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	<title>Comments on: Rockefeller on Bush&#8217;s NSA Shift: &#8216;Unacceptable,&#8217; &#8216;I Can&#8217;t Trust What They&#8217;re Doing&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1631534</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 01:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>21- Didn&#039;t you see Rockefeller sucking up to General Casey in the Senate hearings this past week?  When are Democrats going to realize Democrat politicians are out to butter their own bread?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>21- Didn&#8217;t you see Rockefeller sucking up to General Casey in the Senate hearings this past week?  When are Democrats going to realize Democrat politicians are out to butter their own bread?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1631534', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott Malensek</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1576035</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Malensek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2007 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was Senator Rockefeller&#039;s oversight of intel back in 2002 when he was head of the Sen Intel Com the last time?

&quot;There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.&quot; 
  - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

Was the intelligence that he was responsible for overseeing weak, limited, fabricated?  Why didn&#039;t he oversee it then?  

When it comes to intel, people believe either Bush lied re 911, Iraq, etc., or they believe what all the investigations have found: weak and limited intel-not fabricated, pressured, etc., but in both cases, up until 2003, it was Sen Rockefeller&#039;s job to make sure the intel communities had what they needed to do their jobs, were doing their jobs, had good leaders, and were providing good intel products.  

He didn&#039;t do his job.

Those who believe all those investigations into the Bush Lied theories that claim it was bad intel believe Sen Rockefeller&#039;s just covering his butt.  At the very least, L and R should agree that this man failed in his duties which resulted in 911, war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and around the world, and now we&#039;re supposed to trust HIM rather than hold him accountable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was Senator Rockefeller&#8217;s oversight of intel back in 2002 when he was head of the Sen Intel Com the last time?</p>
<p>&#8220;There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years &#8230; We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.&#8221;<br />
  &#8211; Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002</p>
<p>Was the intelligence that he was responsible for overseeing weak, limited, fabricated?  Why didn&#8217;t he oversee it then?  </p>
<p>When it comes to intel, people believe either Bush lied re 911, Iraq, etc., or they believe what all the investigations have found: weak and limited intel-not fabricated, pressured, etc., but in both cases, up until 2003, it was Sen Rockefeller&#8217;s job to make sure the intel communities had what they needed to do their jobs, were doing their jobs, had good leaders, and were providing good intel products.  </p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t do his job.</p>
<p>Those who believe all those investigations into the Bush Lied theories that claim it was bad intel believe Sen Rockefeller&#8217;s just covering his butt.  At the very least, L and R should agree that this man failed in his duties which resulted in 911, war in Afghanistan, Iraq, and around the world, and now we&#8217;re supposed to trust HIM rather than hold him accountable?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1576035', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: StupidGit</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1571624</link>
		<dc:creator>StupidGit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 23:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by bs â€” January 29, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

Thanks for posting that. He may have good intentions in what he does but that doesn&#039;t mean he&#039;s right in advocating a One World Order. At least, not one controlled by banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by bs â€” January 29, 2007 @ 2:03 pm</p>
<p>Thanks for posting that. He may have good intentions in what he does but that doesn&#8217;t mean he&#8217;s right in advocating a One World Order. At least, not one controlled by banks.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1571624', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bluestocking</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1570830</link>
		<dc:creator>Bluestocking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 21:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve said this before, and I&#039;ll say it again...Rockefeller is only realizing all this &lt;em&gt;now?!?&lt;/em&gt;  Where the hell has he &lt;em&gt;been&lt;/em&gt; for the past five-odd years?  Under a rock?  On a deserted island?  (Well, I know he represents West Virginia -- but West Virginia only &lt;em&gt;seems&lt;/em&gt; like a deserted island, so that doesn&#039;t really count!)  OK, OK -- he should at least get some credit for saying it, but this doesn&#039;t change the fact that those people who&#039;ve been paying attention have been saying the same thing for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve said this before, and I&#8217;ll say it again&#8230;Rockefeller is only realizing all this <em>now?!?</em>  Where the hell has he <em>been</em> for the past five-odd years?  Under a rock?  On a deserted island?  (Well, I know he represents West Virginia &#8212; but West Virginia only <em>seems</em> like a deserted island, so that doesn&#8217;t really count!)  OK, OK &#8212; he should at least get some credit for saying it, but this doesn&#8217;t change the fact that those people who&#8217;ve been paying attention have been saying the same thing for years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1570830', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 20:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go to &lt;strong&gt;Findlaw.com &lt;/strong&gt; 1/26/07 and read John Dean&#039;s latest dissection of AG Gonzales&#039; testimony before the Senate Committee.  We all know AG made a fool of himself --  Dean explains how it is even worse in a legal sense.  Pathetic.  Worthy of disbarment at worst, his resignation at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go to <strong>Findlaw.com </strong> 1/26/07 and read John Dean&#8217;s latest dissection of AG Gonzales&#8217; testimony before the Senate Committee.  We all know AG made a fool of himself &#8212;  Dean explains how it is even worse in a legal sense.  Pathetic.  Worthy of disbarment at worst, his resignation at best.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1570389', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dot connector</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569845</link>
		<dc:creator>dot connector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely after the &lt;em&gt;second&lt;/em&gt; time &lt;a href=&quot;http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush made voluntary revealing incriminating witness statements regarding how he first learned about 9/11&lt;/a&gt;, all honest Democrats would have asked questions and demanded answers of Bush.

Actually, they all did --  It just turns out that &lt;strong&gt;THERE ARE NO HONEST DEMOCRATS&lt;/strong&gt;, as evidenced by the fact that, more than 5 years later, &lt;strong&gt;NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS EVER ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTIONS&lt;/strong&gt; (which is the best way of guaranteeing that they never get the right anwsers, so they never have to do anything about Bush&#039;s treason).

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

So, hearing a &lt;strong&gt;Rockefeller&lt;/strong&gt; say that he can&#039;t trust what &#039;they&#039; are doing is &lt;strong&gt;disinformation&lt;/strong&gt;, for it falsely implies that 1)Rockefeller wouldn&#039;t let &quot;them&quot; get away with anything (ha!), and 2)that we can trust a Rockefeller (ha!).

metanoia - the unreasonable belief that somewhere out there, someone you don&#039;t know is out to do you good

democrat - &lt;a href=&quot;http://911u.org/CoDR/graphics/2heads,sameMonster.gif&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the other head of the same monster&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely after the <em>second</em> time <a href="http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml" rel="nofollow">Bush made voluntary revealing incriminating witness statements regarding how he first learned about 9/11</a>, all honest Democrats would have asked questions and demanded answers of Bush.</p>
<p>Actually, they all did &#8212;  It just turns out that <strong>THERE ARE NO HONEST DEMOCRATS</strong>, as evidenced by the fact that, more than 5 years later, <strong>NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS EVER ASKED THE RIGHT QUESTIONS</strong> (which is the best way of guaranteeing that they never get the right anwsers, so they never have to do anything about Bush&#8217;s treason).</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://911blimp.net/aud_BushImplicatesBush.shtml</a></strong></p>
<p>So, hearing a <strong>Rockefeller</strong> say that he can&#8217;t trust what &#8216;they&#8217; are doing is <strong>disinformation</strong>, for it falsely implies that 1)Rockefeller wouldn&#8217;t let &#8220;them&#8221; get away with anything (ha!), and 2)that we can trust a Rockefeller (ha!).</p>
<p>metanoia &#8211; the unreasonable belief that somewhere out there, someone you don&#8217;t know is out to do you good</p>
<p>democrat &#8211; <a href="http://911u.org/CoDR/graphics/2heads,sameMonster.gif" rel="nofollow">the other head of the same monster</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569845', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Publicus

Excellent!</description>
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<p>Excellent!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569783', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 19:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quote from David Rockefeller&#039;s autobiography &#039;Memoirs&#039; -
6-11-6

&quot;For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as &#039;internationalists&#039; and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. 


If that&#039;s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quote from David Rockefeller&#8217;s autobiography &#8216;Memoirs&#8217; -<br />
6-11-6</p>
<p>&#8220;For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as &#8216;internationalists&#8217; and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure &#8211; one world, if you will. </p>
<p>If that&#8217;s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569766', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Publicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush repeatedly said that a wiretap requires a warrant while he was getting warrantless wiretaps.

Believing him now is...unwarranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush repeatedly said that a wiretap requires a warrant while he was getting warrantless wiretaps.</p>
<p>Believing him now is&#8230;unwarranted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569749', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should i say the &#039;reich&#039; way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>should i say the &#8216;reich&#8217; way<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569733', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: bs</title>
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		<dc:creator>bs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gonzo is a cronie and was bought and paid for.  of course, the supreme court, bushwhacks nuts are going to jingle the right way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gonzo is a cronie and was bought and paid for.  of course, the supreme court, bushwhacks nuts are going to jingle the right way.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#10.....Let the individuals with proof of the offense prevail!  And, they will!!

Let the &quot;whistleblowers&quot; sing, as they have been and we won&#039;t have to wait another two years to see these guys get their just desserts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#10&#8230;..Let the individuals with proof of the offense prevail!  And, they will!!</p>
<p>Let the &#8220;whistleblowers&#8221; sing, as they have been and we won&#8217;t have to wait another two years to see these guys get their just desserts.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569502', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: veritas</title>
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		<dc:creator>veritas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang on here just a minute - who advised them that warrantless wiretapping was a &quot;legitimate way to protect the country&quot;??  If it was Gonzo, he&#039;s bonzo as his judicial opinions have proven to be faulty and/or bogus.  I don&#039;t believe NSA could usurp the constitutional right of the people (or if they evean can by law??) and tell Bushco he can violate people&#039;s constitutional guarantees when there is a NSA protocol already in place.....and this protocol clearly allows wiretapping in advance of a warrant provided that a warrant is applied for within 72 hours....which is a very long time and no reason to have problem with this UNLESS THE WIRETAPPING WOULD BE REJECTED BY NSA AND/OR WOULD BE ON POLITICAL FOES AND INNOCENT CITIZENS!

Why else would they be quaking in their boots right now to get NSA to grant them &quot;after the fact absolution&quot; for something they have been doing which clearly is criminal and in violation of the laws in place for this situation and the constitution of this country?  

Could it be because it&#039;s another case, like the rendition of prisons for torture in other countries, where they are scurrying around to cover their guilty arsses??  Presume it!

The number of &quot;high crimes and misdemeanors&quot; is mounting day by day and this corrupt administration will take itself down before long.  Wait until Cheney&#039;s &quot;deep involvement&quot; with the outing of a covert CIA agent gets into full disclosure - it&#039;s going to &quot;stink up Penna Avenue&quot; like a garbage barge!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang on here just a minute &#8211; who advised them that warrantless wiretapping was a &#8220;legitimate way to protect the country&#8221;??  If it was Gonzo, he&#8217;s bonzo as his judicial opinions have proven to be faulty and/or bogus.  I don&#8217;t believe NSA could usurp the constitutional right of the people (or if they evean can by law??) and tell Bushco he can violate people&#8217;s constitutional guarantees when there is a NSA protocol already in place&#8230;..and this protocol clearly allows wiretapping in advance of a warrant provided that a warrant is applied for within 72 hours&#8230;.which is a very long time and no reason to have problem with this UNLESS THE WIRETAPPING WOULD BE REJECTED BY NSA AND/OR WOULD BE ON POLITICAL FOES AND INNOCENT CITIZENS!</p>
<p>Why else would they be quaking in their boots right now to get NSA to grant them &#8220;after the fact absolution&#8221; for something they have been doing which clearly is criminal and in violation of the laws in place for this situation and the constitution of this country?  </p>
<p>Could it be because it&#8217;s another case, like the rendition of prisons for torture in other countries, where they are scurrying around to cover their guilty arsses??  Presume it!</p>
<p>The number of &#8220;high crimes and misdemeanors&#8221; is mounting day by day and this corrupt administration will take itself down before long.  Wait until Cheney&#8217;s &#8220;deep involvement&#8221; with the outing of a covert CIA agent gets into full disclosure &#8211; it&#8217;s going to &#8220;stink up Penna Avenue&#8221; like a garbage barge!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569496', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: west virginia hillbilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>west virginia hillbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rocky, my neighbor,  hopefully will pursue his mistrust of the bushsh*ter and his sidekick and will lead to IMPEACHMENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rocky, my neighbor,  hopefully will pursue his mistrust of the bushsh*ter and his sidekick and will lead to IMPEACHMENT.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569383', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the fly-man</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569340</link>
		<dc:creator>the fly-man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is the meat from an article in the NYTimes regarding the one that will not go away. &quot;At least one case, the one in Oregon, is probably not moot. It goes beyond the other cases in seeking damages from the government, because the plaintiffs say they have seen proof that they were wiretapped without a warrant.

In August 2004, the Treasury Departmentâ€™s Office of Foreign Assets Control, which was investigating an Oregon charity, al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, inadvertently provided a copy of a classified document to a foundation lawyer, Lynne Bernabei.

That document indicated, according to court filings, that the government monitored communications between officers of the charity and two of its lawyers without a warrant in spring 2004.

â€œIf I gave you this document today and you put it on the front page of The New York Times, it would not threaten national security,â€ Mr. Eisenberg, a lawyer for the foundation, said. â€œThere is only one thing about it thatâ€™s explosive, and thatâ€™s the fact that our clients were wiretapped.â€ Here is the link to the whole story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/washington/26nsa.html?ei=5094&amp;en=9044950dc6386d92&amp;hp=&amp;ex=1169874000&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=homepage&amp;adxnnlx=1169787938-dclKCc+SyhqP2qvBNfXeQg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is the meat from an article in the NYTimes regarding the one that will not go away. &#8220;At least one case, the one in Oregon, is probably not moot. It goes beyond the other cases in seeking damages from the government, because the plaintiffs say they have seen proof that they were wiretapped without a warrant.</p>
<p>In August 2004, the Treasury Departmentâ€™s Office of Foreign Assets Control, which was investigating an Oregon charity, al-Haramain Islamic Foundation, inadvertently provided a copy of a classified document to a foundation lawyer, Lynne Bernabei.</p>
<p>That document indicated, according to court filings, that the government monitored communications between officers of the charity and two of its lawyers without a warrant in spring 2004.</p>
<p>â€œIf I gave you this document today and you put it on the front page of The New York Times, it would not threaten national security,â€ Mr. Eisenberg, a lawyer for the foundation, said. â€œThere is only one thing about it thatâ€™s explosive, and thatâ€™s the fact that our clients were wiretapped.â€ Here is the link to the whole story:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/washington/26nsa.html?ei=5094&amp;en=9044950dc6386d92&amp;hp=&amp;ex=1169874000&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=homepage&amp;adxnnlx=1169787938-dclKCc+SyhqP2qvBNfXeQg" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/26/washington/26nsa.html?ei=5094&amp;en=9044950dc6386d92&amp;hp=&amp;ex=1169874000&amp;adxnnl=1&amp;partner=homepage&amp;adxnnlx=1169787938-dclKCc+SyhqP2qvBNfXeQg</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569340', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clyde the Ripper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569291</link>
		<dc:creator>Clyde the Ripper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have absolute trust and faith in bushco.  I am convinced they will do everything possible to screw the American citizens and everything theysay is a lie,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have absolute trust and faith in bushco.  I am convinced they will do everything possible to screw the American citizens and everything theysay is a lie,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569291', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569279</link>
		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Faiz - grammar check on aisle 3...
&quot;announced it was submitted&quot; ???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faiz &#8211; grammar check on aisle 3&#8230;<br />
&#8220;announced it was submitted&#8221; ???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569279', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569278</link>
		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we need to give Sen Rockefeller credit where credit is due.  

Good job, Rocky!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we need to give Sen Rockefeller credit where credit is due.  </p>
<p>Good job, Rocky!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569278', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ForTruth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569226</link>
		<dc:creator>ForTruth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright, alright, at least Rocky appears to be attempting some oversight on the criminal Bush administration, whom by the way, emboldens the enemy at every turn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright, alright, at least Rocky appears to be attempting some oversight on the criminal Bush administration, whom by the way, emboldens the enemy at every turn.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569226', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: InOnTheFly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/29/rockfeller-nsa-shift/comment-page-1/#comment-1569211</link>
		<dc:creator>InOnTheFly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on ForTruth, how about  some facts or examples for us to consume.  Unlike Sen Roberts, who allowed the WHouse and gang to get away with anything they wanted, at least Rockefeller APPEARS to be attempting some oversight on this gang of thieves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on ForTruth, how about  some facts or examples for us to consume.  Unlike Sen Roberts, who allowed the WHouse and gang to get away with anything they wanted, at least Rockefeller APPEARS to be attempting some oversight on this gang of thieves.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1569211', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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