Comments on: Americans think military should allow gays to serve. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/ Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:50:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » AUDIO: Top U.S. General Calls Homosexuality ‘Immoral,’ Compares To Adultery http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-2172218 Think Progress » AUDIO: Top U.S. General Calls Homosexuality ‘Immoral,’ Compares To Adultery Tue, 13 Mar 2007 01:12:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-2172218 [...] Pace’s bigoted remarks expose the flawed foundation of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and show Pace to be in the minority. A Dec. 2006 Zogby poll of U.S. soldiers found that nearly three in four troops (73 percent) say “they are personally comfortable in the presence of gays and lesbians,” and a Harris poll last month showed that 55 percent of Americans “think gays and lesbians should be allowed to serve openly in the military.” [...] [...] Pace’s bigoted remarks expose the flawed foundation of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, and show Pace to be in the minority. A Dec. 2006 Zogby poll of U.S. soldiers found that nearly three in four troops (73 percent) say “they are personally comfortable in the presence of gays and lesbians,” and a Harris poll last month showed that 55 percent of Americans “think gays and lesbians should be allowed to serve openly in the military.” [...]

]]> By: ashleyy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1713960 ashleyy Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:54:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1713960 HMM i THiNK DAT GAYSZ SH0UlD J0iN THE MiliTARYY ! iT D0ESNT MATTER iF THERE GAY 0R N0T! THEY SH0UlD STYll B ABlE T0 SERVE! HMM i THiNK DAT GAYSZ SH0UlD J0iN THE MiliTARYY !
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]]> By: aaron silver http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1638303 aaron silver Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:17:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1638303 Concerning the issue of whether gays should be allowed to openly serve in the military or not has to be considered one the most ridiculous policys ever. This encourages men and woman to start their careers based on a lie from the outset. The don't ask don't tell policy, is considered so outragously dumb within the European communities. One doesn't even have to give this issue much thought in order to realize that it is not only an ineffective policy but stunningly ridiculous. This also serves as a contemporary reminder of our countries history of descrimination. Even within the African American communities decades ago and disrimination they themelves did to each other based on skin color. At many of the clubs in New York and other major cities there would be a man at the door holding a brown paper bag. As patrons would come up to enter the club they first had to "pass the brown paper bag test". This test was used to determine who was worth entering the establisment and who were not. One would have to be no darker than the brown paper big as the criteria necessary to be eligable for entry. As I pour through history books of all sorts and even what I personally witnessed in this modern age of ours, their are still bizaare prejudices still happening. It is so intersting to me as a frustrated social anthropolgist to read historical facts concerning subcultures in general within American culture and how they were treated as lesser than. However, my interest in modern day prejudices have now turned into disgust and anger as I witness contempory predjides still being played out all over the world. most often these prejudices were based on;religious diffences, racial discrimation,educatd versus uneducted. A persons heart has no meaning, these issues are based soley on appearences, and the list goes on and on. What I see at the root cause for these disciminations is fear. What we don't undertand we fear. People react to fear in many ways, and ones children pick up on our reactions toward people or cultures unlike their own. So many people live their lives from a reactive perspective that children, being the sponges that they are will began the viscious cycle of descrimation of all sorts. Where it is about gays, blacks, brown people or people with far the eatern Asian apperances Particularly our heads of state create fear in each other. They too then become reactive toward the anyone that doesn't share or same color, religious routines, accents, manner of dress ets In my opinion the reason we have trouble accepting other ways of being and living is because as human beings were are all so driven by learned fear of diffences. Difference are what give the world it's richness of being, and it is God or the universes way of demonstrating the beauty that is within us all. We need to pay better attention to the beauty that is tuly within us all. So very many of us have lost our abilities to see and feel beauty. There is beauty in the sublime. We MUST PAY BETTER ATTENTION TO THE BEAUTY THAT IS WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OURSELVES. I am convinced when one become comfortable within their own skin, it will show on the outside. I believe if we all experienced those delicious moments that may be fleeting but even so we are left with the undestanding that there is a better way, and that beauty surrounds us all, and within us all. Thank your, Aaron Jason Siver www.aaronjasonsilver.com Concerning the issue of whether gays should be allowed to openly serve in the military or not has to be considered one the most ridiculous policys ever. This encourages men and woman to start their careers based on a lie from the outset. The don’t ask don’t tell policy, is considered so outragously dumb within the European communities. One doesn’t even have to give this issue much thought in order to realize that it is not only an ineffective policy but stunningly ridiculous. This also serves as a contemporary reminder of our countries history of descrimination. Even within the African American communities decades ago and disrimination they themelves did to each other based on skin color. At many of the clubs in New York and other major cities there would be a man at the door holding a brown paper bag. As patrons would come up to enter the club they first had to “pass the brown paper bag test”. This test was used to determine who was worth entering the establisment and who were not. One would have to be no darker than the brown paper big as the criteria necessary to be eligable for entry. As I pour through history books of all sorts and even what I personally witnessed in this modern age of ours, their are still bizaare prejudices still happening. It is so intersting to me as a frustrated social anthropolgist to read historical facts concerning subcultures in general within American culture and how they were treated as lesser than. However, my interest in modern day prejudices have now turned into disgust and anger as I witness contempory predjides still being played out all over the world.

most often these prejudices were based on;religious diffences, racial discrimation,educatd versus uneducted. A persons heart has no meaning, these issues are based soley on appearences, and the list goes on and on. What I see at the root cause for these disciminations is fear. What we don’t undertand we fear. People react to fear in many ways, and ones children pick up on our reactions toward people or cultures unlike their own.
So many people live their lives from a reactive perspective that children, being the sponges that they are will began the viscious cycle of descrimation of all sorts. Where it is about gays, blacks, brown people or people with far the eatern Asian apperances Particularly our heads of state create fear in each other. They too then become reactive toward the anyone that doesn’t share or same color, religious routines, accents, manner of dress ets In my opinion the reason we have trouble accepting other ways of being and living is because as human beings were are all so driven by learned fear of diffences. Difference are what give the world it’s richness of being, and it is God or the universes way of demonstrating the beauty that is within us all. We need to pay better attention to the beauty that is tuly within us all. So very many of us have lost our abilities to see and feel beauty. There is beauty in the sublime. We MUST PAY BETTER ATTENTION TO THE BEAUTY THAT IS WITHIN AND OUTSIDE OURSELVES. I am convinced when one become comfortable within their own skin, it will show on the outside. I believe if we all experienced those delicious moments that may be fleeting but even so we are left with the undestanding that there is a better way, and that beauty surrounds us all, and within us all. Thank your, Aaron Jason Siver http://www.aaronjasonsilver.com

]]> By: Helen Rainier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1625997 Helen Rainier Sat, 03 Feb 2007 14:24:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1625997 There have been gays in the service for decades. When I was stationed at Ft Bragg 20 years ago there were gays and bisexuals. They were some of the best soldiers in our unit. It is appalling to me that this is still such an issue. There have been gays in the service for decades. When I was stationed at Ft Bragg 20 years ago there were gays and bisexuals. They were some of the best soldiers in our unit. It is appalling to me that this is still such an issue.

]]> By: hacker bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1615803 hacker bob Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:54:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615803 Comment by curious Even if a deployed environment you have "down time". You sit around and BS with your buddies, etc. You and you buddies having a private conversation is quite different that talking about it in a platoon evnironment where everyone is party to the conversation. If you want pictures in your living quarters, that is different than having them in your workplace. Comment by curious

Even if a deployed environment you have “down time”. You sit around and BS with your buddies, etc. You and you buddies having a private conversation is quite different that talking about it in a platoon evnironment where everyone is party to the conversation.

If you want pictures in your living quarters, that is different than having them in your workplace.

]]> By: curious http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1615733 curious Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:43:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615733 <em>Keep your private homelife at home. Comment by hacker bob — February 2, 2007 @ 2:56 pm</em> I have never served, but I can imagine that being thousands of miles from home and families, having to face death constantly, and having to be <strong><em> "in the workplace"</em> </strong>24/7 for months on ends... I simply cann't imagine how one can possibly NEVER talks about his wife or children (assuming that this person's family actually means something to him)... especially if you can't even have pictures around... hacker bob, are you really going to ask all the heterosexual soldiers to keep their <em>"private homelife at home"</em>?? you really believe that is fair to them? humane even? if there is any doubt that these standards are not reasonable to ask of heterosexual soldiers , than it is not fair for gays neither, period. Keep your private homelife at home.

Comment by hacker bob — February 2, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

I have never served, but I can imagine that being thousands of miles from home and families, having to face death constantly, and having to be “in the workplace” 24/7 for months on ends… I simply cann’t imagine how one can possibly NEVER talks about his wife or children (assuming that this person’s family actually means something to him)… especially if you can’t even have pictures around… hacker bob, are you really going to ask all the heterosexual soldiers to keep their “private homelife at home”?? you really believe that is fair to them? humane even? if there is any doubt that these standards are not reasonable to ask of heterosexual soldiers , than it is not fair for gays neither, period.

]]> By: hacker bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-2/#comment-1615681 hacker bob Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:35:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615681 #50 <em>So, if you were out at a mall with your wife and kids and saw two guys or two girls holding hands or making out then you’d have no problems with that at all. Well, at least your consistent! ;-)</em> Kissing or holding hands, no problem at all. Now making out is a different story. I would not care if it is man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman, I find it all to be inappropriote public behavior and nothing more. God I sound like the prude that I am not. <em>At work, I only bring up my partner when people start talking about their wives/girlfriends or husbands/boyfriends. Once they start, I feel it’s license to talk about personal things like that.</em> I agree. If relationships are the topic at hand, and you are party to the conversation, then your input and experience has been invited. #50
So, if you were out at a mall with your wife and kids and saw two guys or two girls holding hands or making out then you’d have no problems with that at all. Well, at least your consistent! ;-)

Kissing or holding hands, no problem at all. Now making out is a different story. I would not care if it is man and woman, man and man, or woman and woman, I find it all to be inappropriote public behavior and nothing more.

God I sound like the prude that I am not.

At work, I only bring up my partner when people start talking about their wives/girlfriends or husbands/boyfriends. Once they start, I feel it’s license to talk about personal things like that.

I agree. If relationships are the topic at hand, and you are party to the conversation, then your input and experience has been invited.

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615580 Democrat Soldier Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:23:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615580 #49 - "I would not ask for a standard to be placed on someone that I would not apply to myself." Comment by hacker bob — February 2, 2007 @ 2:56 pm So, if you were out at a mall with your wife and kids and saw two guys or two girls holding hands or making out then you'd have no problems with that at all. Well, at least your consistent! ;-) At work, I only bring up my partner when people start talking about their wives/girlfriends or husbands/boyfriends. Once they start, I feel it's license to talk about personal things like that. #49 – “I would not ask for a standard to be placed on someone that I would not apply to myself.” Comment by hacker bob — February 2, 2007 @ 2:56 pm

So, if you were out at a mall with your wife and kids and saw two guys or two girls holding hands or making out then you’d have no problems with that at all. Well, at least your consistent! ;-)

At work, I only bring up my partner when people start talking about their wives/girlfriends or husbands/boyfriends. Once they start, I feel it’s license to talk about personal things like that.

]]> By: hacker bob http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615344 hacker bob Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:56:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615344 Comment by Democrat Soldier As it relates to post #46. I do not hold hands with or kiss my wife in the workplace. That is not the place for it. I do not discuss my family in the workplace either, unless asked about them. I do not even have pictures of my wife and kids on my desk. That is just who I am. I also repremand those that talk about how the "scored" the night before, as that does not belong in the workplace either. All those behavors are unprofessional. Now, outside of the workplace, I hold hands, kiss, brag like a dad, etc. Outside of the workplace, I do not care what one talks about or does, so long as it is legal. If someone wants to hold hands with their significant other so be it. that is your life. But when you life and my life intertwine in the workplace, there has to be some give and take from both of us. I would not ask for a standard to be placed on someone that I would not apply to myself. Keep your private homelife at home. Comment by Democrat Soldier

As it relates to post #46.

I do not hold hands with or kiss my wife in the workplace. That is not the place for it. I do not discuss my family in the workplace either, unless asked about them. I do not even have pictures of my wife and kids on my desk. That is just who I am. I also repremand those that talk about how the “scored” the night before, as that does not belong in the workplace either. All those behavors are unprofessional.

Now, outside of the workplace, I hold hands, kiss, brag like a dad, etc. Outside of the workplace, I do not care what one talks about or does, so long as it is legal. If someone wants to hold hands with their significant other so be it. that is your life. But when you life and my life intertwine in the workplace, there has to be some give and take from both of us. I would not ask for a standard to be placed on someone that I would not apply to myself.

Keep your private homelife at home.

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615295 ForTruth Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:49:59 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615295 I hear you can look up in the book of lists, all the scriptures which are NEVER read in church. Simply horrid and disgusting stuff. I hear you can look up in the book of lists, all the scriptures which are NEVER read in church. Simply horrid and disgusting stuff.

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615209 Democrat Soldier Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:42:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615209 Daryll, don't forget all the other things that are considered a "sin" in the Bible: A woman touching anything when she's menstruating: SIN! Burn her! A child who "curses" their parents: SIN! Kill the child! Abraham married Sara (his sister): NOT A SIN! Good to go. Yeah, the Bible sure is straight forward in what's sinful and what's not sinful. Why don't you read it sometime? Daryll, don’t forget all the other things that are considered a “sin” in the Bible:

A woman touching anything when she’s menstruating: SIN! Burn her!

A child who “curses” their parents: SIN! Kill the child!

Abraham married Sara (his sister): NOT A SIN! Good to go.

Yeah, the Bible sure is straight forward in what’s sinful and what’s not sinful. Why don’t you read it sometime?

]]> By: Democrat Soldier http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615103 Democrat Soldier Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:35:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615103 I just love it when people say "Keep your sexuality to yourself!" and then go on about how they've got a wife and children and hold hands in public and make out in public. How blind can you be to hypocrisy of that level?!? While I was in the army, I knew exactly one person who was "Oh, didja know I was gay? I am, sweetie!" Needless to say, he wasn't long for the service. Every single straight person I spoke to while I was in the Army just didn't care if gay people were in the service. I just wish all the straight guys I knew didn't constantly talk about scoring the night before, or how much tail they got, or how many women they slept with. THAT was shoving their sexuality in my face! Basically, the people that complain about "shoving your sexuality in my face" are the ones shoving THEIR sexuality in other peoples faces. Go figure. . . . I just love it when people say “Keep your sexuality to yourself!” and then go on about how they’ve got a wife and children and hold hands in public and make out in public. How blind can you be to hypocrisy of that level?!?

While I was in the army, I knew exactly one person who was “Oh, didja know I was gay? I am, sweetie!” Needless to say, he wasn’t long for the service.

Every single straight person I spoke to while I was in the Army just didn’t care if gay people were in the service.

I just wish all the straight guys I knew didn’t constantly talk about scoring the night before, or how much tail they got, or how many women they slept with. THAT was shoving their sexuality in my face!

Basically, the people that complain about “shoving your sexuality in my face” are the ones shoving THEIR sexuality in other peoples faces. Go figure. . . .

]]> By: Earthling http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615057 Earthling Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:31:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615057 Daryll, here's what I believe: You are a latent homosexual so thoroughly ashamed of yourself that you show up here any time there is a post regarding gay people. In order to satisfy your deep hunger to ignore what you truly are, you come here spewing your bible crap, god crap, jesus crap. Like you, it's boring. Does the name "Haggard" ring a bell? You go ahead and read your bible and believe what you want to believe. I personally (as well as tens of millions of others) do not believe in a hateful "god." As far as "God's comments about homosexuality," please do tell us all how God personally spoke to you and made those comments. The bible, Daryll, was written by men. Not Jesus. Not God. Your belief that God took pen in hand and literally wrote the bible is comical at best. You believe being gay is a sin, hence your shame and disgust with yourself. Most people believe being gay is just part of life, like being straight. Your citing murder, adultery, and theft in the same breath as being gay is also laughable. Murder and theft are crimes. Adultery is a bad decision that usually bears bad consequences for the adulterer. Being gay is not a crime nor a bad decision with bad consequences, so please do not place gay in the same category as murder, theft and adultery. Sadly, Daryll, the one who needs to remove satan from his life is you. I hope you do it before you die. If you don't, then, in your belief, you know where you'll be going, the fiery pit of hell. Ouch, that's hot! Daryll, here’s what I believe: You are a latent homosexual so thoroughly ashamed of yourself that you show up here any time there is a post regarding gay people. In order to satisfy your deep hunger to ignore what you truly are, you come here spewing your bible crap, god crap, jesus crap. Like you, it’s boring. Does the name “Haggard” ring a bell? You go ahead and read your bible and believe what you want to believe. I personally (as well as tens of millions of others) do not believe in a hateful “god.” As far as “God’s comments about homosexuality,” please do tell us all how God personally spoke to you and made those comments. The bible, Daryll, was written by men. Not Jesus. Not God. Your belief that God took pen in hand and literally wrote the bible is comical at best. You believe being gay is a sin, hence your shame and disgust with yourself. Most people believe being gay is just part of life, like being straight. Your citing murder, adultery, and theft in the same breath as being gay is also laughable. Murder and theft are crimes. Adultery is a bad decision that usually bears bad consequences for the adulterer. Being gay is not a crime nor a bad decision with bad consequences, so please do not place gay in the same category as murder, theft and adultery. Sadly, Daryll, the one who needs to remove satan from his life is you. I hope you do it before you die. If you don’t, then, in your belief, you know where you’ll be going, the fiery pit of hell. Ouch, that’s hot!

]]> By: Daryll http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1615010 Daryll Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:28:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1615010 I rescind my previous comment. I actually read, "Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN's", blog and it is offensive. Whoever you are, blogger, you have sinned. You have committed an unrighteous act (hate) that is equivalent to homosexuality (sin). Cease and desist your foolish ways. I rescind my previous comment. I actually read, “Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN’s”, blog and it is offensive. Whoever you are, blogger, you have sinned. You have committed an unrighteous act (hate) that is equivalent to homosexuality (sin). Cease and desist your foolish ways.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614922 Gregor Samsa Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:20:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614922 Earthling, ThinkProgress' policy on comments has many of us scratching our head. Certain rather inoffensive posts are censored, some very offensive posts aren't -we still haven't been able to discern a pattern. Also, acist comments and slurs have been allowed to stay in the threads. Some are vile beyond the pale. I don't know what to think other than it might be a good way of showing what Bush cultists are really like. Earthling,

ThinkProgress’ policy on comments has many of us scratching our head.

Certain rather inoffensive posts are censored, some very offensive posts aren’t -we still haven’t been able to discern a pattern.

Also, acist comments and slurs have been allowed to stay in the threads. Some are vile beyond the pale. I don’t know what to think other than it might be a good way of showing what Bush cultists are really like.

]]> By: Daryll http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614860 Daryll Fri, 02 Feb 2007 19:16:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614860 A note to the TP moderator: Posts by this person “Comment by Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN!! — February 2, 2007 @ 12:27 pm” are very offensive. The anti-gay rhetoric filled with hate do not further the discussion in any way. Frankly, because this is a progressive website, I don’t understand why you would allow such comments to be posted without censor. You wouldn’t allow these comments to be posted to this site if they were anti-black, anti-Jew, anti-any minority. What gives? Comment by Earthling — February 2, 2007 @ 1:59 pm You find that specific comment offensive? He's telling the truth. If you find it offensive, have a talk with God (prayer). He'll tell you to read the bible, and you'll find his response to homosexuality. I guess you believe that God's comments about homosexuality are offensive. What's offensive about pointing out sin? Is it offensive to tell a murderer, adulterer, stealer, an individual full of envy or fornicator that they've sinned? I think not. Remove satan from your life, now! A note to the TP moderator: Posts by this person “Comment by Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN!! — February 2, 2007 @ 12:27 pm” are very offensive. The anti-gay rhetoric filled with hate do not further the discussion in any way. Frankly, because this is a progressive website, I don’t understand why you would allow such comments to be posted without censor. You wouldn’t allow these comments to be posted to this site if they were anti-black, anti-Jew, anti-any minority. What gives?

Comment by Earthling — February 2, 2007 @ 1:59 pm

You find that specific comment offensive? He’s telling the truth. If you find it offensive, have a talk with God (prayer). He’ll tell you to read the bible, and you’ll find his response to homosexuality. I guess you believe that God’s comments about homosexuality are offensive. What’s offensive about pointing out sin? Is it offensive to tell a murderer, adulterer, stealer, an individual full of envy or fornicator that they’ve sinned? I think not. Remove satan from your life, now!

]]> By: Earthling http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614217 Earthling Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:59:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614217 Those who want to serve their country, should be allowed to serve their country. I can't think of anyone better to be in our armed forces than those who want to be there. Doesn't matter if they're gay or straight. A note to the TP moderator: Posts by this person "Comment by Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN!! — February 2, 2007 @ 12:27 pm" are very offensive. The anti-gay rhetoric filled with hate do not further the discussion in any way. Frankly, because this is a progressive website, I don't understand why you would allow such comments to be posted without censor. You wouldn't allow these comments to be posted to this site if they were anti-black, anti-Jew, anti-any minority. What gives? Those who want to serve their country, should be allowed to serve their country. I can’t think of anyone better to be in our armed forces than those who want to be there. Doesn’t matter if they’re gay or straight.

A note to the TP moderator: Posts by this person “Comment by Who me gay? Never!! It`s a SIN!! — February 2, 2007 @ 12:27 pm” are very offensive. The anti-gay rhetoric filled with hate do not further the discussion in any way. Frankly, because this is a progressive website, I don’t understand why you would allow such comments to be posted without censor. You wouldn’t allow these comments to be posted to this site if they were anti-black, anti-Jew, anti-any minority. What gives?

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614069 Jay Randal Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:36:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614069 Gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military, but as long as Bush is using soldiers as cannon fodder in his wars for oil, most Gays will pass on joining up till Bush is no longer the president. Gays should be allowed to serve openly in the military, but as long as Bush is using soldiers as cannon fodder in his wars for oil, most Gays will pass on joining up till Bush is no longer the president.

]]> By: Texas Juice http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614060 Texas Juice Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:35:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614060 I served in the navy in the late 80's, early 90's. On a cruiser you get to know everyone pretty well. There were a few gays in the crew and a lot of non-gay, "but we are at sea", groping. The gays were not amongst the gropers though. As long as folks do their jobs and respect the folk they work with, why give a sh*t? Texas Juice I served in the navy in the late 80’s, early 90’s. On a cruiser you get to know everyone pretty well. There were a few gays in the crew and a lot of non-gay, “but we are at sea”, groping. The gays were not amongst the gropers though. As long as folks do their jobs and respect the folk they work with, why give a sh*t?

Texas Juice

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/comment-page-1/#comment-1614008 Gregor Samsa Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:26:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/02/americans-think-military-should-allow-gays-to-serve/#comment-1614008 Daryll shows up, right on cue. Well, actually a little late. Daryll, what makes you believe gay men and women go into the military thinking it's a meat market? Don't they go in just like everyone else, to serve their country? Get a clue already... Daryll shows up, right on cue. Well, actually a little late.

Daryll, what makes you believe gay men and women go into the military thinking it’s a meat market? Don’t they go in just like everyone else, to serve their country?

Get a clue already…

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