In an op-ed in today’s Washington Post, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley claims the administration’s escalation plan simply follows the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group:
The Baker-Hamilton report supports this conclusion. It said: “We could, however, support a short-term redeployment or surge of American combat forces to stabilize Baghdad . . . if the U.S. commander in Iraq determines that such steps would be effective.” Our military commanders, and the president, have determined just that.
Tony Snow unveiled the new talking point earlier this month:
What we have done — if you take a look at page 73, where it talks about building capabilities, putting Iraqis in the lead, and there was even some talk about “a surge,” that’s in there.
The Iraq Study Group did say a “short-term redeployment” of more troops into Baghdad could be part of a larger military, economic, and diplomatic plan. But both American Enterprise Institute’s Fred Kagan — the architect of the escalation plan — and Lt. Gen. Raymond T. Odierno — the new U.S. ground commander in Iraq — have said the escalation could last anywhere between 18 months and 3 years. That’s hardly “short-term.”
Moreover, the Iraq Study Group report specifically argued against sending more troops to Iraq:
Sustained increases in U.S. troop levels would not solve the fundamental cause of violence in Iraq, which is the absence of national reconciliation. A senior American general told us that adding U.S. troops might temporarily help limit violence in a highly localized area. However, past experience indicates that the violence would simply rekindle as soon as U.S. forces are moved to another area. As another American general told us, if the Iraqi government does not make political progress, “all the troops in the world will not provide security.”
The Iraq Study Group’s co-chair Lee Hamilton recently spoke out against the plan. “You delay the date of completion of the training mission,” Hamilton said. “You delay the date of handing responsibility to the Iraqis. You delay the date of departure of U.S. troops.”
The Iraq Study Group is nothing more than a bunch of old Pappy Bush’s codger buds……little left between the ears, plenty of gray, and butt-kissing bureaucrats with no credibility.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pmNo one in this country believes anything Snowjob or the WH says these days so what is the “truth” behind the Iraq Study Group?? I don’t even think the members of the group know…..or remember, as the case more accurately may be……so who really cares what they have to say?
January 29th, 2007 at 1:12 pmShocked. Shocked, I tell ya.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:34 pmI think the bigger point of it is that almost nobody agrees with the administration on this and the White House has to lie to give the impression that Bush has any support. The ISG didn’t agree with the surge and Bush ignored them.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:37 pmit’s all a sic little game and the sad thing is the american folks allowed it to happen. so who is to really blame? what’s that saying……don’t hate the players hate the game. and really think about it…….you kinda gotta give it to them for pulling this shit off for decades. and to do it right in front and under the noses of the american folks. BRA-FCKING-O TO ALL MY OLDER GENERATIONS AMERICANS. it’s now up to the younger generation that is far more involved than ever before and this generation to put an end to this NOW before it’s to late. i just hope it’s not. these pricks are embedded like roaches. and i’ll bet every single one of them have blue ink on their index fingers. to hell with ALL of the beaurocrats.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:39 pmGot Alternate Universe?
January 29th, 2007 at 1:41 pm“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when
everything the American public believes is false.”
– William Casey, CIA Director (from first staff meeting, 1981)
“You can’t tell any more the difference between what’s propaganda and what’s news.”
FCC Commissioner Jonathan Adelstein
15 August, 2006
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/16/national/main1900602.shtm
Karl Rove INVENTED the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) for one purpose. TOTAL MESSAGE CONTROL.
Rove is a genious…an evil genious.
He can only be effective when he knows literally everything. He is the REALITY CREATION ARCHITECT.
At any given time he can take a set of actual facts and use each of them to stitch together a totally false reality.
Rove knew that the truth was the enemy of their conspiracy to conquer the Middle East (the PNAC plan). His job, every single day, is to convince you, me and the rest of the world that you didn’t just see and hear what you just saw and heard…or if you did, it doesn’t mean what your logical mind is attempting to tell you – because “we’re in a post-9/11 world now” and black is white.
Karl Rove is the single most destructive force in the US Government…the enabler of the entire evil scheme…THE ARCHITECT.
The scheme includes 9/11 as the essential pretext. “9/11″ … how clever, Karl! Only someone with American sensibilities would select the number we have all memorized to call in the event of life threatening emergency as the date for this evil….
KARL ROVE.
The war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.
Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.
All of their schemes and conspiracies REQUIRED 9/11 as the essential trigger.
Cheney outsourced the implementation of the FALSE FLAG OPERATION to Mossad…the FALSE FLAG experts. This explains why over 200 Mossad agents were operating in the United States prior to 9/11. This explains why five of them were arrested, having been observed filming the planes hitting the towers and their subsequent collapse – celebrating our worst nightmare.
9/11 was not a bad day for those involved in the Conspiracy. It was their shining moment…their PRETEXT.
One of them washed out…couldn’t cope with the guilt. Ari Fleisher had to be replaced, and disappeared. Not dead, but out of sight.
The outing of Plame was designed to destroy the best WMD intelligence the US had at its disposal regarding Iraq. Plame knew for a FACT that Iraq had no WMD. It was HER JOB to know. Therefore Rove perceived Plame (the truth) as his WORST ENEMY, and conceived of a plan to silence her. Rove is the individual who insisted that Wilson be sent to Niger.
GUARANTEED.
This was the only way to launch a smear program which appeared to be aimed at Wilson, but was intended solely to shut down the entire Brewster Jennings operation and bury their WMD evidence.
THAT IS ALL ROVE.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:47 pmTony, it’s difficult to go back and look at page 73, as George already wiped his butt with the document. You go open it to page 73.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:49 pmAce,
I read that exact same comment months ago. I agree it’s probably true. But you have given yourself up as being Plunger.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:51 pmWhy in the hell does everyone in this administration lie everytime they open their mouths? From Shrub all the way down.
And the lies are blatent, in your face, America, f*ck you anyway, lies.
Yet these liars have the support of the so-called Moral Majority. You know the people that advocate killing anyone of different faith, persecuting gays, etc, while on the same breath talking about Jesus’s love. Who does Jesus say to bomb today?
If someone had told me our country would be in this kind of freekin mess 10 years ago, I would have not believed it. Everything is assbackwards and total hypocricy.
Absoloutely Unbelievable
January 29th, 2007 at 1:55 pm“You delay the date of completion of the training mission,†Hamilton said. “You delay the date of handing responsibility to the Iraqis. You delay the date of departure of U.S. troops.â€
We got Tom DeLay out of Congress.
January 29th, 2007 at 1:56 pmNow is the time to get Peace Delay out of Congress.
Lying always worked the past. This is just more of the same. I’m surprised he thinks it will fly anymore. Beyond disconnected from what’s happening in this country. Beyond.
January 29th, 2007 at 2:04 pmI’ll believe Hadley when Cheney starts telling the truth…
January 29th, 2007 at 2:05 pmhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3395321338401208062&q=conspiracy+of+silence
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century
January 29th, 2007 at 2:06 pmClinton to Bush: clean up your mess before you leave…
BEIJING, Jan. 29 (Xinhuanet) — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed a town hall-style audience of about 300 activists Sunday in Davenport, Iowa, and told President Bush he should withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq before leaving office.
Clinton asserted it would be “the height of irresponsibility” to pass the war along to the next commander in chief.
“This was his decision to go to war with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy,” the Democratic senator from New York said her in initial presidential campaign swing through Iowa.
“We expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office” in January 2009, the former first lady said.
The White House condemned Clinton’s comments as a partisan attack that undermines U.S. soldiers.
January 29th, 2007 at 2:09 pmFT – Widely known Plunger is Ace….
January 29th, 2007 at 2:31 pmCherry picker in Chief.
January 29th, 2007 at 2:53 pmThe war plan to invade Iraq was written BEFORE 9/11. The Secret Energy Task Force meetings that Cheney had with Ken Lay and the other OIL HOGS during which they all decided how to divide up the oil fields of the Middle East…all of that was BEFORE 9/11.
Now you see why Cheney insisted the substance of those talks remain SECRET.
I am reminded of quotes from an interview on Nightline when Ted Koppel asked Cheney about the secret meetings. It went something like this:
Ted: “Why not simply make the list of attendees public and silence your critics?”
Cheney: “I would, but you wouldn’t be surprised by the names on the list anyway.”
And with that one sentence, Cheney summed up the logic of his refusal.
I also believe he blabbed on about how, if he released the names from those meetings, in the future he’d be expected to be transparent with all his meetings.
Amazing.
January 29th, 2007 at 2:55 pmThe White House condemned Clinton’s comments as a partisan attack that undermines U.S. soldiers.
That tired line is not working anymore. I’m surprised they even try to trot it out one more time. They’ve got to be kidding. What a bunch of imbeciles we have in office.
January 29th, 2007 at 2:59 pmThe above was copy/pasted from here:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com/
January 29th, 2007 at 3:05 pmHadley is what would have happened to Ralphie Parker, if he hadn’t gotten his Red Ryder BB Gun for Christmas that year….
January 29th, 2007 at 3:51 pmIn an op-ed in today’s Washington Post, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley claims the administration’s escalation plan simply follows the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group Of course, why do you think that President Bush turned the study group down flat?
January 29th, 2007 at 3:56 pm#5 bs
Before you decide to launch a war against a generation, you really should try to find out what the f*ck you’re talking about.
January 29th, 2007 at 4:35 pmThe White House condemned Clinton’s comments as a partisan attack that undermines U.S. soldiers.
Comment by AK47 — January 29, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I don’t condemn Clinton’s comments for that reason, but I do find myself angered by them, because we don’t have TWO MORE YEARS plus a few months to END THIS!! The time is NOW…not when it may be more convenient for the “next President.” Here’s my opinion of her: …either s***t or get off the pot. I don’t want to vote for another politician…I want to vote for a leader who has the courage to do what is right. She wants to please as many people as she can on all sides, and regarding Iraq, there is only ONE right side here. Get us OUT and END the OCCUPATION!
January 29th, 2007 at 5:06 pmThe idea that these troops will be deployed for 18months to 3 years is fiction. Odierno didn’t say the surge could last that long, he said *the war* could last that long. Huge difference.
You’ve spun the record in just the way you accuse Mr. Hadley of doing. Even by claiming the ISG supports “escalation” which they don’t, and which Mr. Hadley is not proposing or supporting.
He’s proposing a new strategy, and reinforcements of the military *and* civilian efforts…not to mention the economic incentives and political requirements.
Spin Spin Spin. If you’d provide a credible alternative…perhaps more people like me would subscribe to your approach.
January 29th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“Your breed made a desert of it…” Dr. Zaius
A few weak men get together, plot to overthrow the planet, screw things up for a generation. The history of man. Its all just one more step to nuclear destruction, but now we are real close. Its checkmate unless we take at least 1/2 our military budget to use on alternative fuel development ASAP to cut off the funding to the Muslim radicals and the U.S. warmongers – a strategy that in the meantime would stop multiplying the numbers of the terrorist nuts from its present daily exponential rate (aka the real defense strategy), then we’ve all got maybe 10 years left.
But some encouraging things going on. Senator Webb. Tough talking, no time for bull. And Biden. Look at Chuck Hagel losing it. Just utterly dumping on all the BS in a 10 minute tirade on why the U.S. is breaking down. Its greed on one hand and apathy on the other. Everything that has made this entire mess possible – the oil nuts and their oilman president and vice president (you can clearly envision Bush nudging the manager of his blind trust, day after election, “just er, stick with oil and war, er, defense stocks and we should be fine”) the military complex, lobbyists, and agents for foreign countries masquerading as Senators and then a hundred million idiots who sit through one dumbassed show after the other. Too bad none of them even know who Chuck Hagel is or why he was unloading on his colleagues- a combat veteran who knows what a waste of life war really is. On the greed side, look at Cheney, a pathetic, transparent, bitter old man. Bitter that he never what, won a war ? Screw him. He has personally pushed the nuclear clock a few dozen ticks, just in the last six years. My kids thank you in advance. F*ck your arrogance, man. In ten years, when the clock is very close to midnight, we’ll look back on the Bush years as a time when chances to turn it all around were blown left and right. Young people, those not thinking about who might be calling you on your cell phone, raise your swords, greed and apathy are closing in…
January 29th, 2007 at 11:43 pmMORE LIES FROM HADLEY’S WAPO OP-ED
LIE: “Alternatives now being discussed in Congress were considered but rejected after the strategic risks and stakes were calculated” (They ‘considered’ nothing but their own stubborn agenda/people who AGREED with their agenda)
LIE: “Most people agree that we must focus on fighting al-Qaeda. THE PRESIDENT’S STRATEGY STEPS UP THIS FIGHT” (Even 16 of his own Intelligence Agencies unanimously agree that his war in Iraq is a ‘Cause Celebre’ for Extremists/Terrorists)
LIE: “The administration also agrees that we must accelerate the training of Iraqi security forces” (if that was TRUE, it wouldn’t be taking nearly 4 years to make it happen. Staying in the region/permanent occupation is WHAT HE WANTS)
LIE: “Benchmarks to track progress and bolster the size and effectiveness of those forces.” (NO “benchmarks” have been set or will be set. Whoever has recommended them to him has been branded ‘terrorist lovers’ and traitors’)
LIE: “Training and supporting Iraqi troops will remain our military’s essential and primary mission.” (Their “primary mission” is to create and maintain circumstances so we’ll never leave Iraq. Hence Bush’s statement: The removal of U.S. forces in Iraq “will be decided by future Presidents”
LIE: “The president’s review also concluded that the strategy with the best chance of success must have a plan for securing Baghdad” (Bush didn’t “review” anything and his incompetence and stubborn, egotistical recklessness will never equate to success)
LIE: “The Iraqi government and its security institutions could fracture under the pressure of widespread sectarian violence, ethnic cleansing and mass killings.” (I refer again to what 16 of Bush’s own intelligence agencies said on the matter as well as 87% of the Top Security and Terrorism Analysts — that our OCCUPATION and BUSH’S POLICIES are causing the most violence, terrorist recruitment, regional instability, hostility towards the U.S./Americans.)
LIE: “Chaos would spread throughout the country — and throughout the region.” (What the F does Hadley call what’s going on NOW?! Most Iraqis feel they will be safer and better off once WE LEAVE their country!)
LIE: “Iran would be emboldened and could be expected to provide more lethal aid for extremist groups.” (Iran is an ALLY to Iraq’s Govt and their Prime Minister al-Maliki. Iran is largely a country of Shiite Muslims – the same sect which controls most of Iraq’s Govt. Instability in Iraq DOES NOT ‘benefit’ nor ‘embolden’ Iran)
LIE: “The new plan for Baghdad specifically corrects the problems that plagued previous efforts.” (The Joint Chiefs, ‘The Generals on the Ground’, the majority IN the Military, the Iraq Study Group have all shown how this is nonsense and a very bad decision)
LIE: “There will be adequate forces (Iraqi and American) to hold neighborhoods cleared of terrorists and extremists.” (The Joint Chiefs and many Military Leaders and Commanders said a force of 21,000 troops is futile and in fact, dangerous)
LIE: “There is a new operational concept — one devised not just to pursue terrorists and extremists but to secure the population” (This is ALL about more of ‘Stay the Course’ without making changes-which would acknowledge their multiple, endless failures)
LIE: “Security operations will be followed by economic assistance and reconstruction aid — including billions of dollars in Iraqi funds — offering jobs and the prospect of better lives” (We’ve heard that BS from the get go, when do they EVER keep their word. The ‘reconstruction’ has been largely about incompetent cronies who either don’t complete their projects, but get paid or do shoddy work – that has often had to be subsequently demolished. Case in point: The ‘Iraqi Police Academy’ that was literally raining down feces and urine into the recruits rooms. “Better lives”? That’s is what Iraqis feel will happen WHEN WE LEAVE. Right now, many are too terrified to go to work, school, the gas station, market, etc…)
LIE: “Any plan that limits our ability to reinforce our troops in the field is a plan for failure — and could hand Baghdad to terrorists and extremists before legitimate Iraqi forces are ready to take over the fight.” (See Joint Chiefs, Military, Gen. Casey, Gen. Abizaid, Republicans such as Colin Powell, John Warner and Chuck Hagel who ALL disagree with Hadley’s claim)
LIE: “These civilian-led units will target development aid where it is needed and help the Iraqi government extend its reach to all corners of the country.” (Last time they said this, BILLIONS of reconstruction dollars went missing)
LIE: “The new strategy incorporates other essential elements of the Baker-Hamilton report, such as doubling the number of troops embedded with Iraqi forces, using benchmarks to help us and the Iraqis chart progress, and launching a renewed diplomatic effort to increase support for the Iraqi government and advance political reconciliation.” (SHEER BULLSHIT. The Bush Admin rejected most all of the ISG findings and scolded members for disagreeing with the lil’ Dictator’s supposed “Plan”. The ISG MEMBERS AGREED THAT WE SHOULD NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH IRAQ’S NEIGHBORS: IRAN AND SYRIA – NOT BOMB THEM/START WARS WITH THEM.)
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