pmTake a cold shower and sober up. The Sun has followed two cycles for billions of years. They operate at 11 and 17 years. Never has the warming cycle reached the same level as it has in the last decade. Glaciers all over the Earth are retreating at levels unprecedented in recorded and fossil history.
Unfortunately, we continue to burn fossil fuels and construct more fossil fuel energy plants instead of building nuclear power plants like China, India, Japan, and France. Until our politicians dig it out and build more nuclear plants, we’ll continue to lead the planet in global warming emissions.
Oh well.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pmWalt,
Wrong you are, chum. The last time temps were this torrid was approx 8000 years ago during the Holocene optimum. Did you actually look at the curves? Take a look at this , it the paper Uroskin et al released a couple years ago showing their sunspot numbers reconstruction for 2000 years (they just released an updated paper a month ago, the curves have hardly changed–that’s the black GRL curve called out in this graphic). They also mention how similar the sunspot curves look to global temp curves.
You’re out of date on your cycle info. Look up 10Be and sunspots on Google, fascinating stuff.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pm#14 and #17, the new designs eliminate the possibility of man error, which caused Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.
Besides, coal plants are more dangerous, radioactive, and harmful to the planet than nuclear plants.
Do some research before sounding like idiots, eh? At least learn how to spell. LOL.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pmSorry, operator error.
Here is the link to the Uroskin et al. paper.
Here’s the graphic that shows the most current sunspot numbers reconstruction (black GRL curve.)
January 29th, 2007 at 11:00 pmJay Randal,
As Hillary would say: ‘It Takes A Village.’
J.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:01 pm#49 muckdog
the new designs eliminate the possibility of man error, which caused Chernobyl and Three Mile Island.
You underestimate the species. Nothing eliminates the possibility of “man” error in something that was designed and built by humans. (Hint: greedy people cut corners without regard for the safety of others)
January 29th, 2007 at 11:05 pmWhy don’t Ukranian men wear boxers?
Because Cher-knob-yl fall-out….
January 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pmIt’s not “Global Warming” anymore, now it’s “Climate Change” , that way no matter what the weather does, the Leftist Tryannists (I made up that word) can continue thier attempt to destroy Industry.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:09 pmChris Christner – your talking point is no longer current. Get with the zeitgeist. The IPCC 4th report is ready for you to read on Friday…
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/article2193672.ece
The key passage reported by the Independent is:
The IPCC also finally nails the canard of the climate sceptics who argue that global warming is a myth or the result of natural climate variability; natural factors alone cannot account for the observed warming, the IPCC says. “These changes took place at a time when non-anthropogenic forcing factors (i.e. the sum of solar and volcanic forcing) would be expected to have produced cooling, not warming.
Well there you have it..best of luck with that.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:13 pmVince,
I have a reliable touchstone to determine how reasonable an environmentalist is, just ask him if he thinks the planet would be better off without human beings on it.
It’s scary how many say “yes!”
Scary because this planet has slaughtered most of the species living on it several times over. The only hope for preventing further such extinctions is for mankind to run things. We’re getting there as fast as we can, give us another century and the whole planet will look like a park.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:15 pm“Tryannists” – try what, and only once a year? I get more than that… maybe it’s your inability to listen, Vinny.
“destroy Industry” – hear that rustling – its your straw man drying up and blowing away.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:16 pmHey Terry, look up in the IPCC for 10Be sunspot numbers reconstructions, I dare you.
SN reconstructions are the latest thing, newer than next week and certainly more likely to be true than anything in the IPCC’s latest penny dreadful.
Take a look at the curves and tell me you don’t begin to question your dogmatic faith in AGW.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:17 pmWhy don’t Ukranian men wear boxers?
Because Cher-knob-yl fall-out….
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Thanks for that one, Turtle. Heh.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:19 pmOK Chris, I’ll spend a bit of time on your links and you read the IPCC and see how they treat the sunspot question – are you denying the Independent report which clearly states that sun forcing is acting negatively, making the warming even more unusual?
January 29th, 2007 at 11:20 pm#48 – Chris Christner,
January 29th, 2007 at 11:21 pmI’ll say that the Sun was a bit hotter at the time of ignition about 4 or 5 billion years ago, but since then it has run down on fuel. In addition, reactions are into the heavier elements which yield less energy. You know, the difference between a Hydrogen Bomb vis a vie one using Urarium or Plutonium. The Sun has not approached that state yet, but is rapidly assembling elements at At. No. 9 and below. When it hits 40, we are fried. That’s about 4 to 6 billion years away.
By the by, sunspots are cold regions on the surface of he Sun.
Let me put it this way Terry, I’ve posted a link to the SN reconstruction paper and also several graphics that compare SN curves to global temp curves. Even without a close look, it’s obvous that they’re very similar, especially where they all swoop upwards in the 20th century. Unless you think Uroskin and his team are all wet, the Independent must have it wrong, neh?
January 29th, 2007 at 11:25 pmWalt, I must assume that you looked at the curves and your astonishment led to post #61. Otherwise, I’m at a loss to understand what you’re getting at.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:27 pmChris: right on.
Not only does the sun have much to do with the energy in the air (heat), so does the ocean, a shift of ocean tempataure can have significant impacts on climate (El Nino is a good example). No one knows what process if any the tempature of the earth’s core beneath the oceans have on the ocean.
The fact is, we humans have no comprehensive understanding of all the inputs that go into the atmosphere, so the very fact that all of a sudden “Global Warming” has been “proved” without a shadow of a doubt to be caused by industry and no dissent is allow IS THE PRIMARY REASON to dismiss the allegation and research some more.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:34 pmChris – sure there is a graph which seems to show a correlation, but its not a pure correlation – that century near the 1050 mark shows sunspot activity in complete opposition to the warming trend…. hmm negatuvely correlated instead of positively correlated.
Now I am pointing you not to the Independent, Chris, but an article from the Independent which quotes the IPCC 4th report, coming out on Friday and which states that the effects of sun and volcanos are not significant in the apparent temperature change being observed. Even if your correlation holds, the magnitude of the correlation seems to be found by the IPCC to be small compared to the anthropogenic effects.
So you need to challenge the IPCC, not the Independent – which is why I said “Good luck with that”
January 29th, 2007 at 11:37 pmThat’s right Vinny, the presence of the iceberg and ice on the deck, the slanting deck, the water rushing into the ship. I bet if we’d done more research, we’d have found that someone left their bath running – no need to abandon the ship at all.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:40 pmTerry, I understood your point, but mine was that if the SN curves are correct, it doesn’t matter where the Independent sourced the article, it would have to be wrong based on the more correct information.
As for the curves not matching completely, I expected that comment. Take a look at this Wikipedia graphic combining the global temperature reconstructions from the major players. Looks pretty random to me. The only thing that’s saved them is they all swoop up in the 20th century like they’re heading for the moon.
Based on that, take another look at the SN curves and then at this one where the curves are overlaid on the Wikipedia graphic.
I’d say the SN curves track better with the global temp reconstructions than many of the wilder global temp curves do. Yet all those curves have been cited by “warmists” as being equally valid (because of that lovely swoop!)
January 29th, 2007 at 11:45 pm#63 – Chris Christner,
January 29th, 2007 at 11:45 pmRestated – energy output from the Sun has not measurably changed since measurements started in the 1800’s (about 1870, it was discovered that selenium would emit an electrical current when excited by light in the midst of laying a transatlantic telegraph cable, hence television and the light meter), global temperatures have significantly increased since 1982. Witness the melting of glaciers over the entire Earth.
Captain of the Titanic : Change your name to Chicken Little.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:47 pmChris, the 1050 anomaly is the flaw in your argument. Whether or not the activity goes up in tandem with the last 25 years or so needs to be matched against the 1050 period where the sunspots and temperature go in opposite directions. The degree of correlation suggests that sunspots are not the main cause of the variation.
Now if you look at the CO2 trend for 100s of thousands of years, there simply are no odd anomalies like your unexplainable 1050 issue. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Co2-temperature-plot.svg – in this case the correlation between CO2 and temperature suggests that Co2 concentration is a far more important forcer in climate temperature. It’s just mathematics: which is correlated more? Its obvious.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:04 amTerry,
No odd CO2 anomalies? Hmmm, take a look at this graph. Granted it covers a longer period (500 million years) than yours, but at the left end the CO2 levels on Earth were 7000 ppm. They dropped since then to today’s 400 ppm (approx), yet temps have stayed within a relatively narrow 72°F (22°C) to 54°F (12°C) range. According to the warmists, such huge swings in CO2 levels should have left us looking like Venus.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:12 am#70 – TerryTT,
January 30th, 2007 at 12:13 amMe thinks that Chris has found a hole to crawl into. Logic simply escapes him. I often wonder how he would do scuba diving off Denver.
Even looking at the variation in the different trends, that 1050 anomaly is still there and the Little Ice Age in the 1500-1750 period takes place almost in complete disregard for the sunspots – sunspots are not the big mover. It’s like watching one dynamic imposed on one, larger, unseen one.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:14 amTerry,
January 30th, 2007 at 12:21 amYou’re talking to a post.
Chris: Isn’t it nice when you try to be civil you are called names in response.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:23 amIt’s the sun causing the latest episode of warming, not humans!
Comment by Chris Christner
Hey, Pointdexter, every second 1368+/- Joules/m² arrives above atmosphere from the sun. Surface of the sun is 5780 °C, more or less. Do you think that any of these parameters varying considerably would be unnoticed in the sense that we could have 80°C in the Sahara any given day? Radiation from the sun has its peak at the blue wavelength, thats why you see a blue sky over your head. A very LOW percentage of the incoming radiation is INFRARED radiation (longwavelength: 0.8 to 2 micrometers), which is also known as heat radiation. The radiation that heats up the planet is the INFRARED radiation that the surface of the Earth emits at night to the 2.7 Kelvin space which is trapped by GREENHOUSE GASES. Using the Stefan law of radiation to compute the temperature of the Earth would give you a -15°C average for the planet. Huh? How can that be? Yes, Pointdexter, what heats the planet is another thing, not just the incoming radiation from the sun. This INFRARED terrestrial radiation is trapped by some elements in nature: water vapor, CO2, methane, etc. Methane absorbs 25 times more heat than CO2. Natural gas is made, among other stuff, of methane. CO2 natural releasings are being increased by human activity, thats a fact. Check out Venus.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:24 amVince, I don’t mind Walt, he just resents that the pillars of his faith are being shaken.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:25 amChris: indeed.. that’s what I attribute to the See no Jihad, Hear no Jihad, Say no Jihad mindblock they exhibit.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:27 amVince P,
January 30th, 2007 at 12:28 amIf you are referencing my post, it was meant to be a compliment.
According to the warmists, such huge swings in CO2 levels should have left us looking like Venus.
Comment by Chris Christner
Im gonna put it real simple for you, Chris.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:30 amHow a breathable atmosphere was formed in the first place in this planet? Well, all those poisonous elements were DEPOSITED down into layers and layers of rocks. Some of those elements can be released by means of volcanic eruptions. There is nothing we can do about it. But, also, all those elements that Earth have DEPOSITED down, becuz nature is so wise, we are extracting them out by drilling and pumping oil, gas and oils from bituminous sands. We are filling the atmosphere with the same matter that did not support life, some 3 billions years ago. Got a clue now?
Juan, I submit to your genius. You are even more inscrutable than Walt!
You really must find a happy place, Juan, you seem to be a very angry guy.
–Chris “Pointdexter–I’m left handed so that name fits” Christner
January 30th, 2007 at 12:31 amVince P,
If you are referencing my post, it was meant to be a compliment.
Comment by WaltTheMan
LMAO!!
January 30th, 2007 at 12:32 amVince, I don’t mind Walt, he just resents that the pillars of his faith are being shaken.
Comment by Chris Christner — January 30, 2007 @ 12:25 am
Science isn’t a matter of faith Chris…. really that’s a bit sloppy of you. Come on, you’ve stopped engaging on sunspots, perhaps we’re at the end of your contribution – its time for you to find something mathematical to back up your theory that sunspots are the major forcer in climate change…
January 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amI don’t mind Walt, he just resents that the pillars of his faith are being shaken.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:33 amComment by Chris Christner
Thats the problem, Chris. He presented you facts and you think is about faith. You are a great scientist, Galileo…
#72 is a compliment? Well I’ll have to take your word for it, though it’s hard to see how that is so unless it’s a very very in joke.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:34 amJuan, I submit to your genius. You are even more inscrutable than Walt!
Comment by Chris Christner
Thats your decision. I would suggest you not to submit, but to discuss ideas. To study, to inform yourselg and argue accordingly. No submissions. Stop seeing life in such a sad light.
You really must find a happy place, Juan, you seem to be a very angry guy.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:36 amAngry? You are so funny. Why would I be angry?
Juan C: Actually it happened like this:
First the Earth cooled. Then the dinosaurs came, but they were too fat and died and turned into oil. Then the Arabs came and all bought Mercedes-Benzes. And Prince Charles started wearing all of Lady Di’s clothes; I couldn’t believe it! He took her best summer dress out of the closet and tried it on…
January 30th, 2007 at 12:37 am#1 – shoulda shut this thread down right there….
January 30th, 2007 at 12:46 amI saw some Muslim guys at the mall yesterday. I asked them if they were, and they said yes, and I asked them where they were from and they said Iran. I asked them if they wanted to chop my head off. They said no. I asked them again, and that time I kind of stuck my neck out to give them a fair shot, but still they wouldn’t do it. I asked them why not, and they said they didn’t want to chop anyone’s head off. I asked them why not, and they said because it was shocking and disgusting. I said, “yeah sure, whatever, guys – you’re not foolin’ me!”, and I took off.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:49 am#77 – Chris Christner,
January 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amMy only concern is the pillars of science. As Juan says, look at Venus. The only thing wrong with his thesis is that methane is an absorbent. It is actually one of the reflectors.
(This is a bit late, but this thread has turned into a hornet’s nest.)
tom: That’s pretty rude, did you think they were Muslims because they were dark? Shouldn’t stereotype individuals or go up to them and ask them inappropiate questions.
Anyway , you were on a fool’s errand, the Koran instructs Muslims not to say things to non-Muslims which harm Islam.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:55 amThe only thing wrong with his thesis is that methane is an absorbent. It is actually one of the reflectors.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:56 amComment by WaltTheMan
I didnt understand. Hows that?
#92 – Juan C,
January 30th, 2007 at 1:15 amGreen house gasses work as an one way filter – the uppermost layer is exposed to extremely low temperatures while the lower layers are warmer. The increased excitivity in the lower layers increases their ability to reflect energy. This, like glass in a green house, makes the energy income gain on the positive side away from the source (Glass is, physicly, a liquid, you know.). The net result is that the reflectivity is most beneficial on the down receiving side in a heat sink situation when a thermal gradient is involved.
Looks like Chris ran out of faith in his argument. Well my battery is out, and it doesn’t matter how much I pray to Michael Faraday, it ain’t coming back until I can get the cord from my office…
January 30th, 2007 at 1:22 amTerry,
January 30th, 2007 at 1:24 amYou could always try assault.
#34 Why should Americans care what happens to a bunch of Pinko commies?
comment by Spudge_Boy January 29, 2007 @ 7:46pm
Because it’s global climate change dude and because, as one of your own brave astronauts said after viewing the Earth from space, the things which unite us (as a species) are much greater than the things which divide us.
January 30th, 2007 at 2:12 amLike rivers and oceans and migrating birds, the atmosphere does not recognize national boundaries drawn on a map by a politician.Like it or not, we are all inter-connected on this rotating sphere we have no choice but to call home.
It was your own American politicians and bankers who created the ‘globalised market’ of international trade that has brought about the destruction of local industries and the inequality of wealth in many developed countries of the west.
If you or your family have lost a job because it was shifted offshore to a country where the labor is cheaper, DO NOT blame the poor guy in China or India or Taiwan for working to support HIS family.Have a look closer to home to see who is really to blame.
It’s your greedy rich who will do anything for a bigger slice of the pie and if that means screwing you over, well so be it.
And before you say I’m off the subject, why do you think you have so many troops in the Middle East right now?Oil, oil, oil that’s why. No other reason.
Bush and Cheney are both oil men and their buddies are all involved in the military industrial complex.
Your soldiers are in the Middle East to line the pockets of the super rich, born to rule fascists you call your leaders.
Dirty, filthy, money generating oil is well past its use-by date.There are a multitude of clean and very efficient ways to run cars and machinery and generate electricity.
Can anybody say “Tesla”?
Google the words ‘Free energy’ and open your eyes to OUR brave new world.Turn your backs on their New World Order.
On second thoughts, no, don’t ever turn your backs on the ba$tard$. Thats how they’ve gotten away with it up till now.
Poor Tom… tilting at weather windmills. I bet he doesn’t care that a Muslim leader in his country said to his followers in Sydney:
“It is important… [to move] collectively in the Muslim world to demand this change from such influential people in our lands, even if it means spilling onto the streets to create a revolution or staging a military coup” [0]
No, that’s a make up threat. Climate Change is much much more real even though it’s all junk science with a political agenda.
January 30th, 2007 at 3:59 amhttp://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s1836250.htm
January 30th, 2007 at 5:10 amWeather experts meet in Paris to discuss climate change
ABC Online – 1 hour ago
TONY EASTLEY: This week, hundreds of the world’s weather experts are meeting in Paris to nut out an authoritative report on the affects of global warming.
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http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-01-29-voa44.cfm
Climate Experts Meet to Discuss Long-Awaited Global Warming Report Voice of America
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http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/articles/2007/01/29/world_leaders_urged_to_act_on_global_warming_study
World leaders urged to act on global warming study Boston Globe
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Comment by Joanie Doe ®™
January 30th, 2007 at 6:13 am… but 100% of Americans KNOW from first hand experience, that it is 10 – 15 degrees warmer than in the surrounding countryside. Urban heat islands – a fact you don’t need a liberal pseudo-scientist to tell you.
January 30th, 2007 at 8:36 amA heat island over San Francisco doesn’t raise the oceans.
January 30th, 2007 at 8:59 amAnd this was a survey of internet users…who I would imagine tend to be better informed.
January 30th, 2007 at 10:08 amThese people are completely useless.
January 30th, 2007 at 10:59 am“22% of Americans think Elvis is still alive
28% still support Bush”
And something like 75% believe in angels! I like that one. Its kind of nice to think that an angel is looking over me.
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