A Drudge preview: “NYT: Bush executive order gives president much greater control over rules to regulate public health, safety, environment, civil rights, privacy, other issues…”
UPDATE: NYT:
In an executive order published last week in the Federal Register, Mr. Bush said that each agency must have a regulatory policy office run by a political appointee, to supervise the development of rules and documents providing guidance to regulated industries. The White House will thus have a gatekeeper in each agency to analyze the costs and the benefits of new rules and to make sure the agencies carry out the president’s priorities.
This strengthens the hand of the White House in shaping rules that have, in the past, often been generated by civil servants and scientific experts. It suggests that the administration still has ways to exert its power after the takeover of Congress by the Democrats.
Thank God, I am so glad our beloved President will help guide our people in the path of the rightousness.
Daryll
January 29th, 2007 at 8:18 pmWhat is this order? Why isn’t it in the news?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:21 pmBut it’s DRUDGE!!
Ok, I’ll hold my nose and go over there. Send someone if I’m not back in 5 minutes….
January 29th, 2007 at 8:23 pmUgh! Gross!
Faiz, Drudge’s “link” doesn’t work.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:26 pmGot a better one? You must….
ZOOEY!!!! We are getting worried……… do we need to get the jaws of life progressive extractor ready along with some major disinfectant?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:27 pmWHICH EXECUTIVE ORDER????
And can you not at least post a link to an actual story???
Right now all you’ve got is hyperbole!!! This is beginning to look like the on-line equivalent of the National Enquirer!
January 29th, 2007 at 8:27 pmupside00,
Just the disinfectant — and a wire brush. Thanks. Ick.
Here’s a link to the White House siting executive orders signed:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/orders/
I don’t see it, but it could be hidden.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:30 pmnow that is enough to make me PUKE
LISTEN… are you kidding me trust George Bush
for my civil liberties. the amount of damage
george bush is doing to the average person
is unbelieveable. ABSOLUTELY…. politics
are TOTALLY CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh ya…. for all the wonderful services we all
supposely desperately need… ALL CORRUPTED!!!!
Rigged ya know… snake oil
and we are now to surrender MORE rights to Bush
NOW…. IF 80% OF THE PEOPLE WANT US OUT OF
IRAQ AND WELL OVER 50% WANT HIM IMPEACHED
WHY ISN’T HE GETTING IMPEACHED???
BECAUSE CONGRESS IS CORRUPT, POLITICS ARE
TOTALLY CORRUPT
AND WE SUPPOSELY GET ALL THESE WONDERFUL
January 29th, 2007 at 8:31 pmSERVICES… YA RIGHT TRY TO GET THEM (BET YOU
CAN’T)… THEY SERVE THE PEOPLE ALL RIGHT
Exactly how does a president give himself new powers? And why didnt the previous presidents give themselves all the powers bush is now claiming?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pmthat is YOUR going to trust george bush to
execute services for you.. just look at the
fiasco in calif. with electricity nor infact anything
bush has done to serve you and it’s ALL corrupt
unless of course you donated $100,000 to him.
george bush is/almost the worst president EVER
and same goes with the totally corrupt 109th congress
guess politics as usual from nixon forward and getting
January 29th, 2007 at 8:34 pmmore corrupt
#9.. the way he gets more power is by arm twisting ya know
January 29th, 2007 at 8:38 pmwith the lawmakers… oh just SO much honesty, integrity, ya
know the trusted sacred servants who are in that position
appointed because god knows they better than you do for
all of our lives, like protecting us and serving us, and giving
us a professional managed economy… ya know infrastructure
Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 13285, Relating to the President’s Council on Service and Civic Participation
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to extend the President’s Council on Service and Civic Participation, it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 13285 of January 29, 2003, as amended, is further amended by revising section 4(b) to read as follows: “(b) Unless further extended by the President, this order shall expire on November 30, 2008.”
GEORGE W. BUSH
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 26, 2007.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:39 pm“NYT: Bush executive order gives president much greater control over rules to regulate public health, safety, environment, civil rights, privacy, other issues…â€
Pretty much the same rights and liberties as any other banana republic dictator. And he would like to make us his subjects.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:41 pmThat is the only Executive Order passed today? Appears to be crap. Nothing on NY Time.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:42 pmThis is beginning to look like the on-line equivalent of the National Enquirer!
Comment by The Ghost of NineJuanJuan
You’re right. TP needs to do better than Drudge. Unless it’s updated with a reliable link, I’d say this is a dead thread.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:42 pmIf that blurb on Drudge’s puke website is correct, tomorrow is going to be a fun day.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:43 pm#12 – JTitor,
Can you interpret that?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pmIf that blurb on Drudge’s puke website is correct, tomorrow is going to be a fun day.
Comment by midwestblue
Oh, I forgot the “Tuesday” part…sorry.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:46 pmI would not presume to know the mind of Matt Drudge, however this looks like a real sleeper to me:
Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 12866 on Regulatory Planning and Review
2006
The main part of this is an obnoxious time-waster that will likely kludge up the works, even though, or because, what it mandates, is nigh unto impossible if taken seriously. Excuse me, I’m getting much too much practice on mental backfists at the moment.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:46 pmHere is the order in question.
Here’s a response by Public Citizen, and here’s a commentary by Georgetown Law Professor Lisa Heinzerling.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:47 pmThe full story will be in the NYT Tuesday — sometimes, we can get it on line in the midwest after 11PM.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:49 pmSounds like the boy-king is taking more for himself from the table of American freedoms.
So, they want to make sure that the Democrat who takes over doesn’t have this same power.
January 29th, 2007 at 8:50 pm#20,
January 29th, 2007 at 8:51 pmI didn’t see that you have it all here. Thanks for that.
This is too frightening. He can wreak havoc everywhere before he leaves office.
And they are afraid of him why. It’s time to IMPEACH
January 29th, 2007 at 8:52 pmDid someone say “dead thread”, Yay, party time, ya ya, whooooooaaaaaaa….. bing bing ,, bong, bing…
January 29th, 2007 at 8:54 pmThis is an ammendment to an EO to promote volunteer service and civic participation in American society. Appears Drudge has suckerd TP, or the EO hasn’t been signed yet? Can’t find a link on Drudge’s page, and nothing I can see NY Times. Seems TP would have been more specific?
January 29th, 2007 at 8:58 pm#20 – Thanks for that, Bob Shull.
GWB is seizing power he has no right to, stopping up information, reducing government’s power to protect us, and generally gumming up the works with bureaucracy.
This shit has got to stop.
Sorry Truth, no dead thread.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:00 pm“NYT: Bush executive order gives president much greater control over rules to regulate public health, safety, environment, civil rights, privacy, other issues…â€
January 29th, 2007 at 9:07 pmNot to be too sarcastic, but hasn’t he been doing Crap like this for years??
Awe crap no dead thread.
We all GWB is determined to do whatever he wants to. He has the tools and resources at his disposal. I remember talk of what a cornered animal would do. Well, here it is.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:08 pm#
Here is the order in question.
Here’s a response by Public Citizen, and here’s a commentary by Georgetown Law Professor Lisa Heinzerling.
Comment by Bob Shull – Public Citizen — January 29, 2007 @ 8:47 pm\
Thanks for posting these links. Seems to me that we need to look at the Constitutional authority for a President to promulgate Executive Orders. Where do we go from here to determine whether or not such orders are Constitutional, or in what instances they would be considered to be so?
January 29th, 2007 at 9:08 pmThe forming of a United States Dictator. Next he’ll order that Congress and the Senate have no say in running the country. The United States is overdue for the impeachment of George W. Bush.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:13 pmSo Bushy gets to decide if the problem is worth addressing. Just like he gets to decide if you don’t get Habeus Corpus. He is the decider you know. How far is the boy king going to go before he is stopped?
January 29th, 2007 at 9:13 pm“Executive Order: Further Amendment to Executive Order 13285, Relating to the President’s Council on Service and Civic Participation”
And just where is my Civic Particpation in this order….hmmm?
January 29th, 2007 at 9:14 pmAs well it appears to put federal mandates over states rights as well…..All you conservatives out there argue this one.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:21 pmthanks for posting the
“more info” threads Bob Shull .
reposted them elsewhere and it helped.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:22 pmThe president “delegated” more powers to himself?!
January 29th, 2007 at 9:27 pmHow far is the boy king going to go before he is stopped?
Comment by ForTruth
With the question oif our time ( literally ) being, just how to stop him.
Don`t they put a President into fulltime ” protective custody ” when there numbers fall below a certain level?
I could have sworn I read that once but cannot remember where.
It said that a President goes into a virtual ” deathwatch ” by his SS staff and others when the numbers get below a certain point and stay there.
DeathWatch meaning assassination squads out to get him/them.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:28 pmi’m guessing some of you fols are new to the “wonderful world of executive orders”. heres an interesting aspect of them… getting air time on the radio shows to discuss them is near impossible.
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Here are just a few Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.
EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:28 pm#18 Zooey–I hope it’s right–that’ll cause some heartburn for those slimeballs slithering around the White House.
January 29th, 2007 at 9:29 pmI hope it’s right–that’ll cause some heartburn for those slimeballs slithering around the White House.
Comment by midwestblue
I know it will cause heartburn for the rest of us…
January 29th, 2007 at 9:35 pmhttp://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=61381
(2003)
Corporation for National and Community Services (CNCS)
Began in 1983
Strategic Plan
[Strategic Plan] On February 8, 2006, the Corporation for National and Community Service released its Strategic Plan for 2006-2010. The plan, which benefited from extensive public input, is a blueprint for increasing the effectiveness of the Corporation’s programs and operations, and for defining the unique role that national service can play in building a culture of citizenship, service, and responsibility in America.
http://www.nationalservice.org/about/newsroom/statements_detail.asp?tbl_pr_id=250
David Eisner CEO of this ‘Corporation’
Seems they want 75 million volunteers for ‘National Service’ under the Direction of Eisner.
These people apparently were to help after Katrina. (we see today that this is a privatized government corporate volunteer failure) Heres a story.
http://www.cns.gov/for_individuals/current/stories.asp
AmeriCorps – Elena Velkov
AmeriCorps*NCCC – St. Bernard Parish, LA
When my team leader announced that we would be spending two months in St. Bernard Parish house gutting, I didn’t see a single smiling face in the room. My teammates looked stunned, disturbed, apprehensive, and some on the verge of tears. Even those who had wanted a disaster project had an air of anxiety about them. We were understandably nervous about our mental health due to disaster conditions in the New Orleans area. We would be surrounded by destruction, living in uncomfortable conditions, and have virtually no privacy. Then, we got the blow that our time in disaster would be extended from two months to two phases.
Our first night at Camp Premier, a FEMA base camp, did not ease our minds. At first sight, Camp Premier is, in a word, depressing. It’s next door to what’s rumored to be the nation’s largest smokestack, belonging to an oil refinery. The stack is painfully visible from every part of camp. And, our grounds used to be a toxic dump, so we shower in trailers and only have access to Porto Potties. We live in M*A*S*H-like army tents that the wind rattles and rain pounds so loudly that we have to scream to be able to hear each other during the seasonal storms. There is little grass and virtually no plants; instead, there is gravel. Perhaps, I can best explain our reaction to Camp Premier by saying that four of my teammates cried within their first 20 minutes of arrival.
And, in no way can I do justice delineating the spellbinding destruction that we encounter daily. It looks like the storm hit yesterday. Driving to camp, we pass a sight where the storms threw three homes into the middle of a street, each one smashed against the next. Mold is everywhere, and water line marks come to my head. The homes are branded in spray paint to indicate how many people authorities found dead. And it’s not just what we see; the area has a poignant feel. It’s like a ghost town.
So they want 75 million volunteers (you get to eat I suppose)
Yall will have to decide for yourself about this program. From the websites it sounds all hunky dory, but then….
January 29th, 2007 at 9:37 pm“fols” was supposed to be “folks”
January 29th, 2007 at 9:39 pmCheney / rove want to shut down the government’s ability to regulate business, protect the environment, and generally enforce regulations in order to protect citizens and establish it in the WH.
If congress doesn’t step up and yell “ENOUGH, you son of a bitch,” then we will have to march on Washington, D.C!
January 29th, 2007 at 9:46 pmLink doesn’t work (gee, what a surprise)! Sounds like another Drudge Fantasy or hallucination. I checked other news sites like WaPo, CNN and MSNBC but, no dice. Where does he dream up this s**t?
January 29th, 2007 at 9:49 pmJim,
See #20
January 29th, 2007 at 10:00 pmSupreme court, helllooooooo pay attention!
January 29th, 2007 at 10:01 pmThanks Zooey! At the risk of stating the obvious does this look like a showdown with the Congress and the Surpreme Court? If it is I have to re-think my position on Impeachment of Bush. Previously, I was against it but with this kind of potential violation of the Constitution in the works it seems ievitable to me now tht thats were are heading. Any thoughts on this people?
January 29th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI’ve seen two Impeachments in my life now. Nixon when I was 18 and of course Clintons, which was a farce of the first order. Looks like its coming again
January 29th, 2007 at 10:12 pmIMPEACH THIS PH*CKING BASTARD!!!!
NOW!!!
Just so I’m not lectured to…
CONFICT THIS PH*CKING BASTARD (“in the Senate with a 67% voteâ€) !!!!
NOW!!!
January 29th, 2007 at 10:14 pmThanks Sunshine Jim,
That was a heck of a lot of sunshine you had there.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:20 pmThey better be ready to face a lot of angry-assed people with the right to bear arms.
Lets not get to tin-foiled out here. Poeple have to keep working, paying taxes, and buying Chinese crap. We have to be free to do those things.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:22 pmTanks,
glad to be of service,
had two other posts that
have’nt showed up yet though.
Raw Story has the story and it’s in Big Red Font so this has to be serious….
MASSIVE NYT FRONTPAGE TUESDAY: BUSH SIGNS ORDER GIVING HIM GREATER CONTROL OVER ENVIRONMENT, CIVIL RIGHTS, PRIVACY… DEVELOPING….
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/NY_Times_Bush_gives_White_House_0129.html
January 29th, 2007 at 10:24 pmso we presently have (or at least pretend to) a separation of church and state . . . a few more things like this and i’ll start hoping for a separation between politics and state.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:29 pmhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16876033/
January 29th, 2007 at 10:33 pmHe is definetly heading for a showdown with the Congress and the Courts.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pmI hesitate to write this but can the revivaal of the Alien and Sedition Acts be far behind? With this kind of power he won’t have even go to the Congress. It can be done by Exzecutive Order.
This hase been known for 10 days. Why does it take so long to hear about it from the MSM?
January 29th, 2007 at 10:37 pmhe is seizing power.
He first stacked the supreme court. Then he had gonzalez fire DA’s against him and hire DA’s loyal to the adminitsration. He thhe claims the final say of all regulartory policy. Anwar, naitonal parks, logging in natinaal forrest, sale of publics lands, healthcare, pharma companies, I could go on.
He is castrating congress by doing this. These were all things that have been traditionly overseen by congress, with the president meerly voicing his opinoin. And when his expanded powers are challanged as a breach of seperation of powers, the supreme court sides with him as it has been stacked, claiming he is within the laws as they stand. Any local dissenters are quickly swept up by the new prosecutors as now privacy is no longer an issue and everything becomes fair game. Now, being the sole person with any real power, the era of the empire finally begins.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pm#38 – Sunshine Jim – thanks very much for the info. I’ve heard about some of these Executive Orders, but I have a few questions. Number one, is if they have expiration dates. Secondly, once again, the Constitutional authority for creating these. It seems extraordinary to me that one President could create an Executive Order that would have continuing power for an infinate time?
January 29th, 2007 at 10:54 pmNixon was never impeached. He resigned.
January 29th, 2007 at 10:57 pm#59 Thats right. My bad! The House did pass the Articles of Impeachment. Nixon then resigned in disgrace before facing trial in the Senate
January 29th, 2007 at 10:59 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act
January 29th, 2007 at 11:15 pm38.
Sunshine Jim.
Do you think the Bush aim here is to squelch national protests? And when I say national, I mean like 20-30 million angry and rallying protesters.
What is he preparing for I guess is my question. And why this sense of urgency on his part as always to get as much of this kind of thing signed into law and authorized as quickly as possible.
What would be the logical thinking here to get all of these ducks in a row and so expediantly, I guess is what I am trying to ask.
What possibly could be awaiting us with all of these
” martial laws ” ??
I will check back in in a little while for a possible reply. Thank you in advance Sunshine Jim.
Anyone have any ideas of what will come of all these laws?
January 29th, 2007 at 11:18 pmTheir catalyst for enacting?
Their true purpose?
Why and when would they be enacted?
Congress created Administrative Agencies. Congress can set the parameters of their operations.
Republicans can filibuster any attempt at restricting Bush’s grasp for unlimited power.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWhat’s the big deal? Weren’t you guys reporting before the November elections that Bush was looking for ways of going around Congress by using the Administrative Agency’s regulation making powers?
I mean, gee wiz…if the President can’t run his own Agencies the way he wants to, what’s the use of being a President? You all should just git off his back and let him run the country. Lord knows that’s a tough enough job.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:53 pmLord knows that’s a tough enough job.
Comment by barney fife
Exactly, not like a black woman with three jobs to prevent being evicted.
January 29th, 2007 at 11:59 pmJuan,
With a name like barney fife, I hope he’s being sarcastic. :)
But you’re right — that’s a tough job.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:04 ambarney fife ——you are no American
January 30th, 2007 at 12:05 amI mean, gee wiz…if the President can’t run his own Agencies the way he wants to, what’s the use of being a President? You all should just git off his back and let him run the country. Lord knows that’s a tough enough job.
Comment by barney fife — January 29, 2007
Well, when the “executive order” involves giving the executive branch more control over “civil rights and privacy”, there is IMO very much to be alarmed about.
Whatever happened to “government by the people, for the people”?
January 30th, 2007 at 12:06 amWhy do you think Bush has taken Federal control of the National Gaurd that has been under the province of the states? Why all the Haliberton built detention camps?
HMM?
This is no Democracy anymore. I don’t know if we have time any longer to turn this around. It is time to take serious steps to remove him …..and quickly. VERY QUICKLY
January 30th, 2007 at 12:08 amWhatever happened to “government by the people, for the people�
Comment by JPV — January 30, 2007 @ 12:06 am
I thought it was “government by the dollar, for the dollar” – did my daily talking points not come through again? Damn fax machine
January 30th, 2007 at 12:09 amIt suggests that the administration still has ways to exert its power after the takeover of Congress by the Democrats.
no, really… WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE ?!?
i want my government back… i want my country back…
good night… and good luck…
January 30th, 2007 at 12:15 am.
Can Congress not fund these people’s pay? Of course most of them don’t a salary, they get payments from other GOP sources.
Bribes anyone?
January 30th, 2007 at 12:16 amDo you think with the next executive order bush will make himself dictator…looks like it doesn’t it. This congress had better show him they are in charge when it comes to stoping this war.
If they pass a resolution to end it and say he can’t invade Iran, he won’t be able to…he can not directly violate the constitution. HE CAN BE ARRESTED FOR TREASON…WHY IN THE HELL DOESN’T CONGRESS GET ON THE BALL. WHY DO THEY THINK THEY WERE ELECTED…TO STOP BUSH………………………….
January 30th, 2007 at 12:25 amWell, when the “executive order†involves giving the executive branch more control over “civil rights and privacyâ€, there is IMO very much to be alarmed about.
Whatever happened to “government by the people, for the people�
Comment by JPV
Now why would (1) one, person in the executive branch that happens to be the CEO of that branch, why would he be so interested in having control of our ” civil rights and privacy ”
A member of the Executive branch, why is he so interested in controlling our civil rights and privacy. Hmm. That`s odd.
The only other entity in the world that I know of who is in the executive brach of power and is this interested in the personal privacy and civil rights of its citizens is a country that is run by a lone dictator.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:31 amthere were some questions,
first off, as far as i know those exec orders i posted have never been signed but are always there ready to go.
next i think # 57 is pretty close to figgering it out based on what’s been slid under the table in the last six years.
i don’t know what congress can do theoretically or in reality. it depends on how many good military and police people have stayed around. theres been a real change in both in the same period.
biggest prob is that theres a whole buncha peeps that have no idea that any of this is going on thanks to a totally compromised US media.
my opinion?
george and the “Boyz” are dancing to someone elses tunes.
the Mil/Ind/Big medicine/Insurance/Global Banking/Etc. complex are so blinded by greed they refuse to even look at it as a problem.
we are in the middle of a class/race war and they intend to wipe us out.
love ya all. any other questions?
January 30th, 2007 at 12:32 amThese guys are trying to commit suicide-by-cop, but no cops are shooting them….
Impeach
January 30th, 2007 at 12:42 amConvict
Incarcerate
Bush should sign an ececutive order to have himself committed to an insane asylum!
January 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amexecutive order > typo error in my last post.
January 30th, 2007 at 12:58 amDid my post just get deleted? wtf…
January 30th, 2007 at 1:06 amGuys, he is NOT going to get impeached. They are setting the country up for an eventual dictatorship.
Wake up!
January 30th, 2007 at 1:29 amWell it took them a year to turn Iraq into a failed state and hell hole. They have two years left to do the same to the US.
January 30th, 2007 at 1:58 amGuys, he is NOT going to get impeached. They are setting the country up for an eventual dictatorship.
Wake up!
Comment by JPV
Yep. All it will take is one national ” incident ” and we have a dictator for life, signed,sealed and all delivered,nice and legal like what with Bush`s maneuvering of the court.
Except in this case the Bush`s would pass power down amongst the brothers.
Neil, Jeb, Marvin…..The Twins Eventually?
Oh my God. The Bush Monarchy. With power traded amongst the immediate family.
Just like in a real dictatorship.
Hey… scratches head…wait a minute!
JPV is RIGHT.
I am assuming here that the only way to get someone like him out of office by means other than term limit expiration would be impeachment or physical removal from office.
Otherwise, he could stage an ” incident ” at any time before the 2008 elections and enact all of those EOs and just assume command until hell freezes over as far as the Bush`s are concerned.
This is what they want and will not be letting go of I am fearing.
The suspension of elections until further notice. The booting of the Democrats from government.
All of the members are in place in both houses of congress for the government to continue to operate beyond 2008.
A ” staged ” incident would be the excuse to enact suspension of elections and all of the other EOs before the 2008 elections.
I don`t look for Bush or the present Republicans in government to be going anywhere beyond 2008
A ” staged ” incident would provide the cover to make this a reality.
Or a huge war with IRAN.
Take your pick.
January 30th, 2007 at 2:17 amnah, that’s what they’re hoping you’ll buy.
it’s all a scam, an incredible propaganda effort mainly.
we can change, and do whether we like it or not actually,
and each one of us has to strive to make positive changes.
i’d say to keep in mind the progress we have made,
and the fact that this is unraveling for them.
get the word out to those around you.
that’s the best way to handle this.
grassroots organising works.
January 30th, 2007 at 2:43 ampower never gives up anything voluntarily,
we have got to organize and fight and resist
January 30th, 2007 at 2:59 am5 Minutes to Midnight and counting
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So basically, he’s installed Political Officers, a la the Soviet Union.
Right, left, totalitarianism is all the same.
January 30th, 2007 at 7:03 amSee, they were busy changing all the rules for the last six years to further enhance their powers. Dictatorship, here we come.
January 30th, 2007 at 7:36 amWhich is to say, if you will pardon the gloating tone; didn’t the left tell the right so back when America was still on the Patriot Act?
January 30th, 2007 at 8:16 amI think I speak for all of humanity when I say:
Shnoodlecakes.
We’re giving a madman the power to deny a larger group of deliberating madmen and women.
What the crap happened? Wake up, America.
January 30th, 2007 at 8:23 amUnder the old “Evil Empire” (Soviet Union) these people were called commissars. Their job was to make sure reality,common sense,science or truth is subserviant to what is deemed poliically correct by the administration. Just another piece of evidence on the continued trashing of our freedoms. By the way, Haliburton detention facilities seem like another example of lifting ideas from the book of Stalin-the gulags.
January 30th, 2007 at 9:05 amOK, so in ‘08 when a Democratic president is elected, let’s see how much Bush likes it!
January 30th, 2007 at 9:19 am“You’re right. TP needs to do better than Drudge. Unless it’s updated with a reliable link, I’d say this is a dead thread.”
I’ve gotta say that comments from some seem right on insofar as I can’t find what all the hubub is about. I have provided the link to Thinkprogress to a conservative friend who is becoming disillusioned with the fourth reich and looking for alternatives to the spoon feb lies. Could Thinkprogress maybe provide more info than indicating that Drudge posted something?
Thinkprogress is making me look bad. How about some substance to the mudslinging?
January 30th, 2007 at 10:07 amThis is sick. How much more will the American people have to take before we impeach this bastard?
January 30th, 2007 at 10:58 amThe next move is to have a Party Officer on every aircraft carrier and submarine, and along with every Army command post (as long as it’s in the Green Zone, of course). Replace generals with ones who toe the party line (oh wait, that’s been done)…
January 30th, 2007 at 11:12 amOops my bad, I missed the link.
January 30th, 2007 at 11:36 amMy earlier post has been removed…
Is TP having admin / filter / hacker issues again?
January 30th, 2007 at 11:42 amIMPEACH.
January 30th, 2007 at 6:52 pmTP, don’t let this story die! There is a lot at stake here and Congressinoal oversight is badly needed. So far, only the House Science Committee has scheduled a hearing. The Senate needs to do its part. Here’s a link highlighting the major problems.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:08 pmPlease do a hard-hitting blog and keep this story in the news cycle.