ThinkFast: February 2, 2007
ThinkFast: February 2, 2007
A new international climate report reveals that “there can be no question that the increase in greenhouse gases are dominated by human activities.” White House official Sharon Hays called the report “significant,” but stopped short of saying whether it would change President Bush’s policy on greenhouse gas emissions.
Britain plans to put children on “the front line of the battle to save the planet,” by making issues of sustainable development – such as energy saving and recycling – a compulsory part of the school curriculum. In contrast, many schools in the United States are banning An Inconvenient Truth, Al Gore’s global warming documentary.
A long-awaited National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq “outlines an increasingly perilous situation in which the United States has little control and there is a strong possibility of further deterioration.” The document cites sectarian violence — not al Qaeda or Iran — as the primary source of conflict.
-1 percent: The personal savings rate for Americans, now at the “lowest level since the Great Depression.” Economists “warn that the phenomenon exists at a particularly bad time with 78 million baby boomers approaching retirement age.”
The Senate’s vote yesterday to increase the minimum wage included $8.3 billion in tax cuts to small businesses. Since the minimum wage was last raised 10 years ago, Congress has given small businesses $36 billion in tax breaks.
“President Bush’s 2008 budget will call for the largest Pell Grant increase in three decades,” following proposals by the House and the Senate to raise it. The maximum Pell Grant “has remained at $4,050 a year since 2002, lagging behind tuition increases and inflation.”
“The U.S. military drive to train and equip Iraq’s security forces has unwittingly strengthened anti-American Shiite Muslim cleric Muqtada al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia.” Sadr’s militias have heavily infiltrated the Iraqi police and army units that U.S. troops have trained.
Federal Judge Reggie Walton agreed to let prosecutors show video clips of former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan telling reporters in 2003 that former vice presidential aide Lewis “Scooter” Libby “had nothing to do” with leaking information about the wife of a Bush administration critic. See our video compilation HERE.
The Washington Post’s David Ignatius on how the Libby trial reveals a “failed cover-up”: “The White House was worried that the CIA would reveal that it had been pressured in 2002 and early 2003 to support administration claims about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. … The machinations of Cheney, Libby and others were an attempt to weave an alternative narrative that blamed the CIA.”
And finally: Wolfowitz gets some decent socks. “The fashion police came to the rescue of World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz, who made worldwide headlines by revealing his holey socks at a mosque in Turkey last weekend.” See the photographic evidence here. “A Gold Toe rep delivered 21 pairs of dress socks to his office yesterday (labeled ‘rush delivery’), Turkish sock manufacturers mailed a dozen pairs, and employees also presented him with a pair.”
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A long-awaited National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq “outlines an increasingly perilous situation in which the United States has little control and there is a strong possibility of further deterioration.†The document cites Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence — not al Qaeda or Iran — as the primary source of conflict.
Does anyone know if there’s been an estimate on the actual number of extremists in Iraq? Our local paper, in a recent editorial, says that there are “several thousand” that are fighting the creation of a new Iraqi government, and that Americans just need to have patience.
February 2nd, 2007 at 8:56 amCheney’s Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair
…”Can you make out what’s crossed out, Mr. Addington?” Wells asked, according to a copy of the transcript of Tuesday’s court proceedings.
“It says ‘the guy’ and then it says, ‘this Pres.’ and then that is scratched through,” Addington said.
“OK,” Wells said. “Let’s start again. ‘Not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy …’ and then what’s scratched through?” Wells asked Addington again, attempting to establish that Cheney had originally written that President Bush personally asked Libby to beat back Wilson’s criticisms.
“T-h-i-s space P-r-e-s,” Addington said, spelling out the words. “And then it’s got a scratch-through.”
“So it looks like ‘this Pres.?’” Wells asked again.
“Yes sir,” Addington said.
Thus, Cheney’s notes would have read “not going to protect one staffer and sacrifice the guy this Pres. asked to stick his head in the meat grinder because of the incompetence of others.” The words “this Pres.” were crossed out and replaced with “that was,” but are still clearly legible in the document.
February 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 amLink for #2
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:01 amTypo alert – the personal savings rate is -1 percent.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 amhttp://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/013107Z.shtml
Cheney’s Handwritten Notes Implicate Bush in Plame Affair
By Jason Leopold and Marc Ash
t r u t h o u t | Report
Wednesday 31 January 2007
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 amDon’t miss this either:
Drumheller interview with Der Spiegel.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,462782,00.html
First half is about extraordinary rendition.
Second half is about the Iraqi WMD bullcrap. Highlight:
“…never before have I seen the manipulation of intelligence that has played out since Bush took office.”
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:11 am#4 – Thanks for catching that! We’ve changed it.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 am“White House official Sharon Hays called the [climate] report “significant,†but stopped short of saying whether it would change President Bush’s policy on greenhouse gas emissions.”
– She was then given $10,000 from the oil industry for deriding the report. Congratulations, Ms. Hays, you’ve sold out.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:13 amAlso, I posted a couple of days ago about Hugo Chavez being granted the power to legislate by decree. That post never showed up.
I cautioned that even benevolent dictatorships are to be regarded with caution.
Let us pray that he continues to serve his country and do what is in his people’s best interests.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 am$8.3 billion of our money for tax breaks to small business on top of the $36 billion we’ve already given?! I wish they’d define “small business” and exactly what kind of tax break they’re talking about. My husband has a small business, and he certainly hasn’t seen much of a break. I have a feeling these “small businesses” aren’t so small.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:32 am“The Senate’s vote yesterday to increase the minimum wage included $8.3 billion in tax cuts to small businesses. Since the minimum wage was last raised 10 years ago, Congress has given small businesses $36 billion in tax breaks. ”
What ever happened to pay-go. As I see it the Senate just pass a bill that will tack on $8.3 billion in new debt. This is not a good start for the Senate. The Senate needs to enforce their own rules and not even vote on a bill that does not adhere to pay-go rules. And this doesn’t even address the issue of whether these tax breaks are excessive given the breaks they have already been given.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:38 amFrom the Spiegel Article:
It [Europe] has become a training ground for terrorists, especially since the war in Iraq has heralded an underground railroad for militants to go and fight there. It is being used for young fanatics in Europe to be smuggled into Iraq to fight Americans and, assuming they survive, to return home, where they present a more potent threat than they did before they left.
And all along, Bush has been blaming Iran! We should be preparing to attack Eurasia! Eurasia is harboring Terrorists! Eurasia is training Terrorists!
Oceania is at war with Eurasia. Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 amWell, Bush is doing the same against terrorists, right?
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:45 amComment by DallasNE — February 2, 2007 @ 9:38 am
Excellent point, Dallas. And who insisted on increasing the flow of red ink? None other than the Republican Minority. Republicans filibustered the minimum wage bill until they got another $8.3 billion handout for Corporate America.
Think they’ll vote to cut War spending to pay for it?
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:47 amGood morning.
Haven’t really been around.
Might have something to do with the trolls.
Ruined threads all last night.
Time for another walk-off?
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 amhmmmmm……….
This is from Hillary:
Clinton, who reiterated support for the security barrier Israel is building in the West Bank, also said the Palestinians’ governing Hamas should not be recognized until it renounces violence and terrorism and recognizes Israel’s right to exist.
“We believe that Israelis have the right to live in their country without the constant threat of terrorism, war and rocket fire,” she said. “We stand with Israel because it’s a beacon of democracy in the region.”
She is a real progressive, huh? She supports the barrier, like probably she would have supported the building of jewish ghettos back in the Nazi times. Israel is a democracy that oppresses palestinians. What a beacon!
February 2nd, 2007 at 9:57 am-1 percent: The personal savings rate for Americans, now at the “lowest level since the Great Depression.†Economists “warn that the phenomenon exists at a particularly bad time with 78 million baby boomers approaching retirement age.â€
That means that people is eating his savings. So much for the roaring economy, and the tax cuts.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 amFederal Judge Reggie Walton agreed to let prosecutors show video clips of former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan telling reporters in 2003 that former vice presidential aide Lewis “Scooter†Libby “had nothing to do†with leaking information about the wife of a Bush administration critic. See our video compilation HERE.
That would have been awesome to have been able to sit in the courtroom.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:05 amSeems like blogs, and court are the only places the Admin is reminded of thier past statements.
Juan,
Want to take bets on how long that post lasts?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:07 amTalking smack about Hillary or Israel is not allowed here.
:P
AEI offers $10,000 to dispute climate change study
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 amJuan C @ 17
Hillary is just another in a long line of US pols who pay obeisance to Isreali expansion. Last month Edwards was in Isreal praising sharon and mimicing the bush line that nothing including military action was off the table when dealing with Iran.
I would be willing to bet any amount of money that all the dem candidates from Dodd to Vilsack hold the same views.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 amNational Weather Service Libs abandoned their posts:
Libs at the National Weather Service were sooooo busy trying to gather data and run simulations in an attempt to gin up evidence of “global warming”, that they dropped the ball in adequately warning Florida of the storms that have killed at least 14.
Don’t you think libs at the National Weather Service could FIRST do the job our government pays them to do, then, in their spare time, gin up the shaky “global warming” theory?
Good job libs – I guess it wasn’t enough to fail in forecasting Katrina’s path, leading to 1,000 deaths in New Orleans, but you also ignore the seriousness of these storms in FL.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 amIt’s amazing how Juan didn’t comment on THIS story from earlier in the week:
Suicide bomber kills 3 at Israeli bakery
Associated Press Mon Jan 29, 1:30 PM ET
EILAT, Israel – A Palestinian suicide bomber attacked a bakery in this southern Israeli resort town on Monday, killing three people and himself, police said
Yeah, you’re right, Juan…Israel has no right to try and protect themselves from this kind of attack.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 amIgnore the troll.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 am#23 The operative worl is “federalism”. Let’s can Jeb Bush, he’s the responsible.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 amWeapons Have the Ability to Trigger Climate Change
Investigate criminal and murderer Wolfowitz and his friends at the IMF / World Bank / CFR and you’ll see that they are purposely causing Global Warming. They’re purposely creating a “global” enemy that all citizens of the world have to join together to fight. This is a precursor to their goal of ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT. You are experiencing a psychological operation upon the world.
Britain = drinking the “global warming” koolaid and voluntarily participating in the march towards the New World Order.
US by banning An Inconvenient Truth shows that we haven’t drank the “global warming” koolaid yet.
One of Gore’s daughters (Karenna Gore Schiff) married into the elite Schiff banking family! Jacob Schiff helped with the creation of the Federal Reserve (Woodrow Wilson)!
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:19 amIsrael is a democracy that oppresses palestinians.
Comment by Juan C
And how do the Palestinans treat teh Isaelies?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:20 amNo need to bet, klyde…here’s a chart.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:21 am2000&2004 was just karma coming back to bite you for Kennedy in 1960 and then Carter in 1980.
Comment by vote gatherer marionette county
Really? How can you prove that? Got a link to Karma?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 amYeah, you’re right, Juan…Israel has no right to try and protect themselves from this kind of attack.
Comment by Exley
Lets see, jewish boy. Imagine a man going to your place, kicking your wife and kids if you have, kills some members of your family, takes over the house and leaves you only a tiny room for all you and your family. Then that man decides when you can go out, what places you can go, whats your income, the amount of water you can drink, the food you can eat and the activities you can do. If you think thats a joke, go see a movie called Confidencial. I would bet you would want to retaliate…it is in your belic blood.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 am#28 Hacker Bob….See posting #24. That pretty much answers your question.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 amAnd how do the Palestinans treat teh Isaelies?
Comment by hacker bob
Bob, look at this. I dont think they cant treat Israelians nicely.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 am“President Bush’s 2008 budget will call for the largest Pell Grant increase in three decades,†following proposals by the House and the Senate to raise it. The maximum Pell Grant “has remained at $4,050 a year since 2002, lagging behind tuition increases and inflation.â€
Thats actually some good news. Cool.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:28 am#31, Juan,
WOW – never realized that you were an anti-semite!
Careful, the women here aren’t attracted to overt bigotry – all your ass kissing will go to waste …
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:29 amJason why is it that the scientific types and acedemic types are mostly liberal types?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:30 am#23 – “they dropped the ball in adequately warning Florida of the storms that have killed at least 14.” Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 2, 2007 @ 10:12 am
And your proof that these people are “libs” is where?
I think you’re just pulling stuff out your hiney just because you are pre-disposed to hate liberals.
These people MUST be neo-kkkons, because they just don’t care that people died, just like all modern day neo-kkkons.
See how easy it is to spread lies? I took a lesson from you, Mr. Hendler.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 am#36, ForTruth,
Because they worship science, not God ….
In my education, the more of science was revealed to me, the more I recognized the work of God.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 amCareful, the women here aren’t attracted to overt bigotry – all your ass kissing will go to waste …
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Whatever, Jason. If you cant get it up, its not my problem.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 am-1 percent: The personal savings rate for Americans.
I have seen many people today, baby boomer or not, surviving on credit cards.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 am#23: That’s some nice trolling. I see you have no cite for this, other than most likely your own butt.
Speaking of forecasts about Katrina, remember that simulation in which Bush was a participant, then Bush later lied to the country by stating that “no one could have predicted the levees would be breached”?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 am#36 – I can only assume that liberal types are more prone to use the space between their ears for something more than keeping their heads from caving in.
Then again, I’m pre-disposed to assume that neo-kkkons just don’t use their brains as they’re saying “ditto” and swallowing the kool-aid all the time. ;-)
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 am#39, Juan,
Wow, you and unbee must share the same brain (and vagina). She immediately turned to attacking my masculinity, instead of debating points, and you follow suit.
Embrace your inner Eichmann – you are a true anti-semite.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 amJason,
How about we worship nothing, but ourselves and our fellow man/woman.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 amSadr’s militias have heavily infiltrated the Iraqi police and army units that U.S. troops have trained.
One Heckuva Job \/\/ !!
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 amYou know Jason, you are smart and articulate, I bet there are lots of nice ladies on RedState who would simply adore you.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 am#27… research SCALAR and weather on Google, it is an eye opener. It deals with wether “control” and has been taking place for quite a while now. Note the types of clouds that can occur when a weathe pattern is altered through this method.
I do not have enough of a scientific educational background to paraphrase the information here and would rather not make grand errors. It is quite a bit of information, but a very good read.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 amJason M. Hendler sez:
And there it is…the mindless equating of any criticism of Israel with anti-semitism…bound to pop up in any conversation involving Israel.
Jason, it was already pretty clear how intellectually lazy you are, but thanks for further clarifying your position as an avowed anti-rational.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 amJason knows how to spell Vagina, I bet he had to go wash his hands after typing that.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 am#44, ForTruth,
Admitting your faults is the first step to recovery. Worshipping yourselves and your fellow man leads to the type of arrogance that leads to massive loss of lives – your scientifically designed levees fell before a single storm, and the storm accepted the lives of over 1,000 as payment for your hubris.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 amJason,
What is the meaning of life?
(since he has all the answers, what the heck)
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 am#48, trip,
My identification of Juan as an anti-semite wasn’t based on his arguments, it was from his calling Exley a jew-boy. No inferrence necessary.
#49, ForTruth,
Wouldn’t you prefer a real man to wash his hands before, instead of just after? You must have some rancid cultures growing in there.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 amTripMaster,
I don’t think anyone is equating criticism of Israeli policies with anti-Semitism.
However, use of this terminology: “Lets see, jewish boy” by Juan is troubling.
Juan could have made his point about Israel and Palestine without such phraseology.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 amIn my education, the more of science was revealed to me, the more I recognized the work of God.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Hmm. So the tree of knowledge, which God told you not to take of, you took of?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 amI think maybe the old Serpent has fooled you.
She immediately turned to attacking my masculinity, instead of debating points, and you follow suit.
Embrace your inner Eichmann – you are a true anti-semite.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Im not attacking you. Im describing you. You do nothing but attack yourself every single time you post: Destroy all the dems, call me when you want a real man, etc.
On another thread about Bush daughters you said to some poster: if we were in the same room I will fight you. Now, thats inferiority complex. And bragging about you know nothing about like Climate Change and defending fiction writers is attacking your intelligence once more. Every time you say that you made huge profits for your company and your patents and whatever, you are showing that huge inferiority complex you have about yourself.
And Im not an anti-semite. Please, its getting old.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 amJason,
The science behind the existing levees was somewhat ignored, thats why they failed. When they were built, the quality was shoddy.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 amJason, funny, I thought a huge advocate for and supporter of Accu-Weather, for example, was Ricky Sanortum. He certainly had an enormous interest in weather – an unusual coonection to weather – for a Neo-con, as they do not embrace science like us libs. IS Rick a lib now??? Must’ve missed that memo.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 amJust like any typical neo-kkkon, Mr. Hendler immediately reverts to ad-hominem attacks when the content of his posts are questioned.
Mr. Hendler makes unfounded assertions, provides no support for his claims, and then attacks people that ask for him to support his post.
Yup, typical neo-kkkon behavior.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 amBob, look at this. I dont think they cant treat Israelians nicely.
Comment by Juan C
So, never mind the blowin up of bakeries, and bus attacks, rocket attacks, kidnapings, etc. Isreal has a better military, therefore better able to defend themselves, and at times go on the offensive. All the violence is Isreals fault? Sorry, don’t buy it.
Maybe the Palestinians should stop trying to bring a knife to a gunfight. Maybe thay can stop terrorist attacks on Isreal, then maybe Isreal will not use their military against them.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 am#49, ForTruth,
Wouldn’t you prefer a real man to wash his hands before, instead of just after? You must have some rancid cultures growing in there.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
How would you know? Do you read about how it all works? Some women actually see to it that they are clean, imagine that.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 amyour scientifically designed levees fell before a single storm, and the storm accepted the lives of over 1,000 as payment for your hubris.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
But in the post above you just embraced science as a path to God???
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 am#51, ForTruth,
Our mortality gives our lives meaning. It is our charge to inherit the world from our forebearers, improve upon it, then train and bequeath the world to our progeny.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 amJuan could have made his point about Israel and Palestine without such phraseology.
Comment by Exley
It was a remark. There is nothing insulting in what I said, though. What gets me is that everybody defends Israel. I met a lot of jewish boys in the university, exchange students. They were nice, polite and they didnt support what their country was doing to Palestine. If you say that Israel has killed a hell lot more palestinians, oppressed them and practically committed genocide, you are anti-semite. But nobody is called anti-russian when Nazis killed 17 million russians. So, whats the double standard for?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 amOur mortality gives our lives meaning. It is our charge to inherit the world from our forebearers, improve upon it, then train and bequeath the world to our progeny.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Stop talking about queefs.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 amJason you have no progeny.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 amJuan we are still supposed to feel sorry for Isreal because of what happened. No one is feeling sorry for the Native Americans.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 amJuan C,
Not inferiority …
When someone questions my ability to back up my arguments, I can share my training and experience that lends to my credibility on some topics – such as corporate enterprises, etc. – especially, when someone challenges my motivations.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 amOur mortality gives our lives meaning. It is our charge to inherit the world from our forebearers, improve upon it, then train and bequeath the world to our progeny.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
So your for polluting the air with fossil fuels and denying it’s effects while at the same time dismissing alternative energy sources?
How is EXXON improving upon on our world by ignoring, and repressing, alternative energy sources?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 amGo figure, my slam on Jason never made it. Oh well, ya’ll are doing a great job. I’ll clean it up….
Jason has been bitter and angry for a while. Hmmmm, seems like it started some time in November…. :-D
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:52 am#8 I am assuming you are referring to the Myth that Mayor Daley stole the presidential election for Kennedy in 1960? If you live in Illinois you will know that at the same time Daley was accused of manipulating the Chicago area vote, that the republican party was accused of manipulating the downstate vote. Either way, lets say Illinois went 100% for Nixon. Illinois had 27 electoral votes back then. Subtract that 27 from Kennedy’s 303 and he still has 276 votes. Now add it to Nixon’s 219 and has 246 votes still losing the election. Contrast that with 2000 and 2004 where one disputed state in each election, Florida and Ohio respectively, is the deciding factor.
Also Carter lost in 1980. Are you implying that Carter stole the election for Reagan? Nope, what time may show is that Reagan got the Iranians to hold onto the hostages through the end of the election cycle so he could use that to his advantage.
I wonder how much Bush and dirty dick get paid by the oil industry for continually talking down global warming?
#28 Hacker Bob, Ok now the Jewish people have been in charge of Israel for nearly 60 years. The Palestinians are a displaced people who have been removed from their homes and property to become essentially ghetto dwellers within sight of their own land. So if that happened here in the US, lets say the American Indians were able to regather their strength and reclaim the land they say god gave them and they pushed all the rest of us out, Do you think we would fight back with any means possible? I can see both sides of this, the Jewish people wanted a homeland and claimed their biblical homeland, even though most of them were 10 generations or more removed from the Mideast. They have established what I would consider to be a very progressive society on the Mideast and they would like their security, and everyone should be secure in their existence. But on the other hand they have displaced an entire country and they did it partially through the use of terrorism, though they don’t do so today. It’s a whole hell of a lot more complicated than simply being a case of the Palestinians being terrorists. It is really the only weapon they have. Diplomacy is always preferred (except by our administration) but poverty and lack of education breeds anger and crime. The Palestinians are an impoverished people who are essentially in a position where they have no diplomatic leverage anymore. My personal opinion is that they should use terrorism as a bargaining chip, however they are not quite so unified and don’t seem to speak with one voice, so while one voice may stop the use, the next group will se terror. This is a problem that I think they can solve, but it may take a generation to do so. I don’t see an immediate solution. They should start with the education system and build it from the ground up while also working to build the economy and try to get the Palestinian and Israeli economies interrelated so they can build a common interest. Is this possible? Mid east history says no, but nothing else works. Simply saying stop your terror will work about as well as telling horny teens to not have sex.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 am“President Bush’s 2008 budget will call for the largest Pell Grant increase in three decades,†following proposals by the House and the Senate to raise it. The maximum Pell Grant “has remained at $4,050 a year since 2002, lagging behind tuition increases and inflation.â€
I’ll believe it when I see it — and then I will accept it. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 am#63, Juan,
It wasn’t your politics, it was your emotional outburst in calling Exley a Jew-boy. I take no offense to your arguments against Israel, and their policy / handling of Palestinians. I agree with Exley, your uncharacteristic use of a racial slur is troubling.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:54 am#35
Hey Jason, here is a news flash, the Palestinians are a Semitic people! So you must be an anti-Semite as well. Right?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 amOur mortality gives our lives meaning.
Our souls are not mortal. Remember Jesus?
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 amJaun,
I heard Jason say you are like a dirty Sanchez.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 am’ll believe it when I see it — and then I will accept it. :)
Comment by Zooey
NCLB No College Left Behind =)
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 amSo, never mind the blowin up of bakeries, and bus attacks, rocket attacks, kidnapings, etc.
Comment by hacker bob
I dont support terrorists attacks, even less against civilian population. But I have not seen my mother get raped or my little brother squashed by a Israel tank.
Good to see you called that terrorism but you must call colateral damage to your cluster bombs victims.
All the violence is Isreals fault? Sorry, don’t buy it.
No. Im not saying that. What Im saying is that how the agressor can be seen as a victim is beyond me.
Maybe thay can stop terrorist attacks on Isreal, then maybe Isreal will not use their military against them.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 amThere is a good movie. I dont remember the name about a guy who is going to blow himself in Tel-Aviv. It is a palestinian movie which has the two visions. The director of the movie said: I dont support violence in any way, but when my country is free I will condemn what we are doing to Israel.
Juan,
1. It was an unpleasant way to begin your posting. “Jew-boy” is considered a slur. Maybe you didn’t mean “jewish boy” to sound like an epithet but it came off that way.
2. It was irrelevant. People who believe that Israel has a right to defend itself against suicide bombers are not necessarily Jewish.
3. Your statement was based on nothing. You have no idea what my religious beliefs are.
Moreover — even though it is irrelevant — the fact is that you and I have already talked about the fact that we share a common Italian ancestry (so the chances of my being Jewish is remote).
We have had some friendly disagreements and debates, Juan, and we have gotten “snippy” with eachother. But I must say I was somewhat taken aback by the “jewish boy” language. It just seemed uncharacteristically harsh and intolerant of you.
February 2nd, 2007 at 10:59 amJew-boy
Jew Boy Christian Boy Catholic boy Rastafarian Boy.
Would you people kindly quit putting ideology before mankind?
People aren’t born Jewish or Christian or Catholic. No wonder mankind is too stupid to stop fighting wars over idiotology.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 am#65, For Truth,
I used forebearers and progeny in a communal sense – not specific. I have learned much, accomplished much, and, in so doing, trained many ….
#68, Apeman,
No, I would push for fuel cells, not ethanol, but myopic politicians are more worried about the middle east, than the entire planet.
#69, Zooey,
Why stop there, go on and explain what you mean by November …
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 amOur mortality gives our lives meaning. It is our charge to inherit the world from our forebearers, improve upon it, then train and bequeath the world to our progeny.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
What we do with our lives, gives our lives meaning. Our mortality makes us get a move on.
Stop talking shit, Jason. We, specifically your type, haven’t improved this world one bit, and should be ashamed of what we’re passing on to our children.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 amZooey, considering that the Bush Administration has been underfunding Stafford Loans, to the point in which they have lost ground over at least the last few years, well I will believe it when I see it too.
But I am sincerly hoping the Pell Grant increases go through, at substantial levels. The rate at which they have failed to keep up with inflation and the rising costs of higher education is surely a deterrent to middle and lower class students hoping to fund a college education. I know any increase in college funding would make a huge difference for our family. I know too many kids in our town who did not or could not attend college, mostly due to costs and funding. And a high school diploma just isn’t cutting it these days… unless you future includes working at McD’s.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:01 amWolfowitz gets some decent socks. ….. “A Gold Toe rep delivered 21 pairs of dress socks to his office yesterday (labeled ‘rush delivery’), Turkish sock manufacturers mailed a dozen pairs, and employees also presented him with a pair.â€
How embarrassing. First he shows up in his Holy Socks, and then he gets a butt load of Unholy Socks. Publicly. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 amMark,
I agree there is no easy solution. And I am aware of the history of the region and how Isreal was formed 60 years ago.
I, like you , see both sides. But some will ONLY promote the Palestinian POV, and their right to existanc, and will say nothign to promote Isreals right to exist. The bottom line is, both nations have a right to exist. Period. They both need to go into defensive postures rather than offensive. If it takes a wall to slow the violence, so be it. Walls come down, in time.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:04 amWhy stop there, go on and explain what you mean by November …
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
I think we all got it, Jason. Still smarting…?
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 amNCLB No College Left Behind =)
Comment by A&Pe Man
Damn right. :-D
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 am68, Apeman, No, I would push for fuel cells, not ethanol, but myopic politicians are more worried about the middle east, than the entire planet.
I agree. Seems there is a house bill 1150 right now for more wind generators.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 amJason,
First of all, the exact phraseology Juan C used was “jewish boy”, which is about as insulting as “christian boy” or “muslim boy”. Are you insulted by the term “christian boy”?
Second, the term “jew-boy”, which actually has been in use as a racial epithet, was used on this thread soley by you. I understand that when you have the untenable beliefs that float around in your head, that stretching the truth to fit your preconceived conceptions is second nature, but don’t expect us to just sit by and not call you on it.
Third, there was a lot more to Juan C’s post than the words “jewish boy”…but that’s all you chose to focus on, isn’t it? No….far easier to simply yammer on about how “anti-semitic” he is than to actually address his points.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 am#85, Zooey,
LOL – if you are talking about the premature electionation of a Democratic Congress, then no, I am not smarting.
So far, the Dem Senate has passed a minimum wage bill that is similar to what the Reps tried to pass for a few years – increase the minimum wage, but add tax relief to businesses, so that they do not have to lay-off workers or increase prices for their goods / serices.
But, most impressively, the Dems are now retreating from retreating, giving the Reps cover from both a success or a failure in Iraq. If we win, Dems look like cowards twice over, and if we lose, they share culpability in the defeat. Moreover, Biden, Clinton and Lieberman are split from their party on this issue, while Dodd and Kennedy won’t even sign on to the current non-binding resolution, because it doesn’t retreat enough.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 amActually Ethanol is not such a bad idea given that any plant, cellulose, can be turned into ethanol. We just don’t have a distribution systen in place, (ethanol plants near rural farming communities)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 amMoreover — even though it is irrelevant — the fact is that you and I have already talked about the fact that we share a common Italian ancestry (so the chances of my being Jewish is remote).
Comment by Exley
I said it becuz you defend the Israel position (why would I be surprised). I really dont know whats politically correct or not. I really dont care about those things. Have you seen italians discuss? They insult themselves all the time, make harsh body movements, yell all the time…and they dont get mad. When you were making comments at me, in the beginning like sparky or sport or whatever, I didnt care cuz I dont care what you call me just like italians or argentinians dont care too much about that.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 amWolfowitz gets some decent socks.
Wolofowitz can’t afford socks?
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 amWhile channel surfing this morning, my kid wanted to see Pauxt. Phil, I caught a segment on CNN from Barbara Starr about the 5 ambushed GI’s and CNN showed interviews with family and showed HONOR GAURDS and CASKETS. When was the last time the news covered anything like this or was allowed to? Might have something to do with the NYTime’s article proposing that those deaths were some sort of retaliation by the IRANIANS. Juan Cole isn’t so sure. I just don’t remember ever seeing caskets with flags in the morning.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 amhttp://www.juancole.com/2007/02/4-us-troops-announced-killed-troops.html
But, most impressively, the Dems are now retreating from retreating, giving the Reps cover from both a success or a failure in Iraq.
Naw, they are just giving Bush all the rope (money) he needs. War is never good for a sitting president or his party. Pretty much what caused the congressional loss, I think, in 2006. (and corruption)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 am#90, Ape,
I understand ethanol’s strategic importance, but it is actually worse for the amount of CO2 it produces for the energy extracted. (I used to work in the Advanced Engineering Staff at the General Motors Technical Center – converting a vehicle to run on methanol).
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 amhttp://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/01/31/MNGQCNS3NE1.DTL
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:20 amGOP fears war could help Dems for years
Marc Sandalow, Washington Bureau Chief
Wednesday, January 31, 2007
(01-31) 04:00 PST Washington — The bloodshed in Iraq already has cost the Republicans control of Congress, devastated the Bush presidency and made Democrats the favorites heading into the 2008 presidential campaign
#91, Juan,
Why can’t liberals simply apologize for slipping up? If you didn’t intend “Jewish boy” as a racial slur, then say so and apologize to all of us who were alarmed by your uncharacteristic use of a racial slur.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:20 amCALIFORNIA
GOP cites warming in bid for new dams
Greg Lucas, Chronicle Sacramento Bureau
(02-01) 04:00 PST Sacramento — Republican lawmakers, after refusing to back legislation last year embraced by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to curb greenhouse-gas emissions, now cite global warming as a reason to support the governor’s plan to spend nearly $4 billion in bond funds on new water projects, including two new reservoirs.
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/02/01/BAGB8NSRS81.DTL
FLIP FLOP FLIP FLOP!!!
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 amI understand ethanol’s strategic importance, but it is actually worse for the amount of CO2 it produces for the energy extracted.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
I agree with Jason on this one. (Gulp)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 amFuel cells are a far better option (efficient) than biofuels like ethanol or methanol. But there is room for every alternative.
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Good news. Now you Democrats won`t quite be as able to steal elections like you did in the 60-70s.
2000&2004 was just karma coming back to bite you for Kennedy in 1960 and then Carter in 1980.
So you’re admitting that 2000 and 2004 were stolen elections? That’s great. Admitting you have a problem is the first step. And what was your role in the election fraud?
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 amLOL – if you are talking about the premature electionation of a Democratic Congress, then no, I am not smarting.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Yes, you are.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 amIf you didn’t intend “Jewish boy†as a racial slur, Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Jewish are a race?
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 am#94, Ape,
… so, to build on your argument, this war will be bad for the Dems, who control congress, that failed to do anything about it, and won’t affect Bush, since he can’t run for another term as President …
This hurts the Dems chance for the presidency, because it makes them all look weak, and unable to LEAD, which is a critical presidential characteristic lacking in the Dem party.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:22 amActually Ethanol is not such a bad idea given that any plant, cellulose, can be turned into ethanol.
Comment by A&Pe Man — February 2, 2007 @ 11:14 am
Not true. It is very difficult to convert biomass to ethanol without incurring a net energy cost. This is a major technical obstacle that might take decades to resolve, if ever.
There is no single solution to the coming energy crisis. Wind, photovoltaics, nuclear, and biomass all have a role to play.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 am#62 JMH
Our mortality gives our lives meaning. It is our charge to inherit the world from our forebearers, improve upon it, then train and bequeath the world to our progeny.
Kinda looks like we’re turning it to shit right now. Our progeny are all going to be asthmatics, sharing an ever-shrinking land mass with an ever-growing population. Nice bequeathin’ there, Jason.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 amJuan, Believe me, I have seen more than my fair share of loud and boisterous among Italians…usually family members!
Look, I don’t want to make this a bigger deal than it is. Although we fundamentally disagree on many, many things, you seem to be a decent sort and I (usually) enjoy our debates. Maybe that is the reason your language seemed so jarring to me — It was uncharacteristic of our exchanges.
As Jay says to the Smart-Tech customer is The 40-Year Old Virgin, “Let’s move forward amicably!”
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:27 amI understand ethanol’s strategic importance, but it is actually worse for the amount of CO2 it produces for the energy extracted. (I used to work in the Advanced Engineering Staff at the General Motors Technical Center – converting a vehicle to run on methanol).
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethanol_fuel
Alot of pros and cons with ethanol it seems.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:28 am#84 Bob think about this too, from the palestinian perspectibve the establishment of the Jewish state could conciveably be viewed in the same context as the crusades. Except this time it is a Jewish state being established. How long did the various crusades go on? Did the christian state survive? Nope. I think ultimately Israel will survive, but until they can at least agree on what to do the situation will continue as it is today. Ultimately they need to negotiate with each side presenting their ultiamte perfect scenario and working through the non-negotiable stufff, the compromiseabel stuff and the stuff that just does nto matter. But I honestly don’t see that happening for a full generation until the infrastructure of palestinian society is repaired and hope is visible. Without hope, there is no point in negotiating. They thought they had it a few years ago, but the Israelie kept building settlements. So both sides have much to do with getting the proper enviornment established.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:28 am#102, Juan,
I am helping you, don’t be cute. I have stated repeated that the use of such bigoted terms is uncharacteristic of you, and troubling, and giving you a very face-saving out.
A wise man would take that out.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 amhis hurts the Dems chance for the presidency, because it makes them all look weak, and unable to LEAD, which is a critical presidential characteristic lacking in the Dem party.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
Read link #96 above.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:31 amHendler,
Your comment about the NWS (#23) is idiotic. It falls below even your usual low standards. The daily weather forecasters at NWS have no connection at all to the climate scientists at NOAA. There is no way to know yet whether any negligence was involved in forecasting today’s storms in Florida, but NWS has an excellent track record with storm warnings. Their Katrina prediction was right on the mark, by the way. As for saying that the NWS forecasters working today in Florida were negligent because YOU assert WITHOUT FACTUAL SUPPORT that they are liberals, and that they were not working at their posts as they should have been, is slanderous. Not to mention downright bizarre.
What a pathetic fool.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:32 am#38 JMH
In my education, the more of science was revealed to me, the more I recognized the work of God.
How does that work, Jason? How would you employ scientific method to prove the existence of “God”? To “recognize” implies the acknowledgement of a fact. How did you “recognize”? Maybe “perceive” would be a better word for it.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:33 amBy the way, Hendler, VerbalKint = RealScientist, just in case you don’t already know.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 amWhy can’t liberals simply apologize for slipping up?
Please stop with the limbaughesque liberal jargon.
People screw up and not becasue of a political ideology
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 amJewish are a race?
Comment by Juan C
I don’t think you have anything to apologize for, Juan. Jason’s got nothing, except a giant inferiority complex, so he attacks you.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 amAs Jay says to the Smart-Tech customer is The 40-Year Old Virgin, “Let’s move forward amicably!â€
Comment by Exley
Ex, for what is worth. It was an outburst. The fact is that it doesnt matter if you are jewish, christian or muslim…in any case you are wrong about the conflict. Heh.
Seriously, if that offended you, Im sorry. Name-calling is a non-issue for me. I will moderate myself.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 amJuan,
No problem…Like I said, I was more surprised than offended. Believe me, I have posted somethings here that I wanted to take back as soon as I hit the “Post – I Agree” button, especially when things get heated.
But you are still wrong about the Israel-Palestinian conflict. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 amJuan should apologize for the nice weather he lives in.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:43 amComment by Zooey
I dont understand whats his rush if those apologies are not meant to him. Sadly, he wont apologize for making demeaning comments against blacks, women, liberals, and workers.
Zoo, thanks for the support, but maybe there are some special sensibilities in US citizens that I wasnt aware of. Its good to learn anyway. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 amJuan should apologize for the nice weather he lives in.
Comment by ForTruth
And you should apologize for your tall, beautiful women…oh, yeah and for Chomsky :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:47 amJuan should apologize for the nice weather he lives in.
Comment by ForTruth
I agree.
Juan, it’s -4C here. Huh, it’s warming up. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:47 amAs for saying that the NWS forecasters working today in Florida were negligent because YOU assert WITHOUT FACTUAL SUPPORT that they are liberals, and that they were not working at their posts as they should have been, is slanderous. Not to mention downright bizarre.
It’s their Fux Noiwse brainwashing, if you don’t have any facts, and wish to blame something on anything. just toss the word liberal in there and iit magically makes it a fact, somehow.
And it is Bizarre, especially when so many educated people fall into that sparkle box induced mindset
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 amZoo, thanks for the support, but maybe there are some special sensibilities in US citizens that I wasnt aware of. Its good to learn anyway. :)
Comment by Juan C
Here’s a hint, Juan, don’t look for sense from Jason. When in doubt, send me an email, and I’ll tell you the truth. :)
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:49 amdont understand whats his rush if those apologies are not meant to him. Sadly, he wont apologize for making demeaning comments against blacks, women, liberals, and workers.
Fux Noiwse brainwashing at work!
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 amWait a minute Jason, I thought, according to the republicans, that the dems can nto do anything about this war because the president has these extraordinary war powers and he can do anything he sees fit to safeguard our nation. If that has been the republican position for 4 years how can that position change to the congress suddenly having some say in the matter? Can you guys ever get your story straight?
Dems have always said that the president does nto have the powers he says he has and now that they control congress they will work to make a better solution to the probelm than old failure face has done.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 amWhen in doubt, send me an email, and I’ll tell you the truth. :)
Comment by Zooey
Heh.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:53 amWait a minute Jason, I thought, according to the republicans, that the dems can nto do anything about this war because the president has these extraordinary war powers and he can do anything he sees fit to safeguard our nation -Mark
I wouldn’t expect an answer from on that one. When it comes to politics all logic goes right out the window. Political conservatism is organized hypocrisy.
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 am#89 – “increase the minimum wage, but add tax relief to businesses, so that they do not have to lay-off workers or increase prices for their goods / serices.” Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 2, 2007 @ 11:13 am
Yeah, like what has happened in the states that have higher minimum wage than the current federal minimum.
Oh, wait! That HASN’T happened! I wonder why not?
I guess you’re wrong in more ways than one, Mr. Hendler!
February 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 amSorry about the tall, beautiful women Jaun.
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February 2nd, 2007 at 12:41 pmJuan,
I know I am late to the party but wanted to give you my two cents: I realise English is not your first language so I wouldn’t make much fuss about your outburst -certain verbiage just doesn’t translate well from one language to another.
In English, the expression you used can be very easily misconstrued, specially in the context you used it. In the US the use of racial, religious, ethnic characteristics (or hinting to them) to describe a person can get you in hot water if your meaning is not readily apparent. Addressing a person in such a manner is a major no-no.
Just thought I’d let you know for your future reference…
February 2nd, 2007 at 12:55 pmBush administration: “I know that if I just hide my head in the sand long enough, all of this bad news will go away.”
February 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmThanks, Gregor.
February 2nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmThat picture gives me goose bumps. I mean look into the eyes of that man, our President, George Walker Bush.
Strength. Determination. Perserverance. Vision. Compassion. Courage.
Just like John F. Kennedy.
These are all traits our children and their children can look up to and remember. George Bush is the 21st century John F Kennedy.
Alot of people hated Kennedy during his Presidency. Just about as bad as they do Bush now.
Bush has accomplished more than Kennedy ever could have hoped to as a sitting President, and in the same amount of time.
Compare their Presidential records. Kennedy was more of a Conservative than you might think. Kennedy was more along the lines of Richard M. Nixon type Conservative and Kennedy admired him greatly.
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