Bill O’Reilly:
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Bill O’Reilly:
“You know that the Fondas and [Sean] Penns are going to say, ‘Listen, I’m as American as you are…I just see things differently.’ And I’m willing to give them the benefit of that doubt. I don’t want to say that they’re anti-American.” Moments earlier:
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He really didn’t want to say it, but he had to because loves ratings…..er, America so much.
/sarcasm
February 1st, 2007 at 12:01 amAh, but he did say it. Someone else who doesn’t know how to keep his stories straight or tell an honest one.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:02 amI thought this was a Progressive site. Yet there still is no thread on what is perhaps the most explosive revelation to date:
Cheney’s Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair
By Jason Leopold and Marc Ash
t r u t h o u t | Report
Wednesday 31 January 2007
Copies of handwritten notes by Vice President Dick Cheney, introduced at trial by defense attorneys for former White House staffer I. Lewis “Scooter†Libby, would appear to implicate George W. Bush in the Plame CIA Leak case.
Bush has long maintained that he was unaware of attacks by any member of his administration against [former ambassador Joseph] Wilson. The ex-envoy’s stinging rebukes of the administration’s use of pre-war Iraq intelligence led Libby and other White House officials to leak Wilson’s wife’s covert CIA status to reporters in July 2003 in an act of retaliation.
But Cheney’s notes, which were introduced into evidence Tuesday during Libby’s perjury and obstruction-of-justice trial, call into question the truthfulness of President Bush’s vehement denials about his prior knowledge of the attacks against Wilson. The revelation that Bush may have known all along that there was an effort by members of his office to discredit the former ambassador begs the question: Was the president also aware that senior members of his administration compromised Valerie Plame’s undercover role with the CIA?
February 1st, 2007 at 12:04 amBriseadh na Faire,
You’re gonna get yourself deleted, putting up actual important news on a nonsense post like this.
Heh.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:07 amHey Briseadh, Do you have a link for that so I can read it. I didn’t know anything about that!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:07 amBnF,
You mean the Jason Leopold who falsely reported that Karl Rove had been indicted back in May, 2006? I wouldn’t put too much stock in what Mr. Leopold has to say.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:10 amThe O’Reilly Syndrome: When a patient can say two diametrically different things within moments and not realize the inconsistency of his thoughts.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:13 amJim,
posts of mine which contain links don’t usually show up. I took a bit of a hiatus the past few days, posting under various names. As a troll, I could post anything, links, 9/11, you name it.
but if you check out
truthout
dot
org
you should find what you’re looking for.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:13 amOkay, BnF, I’ll check it out. thanks.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:19 amHere it is…
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/013107Z.shtml
February 1st, 2007 at 12:20 amComment by Exley — February 1, 2007 @ 12:10 am
Quite frankly, Exley, I don’t put any stock in what you have to say.
But before you open your yap again and say something stupid (again), you might want to go over to truth out and look for yourself. You might see (gasp!) copies of the actual memos, in Cheney’s own handwriting!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:21 amI guess that’s better than being, you know, anti-human.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:22 amMindy explain AEI and PNAC.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:23 amHmm,…. Looks a little flimsy to me. God knows, I’d love to see Chimpy and Cheney taken down with Libby and Rove but I think Fitzpatrick is going to need more than that. We’ll see but like I said…
February 1st, 2007 at 12:24 amPathology, it isn’t just for presidents anymore.
-GSD
February 1st, 2007 at 12:24 amExley —— it’s a losing battle. Give up. The American people have rejected your leaders…….in huge numbers. You just consistantly tow the party line….and you don’t make sense. I see you here again and again……why are you here?
February 1st, 2007 at 12:24 amI don’t hang around right wing sites….what do you get out of this. You are constantly proved wrong and mocked, for good reason. There are so many sensible comments here on a regular basis. All you do is try to refute. You do not listen. You are a troll. Period.
BnF,
How unfortunate for you that you did not know that Mr. Leopold has already been exposed as a journalistic fraud….You didn’t know that Mr. Leopold had incorrectly reported last year that Karl Rove had been indicted and had informed the White House of his indictment, did you???? Next time, check your sources…Okay?
February 1st, 2007 at 12:27 amExley, Check YOURS please. I did read the article (see my post above). The testimony suggests that it is possible that Bush knew about this and lied. As I stated, the evidence is somewhat flimsy but it does bear looking at.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:30 amAny died in the wool liberals here who think they can change my political view?
Give it your best shot.
Convince me to become a Democrat.
Who amongst you can orate and pontificate widely on the virtues and principles of being a Democrat?
Let me hear from you and your best and brightest.
I will decide for myself and let`s hear what you`ve got.
A summary article would do just fine.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:31 amEx – Who are you to say what I do or do not know?
Who are you to say “check your sources” when you do not?
By your standards, is not O’Reilly a “journalistic fraud?”
Why do you support Torture and War?
Why do you support killing innocents?
Why do you support lies?
WHO IS YOUR MASTER, EXLEY?
February 1st, 2007 at 12:33 amWhy Am I – I might suggest the Peace and Freedom Party.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:34 amOctober 24, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative
Money for Nothing
Billions of dollars have disappeared, gone to bribe Iraqis and line contractors’ pockets.
by Philip Giraldi
The United States invaded Iraq with a high-minded mission: destroy dangerous weapons, bring democracy, and trigger a wave of reform across the Middle East. None of these have happened.
When the final page is written on America’s catastrophic imperial venture, one word will dominate the explanation of U.S. failure—corruption.
In a word Why Am I Skeptical. Corruption.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:37 amIn other news, not fit for a thread:
Chavez gains free rein in Venezuela
By FABIOLA SANCHEZ, Associated Press Writer
Even benevolent dictatorships are to be regarded with caution. I hope and pray for the best for Venezuela and Sr. Chavez.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:37 amWe Democrats believe in universal education.
For instance the term is “dyed in the wool”.
-GSD
February 1st, 2007 at 12:39 amBnF,
I am sorry you did not know of Mr. Leopold’s history of fraudulent journalistic practices. I am happy to educate you. I will chalk up this latest misstep by you to inexperience and laziness.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:40 amTo Mindy;
From freerepublic;
By Sleeping Freeper
( Was Hillary Behind Obama Smear?)
Give me a break. People around here have been castigating Obama over his alleged Muslim connections for months now, long before he announced his run.
36 posted on 01/25/2007 9:42:43 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1773568/posts
Freepers have been accusing Obama well before this Hillary smear myth.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:41 amI was surprised Nancy Pelosi returned from her whirlwind tour of Iraq and noted NOTHING positive. Her failure to mention the 100+ killed and captured Sunnis who set out to ambush the Shiites must have flown under her radar.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:44 amExlie finally apologizes!
“I am sorry…”
February 1st, 2007 at 12:45 amComment by Exley — February 1, 2007 @ 12:40 am
Bill doesn’t have to say it. The “Truthiness” prompter did it for him.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:45 amExley are you on this thread defending B.O? tsk, tsk, tsk.
well, it was nice while it lasted, but my posts are getting censored again….
later.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:46 amI am sorry you did not know of Mr. Leopold’s history of fraudulent journalistic practices
He was tricked by spoofed emails Exley. It’s quite easy to do.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:47 amJason Leopold is a fraud who is relied upon by the hopelessly delusional. I hope this clears up the controversy.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:48 amHer failure to mention the 100+ killed and captured Sunnis who set out to ambush the Shiites must have flown under her radar.
Comment by valiant venus — February 1, 2007 @ 12:44 am
Except that they weren’t Sunnis, they were Shiites on a pilgramage who were massacred by trigger-happy Iraqi and American forces.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/article2201551.ece
February 1st, 2007 at 12:49 amHellinaBucket,
Nope…I am not here to defend O’Reilly (Look at the posts….Nowhere do I defend O’Reilly — of whom I am not a big fan)…I only posted here to educate BnF of Jason Leopold’s past fraudulent journalistic practices.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:50 amHoly Kow — February 1, 2007 @ 12:47 am
And now, it appears, he was tricked by fraudulent evidence in Cheney’s own handwriting, put into evidence in a court of law by Scooter Libby!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:51 amJason Leopold is a fraud who is relied upon by the hopelessly delusional. I hope this clears up the controversy.
Comment by valiant venus
And you likely listen to that drug addict Limbaugh, or that falafel wielding pervert Oreilly. Talk about hopelessly delusional.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:51 amExley, prove fraud on the part of Leopold. Othewise you are publishing Libel.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:53 amExley, if the posting from BnF is true then it will come out in the trial and it doesn’t matter who the first reporter was. It’s a trial and they tend to be pretty big on the whole “evidence” thing. If it didn’t come out in the trial then pat yourself on the back. But if it did then your boy is going to get impeached and probably be forced to resign because it’s just as big a lie as the Nixon precedent.
Chew on that
February 1st, 2007 at 12:54 amJanuary 29, 2007: Inflation and War Finance
February 1st, 2007 at 12:54 amThe Pentagon recently reported that it now spends roughly $8.4 billion per month waging the war in Iraq, while the additional cost of our engagement in Afghanistan brings the monthly total to a staggering $10 billion. Since 2001, Congress has spent more than $500 billion on specific appropriations for Iraq. This sum is not reflected in official budget and deficit figures. Congress has funded the war by passing a series of so-called “supplemental†spending bills, which are passed outside of the normal appropriations process and thus deemed off-budget. -Ron Paul
And now, it appears, he was tricked by fraudulent evidence in Cheney’s own handwriting, put into evidence in a court of law by Scooter Libby!
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
It really doesn’t matter what Leopold writes, the document in itself is damning Exley.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:55 amO’ Reilly: “And I’m willing to give them the benefit of that doubt.”
**************************
Since when?!?!?!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:56 amThose Fiscally responsible GrOPers =)
Why, Am I Skeptical of the GrOPes!!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:57 amBnF, THE Belfast Telegraph?? Now there’s a reliable source if I ever saw one. What’s next – the impartial viewpoint of Mother Jones? The “fair and balanced” Katrina vandenHuevel of The Nation?
February 1st, 2007 at 12:59 amTypical Exley, quick to post accusations, yet never defends his own position.
I await your proof, Exley.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:00 amYou all have contributed either knowingly or unknowingly to Hillary`s Presidential bid, along with Obama`s political downfall.
I don’t much care whom you vote for VV. As I posted above, and whcich you ignored, the freepers have been talking about Obama for months.
Your myth has been debunked. Yet AEI and PNAC have fooled you and you say nothing about them.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:02 am“In 2002, Salon removed a story written by Leopold from its website because it said it could not confirm existence of an email that was central to the story about Enron. Salon’s editors cited many “inconsistencies and problems” in what they said were changing explanations from Leopold.
“At the end of this process we felt that the essential trust between editor and writer that underlies all reliable journalism had broken down, and that in the wake of that breakdown, we had no choice but to take the story down,” Salon posted on its web site.’
February 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amBTW VV, we know you are Janie Doe.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:02 amThose in Congress who claim they want the war ended, yet feel compelled to keep funding it, are badly misguided. They either are wrong in their assessment that cutting funds would hurt the troops, or they need to be more honest about supporting a policy destined to dramatically increase the size and scope of this misadventure in the Middle East. Rest assured one can be patriotic and truly support the troops by denying funds to perpetuate and spread this ill-advised war. -Ron Paul
Bite me Oreilly.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:04 amJoe Wilson was sent on the “yellow-cake” mission by his wife to revive a lagging career. It wouldn’t have sounded too impressive on the golf course to say his wife had set up the Niger trip. In a pathetic attempt to prop up his reputation, Joe let it drop that the VP had requested his diplomatic expertise. Sounds like Joe figured a few more people would be impressed with a request by Cheney than Plame.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:05 amCNN.com – Court documents: Libby testified that Bush OK’d …
Vice President Dick Cheney’s former top aide testified that President Bush authorized the release of parts of a classified report on Iraq to rebut criticism …
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/04/06/cia.leak/index.html
Is the Christian News Network good enough for you VV?
February 1st, 2007 at 1:06 amMolly Ivins and Cindy Sheehan were lesbian lovers a woman in Beaumont Texas is reporting today.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:07 amJoe Wilson was sent on the “yellow-cake†mission by his wife to revive a lagging career.
Pure drivel.
Joseph Charles Wilson a diplomat of the United States Foreign Service, who was posted to African nations and Iraq during the George H. W. Bush administration.
He was familiar with Africa VV
February 1st, 2007 at 1:08 amJun. 13, 2006 – 3:37 PM
Three Strikes, You’re Out — Jason Leopold Caught Sourceless Again
Paul McLeary
We wonder if the folks over at Truthout.org are rethinking their affiliation with reporter and serial fabulist Jason Leopold. Leopold, you may recall, is the freelance reporter who was caught making stuff up in a 2002 Salon.com article, self-admittedly “getting it completely wrong” in pieces for Dow Jones, and had his own memoir cancelled because of concerns over the accuracy of quotations.
Leopold’s latest addition to his application for membership in the Stephen Glass school of journalism came on May 12 of this year, when he got what appeared to be the scoop of a lifetime. Now writing for Truthout.org, Leopold reported that Karl Rove “told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials,” that he was about to be indicted in the Valerie Plame CIA leak case, “according to people knowledgeable about these discussions.”
Leopold claimed that multiple sources “confirmed Rove’s indictment is imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove’s situation.”
Well, today we learned that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald said he would not seek charges against Rove. Oops.”
Columbia Journalism Review
February 1st, 2007 at 1:09 amAnd what had Mr. Wilson been doing since the First Bush administration? Bathing the kids? Picking up the dry-cleaning?
February 1st, 2007 at 1:12 am“When Leopold’s story was first called into question a few weeks ago, Salon’s Tim Grieve reminded readers of Leopold’s checkered history with the publication. Salon removed Leopold’s August 29, 2002 story about Enron from its site after it was discovered that he plagiarized parts from the Financial Times and was unable to provide a copy of an email that was critical to the piece.”
Columbia Journalism Review
Had enough, Bnf??????
February 1st, 2007 at 1:14 amvv you jest. Do you have that inside info about who actually requested Joe Wilson? Look into it instead of just repeating what BO and the boys told you. The VP had been given info (later proven to be false) that Niger was selling yellow cake to iraq. The VP wanted more info so his office requested more information from…..you guessed it the CIA. You see they do that type of thing. The CIA had pegged Mr. Wilson because he was a former diplomat in that region of the world and would be able to gather some info. After they decided he should be the one the CIA heads went to Mrs. Wilson to see if Mr. Wilson would be receptive to this. Are you following because there is the link between the VP and Wilson. Anyway, Mr. Wilson wanted to go and found………you guessed it again. NOTHING WAS SOLD TO THE IRAQIS. That was in his report that he gave to the CIA. Only after the President said Iraq is trying to buy yellow cake from Niger did Mr. Wilson speak out.
So it actually sounds like you have your head up your ass and are attempting to pass off bullshit for knowledge.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:16 amSean Penn is an American, but O’Reilly is a fascist thug!
February 1st, 2007 at 1:16 amLibby trial evidence depicts Cheney as orchestrating tactics
February 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amBoston Globe, MA – Jan 26, 2007
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/01/26/libby_trial_evidence_depicts_cheney_as_orchestrating_tactics/
“In late August 2002 Salon reported a major scoop: An e-mail linked then Army secretary Thomas White, a former executive at Enron, to an effort to cover the massive losses at the energy giant. White’s supposed message instructed a subordinate: “Close a bigger deal. Hide the loss before the 1Q [first-quarter report].”
By early October, the scoop was scrapped: Salon retracted the story, saying it was “unable to independently confirm the authenticity” of the e-mail. What looked like a direct link between the Bush administration and the Enron debacle was shredded, and the career of Jason Leopold–the author of the piece–was destroyed.
Now Leopold has written a book that casts that episode as just one drama in a tumultuous life that includes years of drug addiction, a felony conviction Leopold hid from his employers, getting fired from a Los Angeles Times community paper for threatening a reporter, and leaving Dow Jones Energy Service after an inaccurate story got Leopold pulled from the Enron beat.”
Village Voice, Feb, 22, 2005
BnF? Hellooooooooooooooo???????
February 1st, 2007 at 1:18 amAnd what had Mr. Wilson been doing since the First Bush administration? Bathing the kids? Picking up the dry-cleaning?
Comment by valiant venus
Your gonna have to ask Joe that.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:20 amWilson met with the current Ambassador, Owens-Kirkpatrick, at the embassy, and was informed that she had already debunked that story.
Heh.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:23 amExley, you got a strong case against one journalist. Couldn’t the same type of argument be used against the entire Fox News? Also, didn’t see a response to my question that does it matter who reported it if it was brought up in the trial? I don’t care about your crusade against the reporter. I’m more interested in the facts at the trial. Wouldn’t you agree that it would not bode well for the Bush administration if handwritten notes from Cheney implicated Bush. This is Watergate level stuff were talking about. Quit side stepping this and man up. This could drop GW to his knees and you know it.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:24 amI have a link sure. But why would I provide it to you?
Do you know how to google?
Comment by Silkworm II
Umm no, I just pulled those links I posted above out of my magic hat.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:27 amHiB, I am not on a “crusade” against any one reporter. I am simply educating BnF about the checkered past of this one particular reporter whom BnF has blindly accepted as truthful….We will see where the Libby trial leads us. But, I will caution that if Fitzgerald had all this supposed blockbuster evidence agaisnt the “higher ups” in the administration, we would have seen some indictments other than Libby’s by now.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:31 amWhy post a story with no link SWII?
I hear that MAF and Hastert are gay lovers a massage therapist, In DC, reports today
February 1st, 2007 at 1:37 amPreviously described in court filings and by the media, Cheney’s role was brought to life yesterday by Martin’s account. She is the first witness in the case who worked closely with Cheney and Libby as they tried to refute former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was sent to Niger by the CIA to determine whether Iraq had sought uranium for a weapons program.
Her testimony was buttressed by previously unreleased documents provided as evidence yesterday, including handwritten notes and margin scribblings Cheney’s staff members hastily jotted at their boss’s instruction.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:40 amWhy do you say that? When Libby was first indicted there was panic and then it appeared that the Libby camp could ride the storm and all would be well. That changed when he came into court and decided to save his own skin. He’s throwing everybody he can under the bus and who’s to say it will stop with him. He was Cheneys chief aide. That is the top. Do you think Libby just ran with these ideas on his own? Do you realize the damage that would create for a renegade staffer to release classified info. That’s right it was declassified by who? Cheney who was given the ok by Bush. This has all the markings of a presidential collapse. If I have learned anything about Fitz is that he is patient and purposeful. He is also very patriotic and if it were to be made known to him that the heads of this country did lie then it will become public. For the sake and health of the nation.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:40 amExley > Fitzgerald does not want to find any evidence against Cheney or Bush. He is just doing a show trial for Libby anyways.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:41 amI heard that Cheney shot a man in the face. Oh wait, that’s right. He did do that.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:41 amHoly Kow = rachel b. blair/patricia
Exley does not = Seixon,but they are twin ideaological reichtard dupes.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:47 amFunny thing, Bill O’Reilly, but from where I stand you’re about as anti-American as it gets. Why do you hate America, Bill?
February 1st, 2007 at 1:49 amHoly Kow = rachel b. blair/patricia
Your funny.
I posted it earlier, in case you missed it -Zep Tepi
February 1st, 2007 at 1:56 amIt’s easy to tell me from Rachel. Just ask a question of her.
She knows nothing about airplanes. I however do 8^P
February 1st, 2007 at 1:59 amRachel what does VBV stand for?
February 1st, 2007 at 2:01 amtroll alert,
madrassa mindy = rachel blair
Holy Kow’s posts are sane…
February 1st, 2007 at 2:07 am‘Your’ funny.
Comment by Holy Kow
I don’t think Zep Tepi would make that mistake.
If so I’d quit reading his posts.
Again I say:
Holy Kow = rachel b. blair/patricia/PAT
February 1st, 2007 at 2:08 amI see Mighty Aphrodite -even under the new screen name- is up to his same old antics: Smears, insinuations, and post without a substance.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:10 amHoly Kow’s posts are sane…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
So was patricia reglin’s.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:13 amIt all depends what mood rachel is in.
You’ll see.
troll alert > has anyone figured out why rachel even wants to post on TP threads?
February 1st, 2007 at 2:18 amHoly Kow’s posts are sane…
Comment by Gregor Samsa
So was patricia reglin’s.
It all depends what mood rachel is in.
You’ll see.
Comment by troll alert
I have never been Patricia nor Rachel, now unless you have some proof, other than wild guesses, I suggest you stop guessing.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:22 amYea Gregor,after reading some more,I can agree that ‘madrassa mindy’ is ‘rachel/angie’.This one works both sides of the gender and political agenda.
So here is the equation as I see it now:
madrassa mindy = Holy Cow = rachel b. blair = many others.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:24 ammadrassa mindy = Holy Cow = rachel b. blair = many others.
Comment by troll alert
Bwahaha, your crazy. Madrass mindy I debunked earlier.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:28 amtroll alert > has anyone figured out why rachel even wants to post on TP threads?
Comment by Jay Randal — February 1, 2007 @ 2:18 am
Jay,you need to ask him/her/them/it/they/she/he/tranny/dude/dyke/psych/O.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:28 amhim/her/them/it/they/she/he/tranny/dude/dyke/psych/O.
Comment by troll alert
Troll alert you are so wrong its hilarious. I also guess you think you have esp.
How can you backup any of what you say?
YOU CAN”T
February 1st, 2007 at 2:32 amHey troll really I am Karl Rove.
lol.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:34 amNo wait troll
February 1st, 2007 at 2:35 amnot Karl roveI am Colbert. =)Although Fitzgerald announced that Rove wasn’t a target, Matt Cooper’s testimony bolsters the Wilsons’ case against administration officials — and it might be the thing that keeps the civil suit from being dismissed, as it shows evidence of a concerted strategy by admin. officials to get even with Wilson by outing his wife.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:43 amHey troll alert. O’ great unwise holder of extra sensory deprivation.
If you read what Madrassa Mindy wrote about think tanks it is pretty much the same thing as what Halbert Holmert said.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:52 amHoly Kow: so there are a bunch of trolls on this thread – who cares? All the trolls have the same intent: detract and distract from the truth of this thread:
Bill (Murdoch’s Bucket Boy) O’Reilly lies so much, he isn’t aware when he is lying. If you hear someone qoute Bucket Boy, you can be pretty sure that that person is lying!
February 1st, 2007 at 2:53 amHow can you backup any of what you say?
YOU CANâ€T
Comment by Holy Kow — February 1, 2007 @ 2:32 am
When you start making those doodles at 4.am,we will all know the truth.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:57 amHoly Kow: so there are a bunch of trolls on this thread – who cares? All the trolls have the same intent: detract and distract from the truth of this thread:
I agree. That must be why I posted links to real articles. Silly me.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:58 amHoly Kow: so there are a bunch of trolls on this thread-…
Comment by hterrya
If you were here enough,you would know that Holy Cow IS a bunch of trolls,all rolled into one.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:02 amBill O’Reilly: posterchild for the new Fairness Doctrine.
Now there’s a potential goldmine: providing professionally-prepared debaters to factually and rhetorically feed him his loofah on a nightly basis.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:03 amYour tediously wrong troll alert. Now if you are so smart hack into my computer and see if you can find any ascii art or cookies or anything that proves what you say. Otherwise STFU.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:04 amInterface: ppp0
February 1st, 2007 at 3:05 amType: PPP (PPPSerial)
IP Address: 172.128.252.223
I double dare you to prove yourself wrong.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:06 amI agree. That must be why I posted links to real articles. Silly me.
Comment by Holy Kow
So did patricia reglin,and a few other of your personas.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:07 amLike I said;you play both sides of the gender and political agenda.
A figurative,if not literal-tranny.
So did patricia reglin,and a few other of your personas.
Like I said;you play both sides of the gender and political agenda.
A figurative,if not literal-tranny.
Comment by troll alert
You are really really wrong, I gave you my IP genius, prove what you say.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:09 amShe knows nothing about airplanes. I however do 8^P
Comment by Holy Kow
Let’s put this to the test:
Of the formed outer surfaces of commercial jet aircraft, what type of material (be specific) are they mostly made of?
February 1st, 2007 at 3:10 amYou can sit here and repeat your accusations all you want, but never can you prove any of it. If you were wise you would stop while your just a little behind.
Your ESP fails you miserably.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:11 amInterface: ppp0
Type: PPP (PPPSerial)
IP Address: 172.128.252.223
Comment by Holy Kow — February 1, 2007 @ 3:05 am
I double dare you to prove yourself wrong.
Comment by Holy Kow — February 1, 2007 @ 3:06 am
All this just proved me right.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:11 amIt just a matter of time until the doodles begin.
Aluminiummany grades 2024 T6 being one.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:13 amOf the formed outer surfaces of commercial jet aircraft, what type of material (be specific) are they mostly made of?
Comment by Barfly — February 1, 2007 @ 3:10 am
Aluminum. Or Aluminium,if you are British.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:13 amAnd what does “cres” stand for?
February 1st, 2007 at 3:14 amThe 727-100 and 200 series aircraft use the P and W Jt8d series of turbine engines.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:14 amThe hydrauilic system runs at 3,000 PSI and uses an esther based synthetic type fluid Skydrol. The Jet engines mostly use 2380 synthetic oil.
The 727 has two electric hydraulic pumps and two engine driven pumpss.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:16 amAluminiummany grades 2024 T6 being one.
But not when they were made. T6 is too hard to form properly, so it’s usually formed in “o” condition, and heat treated to the desired hardness — but I bet you knew that.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:17 amACM stand for air cycle machine. VBV (CFM engines) stands for variable bleed valves.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:19 amAluminiummany grades 2024 T6 being one.
But not when they were made. T6 is too hard to form properly, so it’s usually formed in “o†condition, and heat treated to the desired hardness — but I bet you knew that.
Comment by Barfly
Alclad.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:20 amHoly Kow,will you doodle a airplane for us?
February 1st, 2007 at 3:22 amAlclad.
Comment by Holy Kow
Which is a bitch to cut with a laser, because of it’s refractive qualities.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:23 ami don’t do ascii art troll.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:23 amTroll(s) has (have) successfully distracted from the truth of this thread:
Bill (Murdoch’s Bucket Boy) O’Reilly lies so much, he isn’t aware when he is lying. If you hear someone qoute Bucket Boy, you can be pretty sure that that person is lying!
February 1st, 2007 at 3:24 amKiss my can-annular ass troll.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:25 ampoor troll just got proved wrong LOL
February 1st, 2007 at 3:28 amI can’t help but feel as if they’re just put this thread down as fodder, to keep us happily chewing cud.
The real story would be if he ever had something nice to say about Fonda or Penn.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:33 amI can’t help but feel as if they’re just put this thread down as fodder, to keep us happily chewing cud.
Its typical BORe rhetoric thats for sure and hardly worth mention. So yes I agree.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:36 amAnyway, I must now fly the friendly skies behind my eyes; g’night, Kow.
February 1st, 2007 at 3:43 amtroll alert,
You’re kidding right?
Save your lecturing. This “civilian” has served and I know people on the groung there in Iraq and you my friend are full of horse hooey, that place is a living stinking hell brought to the American people by chicken-hawk punks. So dress this pig up and condescend all you want to “civilians” you’re living in a fantasy.
I would say though tough guy if you are on the ground there, good luck and God speed.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:19 amI’m greatly outnumbered in my quest to bring a sense of reality and sanity to a site that’s chock full o’ wingnuts.
I could use some help here.
It’s more fun that a barrel of monkeys until they get really hateful.
Come on over, join up, and head for the political view.
I need some folks with some good argumentative skills for the cause. I’m fighting hard as I can but I can only do so much.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:38 amLooks like I got Exley to spend his evening trying to shoot down the messenger, but failing to shoot down the message. All you’ve demonstrated is that Leopold has relied on sources upon occasion which have let him down. You haven’t even come close to proving fraud, which includes proving scienter on Leopold’s part.
Exley, did you ever read the TruthOut article? I doubt it, because then you would have noticed that you also have to discredit Mark Ash.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:40 amHeaven forbid that…
…Bill O’Lielly…
…step on a land mine…
…or something…
…blah blah Bill…
February 1st, 2007 at 10:02 am“I am sorry…â€
Comment by Exley
One thing we agree on….
February 1st, 2007 at 10:06 amPoor BnF….You had no idea who Jason Leopold was or anything about his checkered past of journalistic fraud and incomptence.
It is not the first time I had to educate you on something of which you had no knowledge. You shouldn’t be embarassed. Just sit back and learn.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:37 amExlax,
READ SOME FACTS, IDIOT.
YOU NEED TO GET “LEARNED” YOURSELF, FOOL
http://patrickjfitzgerald.blogspot.com/2007/01/handwriting-is-on-wall.html
Don’t hate the messenger, shallow-minded moron, OPEN YOUR EYES AND LET THE TRUTH BLIND YOU.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:55 am…since dim-wits like you might have trouble with “the internets”, here’s a direct link…
Read, weep, then SHUT UP.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:58 amBnF – When the “messenger” is a confirmed and prolific liar, please explain why anyone should trust the liar?
February 1st, 2007 at 10:59 amATTENTION:
The screed in # 125 @ 4:52 am. by so called ‘troll alert’ is not the original troll alert.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:18 amIs this “expert” still receiving federal assistance with his programing? I didn’t realize that propaganda qualifies as free speech and balanced exchange of idea. If anyone is anti-American, it is this human waste bag, O’Reilly.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:40 amI would love for Bill to bring the body language analyst back to analyze Jane and Sean’s body movement and character. She’ll probably state that based on their body movement, she can tell that they’re participating in the protest to gain more fame.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:43 amEverybody knows that being pro-American means being pro-war – every day, every time. Let’s change the flag, and add some bullets and bombs to it, so the whole world can understand what we’re about.
Here is the core element of rightard 2-D thinking:
If you are not against something, it means you are “for” it.
If you are “against” something, it means you are “for” its opposite.
They apply this “simpletons’ calculus” to everything: If you’re not a rabid pro-lifer, it means you want compulsory abortions; if you’re against the war, you’re for the terrorists, if you’re against cutting Social Security, it mean you’re a Communist, if you’re for environmental regulation, it means you want to destroy the economy.
At the end of the day, this kind of worldview is the greatest enemy humankind has ever faced. Worse than any army, or weapon, or ideology. The Simpletons’ Calculus is tearing down Democracy, tearing down our civil society, and advancing ignorance throughout our population like a rampant infectious disease.
“Men”, like ORally and Limpball, are making fortunes creating new “theorems” of Simpleton’s Calculus, and their viewers, too harried and rushed and short of attention lap it up, repeat it, and it becomes a false part of the real public debate. What you cannot find are many examples of Simpletons’ Calculus being practiced at the Left end of the spectrum. Not to say it isn’t done, because it is, it just isn’t the primary m.o. of any on the Left. In some cases, it might be worth using, just to get the scales tipped back toward the center, or to “break the ice” of ignorance that has the ships of so many stranded in the harbor.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:14 pmIt is not the first time I had to educate you on something of which you had no knowledge. You shouldn’t be embarassed. Just sit back and learn.
Comment by Exley
Coming from you, that’s hilarious!
February 1st, 2007 at 12:20 pmI’m a basic lefty and I don’t trust Jason Leopold either. Its not only that he falsly reported that Rove was to be arrested, he held to that long after it was clearly untrue, and worse, as a ‘journalist’ he never fully retracted. He bobbed and weaved about how he was ‘in front of the news cycle’. If you’re a journalist and get it wrong, you need to own up. Truthout also displayed a Dubya-like unwillingess to admit they were wrong. I’ve stopped going there.
Check http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/05/23/BL2006052300414.html
p.s. He has admitted in his memoir to “…breaking journalistic rules, and lying to employers”, as well as drug addiction. So I hold, just as in reporting a story, if Leopold is your one source you have nothing yet. I’ll wait on corroboration.
February 1st, 2007 at 12:29 pmComment by tom baker
Practice the advice you gave me about the name calling the other day. I think you told me to “Take the name calling back to the jr. high playground” where it, and I belong.
I see you are another member of the Selective Outrage group.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:07 pmOkay, Bob: “O’Reilly and Limbaugh”. That better? Now maybe you can feel unintimidated about responding to my thesis.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pmOf the formed outer surfaces of commercial jet aircraft, what type of material (be specific) are they mostly made of?
Comment by Barfly — February 1, 2007 @ 3:10 am
The outer surface of the structure may of course be provided with various … The specific type of fibrous material and its orientation and/or weave will of …
A load-bearing composite material structure (2, 2′) has a plurality of layers of composite material. Each layer includes a matrix material (4) that maintains its structural integrity at 1200.degree. F. for at least five minutes. Preferred matrix materials are polyimide resins. Outer layers that will be directly exposed to a fire are reinforced with a woven fabric (8) that is sufficiently flame resistant and has a sufficiently fine weave to prevent flame penetration at 2000.degree. F. for at least fifteen minutes. The woven fabric (8) is preferably ceramic. The rest of the layers are reinforced with a fibrous material (6) to provide the necessary structural strength. The layers may be laminate cured together to form a single, integral structure (2) or such laminates adhesively bonded to a honeycomb (12).
February 1st, 2007 at 1:45 pmYou folks have to understand something. War is not a good thing in any man`s book. Even the fighting man`s.
But you are looking at this war out of the CIVILIAN mindset and realm and to be quite frank and open, you are blowing this war way out of proportion and taking only pretexts of conversations as well as selected film clips and are using them and doctoring them to suit your purpose.
When you civilians come to visit us, we look at you like you are from outer space or something. You have been brainwashed and media sandblasted to believe that EVERYTHING is wrong in Iraq. The look on some of your faces when you would come to Iraq to see things for yourself was almost one of, This is all their is to see?
Where`s all the death? Where`s all the destruction? You leeches almost looked like you were disappointed or somehow got ripped off by Uncle Sam and didn`t get your money`s worth, and if it hadn`t been a war you would have stomped your foot and demanded your money back.
Because to you civilians, that`s all a war is as far as you know. -Just like a video game- most keyboard commandos around here assume I expect.
Their have been great accomplishments come to pass in Iraq.
You only dwell on the negative.
There is a war on you know?
With live bullets?
People die.
Relax.
Talk about yellow journalism.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmATTENTION:
The screed in # 125 @ 4:52 am. by so called ‘troll alert’ is not the original troll alert.
Comment by troll alert
Why should I believe you? you run around accusing others of being people, thru some esp, that doesn’t work, and now you expect to be trusted?
The troll who cried wolf one to many times. Your credibility, if you ever had any, is gone.
February 1st, 2007 at 1:50 pmunbeleiveable puts the ” troll ” back in ” troll alert ”
Right unbelievable you trolling bitch?
February 1st, 2007 at 1:57 pmmay be laminate cured together to form a single, integral structure (2) or such laminates adhesively bonded to a honeycomb (12).
Comment by Holy Kow
Honeycomb structures are quite strong, however the skin of the aircraft is mostly aluminium (2024-0, 2024 t3, 2024 t6 depending on the heat treatment and precipitation times (annealing)). The flight controls (ailerons, tabs, spoilers) are made with honeycomb and are aluminium clad. The radome and other wing to body fairings and access panels, doors (AC bay) are composite. The Scarebus (Airbus) uses more of these composites than the Boeing or Douglas (now Boeing) aircraft.
post at 1:57 is not the real Kow =)
February 1st, 2007 at 2:05 pmTheir have been great accomplishments come to pass in Iraq.
You only dwell on the negative.
Why did Bechtel pull out again?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/11/01/MNGMIM3RAG1.DTL
Nov. 2006
“That’s really an under-told story — we’ve stopped the reconstruction,” said Frederick Barton, co-director of the Post-Conflict Reconstruction Project at the Center for Strategic & International Studies think tank. “There are some things we’re still finishing up, but we’re wrapping up, and we’re stepping back. It’s really a tragedy.”
February 1st, 2007 at 2:09 pmif the reconsruction has stopped troll, then schultz (yes Schultz) has given up on Iraq.
I wish these guys would stop trying to blame ‘liberals’ for their mistakes. It’s old, it’s tedious, it’s false and its’s basically slander. Yet the media, such as BORe here will continue to mislead the 30% with their insane Fondas and Penns diatribes.
They were wrong then and they are wrong now.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:14 pmYou leeches almost looked like you were disappointed or somehow got ripped off by Uncle Sam and didn`t get your money`s worth, and if it hadn`t been a war you would have stomped your foot and demanded your money back.
The reconstruction has stopped sudo troll. Read my above link.
Uncle Sam is me and you. Those that screwed us are not Uncle Sam.
February 1st, 2007 at 2:23 pmComment by tom baker
Actually, Tom, I think you make some good points. I have never been one that thinks if you are “against” something that you are automatically “for” its opposite. I do not think that those against the war in Iraq are for a US defeat. I do not think them un- American. You can not put things in simple terms like that.
I will give you an example of my own life. I am PERSONALLY against abortion, but I am by no means FOR banning it. Some people may not be able to understand that thought process.
Tom, you are a good man.
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9/11 was an inside job!
How come it is that everytime that Rosie O’Donnel breaks wind; it’s front page news. But when she comes out publically about 9/11 being an inside job, they mention nothing.
Is everyone here in agreement that 9/11 was an inside job! If not, have you watched “9-11 in plain sight”, “loose change”, or “9-11 mysteries”?
March 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pm