Concerns over Iran bombing grow.
By on Feb 1st, 2007 at 5:38 pm
Concerns over Iran bombing grow.
U.S. News: “Democrats on Capitol Hill are increasingly concerned that President Bush will order air strikes against targets in Iran in the next few months or even weeks. … [T]hey suspect Bush will order the bombing of Iranian supply routes, camps, training facilities, and other sites that Administration officials say contribute to American losses in Iraq. Under this scenario, Bush would not invade Iran with ground forces or zero in on Iranian nuclear facilities. But under the limited-bombing scenario, Bush could ask for a congressional vote of support…which many Democrats would feel obliged to endorse or risk looking like they weren’t supportive of the troops.”
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That’s why “Embolden the Enemy” is now #1 on the Top 10 GOP Sound Bites List.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmIt is supporting the troops to stop Bush from giving them another enemy.
Congress must stop Bush from starting a war with Iran.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:45 pmIf Bush asks for a vote on attacking Iran and the Dem vote yes, they will forever be the party of pussy’s. What are they good for if they can’t even vote there mind?
February 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmOnce again, the troops are only political hostages to the Republicans.
Put them in harm’s way, and if anyone objects, claim we must want them to die in harm’s way. I guess that makes a kind of sense … in the trailer park.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pm.
One bomb drops in Persia and the jig is up.
and we WILL impeach Cheney first.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:46 pmDamn straight! You sound just like my dear old mother (a lifelong Republican!)
February 1st, 2007 at 5:55 pmWhat makes you think Chimpy, or his Organ Grinder will ask for a vote, Roger Rabbit?
“They can’t stop us” – Organ Grinder Cheney.
February 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmIran started the war by supplying the insurgents. The President of Iran has called for the destruction of Israel and the US. Will it take a Nuke to go off on in a public market in Israel before you want to act? Or maybe you will wait till they set one off in the US.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmBush could ask for a congressional vote of support…
Don’t expect it. He’d love to embarass a few Dems, but he wouldn’t risk not getting the OK. This is not Oct 2002 and he’s no longer flying high in the polls post-9/11. He’ll just do it and claim he has the authority as CinC.
The appropriate Dem and Congressional response should be impeachment.
Make it preemptive.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmWould the House please stand up and begin impeachment proceedings? Please? For the sake of our country. Please? Here’s some testosterone for gonadal growth enhancement.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pmthis shit makes me sick to my stomach. i know the whole ‘bush is pure evil’ meme has run its course but i may have to try to revive it, if only for the vicarious, reptilian brain thrill it provides.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pmPost by Kevin – Condi is that you and your mushroom cloud again? Don’t you need a new pair of shoes or something?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pm“They can’t stop us†– Organ Grinder Cheney.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
I think they’d like the challenge of Impeachment. They seem to be ASKING for it.
Uh oh! Look out, Kevin’s playing the “mushroom cloud” card – as if bombing Iran would DECREASE that possibility? Surely you jest. They’re still 5-10 years away from bomb-grade material, little chap!
February 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmIf bush asks congress for support of “limited bombing” to support the troops, the response, should be; “Only after you’ve exhausted every possible means and avenue in direct negotiations with Iran to the point of using the UN as a mediator. Otherwise, NO.”
February 1st, 2007 at 6:06 pmWake – stop calling Kevin ’shirley’, I know it suits him but that’s not important right now…
February 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pmDems are going to vote for this? Bunch of goddamned wussies.
I voted Dem so they would vote AGAINST an Iran war.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pmKevin, Iran is years and years away from getting a nuke. Probably more than a decade. There are plenty of ways to stop it from happening. Bombing them won’t help, and it will only confirm their suspicions that they need a nuke in the first place.
A nuke going off in a public market in Israel? What kind of comic books have you been reading?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmBombing of supply trails in a country that is not part of the conflict in order to widen the scope of the war? I think this storyline was confirmed as illegal bombing 35 years ago.
Right, Herr Doktor Kiss-myfatwhiteass-enger?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pmOne bomb drops in Persia and the jig is up.
and we WILL impeach Cheney first.
Comment by mdhatter —
Oh and look at this poster. Like you are really able to do anything.
If spouting off like this makes you fell better then fine.
But do you REALLY think you can stop Bush or Cheney?
The bigger question being this one, why would you want to?
The jig is up. Listen to your pathetic self. Okay the jig is up and we ARE going to bomb the Iranians back to the stoneage.
What are you going to do now?
Except listen to yourself type into a TP blank screen.
You cannot make a difference. Why even try?
Let`s wait until the bombs start falling then I will wait with keen interest for your impeachment proceedings that WILL NEVER HAPPEN to begin.
Again, if it makes you fell better typing into a blank screen here at TP, then by all means go ahead.
But it will make no diffreence I assure you. The jig has BEEN UPP since 2000.
Where in the hell have you been anyway?
Prison?
Or more fitting, a PSYCHO NUT WARD?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmI see Kevin the Fascist Repuke Troll is playing the Mushroom Cloud card like a good little Chimpylover. What an idiot.
Iran is 10 years away from a bomb. Even their little experimental program isn’t making any high-grade isotopes.
Chimpy doesn’t need an OK from Congress to bomb Iran. IIRC, the War Powers Act gives him 30 days to bomb them into the Stone Age.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:12 pmKevin is a hit and run Repuke troll. He’s probably on the next blog by now. I think Rove pays him by the post.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmThey’re still 5-10 years away from bomb-grade material, little chap!
Comment by wake-n-bake
Which is all the MORE reason to take them out NOW while we are in the neighborhood.
The cost to REDEPLOY in 5-10 years would be a waste of money, I mean we are there right now!
Cost effective accountability.
Something you democrats ought to study up on.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:14 pmAngel Hair is right. The United States of America ceased to exist when Chimpy fixed the 2000 election and then had the Supremes appoint him unconstitutionally.
We needed to overrun the Capitol with ten million people in January 2001 and stop the first Chimpy inauguration. But we didn’t.
Americans are too fat, dumb and happy to stand up for our rights. So we lost em. USA 1789-2000 RIP.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmBombing of supply trails in a country that is not part of the conflict
Comment by Tom – Daai Tou Laam — February 1, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
Isn’t this how we dragged Cambodia into the Vietnam war, and indirectly kick started the Khmer Rouge?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:20 pmI don’t get paid to post on this site.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:22 pmDon’t you think that the House Dems and up-for-relection Senate Pubs would hold serious hearings on the “vote of support” whether it comes before or after the bombing? Do you think that the Congress will let bad “intel” and worse guesses rule the day again? Bush will never risk House hearings when we know that a whole list of witnesses including military will testify to the increased danger to our troops in Iraq. And of course it would be the death knell for what little of the Coalition remains; Blair would be forced to publically condemn Bush and/or resign. Plus there goes any European Union support on Iranian nukes. Unless you believe that BushCheney are willing to stick a final dagger in the back of the Publicans then it seems a very long shot for Bush to escalate to that point for no real gain. Limited bombing will either lead to a full blown hot war with Iran or Iran’s getting the bomb on Bush’s watch. Either would ruin the Publicans for a decade.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:24 pmKevin, you’re a Repuke. That means yu’re a liar. So I wouldn’t doubt Rove is paying you…in money or blowjobs.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:28 pmI think Chirac was right – even if the Iranians get the bomb they couldn’t ever use it. Israel would raze Iran before the dust settled from Iran’s first strike.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pmDo you folks believe that Iran is just a peace loving country? And that we are only concerned with them because…..we just want to kill people for fun?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmCost effective accountability.
Something you democrats ought to study up on.
Comment by I Love All Wars
EARTH TO NEOCON: Our Military is BROKEN. Our National Guard is BROKEN. We’re going BROKE over this tragedy in Iraq.
A re-deployment in 10-15 years would actually be MORE cost effective, assuming we can pay off the incredible financial toll this “war” will have in the near future.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:30 pmIf Bush asks for a vote on attacking Iran and the Dem vote yes, they will forever be the party of pussy’s. What are they good for if they can’t even vote there mind?
There won’t be a vote. Bush has already indicated that his presidency is a “unitary executive” (which means, for all intents and purposes, it’s a monarchy) and doesn’t need an affirmation by Congress to “protect and defend the U.S.”
Democrats, in spite of being in the majority, have no ability to prevent Bush from doing anything. It’s Republicans in Congress who need to break with this administration. They’re the ones who are protecting Bush and Cheney and keeping both the war in Iraq continuing and emboldening Bush to expand the conflict throughout the entire Middle East region.
The only way to prevent Bush from attacking Iran is for Republicans to inform Bush that they will lead an impeachment inquiry and remove him and Cheney from office.
I wouldn’t count on that happening. The Republicans in Congress are still firmly in Bush’s and Cheney’s back pocket, they support him and his policies. What they are hearing from Rove is that the problem is the people, the voters, and that if we can be “properly informed” (propagandized), we’ll be back on board with Bush-Cheney and the GOP. As they see it, they have two years to plow through their agenda, and that includes ramping up their disinformation campaign and media consolidation.
If you want to make a difference, hit the streets and protest. Storm the Capitol, flood your Senators and Congressmen and women with phone calls and mail (snail and email both), and demand action now. Don’t wait for others to do it or to tell you what to do. Set aside an hour every day to do nothing but confront your government representatives. Every day.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:32 pmYou’re dead on.
That was the substance of todays Johnny Letter to my Republican Representatives. They must take a stand against the wayward, in over his head Commander (gulp) in Chief.
I really can NOT call him by that without gagging.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:37 pmI don’t envy the Democrats. They want to profit from the “warâ€, get the troops out of harm’s way in a “war†long lost and torn between saving this country or their place at the top of the food chain. We all know what they will work towards saving.
Given the above, is it any wonder that a non-binding resolution is the best they will do?
February 1st, 2007 at 6:39 pmCommander (gulp) in Chief.
I really can NOT call him by that without gagging.
Comment by wake-n-bake
Call him Chimp-in-Chief then. It works for me.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:40 pmIt’s Wake’n'Bake!!
…and I helped!!
February 1st, 2007 at 6:48 pmIf Bush bombs Iraq, the Congress must vote to censure him. Bombing Iraq has NO popular support. So, Congress must do the right thing which, in this case, will ALSO be the politically expedient thing…
February 1st, 2007 at 6:53 pmDemocratic Party resonse is stupid.
No backbone, guts, or any real ideas.
February 1st, 2007 at 6:54 pm#35 Tom3,
Thanks,
But you’re freakin’ me out with two styles of apostrophe!?
Whaaaah!!!
Time to go put some more sensi “up in the air…yo.”
February 1st, 2007 at 6:57 pm#32. – wake-n-bake
That was the substance of todays Johnny Letter to my Republican Representatives. They must take a stand against the wayward, in over his head Commander (gulp) in Chief.
At least in the weeks before the mid-term elections, they were back campaigning in their districts and had contact with their unhappy constituents. They could try to deny that the complaints of their constitutuents wouldn’t change the balance of power in Congress until the election results were counted and they saw themselves in the minority. But the human mind is a miraculous organ – we’re given “denial” for a purpose: To shield us from painful news.
Their shock was short-lived, and now that they’re back in Washington, back in the warm bosom of Congress (which is really just a great echo-chamber), they really don’t hear contradictory views to their own opinions. What they do hear, what they get in spades, is the Bush-Cheney propaganda machine, led by Rove and the White House communications group, with talking points like “go against this president and you’re emboldening the enemy.” Democrats are in that echo chamber, too, and aren’t challenging it either, but for very different reasons.
The only way that I see to prevent Bush from pouring gasoline on an already out-of-control situation in the Middle East is for the American people to hit the bricks and walk into their Senators and Congressmen and women’s offices (by mail or in person) and demand action against this administration.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:02 pm#38.
Iranians would be called foriegn fighters.
And we, Americans, too, are the “foreign fighters.”
February 1st, 2007 at 7:04 pmI think that everyone here needs to ask themselves a simple and straight forward question: What will I do if the Bush administration launches a war against Iran?
February 1st, 2007 at 7:10 pmDo you think America is a peace loving country?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 1, 2007 @ 6:57 pm
Yes I do.
Do you?
February 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pm#42 Maeven,
Actually, Americans are the “Invaders” or “Occupation force”.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:12 pm#29
Iran is just the latest example of the Neo-cons distorting reality in order to strike fear and increse their power. Love your country, distrust your governemnt.
t-mac
February 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pm#36.
If Bush bombs Iraq, the Congress must vote to censure him. Bombing Iraq has NO popular support. So, Congress must do the right thing which, in this case, will ALSO be the politically expedient thing…
I assume you meant Iran and not Iraq.
A censure is the equivalent of a group “tsk, tsk.” A censure has no force of law, to prevent an action by Bush.
Try to imagine a 3-year-old child at a black tie, sit-down dinner at an embassy. Do you think that at the sight of the 3-year-old eating off of his and other people’s dinner plates with his hands, if all of the grown-up guests turned away and “tsk-tsk”-ed at the child’s manners, that would have any effect on the child’s behavior?
Bush doesn’t care if he’s censured.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmDems, you better not cave to this shit.
They have the f*cking power, and yet they still cave!
February 1st, 2007 at 7:14 pmWhat will I do if the Bush administration launches a war against Iran?
Comment by Tuber
Go shopping, of course.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:15 pmComment by Kevin
Yes I do.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmComment by fred
After 180+ landings on foreign countries and 737 permanent military bases across the world? Really? Are you that dumb?
#45 fred,
Prove it!
After all, as everyone knows, words are cheap and actions are that upon which all are judged (and rightfully so). I would appreciate your explanation of how the actions of the USA are congruent with a “peace loving” philosophy.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmDo you think America is a peace loving country?
Well, based on the lyrics to our National Anthem, I’d say NO.
but I often wonder, the way we claim Godliness, yet can’t wait to wup someone’s ass if they look at us the wrong way, or take our parking space, or cut us off in traffic, etc.
…and peace is regarded as a “dirty, hippie” word or flaky concept by most Conservatives.
So, although you may THINK that, the majority of the World DOES NOT.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:20 pmI think that its great- lets bomb the hell out of Iran. Then we can move over to Syria and do the same to the Syrians. And if that doesn’t show the folks just how serious we are, we can always begin to round up every single Iranian and Syrian that we can find and ship them the hell out of here asap.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pm#43.
Actually, we would fall into the category of foriegn occupational forces.
#46.
Actually, Americans are the “Invaders†or “Occupation forceâ€.
That (Bush distinction) is a little too nuanced for this liberal.
I think it’s the Iraqis who get to identify who is what, and from their point of view, we Americans fit all all of those terms (invaders, occupiers, foreigners). But one thing that we are not: Trusted friends or allies.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:24 pm#53 w-n-b,
Dude, you are hitting on all cylinders today. I want whatever it is that you are smoking. Seriously.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:25 pm#45.
By what measure do you think that we are a peace-loving country?
February 1st, 2007 at 7:27 pm#55 Maeven,
Well said. Although, if there are no Iraqis left to define us, do we then default back to being “welcomed liberators”? I guess that’s the whole “history is written by the victor” thing that Hitler was so excited about.
I understand the concept but am forced to wonder, who is Victor?
Good night free thinkers…
February 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pmIf you’ll check, you’ll find that the U.S. has been diverting a LOT of firepower to the waters in that area (Iraq, Iran, etc.).
I mean a LOT. This buildup is still going on. Once all the pieces are in place, Bush will be ready to play another game of what he likes to call, “Commander in Chief.”
He’ll put on his cute little jacket, and pretend that he knows something about the military, and then order air strikes out the wazoo. If Iran tries to strike one of our naval vessels, that will trigger a wipeout of whatever air and naval forces Iran has on hand.
Then it will get very, very, messy in a hurry.
Of course, all of this buildup could just be a “bluff.” And I’m sure that Iran will accede to the ridiculous demands of Condiscending Rice that Iran immediately halt their entire nuclear program, crawl on their hands and knees before the U.N., and beg for mercy, and maybe we’ll talk to them on a diplomatic level when we damn well feel like it. And I’m sure that the additional troops will not spark any more unrest in that region.
Then again, monkeys might fly out of my butt.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:36 pmBULL………I CAN NOT BELIEVE THEY ARE STILL SAYING THIS. DEMOCRATS DON’T WANT TO “LOOK” LIKE THEY AREN’T SUPPORTING THE TROOPS.
WE ARE PAST HOW THINGS “LOOK” HOW ABOUT HOW THINGS “ARE?”
BULL TO THIS DEMOCRATIC WEAKNESS. This has to stop. It is time to act regardless of how anything seems…looks….may be construed…..etc etc etc.
The fact is the war must be stopped and the Iran war must not start. PERIOD. AND ….NOW
February 1st, 2007 at 7:37 pm#58.
f there are no Iraqis left to define us, do we then default back to being “welcomed liberators� I guess that’s the whole “history is written by the victor†thing that Hitler was so excited about.
Now that is something I hadn’t considered…very interesting.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:38 pmKevin in response to comment 29, it’s all about oil. If you can’t see that you’re blind. If you don’t believe that, you’re naive.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:39 pmI refuse to fight in a war started by people who refused to fight in a war.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:44 pmUnfortunately, I don’t trust this boy-bugging administration. So I need proof Iran is helping in the Iraq conflict. I need to be convinced this is necessary.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:44 pmThe wake-up call WILL come in the form of a mushroom cloud.
From an American bomb or missle.
I wish the Democratic Party would give up its collective fear of being labled by the Republicans and just DO THE RIGHT THING!
I must say, the Republican Political Strategy is excellent. Filibuster everything. Drag your feet and protest every miniscule semantic in a non-binding resolution while the Commander-in-Chief sends multiple carrier groups into the Persian Gulf.
Use ever increasing rhetoric against Iran.
Bomb targets inside a sovereign nation.
If Iran attempts to defend itself, or reacts in any way militarily, bomb them back to the stone age:
February 1st, 2007 at 7:51 pm
I can`t wait for the bomb bays to open up over the clear desert skies of Iran soon.
It gives me a hardon and brings me to near orgasm just to think of the live coverage that will be offered that night.
Then in the news reports, warning sirens wail as the reporter cuts in and gives us the latest.
Anyone got any extra butter for my popcorn?
The show carnival is about to begin.
How do you like your Iranians TP?
Baked.
Fried.
Or extra crispy?
February 1st, 2007 at 7:52 pmKevin why don’t you and all your War loving supporters just walk
your little tusises down to the local Amy office and sign up, them we
can really see what kind of Man your are Not.
You and Bush will all Burn in H _ _ for your actions.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:55 pmI refuse to fight in a war started by people who refused to fight in a war.
Comment by Uncle_Ho
This is a strong , sensible sentiment I whole-heartedly support.
February 1st, 2007 at 7:58 pmSo the freepers might have to put down their 101st division of keyboards and actually serve?
Let the whining begin!
February 1st, 2007 at 7:58 pmYikes!
(some people’s idea of humor/irony is totally lost on me, Depleted Uranium.)
February 1st, 2007 at 7:59 pmHoly Kow; These keyboard commandos will be crapping their pants the 1st day of boot camp, trust me on this.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pmComment by DU and clusterbombs are a great invention!
Said the chickenhawk.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:01 pmPNAC drive thru menu. I eat here all the time. I give you my morning favorite.
” I`d like one “Stuffed Baked Iraqi” easy on the IEDs.
To that I would also like an Iraqi Twister and go heavy on the terrorist sauce please. I would also like an order of Iraqi-Small-Frys (kids) with extra insurgency sauce and a plain old dill pickle on the side. For desert I would like “One Old Prune” ( a raped and sodomized elderly Iraqi woman ), heavy on the veil! “
February 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmHoly Kow; These keyboard commandos will be crapping their pants the 1st day of boot camp, trust me on this.
Comment by Uncle_Ho
We can get some depends for them =)
February 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pmComment by DU and clusterbombs are a great invention!
This sounds alot like they failed academic chickenhawk paste eater Jeff Goldstein.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:04 pmHoly Kow=unbelievable
February 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pmComment by How many terrorists have YOU killed in defense of your country\
Aww go stuff your face with cheetos and go watch American Idle chickenhawk, you know you don’t ever plan on serving.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:06 pmHoly Kow; These keyboard commandos will be crapping their pants the 1st day of boot camp, trust me on this.
Comment by Uncle_Ho
They would never get that far, having remembered an important appointment in Canada.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pmHoly Kow=unbelievable
Comment by spermjet 2000
Are you gonna start that inane rambling of yours again?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:07 pmHoly Kow=unbelievable
Comment by spermjet 2000
Try again.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmuncle ho?
why not just stcik a 38 in your mouth and pull the trigger to make your dead buddies image go away?
Make sure you suck on the bulet first and leave a toothmark in the casing before chambering it so the police will know it was indeed suicide.
It is the least you could do for your buddy that you let die.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmspermjet 2000=Jeff Goldstein asperger deluxe and failed academic.
Girly man.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:08 pmI guess all the Trolls (Kevin) are down at the Army Office signing
the papers.
Oh Kevin don’t let the DU (depleted Uranium) worry you. If the neo-con
world science and Fact are a non issue.
Have a nice Tour. and it you live maybe they will send your sorry A_-_
February 1st, 2007 at 8:09 pmback for a 2, 3 and 4th Tour!
uncle ho?
why not just stcik a 38 in your mouth and pull the trigger to make your dead buddies image go away?
Make sure you suck on the bulet first and leave a toothmark in the casing before chambering it so the police will know it was indeed suicide.
It is the least you could do for your buddy that you let die.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:09 pmAt that point, george is on his own. This is his war, and that will be his as well. He ought to consult a brave mind before he procedes.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:12 pmlol Zooey
Hey Goldstein, you still taking your protein wisdom out of the end of your own phallic?
Protein Wisdom. Bwahahaha You talk a great deal but will never serve.
Go put some more diet pills in your Pepsim grab you some fritos, put in your celluloid pornography, and start ingesting your protein.,
February 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pmIt is the least you could do for your buddy that you let die.
Comment by Oliver Twist
Oh my god. You are sick.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:14 pmUNCLE HO IS A KEYBOARD COMMANDO!
JUST ASK HIM!
HE WAS PROTESTING STATESIDE WHILE HIS BUDDY BOUGHT IT IN NAM.
CLEARLY UNCLE HO`S FAULT.
HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
UNCLE HO?
IF YOU DON`T HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT YOURSELF?
MAY I SUGGEST DEATH BY COP FOR YOU?
JUST GO OUT AND DO A BURNOUT IN FRONT OF A COP.
WHEN HE PULLS YOU OVER?
GET OUT OF THE CAR FIRST, AND POINT YOUR CELL PHONE AT HIM.
TELLING HIM YOU ARE GOING TO KILL HIM DOESN`T HURT EITHER.
I AM GIVING YOU THESE INSTRUCTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
HAVE NOT THE BALLS OR THE COURAGE TO TAKE YOUR OWN PITI-
FUL LIFE.
DO IT FOR YOUR BUDDY.
HE IS CALLING YOU.
COWARD.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:15 pmPerfect way to embolden anyone is to know nothing about them. The administration is a perfect artist of violence and war.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:15 pmAmerica is a peace-loving country, and that is why we, and only we have the right to engage in unprovoked attacks and invasions of other countries – because we do it for PEACE.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:16 pmUNCLE HO IS A KEYBOARD COMMANDO!
JUST ASK HIM!
HE WAS PROTESTING STATESIDE WHILE HIS BUDDY BOUGHT IT IN NAM.
CLEARLY UNCLE HO`S FAULT.
HE SHOULD BE PUNISHED.
UNCLE HO?
IF YOU DON`T HAVE THE BALLS TO DO IT YOURSELF?
MAY I SUGGEST DEATH BY COP FOR YOU?
JUST GO OUT AND DO A BURNOUT IN FRONT OF A COP.
WHEN HE PULLS YOU OVER?
GET OUT OF THE CAR FIRST, AND POINT YOUR CELL PHONE AT HIM.
TELLING HIM YOU ARE GOING TO KILL HIM DOESN`T HURT EITHER.
I AM GIVING YOU THESE INSTRUCTIONS BECAUSE I KNOW YOU
HAVE NOT THE BALLS OR THE COURAGE TO TAKE YOUR OWN PITI-
FUL LIFE.
DO IT FOR YOUR BUDDY.
HE IS CALLING YOU.
COWARD.
You have the courage to take all America has to offer yes, and the gall to let EVERYONE ELSE DIE FOR IT SO YOU CAN REMAIN FREE TO ENJOY IT.
YOU SIR ARE WHAT IS COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS A LEECH.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:18 pmt is the least you could do for your buddy that you let die.
Comment by Oliver Twist
Oh my god. You are sick.
Comment by Zooey
Goldstein is a wacko. He has watched way too many movies and actually sees himself as some kind of serpico. A very scared one.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:22 pm> I can`t wait for the bomb bays to open up over the clear desert skies of Iran soon.
Yeah, whatever. So are you ready to live on dometic oil production yet? Or ready to find lots of american tourists or foreign workes nicely but thoroughly lynched arriving at the international airport?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:24 pmspermdumpter( or is it spermdeposit?) I was drafted and protested after I came back after my tour. So I’ve been, done that. WTF is YOUR excuse?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:25 pmHAVE NOT THE BALLS OR THE COURAGE TO TAKE YOUR OWN PITI-FUL LIFE.
Dude is wayyyyy wayyyyy out there.
Goldstein don’t go away mad, hypocrite, just go away.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:25 pmAmerica is a peace loving country… comment by Craig.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Actually, I always thought of America as a piece loving country. Remember, kill for piece. :D heh, heh.
Comment by Uncle_Ho
I could tell by your picture that you were a dog. :)
February 1st, 2007 at 8:37 pmWoof, Woof!
February 1st, 2007 at 8:41 pmIf Bush expands the war into Iran, it would not have anything to do with supporting the troops — it will be because the egomaniac is even further out of control.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:41 pmIf Dems or Repubs charge one another with not supporting the troops if they don’t support this reckless action, then they ALL should be recalled.
With speculation that Bush intends this action widely known, there is no excuse for such intimidation. Bush has to be stopped before his actions make everyone in DC crazy.
Woof, Woof!
Comment by Uncle_Ho
Heh.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:44 pm> If Bush expands the war into Iran, it would not have anything to do with supporting the
> troops
Yeah and I would lke to see lots of confirmation that Iran is actually meddling in Iraq. And more convincing by miles than the last presentation by Powell. Last time I checked, there was no need at all to do so – because Maliki essentially _is_ Iran and he gets money and weapons directly from the source, thank you very much. Faking a casus belli again? It’s a time-honored tradition.
February 1st, 2007 at 8:51 pmZooey, the pic of the vet in the boonie hat, shades, & camo jacket really is me. Honest, for true. It hides my long hair though, (over my ears).
February 1st, 2007 at 8:56 pm
Thanks for the carrier group count, BNF.
Chimpy: in all this excitement I’d lost count myself, did I send 2 or 3 carriers out. Well Ahmadinejad – do you feel lucky, punk?
February 1st, 2007 at 8:56 pmZooey, the pic of the vet in the boonie hat, shades, & camo jacket really is me. Honest, for true. It hides my long hair though, (over my ears).
Comment by Uncle_Ho
I believe you!
February 1st, 2007 at 8:59 pmI can’t tell if this is going to go the way of:
1. The Gleiwitz incident
2. The Maine incident
3. The Gulf of Tonkin
4. The Falklands War
Anyone care to start a sweep?
February 1st, 2007 at 9:00 pmIran started the war by supplying the insurgents. The President of Iran has called for the destruction of Israel and the US. Will it take a Nuke to go off on in a public market in Israel before you want to act? Or maybe you will wait till they set one off in the US.
#1 – We supplied the Mujahedeen (including the Taliban) during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. By your logic, the USSR would have been within its rights to conduct a first strike against the US. We supplied the Contras in Nicaragua. By your logic, the Nicaraguan government would have been within its rights to conduct a first-strike against the US. Etc, etc.
#2 – Will it take a nuke going off in Israel? Yes, it will, because we cannot know the future. Also, doesn’t Israel possess a great deal of nuclear, bio and chem weapons? I think they’re more than able to defend themselves, thank you very much. And if Iran attacked them, they know Israel would wipe them out. Kind of like the US and the USSR during the Cold War. Not the most ideal of situations, but since we weren’t that interested in nuclear non-proliferation, about the best you can do.
#3 – The Iranian leader did not call for the destruction of the US, nor the destruction of Israel.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:06 pmDo any of the arsenecks in the right wing nutosphere know anything about the history of Iran and its people and its culture? Obviously, many of the neo-cons do but they don’t care. But what about idiots like Kevin who just repeat the talking points that the neo-cons spoon feed to people like him?
Quick primer. Iran – constantly screwed by foreign intervention throughout the 19th and 20th century. Iranians all remember this because unlike most Americans, they actually know the political history of their nation (ask any Iranian about the US-led 1953 coup against Mossadegh and I’m sure he won’t have anything nice to say about us). At the same time, a large majority of the folks in Iran don’t like the current regime at all. But, again, at the same time, the last thing they want is some foreigners meddling in their affairs. The surest way to get the average Iranian Joe to stand behind the government that he today despises is to bomb/attack/invade Iran. Count on it.
The last time somebody took military action against Iran – ie, Iraq – young Iranians – Shi’a and Sunni alike – sacrificed themselves as human minesweepers. That wasn’t that long ago. Are we looking for a repeat?
This isn’t a country filled with sword carrying nomads. It’s a largely urban, educated and very literate nation with a lively political discourse and vocal opposition. Are the hard-liners bad news? Yeah. Is Ahmadinejad an idiot? Yes. Does he have any real power? No. The guy he beat in the last election – Rafsanjani – is much more powerful than Ahmadinejad. And Mr. Pistachio king ain’t going to risk getting blown up by the US or Israel because that will be the end of his cash flow. He, like many of the other clerical leaders, care more about their power and riches than spreading Islamic revolution or bringing forth the return of the Mahdi. These are people with whom we can negotiate. And it would have been much easier if we had accepted their overtures in 2003 as opposed to following the Cheney approach of “screw ‘em”. Time to start talking with them instead of at them. And the sooner the better. To use Mike Ledeen’s words against him….Faster, please!
February 1st, 2007 at 9:10 pmHoly Kow=TrueBlue
Check out this statement.
Zooey, the pic of the vet in the boonie hat, shades, & camo jacket really is me. Honest, for true. It hides my long hair though, (over my ears).
Comment by Uncle_Ho
Uncle_Ho inadvertently calls Holy Kow true.
Again, Holy Kow = TrueBlue
I have it archived too TrueBlue ( Holy Kow ) to throw in your face from time to time.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:14 pmBush/Cheney are planning to strike Iran because they’ve been paid to do that by the Saudis. It’s a criminal organization. Wake up.
Talking heads, even Seymour Hersh, like to say that Bush ‘really believes’ what he’s doing is right.
That’s crap.
Bush is doing what he’s been paid billions to do. Give Saudi Arabia and the oil companies control of the Middle East.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:19 pmAgain, Holy Kow = TrueBlue
I have it archived too TrueBlue ( Holy Kow ) to throw in your face from time to time.
Comment by TrueBlue Ouster!
“Honest, for true.” That is a figure of speech. Uncle Ho was not referring to trueblue. And Uncle Ho was talking to me, not Holy Kow.
Get a different hobby.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:25 pmHow is saying,”NO, you cannot widen this war!” harmful to the troops?
February 1st, 2007 at 9:26 pmThe massacre of 250 innocent pilgrims 2 days ago underscores the lie that Bush wants to promote democracy in Iraq.
“Tribal members from both believe the attack was launched by the central government of Baghdad to stifle growing Shia-Sunni unity in the area.”
“American helicopters participated in the slaughter,” Jassim Abbas, a farmer from the area told IPS. “They were soon there to kill those pilgrims without hesitation, but they were never there for helping Iraqis in anything they need. We just watched them getting killed group by group while trapped in those plantations.”
Much of the killing was done by U.S. and British warplanes, eyewitnesses said.”
Official Lies Over Najaf Battle Exposed `
February 1st, 2007 at 9:32 pmhttp://www.commondreams.org/headlines07/0201-02.htm
“Dems, you better not cave to this shit.
They have the f*cking power, and yet they still cave!”
Ha, ha, ha! Zooey, maybe tonight’s the night for us?
February 1st, 2007 at 9:42 pmThe WH is already threatening Repubs with charges of aiding and abetting enemy by supporting non-binding resolutions.
They’re preparing the ground for attacking Iran and preventing any attempts by Repubs or Dems in Congress to stop it.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:46 pmHa, ha, ha! Zooey, maybe tonight’s the night for us?
Comment by michael
F*ckin’ dream on, Master Debater.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:47 pm“We are the only country with rockets and bombs in the national anthem.”
Spudge doesn’t seem to realize the rockets and bombs referenced in the song refer to an attack BY the British ON an American target.
February 1st, 2007 at 9:51 pmThis should be chilling news to every progressive and sane person in the world. The potential blowback [to use an Intel term] is staggering. If people think a bi-partisan non-binding resolution is even going to tap the breaks of this runaway disaster they are severely deluded. We are all at peril here..READ MORE
February 1st, 2007 at 9:59 pmMexico’s National Anthem:
Mexicans, when the trumpet is calling,
Grasp your sword and your harness assemble.
Let the guns with their thunder appalling
Make the Earth’s deep foundations to tremble.
Let the guns with their thunder appalling
Make the Earth’s deep foundations to tremble.
should ever the proud foe assail thee,
And with insolent foot profane they ground,
Know, dear Country, thy sons shall not fail thee,
Ev’ry one thy soldier shall be found,
They soldier ev’ry one shall be found.
Chorus
Blessed Homeland, the children have vowed them
February 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pmIf the bugle to battle should call,
They will fight with the last breath allowed them
Ireland’s National Anthem:
In valley green, on towering crag,
February 1st, 2007 at 10:12 pmOur fathers fought before us,
And conquered ‘neath the same old flag
That’s proudly floating o’er us.
We’re children of a fighting race,
That never yet has known disgrace,
And as we march, the foe to face,
We’ll chant a soldier’s song
Portugal’s National Anthem:
To arms, to arms
On land and sea!
To arms, to arms
To fight for our Homeland!
To march against the enemy guns!
Unfurl the unconquerable flag
In the bright light of your sky!
Cry out to all Europe and the whole world
That Portugal has not perished.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:21 pm“F*ckin’ dream on, Master Debater”
I don’t know what you are so afraid of? Your peers are starting to question your talents?
February 1st, 2007 at 10:23 pm“President Bush will order air strikes against targets in Iran in the next few months or even weeks”
I certainly hope so!
February 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pmAre we heading towards a President Stillson moment?:
“Gentleman. The missiles are flying. Hallelujah, Hallelujah!”
February 1st, 2007 at 10:24 pmBolivia’s National Anthem:
Eternal praise to the brave warriors
Whose heroic valour and firmness
Conquered the glories that now
A happy Bolivia begins to enjoy!
Let their names, in marble and in bronze,
Transmit to remote ages
And in resounding song repeat the call:
Freedom! Freedom! Freedom!
February 1st, 2007 at 10:28 pmI don’t know what you are so afraid of? Your peers are starting to question your talents?
Comment by michael
Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll.
Do you understand what I’m saying to you, michael?
If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,” they will kindly let me know.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:34 pmOh, now, Spudge…You know you were trying to claim that only the U.S. has military themes and images in its national anthem. As we can now all see, your claim is demontrably false. Several national anthems contain military imagery.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:36 pmGood work Spudge- exley back under rock.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:48 pmThe title of this thread: Concerns over Iran bombing grow.
Where Spudge_Boy has taken it:
I clearly stated that the US is the only country with rockets and bombs in the national anthem.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 1, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Off topic as usual he is.
Some things never change.
No more needs said really.
Nuff` said.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmExley needs to be right, at all costs.
February 1st, 2007 at 10:52 pmOh, Spudge…You are an amusing fellow…So, let’s see. As proof of your assertion that the U.S is not a peaceful country, you wrote that the U.S. was the only nation that mentions rockets and bombs in its national anthem (Even though you did not realize that the rockets and bombs referenced were in fact British weapons being hurled at Americans)….NOW you are trying to claim that national anthems that reference “soldiers,” “arms,”"warriors,”"guns,” “swords,” and “cannons” are not evidence that nations with those anthems are war-like….Heh!
In other words, Spudge, you are now trying to claim that it’s the specific words “rockets” and “bombs” that indicate that the U.S is not a peaceful nation. But words like “guns” “cannons” “soldiers” and “warriors” are no such indication when it comes to other nations.
Hysterical!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:01 pmExley needs to be right, at all costs.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 10:52 pm
February 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pmBut, he never is.
Told ya.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pmI’m still not convinced this is necessary.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:05 pmThese words are just as meaningful today as ever:
For What It’s Worth
by: Buffalo Springfield
featuring: Stephen Stills
February 1st, 2007 at 11:06 pm
But, he never is.
Comment by Joefriday
He’s always quite self-satisfied though. :)
February 1st, 2007 at 11:07 pmEx and Spu,
The line is drawn most peaceful anthem I know, the Official Lyrics of O Canada!
O Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
Ha! They are such pansies, no?
/humor
February 1st, 2007 at 11:10 pmBush is most likely going to attack Iran within the next 2 months, so he has to be forced to resign now or to be impeached immediately!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:10 pmO Canada!
Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:11 pmThanks, wake-n-bake. Very appropriate these days.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:12 pmThe National Anthem of England
February 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pmLand of Hope and Glory
Land of Hope and Glory,
Mother of the free,
How shall we extole thee,
Who are born of thee,
Wider and still wider,
Shall thy bounds be set,
God who made the mighty,
Make thee mightier yet!!,
God who made thee mighty,
Make thee mightier yet!
Comment by wake-n-bake — February 1, 2007 @ 11:10 pm
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — February 1, 2007 @ 11:11 pm
Wow. You two are good. :)
February 1st, 2007 at 11:13 pmIs Exlax pebbledashing this thread now? for such a small sphincter, such a lot of squits comes out.
Sheesh, that Canadian national anthem is so at odds with what I see when they play in that NHL thingy.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:16 pm“Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll”
Interpretation:
I’m too scared! It’s so obvious zooey?
February 1st, 2007 at 11:17 pm“If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know”
No they won’t; they are too embarrassed for you!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmwake&bake, we are thinking along the same paths!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmBNF, I thought it was God Save the Queen (not the Sex Pistols version)
Now there’s a country with a lot of martial songs – the Brits. A bit esoteric though, ‘frustrate their navy’s tricks’.
Hey what about the Marsellaise?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Marseillaise
Strong stuff – even the children’s verse.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmAdvance Australia Fair – The official version
Australians all let us rejoice,
February 1st, 2007 at 11:19 pmFor we are young and free;
We’ve golden soil and wealth for toil,
Our home is girt by sea;
Our land abounds in Nature’s gifts
Of beauty rich and rare;
In history’s page, let every stage
Advance Australia fair!
In joyful strains then let us sing,
“Advance Australia fair!”
Beneath our radiant Southern Cross,
We’ll toil with hearts and hands;
To make this Commonwealth of ours
Renowned of all the lands;
For those who’ve come across the seas
We’ve boundless plains to share;
With courage let us all combine
To advance Australia fair.
In joyful strains then let us sing
“Advance Australia fair!”
Interpretation:
I’m too scared! It’s so obvious zooey?
Comment by michael
Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll.
Do you understand what I’m saying to you, michael?
If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
February 1st, 2007 at 11:20 pm“I clearly stated that the US is the only country with rockets and bombs in the national anthem”
And so?
February 1st, 2007 at 11:21 pmmichael is an anagram for “lame ich”
pick a topic, Michael. State your position. Write a persuasive essay. Post it to my attention. Let’s see if you can do better than my 8th grade students.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmNo they won’t; they are too embarrassed for you!
Comment by michael
Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll.
Do you understand what I’m saying to you, michael?
If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
Briseadh na Faire, tell michael how embarassed you are for me. Please.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:22 pmComment by michael — February 1, 2007 @ 11:19 pm
Did someone fart in here?
February 1st, 2007 at 11:23 pmThis is good:
MARCH ON BAHAMALAND
(I just like the sound of that…Bahamaland)
Lift up your head
February 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmto the rising sun,
Bahamaland;
March on to glory
your bright banners
waving high.
See how the world
marks the manner
of your bearing!
Pledge to excel
through love and unity.
Pressing onward,
march together
to a common loftier goal;
Steady sunward,
tho’ the weather
hide the wide and treachrous shoal.
Lift up your head
to the rising sun, Bahamaland,
‘Til the road you’ve trod
lead unto your God,
March On, Bahamaland.
“Bush is most likely going to attack Iran within the next 2 months, so he has to be forced to resign now or to be impeached immediately!”
Not going to happen Jay. Bombing, yes!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:24 pmBack on topic:
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/013107.html
“Put on a happy face?”
February 1st, 2007 at 11:26 pm“If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know.”
If you say it often enough you might start believing it although I doubt it. Remember? Bush lied, Bush lied, Bush lied! They won’t let you know because they think like you but I’m sure they are wondering why you are so afraid to debate little old me?
February 1st, 2007 at 11:29 pmFound this on crooksandliars.com. Can’t remember if TP covered this. Beware of “facts” and Iran…
[Former European CIA Chief Tyler] Drumheller: I had assured my German friends that ["Curveball's" claims] wouldn’t be in the speech. I really thought that I had put it to bed. I had warned the CIA deputy John McLaughlin that this case could be fabricated. The night before the speech, then CIA director George Tenet called me at home. I said: “Hey Boss, be careful with that German report. It’s supposed to be taken out. There are a lot of problems with that.” He said: “Yeah, yeah. Right. Dont worry about that.”
SPIEGEL: But it turned out to be the centerpiece in Powell’s presentation — and nobody had told him about the doubts.
Drumheller: I turned on the TV in my office, and there it was. So the first thing I thought, having worked in the government all my life, was that we probably gave Powell the wrong speech. We checked our files and found out that they had just ignored it.
SPIEGEL: So the White House just ignored the fact that the whole story might have been untrue?
Drumheller: The policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:31 pmFor good measure, the unofficial Scottish National Anthem,
Scotland the Brave
Hark when the night is falling
Hear! hear the pipes are calling,
Loudly and proudly calling,
Down thro’ the glen.
There where the hills are sleeping,
Now feel the blood a-leaping,
High as the spirits
of the old Highland men.
Chorus
Towering in gallant fame,
Scotland my mountain hame,
High may your proud
standards gloriously wave,
Land of my high endeavour,
Land of the shining river,
Land of my heart for ever,
Scotland the brave.
Aye, there’s lots of civilized countries with century upon century of warfare in their histories, that have opted for non-militaristic anthems.
Perhaps someday the United States will no longer see a need for a national anthem to stir the hearts towards warfare, but instead to inspire beauty and peace.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:33 pmBombing Michael is the same as attacking. Just because bombs will be dropped from the air, and missiles fired at Iran, does not mean they have not been attacked. Pearl Harbor remember was a bombing attack on our Naval fleet in Hawaii by the Japanese. President Roosevelt said the US was attacked. NO invasion of Hawaii occured by Japanese troops.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:35 pmWC – nope TP has been covering Joe Biden’s gob for the last two days. Meanwhile in the real world….
February 1st, 2007 at 11:36 pmFrancis Scot Key’s poem was written to the meter of “To Anacreon in Heaven,” a well-known drinking song of the time. The song was considered so bawdy, no decent woman was allowed to sing it!
Here, then, are the original lyrics:
To Anacreon in Heaven, where he fat in full glee,
A few fons of Harmony fent a petition,
That He their Infpirer and Patron would be;
When this anfwer arrived from the Jolly Old Grecian
“Voice, Fiddle, and Flute,
“no longer be mute,
“I’ll lend you my Name and infpire you to boot,
“And, befides, I’ll infruct you like me to entwine
“The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus’s Vine.
II
The news through OLYMPUS immediately flew;
When OLD THUNDER pretended to give himfelf Airs
“If thefe mortals are fuffer’d their Scheme to perfue,
“The Devil a Goddefs will ftay above the Stairs.
“Hark, already they cry,
“In tranfports of Joy,
“Away to the Sons of ANACREON we’ll fly,
“And there, with good Fellows, we’ll learn to entwine
“The Myrtle of VENUS with BUCCUS’S Vine.
III
“The YELLOW-HAIRED GOD and his nine fufty Maids
“From Helicon’s Banks will incontinent flee,
“IDALIA will boaft but of tenantlefs Shades,
“And the bi-forked Hill a mere Desart will be
“My Thunder, no fear on’t,
“Shall foon do it’s Errand,
” and, dam’me! I’ll fwinge the Ringleaders, I warrant,
“I’ll trim the young Dogs, for thus daring to twine
“The Myrtle of VENUS with BACCUS’S Vine.
IV
APOLLO rose up; and faid, “Pr’ythee ne’er quarrel,
“Good King of the Gods, with my Vot’ries below:
“Your Thunder is ufelefs.” – then, fhewing his Laurel,
Cry’d, “Sic evitabile fulmen, you know!
“then over each Head
“My Laurels I’ll fpread;
“So my Sons from your Crackers no Mifchief fhall dread,
“Whilst fnug in their Club-Room, they jovially twine
“The Myrtle of VENUS with BACCUS’S Vine.
V
Next MOMUS got up, with his rifible Phiz,
And fwore with APOLLO he’d cheerfully join
“The full Tide of Harmony ftill shall be his,
“But the Song, and the Catch, & the Laugh fhall be mine
“Then, JOVE, be not jealous
Of thefe honeft Fellows.
Cry’d JOVE, “We relent, fince the Truth you now tell us;
“And fwear, by OLD STYX, that they long fhall entwine
“The Myrtle of VENUS with BACCUS’S Vine.
VI
Ye fons of ANACREON, then, join Hand in Hand;
Preferve Unanimity, Friendfhip, and Love!
‘Tis your’s to fupport what’s fo happily plann’d;
You’ve the Sanction of Gods, and the FIAT of Jove.
While thus we agree
Our Toaft let it be.
May our club flourish happy, united and free!
And long may the Sons of ANACREON intwine
The Myrtle of VENUS with BACCUS’S Vine.
It’s nice to know the American National Anthem was set to the tune of a raunchy drinking song which espoused Animal-House type orgies!
February 1st, 2007 at 11:37 pmZooey, I think you have one of those little yap yap dogs trying to f*** your leg….
February 1st, 2007 at 11:38 pmThis is worth repeating. Pound this into your memory, it should be the drumbeat of the Impeachment battlecry:
February 1st, 2007 at 11:39 pm
Zooey, I think you have one of those little yap yap dogs trying to f*** your leg….
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
I’m gonna take him to the vet and have him put down.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:42 pm“Bush could ask for a congressional vote of support…which many Democrats would feel obliged to endorse or risk looking like they weren’t supportive of the troops.â€
STUPID.
I don’t buy the ’support the troop” argument on a judgement to declare war against another country. That’s absolute horsesh*t.
February 1st, 2007 at 11:48 pmBriseadh na Faire, tell michael how embarassed you are for me. Please.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 11:22 pm
Well, gee, Miss Zooey, I dunno. Am I embarassed fer ya? Gosh, I didn’t know I was supposed to be embarrassed fer ya.
But that there michael…he seems aimin’ fer a fight. An’ it just ain’t proper to pick a fight with a lady such as yerself. So ifn he wants ta fight, he’ll just have to pick on me. ta huh. I’ll take ‘im on with one Thesauraus tied behind my back. ‘Course, ya know I hate to git into a battle of wits with an unarmed man…
[/John Wayne]
February 1st, 2007 at 11:49 pm‘Course, ya know I hate to git into a battle of wits with an unarmed man…
[/John Wayne]
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Thank you, John…..er, Briseadh na Faire. :-D
February 1st, 2007 at 11:54 pmIt must be past lil michael’s bed time.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:01 amWhoever relies on the Tao in governing men
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:03 amdoesn’t try to force issues
or defeat enemies by force of arms.
For every force there is a counterforce.
Violence, even well intentioned,
always rebounds upon oneself.
Well, Bush thinks he’s untouchable, and apparently he’s right:
Stanley Hilton’s $7 billion federal class action lawsuit against the Bush Administration for its complicity in the attacks has been thrown out. It’s interesting to note the ruling was based on the “Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity”. “In other words, the suit was not dismissed because of lack of evidence, but rather because the judge reasoned that U.S. Citizens do not have the right to hold a sitting President accountable for anything, even if the charges include premeditated mass murder and premeditated acts of high treason.”
CONGRESS???? It’s up to you.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:10 amAlso michael > remember when 9-11-01 happened > Bush said America was attacked. Planes were turned into flying bombs in New York City, but NO invasion occured. When Bush bombs Iran, then Iranians will rightly claim they have been attacked by the US. It would/will be their Pearl Harbor and we become the Imperial fascist Japanese.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:11 amThe title of this thread: Concerns over Iran bombing grow.
Where Spudge_Boy has taken it:
I clearly stated that the US is the only country with rockets and bombs in the national anthem.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 1, 2007 @ 10:40 pm
Off topic as usual he is.
Some things never change.
No more needs said really.
Nuff` said.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:13 amThe title of this thread: Concerns over Iran bombing grow.
Where Jay Randal has taken it:
Also michael > remember when 9-11-01 happened > Bush said America was attacked.
Comment by Jay Randal — February 2, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Off topic as usual they are.
Some things never change.
No more needs said really.
Nuff` said.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:18 amNo more needs said really.
Nuff` said.
Well then, take your own imperative advice and stick a sock in it.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 ammoral whatever your posts are way off topic, so go to redstate.com!
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:29 amhttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/01/31/MNGQCNS3NE1.DTL
GOP fears war could harm GOP for years.
Just like I said earlier =)
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:36 amWhoever relies on the Tao in governing men
doesn’t try to force issues
or defeat enemies by force of arms.
For every force there is a counterforce.
Violence, even well intentioned,
always rebounds upon oneself.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I agree.
Live and let live while administering Justice, that the goal of the United States. Today we are governed by spoiled men, far removed from war, who have lost their virtue and have become callous, careless, empty vessels concerned but with material things.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:49 amO’ for the days of yore
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 amwhen the senators enaged
in battles of the sword
A&Pe Man must like to hear itself type.
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February 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 amThe NSM Woman’s Division would like YOU to attend another of our rallies, you are in luck! We have 5 rallies coming up this summer. I will email you with the particulars. It looks like you have quite a few more posters than you did last year, this ought to bolster our presence in futeure rallies. Please try to spread the word to your posters and your staff that you are welcome to attend our rallies with open arms at anytime you so desire. Our hospitality during demonstrations is second to none. Thanks for volunteering last year with the food and drinks wagon TP posters and staff. It was a blast!
Hope to see you again this year.
February 2nd, 2007 at 3:09 amWe`ll bring the beer brats!
All are welcome!
Tell a friend!
Iran started the war by supplying the insurgents. The President of Iran has called for the destruction of Israel and the US. Will it take a Nuke to go off on in a public market in Israel before you want to act? Or maybe you will wait till they set one off in the US.
Comment by Kevin
Hey Kevin, I heard something similar in 2002-3. Some Pro-Israeli lobbyists and media telling us that its a matter of time, before Saddam takes out Israel and we have a big cloud of mushroom down here in the US.
But what happened? Instead, we have Exxon-Mobil, Haliborton, and Chevron coming up with staggering profits. We’d several Israeli contractors getting big lumps of cash from signed war contracts. And many weapon, pharma, security, and oil guys getting their large cuts of the billions that Bush spends on the war weekly; while we the ordinary people only get weekly bodybags of our friends and loved from Iraq getting fedexed down the morgue here. Then after excess bodies are shipped home, what happens, (Faux, CNN, Times and the other mouthpieces start shouting: Full throtle to Iran…) More soldiers needed to die for Israel. Pathetic!
If you passionately want our boys down to help you kill the new monster you want wiped off the map, well, you’d better call the crews of Faux, CNN & Times to come up with new tales & breaking news, because we are sick of all this sh***ty terrorism and wipe-off crap.
And, isn’t it funny, the big money feels really good. Just keep the war going. Send more hungry kids who can’t pay for their college down the grinder. The number of dead US military men doesn’t mean a sh*t to the Israelis or to their selected moron in the Whithouse. So far their enemie are wiped off, and there is enough cash and oil to be gained from the war.
Well, I think, its time the IDF start some real fighting. Maybe its time gen. daniel tells the entire staff to get their lazy asses off the streets of Gaza where all they do is smoke, booze and shoot old senile grandpas, and kids throwing stones at their tanks. Get real Kevin, its time you people stop pushing the world upside down like you haven’t gotten enough of the damages only the nazis owed. Our boys are tired of killing and bleeding for a nation that was found on injustice, lies and deception. You can’t fool us forever.
February 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 amMutually Assured Destruction still works. I don’t care what Iran’s wacko president said, Iran isn’t inclined to fire nuclear weapons at Israel any more than the US is inclined to fire missiles at China. The self preservation thing kicks in.
The BBC’s been discussing the Bush Admin’s efforts to get people into the mood for a fight with Iran. In the US and Iran, we’ve got two nationalist presidents who get high on talking tough. They both try to appeal to their base in international matters because their domestic policies aren’t doing well. In the mentality they seem to share, an international crisis can only be solved with absolute victory for one and utter defeat and humiliation for the other. Their rhetoric can only be ratcheted upward while they play “chicken”.
exley- thanks for the national anthems. Seriously. They were interesting.
I don’t know the Vatican’s national anthem, because I was only able to find the lyrics in Latin. The first line’s something like “Agricola canem habebat et Bingo nomen est”
February 2nd, 2007 at 5:24 amBriseadh na Faire: For good measure, the unofficial Scottish National Anthem, Scotland the Brave
Actually, the unofficial Scottish National Anthem is Roy Williamson’s Flower of Scotland – which, while also containing military themes (harkening back to Banncokburn – though “those days are past now, and in the past they must remain”), is a far better song than Scotland the Brave.
/piper & fiddler
February 2nd, 2007 at 7:01 am//hates Scotland the Brave
///probably because of the thousands of times I’ve played it
BULLY BY NAME BULLY BY NATUREfriggin idiots
ask yourself one question do you think Finalnd or sweden fears an iranian bomb ………NO …why do you answer change your bloody foreign policy before we end up in bloody perpetual war
February 2nd, 2007 at 8:10 amGreetings from the Federation of Oil Unions in Iraq
To our esteemed brothers and sisters in War on Want
Please accept our sincere apologies for not being able to attend your conference. This is due to the difficult and dangerous times that are the reality of Iraq at present. This awful situation is directly the result of occupation and the terrorists who target the people of Iraq. We believe that America is complicit in all the acts of death and destruction that occur daily in our wounded Iraq. It is clear to us that the aim of American planning and invasion is to destroy the infrastructure of the country and to create civil strife and conflict between the components of Iraqi society. The sectarianism that is tearing Iraq apart was unknown before the occupation. Even the long war with Iran and the brutal sanctions regime did not fracture the unity of the Iraqi people.
The Iraqi people will remain united in the face of these crimes that are orchestrated by the occupying American forces. I implore the peace loving people of the west who believe in genuine democracy to stand with the Iraqi people in their hour of need. The Iraqi people will rise to expel the occupying forces and start the mammoth task of reconstruction with Iraqi hands, and help from the peace loving people of the world.
And I particularly say to America “hands off Iraqi oilâ€. This wealth belongs to the people of Iraq and the decent people of the world.
I wish you every success with your conference and please do not forget Iraq and its people. Your support of our civil institutions is much appreciated.
To our friends in “War on Wantâ€, thank you for your financial support. It was thanks to your gracious support that our second privatisation conference in Basra was a success.
Finally, I say to you that the Iraqi people believe in peace and genuine democracy and not Bush’s fake democracy built on death and destruction.
Hassan Juma’a Awad Al-Asadi.
February 2nd, 2007 at 8:21 amHead of Federation of Iraqi Oil Unions
18/01/07
Comment by PeterW — February 2, 2007 @ 7:01 am
Also in the running for the unofficial Scottish National Anthem is “Scots wae hae.”
February 2nd, 2007 at 8:53 amNo more needs said really.
Nuff` said.
Comment by moral interpitude — February 2, 2007 @ 12:13 am
Good! Then we won’t be hearing from you any more.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 amImpeach now!!!! Remove the maniac from office. The US cannot afford to let this warmonger drag the planet into oblivion.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 amKevin, because you feel so strongly about sending more soldiers we don’t have to war, I take it you’ll be enlisting soon, yes?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 ami know the whole ‘bush is pure evil’ meme has run its course…
Comment by m #11
That’s no “meme”…
…it’s a fact…
…and Bushiva is still here…
…therefore, evil’s course continues…
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 am#8
Iran started the war by supplying the insurgents.
No. George Bush started the war by invading and occupying Iraq.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:46 amI really hope the Congress doesn’t STILL buy into the whole “not supporting troops” BS. It’s time to take a stand.
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:23 pm