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	<title>Comments on: Bush Administration Has Pressured Half Of Gov&#8217;t Scientists To Downplay Global Warming</title>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1592949</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 20:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This superficial survey that Waxan touted is just another attempt on their part to â€œpick the best, and leave the restâ€, clouding the policy debate on climate change.&quot; -- hippie with a pistol 

This, Pete above, and several other CORPORATE-PAID SHILLS want to muddy the water for the DO NOTHING BUT PROFIT corps they work for.

&quot;Naturally occurring water vapor makes up 95% of greenhouse gases. The proportion of CO2 (the next biggest contributor) that is anthropogenic is very small (around 2-3% of total atmospheric CO2).&quot;

Which is enough to tilt the balance. Greenhouse gases is not the whole picture -- it&#039;s SOOT as you very well know. Global dimming, from soot, in fact, is reducing the impact of global climate change by a factor of 10. If we cleaned the air, we would see a far larger result of the soot we have put into the air. 

However, you are right, it&#039;s not just greenhouse gasses. It&#039;s also deforestation, big time.

Count on the corporations to get right on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This superficial survey that Waxan touted is just another attempt on their part to â€œpick the best, and leave the restâ€, clouding the policy debate on climate change.&#8221; &#8212; hippie with a pistol </p>
<p>This, Pete above, and several other CORPORATE-PAID SHILLS want to muddy the water for the DO NOTHING BUT PROFIT corps they work for.</p>
<p>&#8220;Naturally occurring water vapor makes up 95% of greenhouse gases. The proportion of CO2 (the next biggest contributor) that is anthropogenic is very small (around 2-3% of total atmospheric CO2).&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is enough to tilt the balance. Greenhouse gases is not the whole picture &#8212; it&#8217;s SOOT as you very well know. Global dimming, from soot, in fact, is reducing the impact of global climate change by a factor of 10. If we cleaned the air, we would see a far larger result of the soot we have put into the air. </p>
<p>However, you are right, it&#8217;s not just greenhouse gasses. It&#8217;s also deforestation, big time.</p>
<p>Count on the corporations to get right on that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1592949', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1592096</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Naturally occurring water vapor makes up 95% of greenhouse gases.  The proportion of CO2 (the next biggest contributor) that is anthropogenic is very small (around 2-3% of total atmospheric CO2).  

To attribute climate change to anthropogenic CO2 is silly given the overwhelming primacy of water vapor and the vast majority share of naturally occurring CO2 in the CO2 equation.  Don&#039;t you see this?  How can you not see this?

Next time you read a Global Warming study, see how they handle water vapor.   Most likely it will be ignored  That should be your first clue that something ain&#039;t right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naturally occurring water vapor makes up 95% of greenhouse gases.  The proportion of CO2 (the next biggest contributor) that is anthropogenic is very small (around 2-3% of total atmospheric CO2).  </p>
<p>To attribute climate change to anthropogenic CO2 is silly given the overwhelming primacy of water vapor and the vast majority share of naturally occurring CO2 in the CO2 equation.  Don&#8217;t you see this?  How can you not see this?</p>
<p>Next time you read a Global Warming study, see how they handle water vapor.   Most likely it will be ignored  That should be your first clue that something ain&#8217;t right.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1592096', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1591871</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish AlG and his scientific support team would explain the causes of previous Ice Ages and Global Warming trends.....Was Fred Flintstones&#039; flint-mobile an early polluter?  How much methane did the dino-cranes produce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish AlG and his scientific support team would explain the causes of previous Ice Ages and Global Warming trends&#8230;..Was Fred Flintstones&#8217; flint-mobile an early polluter?  How much methane did the dino-cranes produce?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1591871', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas G.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1591591</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#72 I never said global warming is not real. I simply question how much of an affect humans have really had. The last volcanic eruption put more soot and gasses into the atmosphere than humans have in YEARS of industry. Knowing that, and the number of volcanic eruptions over the years, how great an affect has that had in correlation to what humans have done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#72 I never said global warming is not real. I simply question how much of an affect humans have really had. The last volcanic eruption put more soot and gasses into the atmosphere than humans have in YEARS of industry. Knowing that, and the number of volcanic eruptions over the years, how great an affect has that had in correlation to what humans have done?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1591591', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: clarkslick</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1591570</link>
		<dc:creator>clarkslick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 17:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am teaching English in South Korea right now and my Korean students tell me that they are watching Inconvenient Truth in the Korean schools, because itâ€™s important, as they probably are in many countries around the world. And there are schools in the US that are forbidding teachers to show it? My youngest students know more about global warming than many adults in America. Unbelievable. 

I wouldnâ€™t be surprised to see one day where the third-world (and maybe other) countries of the world launch a class-action suit against the US, the greatest polluter, for billions if not trillions of dollars. It would mostly be fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am teaching English in South Korea right now and my Korean students tell me that they are watching Inconvenient Truth in the Korean schools, because itâ€™s important, as they probably are in many countries around the world. And there are schools in the US that are forbidding teachers to show it? My youngest students know more about global warming than many adults in America. Unbelievable. </p>
<p>I wouldnâ€™t be surprised to see one day where the third-world (and maybe other) countries of the world launch a class-action suit against the US, the greatest polluter, for billions if not trillions of dollars. It would mostly be fair.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1591570', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rajeev Vashisht</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1590129</link>
		<dc:creator>Rajeev Vashisht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This shows that there are still people who are not patriots but lovers of Humanity of any kind.
Hats Off.

http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This shows that there are still people who are not patriots but lovers of Humanity of any kind.<br />
Hats Off.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.tekno-world.blogspot.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1590129', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: phyllis mcdonald</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1589892</link>
		<dc:creator>phyllis mcdonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again what makes the experts you like any more believable than then experts you donâ€™t like.
Comment by Douglas G. â€” January 30, 2007 @ 8:02 pm

There is consensus in the scientific community that global warming is real, and man-induced.
Comment by Gregor Samsa  â€” January 30, 2007 @ 8:35 pm

Men like you just need to stop passing so much gas when they talk. Like your doing now. That would solve the emission problem and tangentially the global warming theory.

 So, in a nutshell gents, and unladylike ladies as well, purchase an item in the health and beauty aids section of any grocery store a product called Beano. That`s  B E A N O  it will reduce your methane gas output dramatically. There already is a cure for global warming available and it is as close as your nearest grocery store.

B E A N O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again what makes the experts you like any more believable than then experts you donâ€™t like.<br />
Comment by Douglas G. â€” January 30, 2007 @ 8:02 pm</p>
<p>There is consensus in the scientific community that global warming is real, and man-induced.<br />
Comment by Gregor Samsa  â€” January 30, 2007 @ 8:35 pm</p>
<p>Men like you just need to stop passing so much gas when they talk. Like your doing now. That would solve the emission problem and tangentially the global warming theory.</p>
<p> So, in a nutshell gents, and unladylike ladies as well, purchase an item in the health and beauty aids section of any grocery store a product called Beano. That`s  B E A N O  it will reduce your methane gas output dramatically. There already is a cure for global warming available and it is as close as your nearest grocery store.</p>
<p>B E A N O<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1589892', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joanie Doe Â®â„¢</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1588861</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanie Doe Â®â„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 12:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/P45/

Climate Science Watch is a nonprofit public interest education and advocacy project dedicated to holding public officials accountable for the integrity and effectiveness with which they use climate science and related research in government policymaking, toward the goal of enabling society to respond effectively to the challenges posed by global warming and climate change. 

See Details:   http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/about-climate-science-watch/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/P45/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/P45/</a></p>
<p>Climate Science Watch is a nonprofit public interest education and advocacy project dedicated to holding public officials accountable for the integrity and effectiveness with which they use climate science and related research in government policymaking, toward the goal of enabling society to respond effectively to the challenges posed by global warming and climate change. </p>
<p>See Details:   <a href="http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/about-climate-science-watch/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatesciencewatch.org/index.php/csw/details/about-climate-science-watch/</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1588861', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lily</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1587086</link>
		<dc:creator>Lily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 09:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey guys, I&#039;m really sorry I brought up his name. It&#039;s just that he was always good for a laugh when commenting on global warming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, I&#8217;m really sorry I brought up his name. It&#8217;s just that he was always good for a laugh when commenting on global warming.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1587086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hippie with a pistol</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1586631</link>
		<dc:creator>hippie with a pistol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hansen is so concerned with censorship but censors himself by refusing to testify to the Government Reform Committee because he didn&#039;t want to be there with John Christy.

No one has ever prevented Hansen from talking to Congress, or the media for that matter.  He has only done it to himself.

Of course, he expected NASA to pay his way to Iowa so he could announce his support for John Kerry.  Maybe he felt he was being muzzled since NASA wouldn&#039;t fund his politcal agenda. 

BTW, the Union of Concerned Scientists were part of an advocacy campaign to sell climate change using the word &quot;harbringer&quot; to describe weather events.  That term was picked up by other leftist advocacy groups, and numerous government agencies including NOAA and the Fish and Wildlife Service.  The UCS has been schooled by Dr George Lakoff.  The UCS has an agenda of promoting climate doomsday (Lakoff says facts don&#039;t sell climate change, but scary words will) is hardly presenting an unbiased survey here.

This superficial survey that Waxan touted is just another attempt on their part to &quot;pick the best, and leave the rest&quot;, clouding the policy debate on climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hansen is so concerned with censorship but censors himself by refusing to testify to the Government Reform Committee because he didn&#8217;t want to be there with John Christy.</p>
<p>No one has ever prevented Hansen from talking to Congress, or the media for that matter.  He has only done it to himself.</p>
<p>Of course, he expected NASA to pay his way to Iowa so he could announce his support for John Kerry.  Maybe he felt he was being muzzled since NASA wouldn&#8217;t fund his politcal agenda. </p>
<p>BTW, the Union of Concerned Scientists were part of an advocacy campaign to sell climate change using the word &#8220;harbringer&#8221; to describe weather events.  That term was picked up by other leftist advocacy groups, and numerous government agencies including NOAA and the Fish and Wildlife Service.  The UCS has been schooled by Dr George Lakoff.  The UCS has an agenda of promoting climate doomsday (Lakoff says facts don&#8217;t sell climate change, but scary words will) is hardly presenting an unbiased survey here.</p>
<p>This superficial survey that Waxan touted is just another attempt on their part to &#8220;pick the best, and leave the rest&#8221;, clouding the policy debate on climate change.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1586631', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1586546</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Btw, this is HUGE:

&lt;b&gt;http://physorg.com/news89292896.html&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Btw, this is HUGE:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://physorg.com/news89292896.html" rel="nofollow">http://physorg.com/news89292896.html</a></b><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1586546', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1586019</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gogreen,

&quot;The late Paleozoic deglaciation is the vegetated Earthâ€™s only recorded icehouse-to-greenhouse transition, yet the climate dynamics remain enigmatic.&quot;

This is a badly-written sentence and/or a lie.

The &#039;vegetated Earth&#039; has had many glaciation cycles. 

What is &#039;only,&#039; is the recorded evidence -- our only direct evidence (as a result of ice core studies on the existing icepack).

So his sentence really makes no sense, which is not a good characteristic of PUBLISHED scientific thought.

Given the rhetoric, the man is either sloppy, a liar, or a fool. And all three are also possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gogreen,</p>
<p>&#8220;The late Paleozoic deglaciation is the vegetated Earthâ€™s only recorded icehouse-to-greenhouse transition, yet the climate dynamics remain enigmatic.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a badly-written sentence and/or a lie.</p>
<p>The &#8216;vegetated Earth&#8217; has had many glaciation cycles. </p>
<p>What is &#8216;only,&#8217; is the recorded evidence &#8212; our only direct evidence (as a result of ice core studies on the existing icepack).</p>
<p>So his sentence really makes no sense, which is not a good characteristic of PUBLISHED scientific thought.</p>
<p>Given the rhetoric, the man is either sloppy, a liar, or a fool. And all three are also possible.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1586019', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585982</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like the server had a hiccup... 

I wonder if my post will be displayed above psst&#039;s too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like the server had a hiccup&#8230; </p>
<p>I wonder if my post will be displayed above psst&#8217;s too.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585982', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585976</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many fine people murdered by Bush in Iraq.

So many virgins tossed into fire for the superstitions and hatreds of the evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many fine people murdered by Bush in Iraq.</p>
<p>So many virgins tossed into fire for the superstitions and hatreds of the evil.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585968</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(I responded to psst&#039;s post, and now my post is listed above his, renumbered. So you can see that HaloScan is busy making some strange &#039;decisions&#039;).

Don&#039;t trust the HAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(I responded to psst&#8217;s post, and now my post is listed above his, renumbered. So you can see that HaloScan is busy making some strange &#8216;decisions&#8217;).</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t trust the HAL.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585962</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(psst, it&#039;s not 1:30 in Los Angeles -- it&#039;s 10:30. Guess which server is dating the posts?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(psst, it&#8217;s not 1:30 in Los Angeles &#8212; it&#8217;s 10:30. Guess which server is dating the posts?)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585962', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul in LA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585945</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul in LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 06:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Letâ€™s not forget that the worldâ€™s temperature has increased as the number of pirates has decreased. Argh!&quot; --Wilco 

That&#039;s hilarious, Wilco. LMAO.

You should have seen the GLEAM in the eyes of the scientists who testified before Waxman&#039;s committee today -- wow, they were so HAPPY to be teling the truth.

The industry hack wasn&#039;t so happy. Watching CHAIRMAN Waxman rhetorically gaveling him down was a joy to all involved.

&lt;b&gt;Science, in service to the truth? Or throwing virgins into the volcano?&lt;/b&gt;

ARGH!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Letâ€™s not forget that the worldâ€™s temperature has increased as the number of pirates has decreased. Argh!&#8221; &#8211;Wilco </p>
<p>That&#8217;s hilarious, Wilco. LMAO.</p>
<p>You should have seen the GLEAM in the eyes of the scientists who testified before Waxman&#8217;s committee today &#8212; wow, they were so HAPPY to be teling the truth.</p>
<p>The industry hack wasn&#8217;t so happy. Watching CHAIRMAN Waxman rhetorically gaveling him down was a joy to all involved.</p>
<p><b>Science, in service to the truth? Or throwing virgins into the volcano?</b></p>
<p>ARGH!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585945', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-3/#comment-1585389</link>
		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 05:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it that the time stamp on this post:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Funnyâ€¦an earlier post pointing out that Seixon was posting at 3:30 a.m. disappeared. hmmmm.

Comment by psst... â€” January 31, 2007 @ 3:26 am&lt;/blockquote&gt;

is off by some 3+ hours???

&lt;strong&gt;ThinkProgress is losing ALL CREDIBILITY HERE!!!!!&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it that the time stamp on this post:</p>
<blockquote><p>Funnyâ€¦an earlier post pointing out that Seixon was posting at 3:30 a.m. disappeared. hmmmm.</p>
<p>Comment by psst&#8230; â€” January 31, 2007 @ 3:26 am</p></blockquote>
<p>is off by some 3+ hours???</p>
<p><strong>ThinkProgress is losing ALL CREDIBILITY HERE!!!!!</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585389', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Handy Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Handy Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From http://www.physicalgeography.net/ &lt;blockquote&gt;Closed System 
Is is a system that transfers energy, but not matter, across its boundary to the surrounding environment. Our planet is often viewed as a closed system. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dick Cheney made the following statement in late 1999: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;By some estimates, there will be an average of two percent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead, along with, conservatively, a three-percent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional 50 million barrels a day.&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

Later he commissioned a report w/ this passage:


&lt;blockquote&gt;The most significant difference between now and a decade ago is the extraordinarily rapid erosion of spare capacities at critical segments of energy chains. Today, shortfalls appear to be endemic. Among the most extraordinary of these losses of spare capacity is in the oil arena.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://dieoff.org/Olduvai.gif</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From <a href="http://www.physicalgeography.net/" rel="nofollow">http://www.physicalgeography.net/</a><br />
<blockquote>Closed System<br />
Is is a system that transfers energy, but not matter, across its boundary to the surrounding environment. Our planet is often viewed as a closed system. </p></blockquote>
<p>Dick Cheney made the following statement in late 1999: </p>
<blockquote><p>By some estimates, there will be an average of two percent annual growth in global oil demand over the years ahead, along with, conservatively, a three-percent natural decline in production from existing reserves. That means by 2010 we will need on the order of an additional 50 million barrels a day.</p></blockquote>
<p>Later he commissioned a report w/ this passage:</p>
<blockquote><p>The most significant difference between now and a decade ago is the extraordinarily rapid erosion of spare capacities at critical segments of energy chains. Today, shortfalls appear to be endemic. Among the most extraordinary of these losses of spare capacity is in the oil arena.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://dieoff.org/Olduvai.gif" rel="nofollow">http://dieoff.org/Olduvai.gif</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1585114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/30/scientists-warming/comment-page-2/#comment-1584972</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2007 04:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gregor at #82 - thank for that - that was my post Douggy baby was responding to. 
Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” January 30, 2007 @ 9:27 pm&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, now it all makes sense...

Yes, I agree with you on Singer&#039;s possible motives for trying to &quot;debunk&quot; global warming. However, I do think we are on more solid ground when we point out the consensus in the scientific community. 

Being accused of &quot;desperately&quot; wanting to believe was really funny. It doesn&#039;t get any richer than that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gregor at #82 &#8211; thank for that &#8211; that was my post Douggy baby was responding to.<br />
Comment by TerrytheTurtle â€” January 30, 2007 @ 9:27 pm</i></p>
<p>Ah, now it all makes sense&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, I agree with you on Singer&#8217;s possible motives for trying to &#8220;debunk&#8221; global warming. However, I do think we are on more solid ground when we point out the consensus in the scientific community. </p>
<p>Being accused of &#8220;desperately&#8221; wanting to believe was really funny. It doesn&#8217;t get any richer than that&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1584972', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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