The U.S. does not need Israel in anyway, shape, or form. But without U.S. aid, military and political support, Israel is done for. Zionist neocon Bolton does not think about cut-and-run there, does he? The American strategic position would improve if it cut off all aid to Israel and switched.

One of the funniest jokes on this thread, “Having said that, John Bolton is a respectable man, tone down your hate.” There are many things you could say about bully and thug Bolton, but “respectable” would not come to mind.

Why does Bushco hate our strategic interests?

Iraq must remain one country; a divided Iraq will further destabalize the Mid-East. First there would be border disputes over cities and settlements and claims of natural resources. Massive sectarian relocations are next. Not just within Iraq, but in the entire region (e.g. Kurds in Turkey). The stability of neighboring countries would be threatened–governments don’t like to cede territory nor human resources. If borders are ever drawn, then new governments must emerge in the former-Iraqi nations. That is, evidently, an arduous task, let alone cause for the raise of oppressive regimes that harbour terrorists.

Having said that, John Bolton is a respectable man, tone down your hate.

Second, sectarian and ethnic divisions in post-Saddam Iraq were inevitable – civil war was not. The problem now is that we helped start the civil war, which gives us no credibility when we say we are trying to stop it. We had the ability to intervene in Kosovo and East Timor for example, because we weren’t a source of instability. In Iraq, where we’ve everything ass-backwards from Day 1, our presence, despite every argument that we have honorable intentions, is deeply problematic.

And finally, John Bolton’s argument here is a sick joke. We face the possibility of 1 Iraq or 3 new countries. He says we’re strategically neutral on the outsome…

Okay then. Let’s work up the possibility that a unified Iraq comes into existence – isn’t that what we really want? One government, at least not hostile to us, able to maintain a semblance of law and order, and willing to confront Al Qaeda extremists… Someone tell me that isn’t in our strategic interests?

The alternative is a Sunni Republic – basically a reconstitution of Saddam’s Baathist regime; a Shi’ite Republic – Mini-me to Iran; and a Kurdish Republic, which will headquarter a movement for the establishment of Greater Kurdistan (and thus a threat to Turkey’s territorial integrity).

Note to Bolton and other dumbf*cks. Turkey is a member of NATO. If it is under threat, as NATO allies, we are obligated to go to Turkey’s defense. Which will mean going to war with the Kurds.

Just another reason why listening to Bolton makes you stupid.

O’Reilly.

“There IS NO MORE IRAQ. There WILL BE THREE TERRITORIES.”
– Kissinger, early 2004, briefing his Saudi clients.

• Jerry ‘Paul’ Bremer, past president of Kissinger Associates, arrives in Baghdad as CPA chief, and in first two orders unemploys the entire Iraq security structure — to the collective gasp of most of the military below Co-conspirator Staff level — and deBaathifying the gov’t to four levels:

CREATING MASS DISORDER and a lot of anger.

• Bushco failed to write any orders to guard Al-Qaqaa’s 380 metric tons of high-explosives, CENTCOM ‘lost’ 450 shoulder-fired missiles, and Iraq’s nine nuclear dumps were somehow not important to an invasion based on the danger of nuclear proliferation. All of the high-precision machine tools in the country are now missing, along with cannisters of cesium and strontium.

• The CIA burned the Koran-Torah Repository, and the invasion force allowed the destruction and looting of large amounts of Iraqi (and world) cultural property.

• Electricity was kept at below invasion levels to date. Reconstruction was just a boondoggle for contractors. Water just as bad.

• Hussein’s worst prison reactivated. Whole families abducted and transfered and tortured.

It’s a fomented Shake And Bake Civil War, ALL INGREDIENTS ADDED, AND SHAKE with the worst cruelty you can imagine.

It astounds me that you are trying to sell the hunched shoulders answer to ‘what the policy is’. Why don’t you get the Ouija board and ask Adolf?

It’s too little too late.

In the event, things turn out to be more complicated, but this was the thinking.

The deathgrip was released (unfortunately cosmicly coinciding with a global Jihadi movement) and now everyone is sorting themselves out.

I know you guys love to attack Bush, but this was inevitible.

Now if this civil war happened and we weren’t there, Christiana Amampour and Jamie Ruban would be crying for American assistance to end the genocide.

Primary objecives they are a-changing

Go in, wreck the place, make them pay out of their nose for the war material that was dumped on them (remember that idea? war is gonna pay for itself?) then it’s “you ungrateful natives we are no longer interested in your country” (yeah, remember “we are not interested in nation building?” .. that kind of Rumsfeld bull? it’s finally coming true then) Yeah… the next one will be “but they did it to themselves”. A rapist’s excuses ..

Don’t ever expect that they will stand for a real democracy to be created in Iraq, but the problem bushco has now, is how to put a puppet government in place that will continue to give us what we want yet appear to be “free” and democratic. Additionally, they didn’t do their home work and failed to comprehend (among many other things) that the ancient hatreds would explode when the only control (Saddam) over this violence was removed.