Limbaugh: Stranded Polar Bears Are ‘Just Playing Around…Like Your Cat Goes To Its Litter Box’
Limbaugh: Stranded Polar Bears Are ‘Just Playing Around…Like Your Cat Goes To Its Litter Box’
This week, the UK Daily Mail published photos of polar bears stranded on ice floes in the Arctic.
Determined to deny the existence of global warming, Rush Limbaugh said on Friday that the bears were “just playing around…just like your cat goes to its litter box”:
This whole thing is totally misleading. They’re not even stranded on an ice floe that’s broken apart. They’re just out there just playing around. They’re just out there. You know, just like your cat goes to its litter box. When’s the last time your cat got stranded in its litter box? Just like your pit bull attacks and kills the neighbor’s baby horse, whatever, I mean these things happen. It’s called nature.
This isn’t “nature.” It’s human-induced global warming. In recent months, scientists have found that:
– Polar bears “are drowning because climate change is melting the Arctic ice shelf. Researchers were startled to find bears having to swim up to 60 miles across open sea to find food. They are being forced into the long voyages because the ice floes from which they feed are melting, becoming smaller and drifting farther apart.”
– “Pregnant polar bears in Alaska, which spend most of their lives on sea ice, are increasingly giving birth on land, according to researchers who say global warming is probably to blame.”
– Polar bears “may be turning to cannibalism because longer seasons without ice keep them from getting to their natural food.”
In December, the Bush administration “decided to propose listing the polar bear as threatened under the Endangered Species Act, putting the U.S. government on record as saying that global warming could drive one of the world’s most recognizable animals out of existence.”
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What we have done to the earth is heartbreaking.
Limbaugh is terminally stupid. Anyone who listens to him joins the ranks of the terminally stupid.
February 3rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmI say we put Rush on an iceberg and let him find out from experience.
The fat bastard could use the “exercize”… Or serve as lunch to one of the starving animals…
February 3rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmRush might find a cat’s litter box a place to ‘play’, but I can assure you, my cats do not… They’re smarter than that.
February 3rd, 2007 at 1:59 pm“Just like your pit bull attacks and kills the neighbor’s baby horse, whatever, I mean these things happen. It’s called nature.”
um… did limpballs just incriminate himself, and his pitbull?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:01 pmregardless - that ain’t “nature”… that’s criminal negligence, at least…
The ground this fool once stood on has eroded, but I’m sure he will blame Clinton or Soros…Sad that he has so many other ditto-heads/fools who believe his nonsense. Maybe they will understand when the water is waist deep in the card room of the country club.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:03 pmThank you, Mr. Limbaugh, for attempting to keep the United States squarely on the path of environmental exploitation and devastation. The rest of the world agrees that global warming is the product of human behavior, but then you’ve never been one to worry about the odds, have you?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pmRush isn’t even worth a post. He just says stuff to get a reaction.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:05 pmlaurie david was on the today show this morning…
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmshe was fantastic, as usual…
the today show - now there is no denying it…
Let’s send Rush on an ice floe in the arctic to play with those bears.
Who the hell does he think he is that he should spew such careless and irresponsible, fact-free conclusions.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:14 pmIf your cat’s litter box is floating in the middle of an ocean surrounded by 60+ miles of water, then yes, for once you’re right Rush Limbaugh!
It’s sickening how blinded by greed people have become, not noticing the world exploding around them because they’re too busy in their little bubble
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:18 pmThe late, great Molly Ivins wrote something about Rush one time that many of our conservative friends would do well to consider. She wrote that satire had been a tool for a long time by the powerless when talking to the powerful. But, she said, when the powerful use satire against the powerless, it was like kicking a cripple.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:20 pm“This week, the UK Daily Mail published photos of polar bears stranded on ice floes in the Arctic”
What a bunch of BS! Rush is right! What is to the right in that picture that they are not showing? Do you think the ice is melting so quickly that the bears woke up one morning to find themselves stranded? You liberals are a bunch of gullible kooks!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmRush is right!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
The Whack-a-troll offers nothiong but nonsense and opinions, As usual… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:27 pmAnd just when did Rush Limbaugh receive his degree in biology, zoology, or veterinary science? Why does he think he knows more than the experts do?
Oh, wait…silly me! I forgot — that’s exactly one of the qualities which defines a neoconservative. They know absolutely everything there is to know — they simply obtain whatever information they need by osmosis, without ever needing to study or even read anything on the subject — and it’s absolutely impossible for them to ever make a mistake.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:28 pmIt is interesting how many fields Rush Limbaugh can tackle and claim to cover sitting in front of his microphone..Today, Rush Limbaugh extends his knowledge and experience to Polar bears.,by linking the bears behavior to simply, ‘just cats going to litter box’.!! amazing.
May be he can also tell us something about Chicago Bears ..!!!!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:30 pm“Who the hell does he think he is that he should spew such careless and irresponsible, fact-free conclusions”
And you believe what you read in the article was FACT!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:30 pm“Limbaugh is terminally stupid. Anyone who listens to him joins the ranks of the terminally stupid”
How profound zooey! You get more irrelevant with each passing day!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmPolar bears “may be turning to cannibalism because longer seasons without ice keep them from getting to their natural food.â€
Now if we could only copy this model of success in the mideast against Muslims, then we would be on to something.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmYou liberals are a bunch of gullible kooks!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
Chrichton, is that you?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pm“The Whack-a-troll offers nothiong but nonsense and opinions, As usual”
Let’s see how correct you are in front of all your buddies? Point out the nonsense?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:33 pmNow if we could only copy this model of success in the mideast against Muslims, then we would be on to something.
Comment by bipolar molar — February 3, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
Why stop at Muslims? How about Christians?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmTo the right, you ask? Well, that would be dumb obscurants like you and the drug addict pissing on our beautiful Earth.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:35 pmRush is right!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
The Whack-a-troll offers nothiong but nonsense and opinions, As usual… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Comment by unbelievable — February 3, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
And you incessantly keep filling these TP threads up with your short staccato quips and quotes that to be perfectly honest, and I speak for everyone here, we are just plain sick of it unbelievable.
There you have it, I said it to you since no one else apparently has the nerve to.
Now what you going to do for an encore?
Fill up this thread with your nonsensical ” all about me ” tripe?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:35 pm“And just when did Rush Limbaugh receive his degree in biology, zoology, or veterinary science?”
He doesn’t need a degree in any of those disciplines. He’s using something that is a huge void in your worlds, common sense!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmLet’s see how correct you are in front of all your buddies? Point out the nonsense?
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Easy..
Let’s see how correct you are in front of all your buddies? Point out the nonsense?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:37 pmComment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
LET`S BRING THIS TO THE FOREFRONT WHERE IT BELONGS:
nothiong? And this butcher is teaching our kids?
Quick, someone get me back on the plane to Literacyville.
What a frump you are unbelievable.
“The Whack-a-troll offers nothiong but nonsense and opinions, As usualâ€
Comment by unbelievable — February 3, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:39 pmI’ve come to believe that Limbaugh and his followers actually get some sort of thrill, similar to the one they get from war perhaps, when they consider the idea of other species’ extinction. They delight in death and mock the sorrow of those with more empathy than them.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:42 pm“There you have it, I said it to you since no one else apparently has the nerve to.”
No, you are not the first. Many others have resorted to their own bile when I challenge their stupid comments which they rarely are able to back up. I’m not here to present things to you; I’m here to expose your foolishness and rhetoric!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:42 pmNow what you going to do for an encore?
Comment by restricted access — February 3, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
Laugh at your obvious in ability to offer anything of substance yourself, and therefore try to insult me to feel better about it. LOL
If that’s the best you have, then pathetic and desperate are compliments. Silly demented troll. Shoo.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 pm“Easy..
Let’s see how correct you are in front of all your buddies? Point out the nonsense?
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:33 pm
Comment by unbelievable”
You’re making things too easy for me. You couldn’t even respond with an intelligent answer!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmWhat a bunch of BS! Rush is right! What is to the right in that picture that they are not showing? Do you think the ice is melting so quickly that the bears woke up one morning to find themselves stranded? You liberals are a bunch of gullible kooks!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:23 pm
To anyone who would look the ice does appear to be melting. The shape of the ice can not be formed by breaking off. Those shapes can only the results of melting. But some people are too stupid to see what is right in front of their eyes. But of course Rush Limbaugh does not care about the truth. He only cares about himself. And by the time the true comes out it will be too late!!
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 pmWhat a frump you are unbelievable.
Comment by able one — February 3, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Over a typo? (The ‘o’ key is adjacent to the ‘i’ key, rachel/angie/patricia)
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:46 pmMichael YOU think Rush is right.
If he is right then prove it.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:48 pmI’m here to expose your foolishness and rhetoric!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Did the sanitarium just create ‘internet hour’ for their inmates?
Rachel is just upset that I told her that she might wanna find a better place to blog if she was so unhappy here. Crazy suggestion, I know… LOL
michael, well, I think he’s self-explanatory…
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 pmRush Limbaugh’s show is just talk, he is just playing around. You know like how crap comes out your a$$? — Spudge Boy
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I really can’t agree with that assessment. Never once has Limbaugh ever done what Stephen Colbert does on “The Colbert Report”. When you watch Stephen Colbert for any prolonged period of time, it becomes clear that his exaggerated portrayal of a neoconservative is intended as satire which highlights the flaws and hypocrisies of the neoconservative argument. While Limbaugh occasionally makes statements which seem to suggest that he doesn’t mean what he says (”I don’t consider myself an offensive guy. I am just a harmless lovable little fuzzball”), they’re never all that convincing — any more than someone who makes a spiteful remark is convincing when they follow it up by saying “I was only joking.” If Limbaugh really is joking when he says what he does, then the joke is on his listeners because a goodly number of them take him seriously. Colbert clearly is playing around because everyone knows that he’s not really a conservative — but instead of making his audience the butt of the joke, he lets them in on it.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:51 pmYou couldn’t even respond with an intelligent answer!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:44 pm
Actually, I did. But apparently it went right over your head. Not surprised.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:52 pmRush also says ‘liberals’ hate America simply because they voice their opinion. Now I am going to kick the feet right out from under that asinine un-patriotic argument.
WILLIAMSBURG, Va. - President Bush squarely addressed the issue most on the mind of House Democrats, saying Saturday that deep divisions over the Iraq war need not bring anyone’s patriotism into question.
“You know, I welcome debate in a time of war and I hope you know that,” Bush said in opening remarks at the guest speaker at a retreat that drew about 200 lawmakers to a Virginia resort.
He said disagreeing with him over the war — as many in the room do — does not mean “you don’t share the same sense of patriotism I do.
“You can get that thought out of your mind, if that’s what some believe,” the president said. “These are tough times, but there’s no doubt in my mind that you want to secure this homeland as much as I do”
Now as for the Polar bears of course the ice didn’t melt fast enough to strand them, what happens is that they swim for many miles without finding food. Not finding any seals, they grow to weak to swim back, and then become stranded.
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:53 pmEVERYONE BE QUIET NOW, THIS IS UNBELIEVABLES THREAD.
Comment by restricted access — February 3, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
Oh Santo, it’s you…
I thought you were crapping all over RawStory these days?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:56 pmYou couldn’t even respond with an intelligent answer!
Comment by michael
I have yet to see you provide any links or any intelligent posts. You simply parrot what Rush says and what he says is nothing but Rhetoric. Comparing a Polar Bear with a Cat litter box. That has to be one of the lamest things I have ever heard. Rush has many reaseachers on his staff and this is the best they can do? A cat litter Box?
February 3rd, 2007 at 2:57 pm“To anyone who would look the ice does appear to be melting. The shape of the ice can not be formed by breaking off. Those shapes can only the results of melting”
Again, do you think the bears are so stupid that they would live on ice that is about to melt into the ocean? They apparently have more common sense than you liberals. Let’s see the whole picture!
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:01 pmGo on over to Rush’s website Michael and copy and paste some more stuff we can debunk. Thanks. =)
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmyogurt,sandals,hippy,longhair,joints,peace,love,vw microbus.
Experiment over. Human population failed.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:03 pmLab rats won, and are now more sophisticated.
“As opposed to you who was irrevlevant the second you started typing your first post here”
Ah another example of liberal debating skills. Their #1 rule is: If you can’t respond intelligently, insult!
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:04 pmAgain, do you think the bears are so stupid that they would live on ice that is about to melt into the ocean? They apparently have more common sense than you liberals. Let’s see the whole picture!
Comment by michael
Please drop the liberal jargon, it’s childish.
But I guess if your boat capsized you wouldn’t hang on to it because you are smarter than a polar bear?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmA dinner of Rush Limbaugh could feed those polar bears for at least 6 months, but they probably would puke him up. You just can’t eat shit to survive.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmHe doesn’t need a degree in any of those disciplines. He’s using something that is a huge void in your worlds, common sense!
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Michael, Michael, Michael…just because you know something about your cat doesn’t mean you know anything about a polar bear — and neither “common sense” nor observing an animal in the zoo is an adequate substitute for studying animals in the wild. Any reputable biologist, zoologist, or veterinary surgeon knows this. Are you honestly trying to tell us that Rush knows more about polar bears than people with doctoral degree in zoology who’ve actually gone up to the Arctic and studied them? Oh, wait…silly me, I forgot. Colleges and universities are all bastions of liberalism so nothing that is taught there can possibly be true…right?
And by the way…the fact that you’re resorting to insult rather than backing up your statement with facts only shows that you’re fighting a losing battle. If I may paraphrase FDR, the first person to resort to insult is the one who has lost the ability to think and is out of ideas.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmSpudge just debunked you Michael, what you got to say now?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmSorry, I will be more clear that Rush Limbaugh is an a$$hole next time.
Comment by Spudge_Boy —
I will second that emotion from me to you: Potato in the Ass Boy
aka >Spudge_Boy
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmSince Spudge posted the entire photo and it slammed michael, he is probably beating his head against his desk now and will soon be carried back to his cell to relax…
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmSpudge, Bluestocking, Jet Mech, unbelievable:
Have any of you actually witnessed michael debating anything on any level?
I haven’t.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmA dinner of Rush Limbaugh could feed those polar bears for at least 6 months, but they probably would puke him up. You just can’t eat shit to survive.
Comment by GodfryDaniel
They would probably become comatose, and addicted, with all the oxycontin they ingested from whats in Rush’s stored fat.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:09 pm“Michael YOU think Rush is right.
If he is right then prove it”
I’m not saying he is right; I’m just challenging your foolishness. You people want to believe anyone who writes an article supporting global warming. This picture of the bears is all over the internet and it has you liberals screaming! Rush has his opinion and you have yours. If we could see the entire picture we could settle this. My money is on Rush!
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmJust like your pit bull attacks and kills the neighbor’s baby horse, whatever, I mean these things happen. It’s called nature.
Sorry Limp, but that’s called a criminal offense, and I’d have the pit bull euthanized, if I didn’t shoot it first. It’s just nature, after all.
Kind of like you, Limp, a prime example of nature gone awry with your tiny brain trapped inside such a huge, bumbling, gelatenous body.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmI just got done petting my cat. He seems okay. And if Rush says the polar bears are alot like my cat, then I believe him.
I am looking at my cat right now.
My cat is okay = polar bears are okay.
Get it? It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to figure out that these things happen in nature, just as death happens in a war.
It used to be called common sense. What do they call it these days with you Democrats?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:11 pmHe doesn’t need a degree in any of those disciplines. He’s using something that is a huge void in your worlds, common sense!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Since when is it that common sense is devoid of reality. To say Rush Limbaugh’s words are base on common sense is a huge stretched of the imagination. For one to understand what is happening to polar bears requires extensive time in the field to observe what is happening and not just one’s uneducated guess. And to my knowledge Rush has not spend the time in the field to know what he talking about.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm“We all see that you can’t point out the nonsense dumb fu*k.”
Refer to #49
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:13 pmHave any of you actually witnessed michael debating anything on any level?
I haven’t.
Comment by Zooey — February 3, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Me neither. He just does exactly what he is accusing us of doing - insulting others.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm“Did the sanitarium just create ‘internet hour’ for their inmates?”
Refer to #49. You are reinforcing it for me! Thanks!
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmhe is probably beating his head against his desk now
Comment by unbelievable — February 3, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
My money is on Rush!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
I stand corrected… michael is actually beating his head against his keyboard and this is what comes out…
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:15 pm“Actually, I did”
And I’m sure you can point it out to me? Wait! Can anyone point it out to me?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmI’m not saying he is right;
YOU did say Rush was right.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmScroll back and reread your post.
I am looking at my cat right now.
My cat is okay = polar bears are okay.
Get it?
Comment by grandma hastings — February 3, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
I hope you are being satirical…
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmSpudge, Bluestocking, Jet Mech, unbelievable:
Have any of you actually witnessed michael debating anything on any level?
I haven’t.
Comment by Zooey — February 3, 2007 @ 3:09 pm
Zoo - I usually just “troll” though and read the comments during the week and I have wondered about this for awhile. All he ever does is complain about how “all” liberals…”fill in the blank” and make baseless attacks that he cannot prove. For example how he wrote that there were only 30,000 people at the war protest. I have yet to see him provide a valid link. Has anyone else?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmWhat a bunch of BS! Rush is right! What is to the right in that picture that they are not showing? Do you think the ice is melting so quickly that the bears woke up one morning to find themselves stranded? You liberals are a bunch of gullible kooks!
Comment by michael
what you as a masturba,,, umm,, master debator should have wrote
I THINK this is a bunch of BS! I think maybe Rush is right! What is to the right in that picture that they are not showing? Do you think the ice is melting so quickly that the bears woke up one morning to find themselves stranded? I think You
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmliberalspeople here are a bunch of gullible kooks!Comment by michael
You are reinforcing it for me! Thanks!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
That you are insane? We know.
You’ve not acknowledged that the entire photo validates melting ice and stranded bears. How come?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmHave any of you actually witnessed michael debating anything on any level?I haven’t.
Comment by Zooey
I haven’t. Michael gets the IGGY award.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmAgain, do you think the bears are so stupid that they would live on ice that is about to melt into the ocean? They apparently have more common sense than you liberals. Let’s see the whole picture!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
To answer your question NO I DO NOT THINK POLAR BEARS ARE STUPID JUST POEPLE LIKE YOU WHO WILL NOT LOOK AND SEE WHAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN EYES. BUT WILL LISTEN TO EVERY WORD THAT POEPLE LIKE RUSH LIMBAUGH SAIDS. NOW THAT IS STUPID.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:26 pmMichael has posted several times since Spudge posted the link to the entire picture in #48. He still hasn’t responded. I wonder why???
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmI guess these were stupid neocon bears, who believed that leaving this hunk of ice signaled defeat to the terrorists.
This is what Iraq would look like before Bush decides maybe it is time to let go.
Honestly, not all animals are all that smart. They do what they can to survive; when they miss the boat and they die.
Bears do get isolated and starve frequently.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmLet’s see the whole picture!
Comment by michael — February 3, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
You’re seen it… Now recant! Or, better yet - go away!
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmI guess I will bookmark the picture for him, so I can show him later.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Please show him every time you see him post in any thread from now on :D
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmIf we haul Rush out there, do you think he would grow some empathy or a brain?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmRegardless of whether or not these are real, melting ice flows and these particular bear are stranded-
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:38 pmThe topic of global warming is one that George Bush has ignored until the rest of the world has pressed him into recognising it. Not only did he ignore it, he manipulated scientific data to keep the information suppressed and out of circulation. So, those of you a-holes who think this is so funny that you can debate small, mute points -you HAVE the small, mute points -on the top of your small, mute heads.
It’s really too bad the scientists are all over the map. First, in the 70’s it was global cooling. The cries abounded. “We are in for another Ice Age” - - - etc etc etc. Now it’s global warming. YES, we have global warming. Is it induced by humans. I don’t think so. There is far too much evidence that says otherwise. The medieval warming period comes to mind, and it was MUCH warmer then than now. The fact that the SUN is hotter also comes to mind, warmer so that even the co2 polar icecaps on Mars is seen to be getting smaller, and I am sure humans havent reached that far. Are we a contributary factor. Maybe, but we are not the major factor in this.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:40 pmRush has his opinion and you have yours. — Michael
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You and Rush are certainly entitled to your own opinions, Michael — but not your own facts. Rush’s statements are in no way phrased as opinion, and neither have yours been — they are phrased as factual statements. You can believe anything you like — but just because you believe it doesn’t automatically make it true. You can say the same thing about us as well, of course — but shouldn’t the facts as observed and determined by the scientists who are actually up there in the Arctic be the the determining factor?
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:45 pm#87- Excuse me, Mr. Expert, but I would prefer to listen to real scientists who are merely presenting scientific data, not injecting political bias or uneducated conjecture.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmI love ThinkProgress but when I do venture into the comments I cannot believe how much energy commenters are willing to waste giving validation to a single troll - albeit a particularly and stupefyingly braindead troll.
Do not feed the trolls and they will wither and die.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:53 pmThe fact that the SUN is hotter also comes to mind, warmer so that even the co2 polar icecaps on Mars is seen to be getting smaller, and I am sure humans havent reached that far. Are we a contributary factor. Maybe, but we are not the major factor in this. -DG
The earth does have a procession period and a natural carbon cycle. And I think we have exacerbated the carbon cycle. El nina and El ninos do have an effect as well as the oceans are but large heat sinks.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:55 pm90- The UK Daily Mail is not a science journal. That pic is not a pic of “stranded” polar bears. Read the first part of the article critically. They are saying that the picture is a metaphor, not that these particular bears are stranded in the photo.
February 3rd, 2007 at 3:58 pmFrom the article:
“They cling precariously to the top of what is left of the ice floe, their fragile grip the perfect symbol of the tragedy of global warming.
Captured on film by Canadian environmentalists, the pair of polar bears look stranded on chunks of broken ice. ”
This picture is a symbol to the uninformed. They look stranded, but they are not.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:06 pmHow can conservatives ignore all this? HOW?
It’s my generation that’s going to be screwed. Maybe we’ll just cut social services for the old, fat and wealthy, and put that money towards fixing the problem that could be fixed with minimal damage the economy now. Where are those ‘We can’t wait for the smoking gun’-ers now?
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:09 pmYou complete dumbasses.
Read critically, children. And I sdidn’t take it from the caption. Those were the first lines of the article.
That line “Stranded - the giants of the Artic whose world is melting away.” has more than one meaning. The writers KNOW this. You read into it what you wanted. They led you along. You followed.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:17 pm#94- Are you talking to me? I was referring to #87 and I was also speaking in metaphorical content. I DO know the difference. Here’s another one: George Bush is a pink monkey. Now, I know that he’s not REALLY pink. He’s white. Now, the monkey part is another thing.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:17 pmI love how you are counting the UK Daily Mail as some kind of authoritative source, yet they are a pop media outlet designed to sell themselves through sensationalism.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:19 pmAND fer christ’s sake, they can’t even spell ArCtic right.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:20 pm#93 Jake, not 94- These numbers keep changing.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:22 pmThe polar bears in the pic are not trapped on that meager iceberg, but it certainly is not big enough to sleep on. Ultimately the polar bears will adapt to the climate changes or perish. At this time nobody can be certain whether they adapt or die off.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:22 pmPeople, debate the real issues of global warming, not some pop media’s manipulative description of a single photo. OK?
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:23 pmThey deleted one of my comments.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmJake, the photo is not this issue. This is:
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:29 pmAll I know is that about three weeks ago, the overnight low in Eagle Nest, NM was a minus 32 degrees. That makes it colder that night than it was in Anchorage, Alaska. It broke the record originally established in 1951. Now, that’s some serious climate change. Maybe the polar bear can move down here.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmSpudge - OMG how did you get into my head.
You mean like Fox News?
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
They deleted one of my comments.
Comment by Jake — February 3, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
They should go further than that.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
I would add one comment. The increase in the IQ of the thread was palpable with the deletion of the one comment by Jake. Imagine how much higher if we could get rid of all of Jakes and Michaels comments. A girl can dream!!
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmSpudge,
It an emotional issue. For some species, it may already be too late. We have pushed too hard.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmWow! I know folks talk to pets, but when they listen, well, gosh,dang, nuff said…
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pm#59: You people want to believe anyone who writes an article supporting global warming.
Actually, I believe the 2500 members of the IPCC who study the science of climate change, and I believe the peer-reviewed scientific literature, in which there has not been a single published study in the past 15 years that challenges the notion that global warming is happening and that it is caused by humans.
My money is on Rush!
I’ll take that bet. How much?
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:49 pmPolar bears are very adaptable to zoo environments, and breed well in captivity, so it might end up the species will survive in zoos, but cease to exist in the wild.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:49 pmI would feed a polar bear over a neocon troll anyday. In fact neocon trolls would make great polar bear feed.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
The polar bears would get lots of fat from the neo-con head. :)
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:50 pmAnother possibility is that the polar bears might move southward into Canada and eventually into northern parts of the US around the Great Lakes area. Zooey > they could end up in Idaho too. Being an extremely large bear they would push out the black bears southward and probably mate with Grizley bears to make a hybrid species.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:56 pm#1 Anyone who listens to him joins the ranks of the terminally stupid.
well, he still has rabid endorsers who are willing to pay ad fees. This means the people that listen are enthusiastic in buying the products and services….so live goes on in America
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:01 pmZooey > they could end up in Idaho too. Being an extremely large bear they would push out the black bears southward and probably mate with Grizley bears to make a hybrid species.
Comment by Jay Randal
I live on the second floor.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:05 pmAs with all species, ourselves included, I guess it’s either adapt or die. Hey, right-winger-dingers… hear that?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:09 pmJay, polar bears already live in Canada. Churchill Manitoba does a booming tourist business showing off the bears. I doubt if they could adapt quickly enough to move away from the food they get from ocean waters. Check out this site for a map of the range of the bears. Idaho seems unlikely, considering the rare sitings located on the linked map.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:09 pmI live on the second floor.
Comment by Zooey
Oh my god. Forgive me, Jay, I have a fever.
It made sense on some level, I swear….Oy.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:11 pmPeople, debate the real issues of global warming, not some pop media’s manipulative description of a single photo. OK?
Comment by Jake
We have been since the beginning. Where were you?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 pmWell Zooey > being on a upper floor is good idea, because polar bears are very aggressive animals. They do eat people occasionally.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:21 pmYikes > I know the polar bears are in that region of Canada at present. I am just saying that as they are forced to adapt, then they could migrate south out of Alaska into Washington and Idaho states and come down from Manitoba into the Great Lakes region too. I am talking long term migration, not in the short term.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:24 pmFor some species, it may already be too late. We have pushed too hard.
Comment by Zooey
Extinctions caused by humans are generally considered to be a recent, modern phenomenon. However, humanity’s first significant contribution to the rate of global extinction may have occurred during the past 100,000 years, when North and South America and Australia lost 74 to 86% of the genera of “megafauna” - mammals greater than 44 kg. Since 1500 AD, 844 extinctions have been recorded.
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New plant and animal species are emerging, University of Minnesota ecology professor David Tilman says, but not nearly fast enough to make up for the toll caused by human activity.
“That’s sort of a 1 million to 4 million year process, and yet we are causing species to be lost at rates of 100 to 1000 times faster,” he says.
Tilman says the rate of extinction is approaching what scientists assume happened 65 million years ago. That’s when many believe a giant meteorite struck the earth, causing a dramatic climate change that led to mass extinction. More
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:24 pmWell Zooey > being on a upper floor is good idea, because polar bears are very aggressive animals. They do eat people occasionally.
Comment by Jay Randal
That must have been it…. :}
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pmI read the comments attached to the Daily Mail article. It seems Douglas G and friends have been busy there.
I suppose it is possible the 2500 scientists could be wrong. It is not a bet I would want to take.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:33 pm“I have yet to see you provide any links or any intelligent posts. You simply parrot what Rush says”
First of all I don’t even listen to Rush but he sure as hell makes you look like a bunch of dopes on this issue! What links do you want me to provide?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:38 pm“Go on over to Rush’s website Michael and copy and paste some more stuff we can debunk”
What have you debunked?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pm“The entire image with only melted ice in it”
There’s still more to the right that’s not visible. Nice try!
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 pm“Please drop the liberal jargon, it’s childish”
Now that you mention it you do act like a bunch of children, uninformed children!
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:42 pm“A dinner of Rush Limbaugh could feed those polar bears for at least 6 months, but they probably would puke him up. You just can’t eat shit to survive”
I couldn’t make this stuff up! Did you go to public schools?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:44 pmThis is a sequence of 4 comments by michael:
First of all I don’t even listen to Rush but he sure as hell makes you look like a bunch of dopes on this issue! What links do you want me to provide?
Comment by michael
What have you debunked?
Comment by michael
There’s still more to the right that’s not visible. Nice try!
Comment by michael (This one is really stupid)
Now that you mention it you do act like a bunch of children, uninformed children!
Comment by michael
And yet no substance, no content, no links, no nothing.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:45 pmAnd yet no substance, no content, no links, no nothing.
Comment by Juan C
No debate…
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:47 pm“Are you honestly trying to tell us that Rush knows more about polar bears than people with doctoral degree in zoology who’ve actually gone up to the Arctic and studied them?”
No and Rush never said that either.
“And by the way…the fact that you’re resorting to insult rather than backing up your statement with facts only shows that you’re fighting a losing battle”
I’m not here spewing facts. If I was I would back them up. I’m not as dumb as you liberals!
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:53 pm“Spudge just debunked you Michael, what you got to say now?”
No he didn’t. He’s hasn’t shown us the entire picture. As far as we know there could be a small town to the right that has been cropped out of the picture.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:56 pmMichael’s profile:
Male, twenties, below average intelligence, unemployed, lives in parent’s basement, remedial social skills, never had boyfriend or girlfriend.
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:57 pm“Since Spudge posted the entire photo and it slammed michael”
Hardly! Why is it that someone produces a picture and you liberals fall all over yourselves assuming the worse?
February 3rd, 2007 at 5:58 pm“Have any of you actually witnessed michael debating anything on any level?”
Oh zooey, I don’t think you want to go down that road. First of all I am not here making political statements to start a debate. I’m here to challenge the dumb assumptions and rhetoric that you liberals find so easy to trap yourselves with. By the way I have been challenging you to a 1 on 1 for days and every time I do, your tail goes between your legs and you slither away into irrelevance!
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:02 pmHow wide of a fu*king shot do you want. Just keep moving the goal posts jerkwad.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 5:52 pm
Think this will shut him up?
http://maps.grida.no/ library/ files/ satellite_observations_of_the_polar_ice_cap_1979_and_2003.jpg
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:04 pm“Kind of like you, Limp, a prime example of nature gone awry with your tiny brain trapped inside such a huge, bumbling, gelatenous body”
Do you think you could use a childish statement like this in a debate with Rush? He would chew you up and spit you out!
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:05 pmhttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=spudge
Urban Dictionary: spudgeJoe enjoyed squeezing the spudge out of his blackheads. … verb - to spudge. I spudge, we spudge, they spudge, you spudge, he/she/it spudges. …
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No more needs said really.
Nuff said.
Joanie Doe ®™
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:08 pmI’d always thought that challenging assumptions and rhetoric was debating. However, you have not really put up a challenge Michael.
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:10 pm“For one to understand what is happening to polar bears requires extensive time in the field to observe what is happening”
Sort of like one of your other endangered species the spotted owl? Listen I can’t believe how you twist what he says out of context. He’s simply saying that we have been duped in the past with forgeries! He is ridiculing you liberals for not asking simple questions like exactly where was this picture taken. How far from land is it? You look at the picture and immediately assume that it’s rapidly melting forcing the bears to swim 1,000 miles to land. I don’t know the answers to those questions, but at least I ask before I expose myself to looking foolish! It’s as if you WANT the worse!
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:13 pmNuff said.
Comment by Joanie Doe ®™ — February 3, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
If only that were true.
STFU already. No one is going to like you when you behave like this. How long is it going to take for you to learn that?
Besides, TP has banned you - repeatedly. Yet you keep forcing yourself upon us, trying to make us like you. Don’t you get why that is insane and won’t work? Have some dignity. Sheesh!
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:14 pmmichael,
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:14 pmWhy do you spout such nonsense when you know it’s wrong? You don’t believe what you’re saying for a minute. You couldn’t be that ignorant and still find your way to a keyboard, much less figure out how to use one. What’s in it for you? Why act like a retard if you aren’t one?
“And yet no substance, no content, no links, no nothing”
substance? In case you haven’t noticed all my comments are in response to comments by you liberals who are making all these ridiculous polar bear claims with no substance, no content, no links, nothing! But like a true liberal you quote me out of context! As little respect that I have for you liberals I can’t believe that they are that stupid to not see this!
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:20 pmunbelievable,
I suspect Micaheal will want an even wider shot, maybe from Pluto.
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:21 pmFirst - Unbe - great picture, but nothing shuts up a blowhard, especially not facts, because as we all know facts have such a liberal bias!!
Second - why is this Joanie obsessed with Spudge? Spudge do you have a stalker?
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:21 pm#144 - michael, Master Debater (TM)
AGAIN:
Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll.
Do you understand what I’m saying to you, michael?
If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 10:34 pm
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:26 pmYes, one that is obsessed why my ass and now Vince P is becoming obsessed with my ass, asking if it is hot.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
Wow, you must really nice ass ! I worry that they know this information without ever actually seeing your ass. Maybe this is just common troll knowledge. I guess they heard it from Rush.
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm“Big Darkness Come Soon”
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:33 pmHunter S. Thompson said shortly before his death:
“It is genuinely incredible. The U.S. Treasury is empty, we are losing that stupid, fraudulent chickencrap War in Iraq, and every country in the world except a handful of Corrupt Brits despises us. We are losers, and that is the one unforgivable sin in America…Beyond that, we have lost the respect of the world and lost two disastrous wars in three years. Afghanistan is lost, Iraq is a permanent war Zone, our national Economy is crashing all around us, the Pentagon’s “war strategy” has failed miserably, nobody has any money to spend, and our once-mighty U.S. America is paralyzed by Mutinies in Iraq and even Fort Bragg…The American nation is in the worst condition I can remember in my lifetime, and our prospects for the immediate future are even worse. I am surprised and embarrassed to be a part of the first American generation to leave the country in far worse shape than it was when we first came into it. Our highway system is crumbling, our police are dishonest, our children are poor, our vaunted Social Security, once the envy of the world, has been looted and neglected and destroyed by the same gang of ignorant greed-crazed bastards who brought us Vietnam, Afghanistan, the disastrous Gaza Strip and ignominious defeat all over the world. The Stock Market will never come back, our Armies will never again be No. 1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of our lives…Big Darkness Come Soon.”
This shouldn’t be necessary–for normal people it isn’t–but for those who are bound and determined, for purely political reasons, to deny things that they suspect are true, here’s an explanation:
Rush knows that the photo in the UK Daily Mail is not intended to be evidence of the fact that polar bears are getting stranded. For all anyone should care, that may not even be a photo of stranded polar bears. The Daily Mail might have taken a stock photo to represent what the TEXT of the article is saying. The article, in and of itself is not proof positive that polar bears are getting stranded, but–and here’s the important part, so pay attention–they cite sources. They quote people who are in the business of knowing. And all that Rush is doing, for the benefit of imbeciles that hang on his every word and can’t be bothered with actually going out and learning something for themselves, is to ridicule a photograph as if that disproves the information that is the source of the article. Rush is willfully ignorant and he banks on his loyal listeners not to look any farther than the pitiful shreds of information he provides them. And, they usually follow his lead, because they are proud to be “dittoheads”.
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:35 pmfeel free to delete my comment, but i’d be quite happy if rush limpbaugh dropped dead.
or “went to his litter box”
February 3rd, 2007 at 6:48 pm“Once and for all, I will not debate you because you are a slobbering, spewing, slavering, gutless, moronic f*ckwit, piss-soaked troll.
Do you understand what I’m saying to you, michael?
If any of the regular commenters on TP have a problem with my “talents,†they will kindly let me know.
Comment by Zooey — February 1, 2007 @ 10:34 pm”
And I’ve commented in the past that your response is incredibly childish but that doesn’t surprise me coming from you. It is also an admittance of weakness!
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmmichael
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmgo play in your litterbox
“Why do you spout such nonsense when you know it’s wrong?”
Hey chimp, when I criticize something said by one of you liberals I usually provide the text of what I am challenging before my response. I’ve said a lot of things on this thread, so would you mind telling me what you think is nonsense?
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:05 pmfrom now on I’m just gonna answer Michael, the non-debator, with IGGY
Comment by michael
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:08 pmIGGY
“I’d always thought that challenging assumptions and rhetoric was debating”
It is, and most of the time when I challenge a statement made by you liberals I’m either called names or get a response that is both stupid and off subject!
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:08 pm“How wide of a fu*king shot do you want. Just keep moving the goal posts jerkwad.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 5:52 pm”
What are you afraid of spudge? Being wrong?
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pm“Male, twenties, below average intelligence, unemployed, lives in parent’s basement, remedial social skills, never had boyfriend or girlfriend.
Comment by VerbalKint — February 3, 2007 @ 5:57 pm”
Here it is! Everyone can see that this is the typical childish response I get from most of you liberals when you can’t back up comments that I’m challenging you on. Any intelligent person must then assume you have nothing meaningful to say!
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:15 pmI wonder why these Rush wannabees think everyone is a liberal of their definition? I am sovereign and I agree with some of what the Democrats say and some of what the Republicans say as well as the independents.
The brainwashed Rush/Faux Noise/Coulter fanatics seem only to be able to conjure up an opinion if it is spoon fed to them by an entertainment outlet, that is, by someone trying to enrich themselves by telling chattering chimpanzees what to think.
Rather sad really, a mind is a terrible thing to waste and Rush has helped to waste 30 million of these minds.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:17 pm“Yawn!
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 3, 2007 @ 7:14 pm”
Interpretation: I can’t answer him!
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 pm“I wonder why these Rush wannabees”
First of all I NEVER listen to Rush but I have to admit he has made you lefties look pretty stupid on this one!
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmhttp://antiwar.com/eland/
Neo-Con Dsouza gets debunked
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmRush a drug addict is surely a liberal by his own definition.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:25 pmBTW What political ideology doed Rush follow?
Surely he has confused political ideology with lifestyles as well as religion.
Say Spudge I think I know where these Rush chimps get their obsession with peoples derriers, Rush’s ingrown butt hair, that has to be it.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:27 pmComment by michael
IGGY
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:29 pmmichael:
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:34 pmWhat evidence would you find sufficient to prove to your satisfaction that man-made global warming is real?
Is there an organization whos judgement you would accept?
Is there factual data you have yet to see?
Neo-Con Dsouza gets debunked
Comment by Jet Mech
Heh. That will leave a mark.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:42 pmFrom Rush’s own site:
‘Swimming 100 miles is not a big deal for a polar bear, especially a fat one,’ said Dr. Ian Stirling of the Canadian Wildlife Service. ‘They just kind of float along and kick. But as the ice gets farther out from shore because of warming, it’s a longer swim that costs more energy and makes them more vulnerable.’â€
Rush uses data from Dr Ian Stirling, who confirms this warming right on Rush’s own web page. Rush speaking from a studio, and not from Canada nor even Alaska wants people to think he knows more than the good Dr. Stirling. I guess Rush also knows more than heart surgeons and pharmacists, this coming from a guy who doctor shops for drugs.
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:52 pmHeh. That will leave a mark.
Comment by Zooey
More like a concussion =)
February 3rd, 2007 at 7:54 pmOff of another thread:
It seems to be a win-win situation for you to go somewhere else.
Comment by unbelievable — February 3, 2007 @ 3:00 pm
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February 3rd, 2007 at 8:34 pmAw, how cute! That polar bear just did a limbaugh is his litter box!
February 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 pmhe should be lost of an f’n ice cap… maybe the hungry polar bears can EAT him.
February 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmmy cats have never drowned ‘playing’ in their litterbox.
really, what sort of idiot even listens to this guy.
February 3rd, 2007 at 9:04 pmseriously? who?
Wow, that is just, wow. Beyond stupid. Even for Limbaugh. Polar bears are just playing around when they’re dying of exhaustion, or clinging to ice flows and dying of starvation. Hoo boy, there’s a party ova here!
February 3rd, 2007 at 9:09 pmMental masturbation can be seriously masochistic and addictive, even for polar bear. They’re smarter than the average bear, ya know.
February 3rd, 2007 at 9:17 pm“Are you honestly trying to tell us that Rush knows more about polar bears than people with doctoral degree in zoology who’ve actually gone up to the Arctic and studied them?â€
No and Rush never said that either. — Michael
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Rush didn’t say that, Michael — but you most certainly did. Let me quote verbatim a fragment from one of my previous posts, as well as your response to it:
My post: “And just when did Rush Limbaugh receive his degree in biology, zoology, or veterinary science?”
Your response: “He doesn’t need a degree in any of those disciplines. He’s using something that is a huge void in your worlds, common sense!”
While you may not have come out and said it in so many words, the implication of your statement is clear — by saying that Rush Limbaugh doesn’t need a degree in any of these fields in order to refute what the scientists in the field are saying, you are indeed suggesting that mere “common sense” makes Rush more knowledgeable about polar bears than the scientists with PhDs who spend all their time studying them. Deny it all you like, but that’s how it comes across. Perhaps that’s not quite what you meant — but in that case, it might be a good idea to try choosing your words with more care.
“I’m not here spewing facts. If I was I would back them up.”
The fact that you haven’t provided any facts to back up your argument only serves to prove that your argument has no foundation. You’re entitled to your opinion, of course — but facts don’t go away simply because someone doesn’t like them or doesn’t want to face them. Most animals, even carnivores, do not typically prey upon and eat adult members of their own species unless they are suffering from starvation or some other form of severe stress — this is a fact. Yes, male polar bears are not unknown to kill and even eat cubs — but the link to the article on cannibalism clearly mentions that two adult females were found to have been killed and cannibalized, something which has not previously been observed in over 20 years of research. So since you clearly know so much, you tell us — why are polar bears starting to eat one another?
February 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 pmwhy are polar bears starting to eat one another?
Comment by Bluestocking — February 3, 2007 @ 9:37 pm
1. They are republicans.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:06 pm2. The 2008 elections are getting closer every day.
I appreciate the effort here to argue with the ditto-head, but of course it is well beyond hopeless for a very simple reason: there is by definition no evidence whatsoever that will convince Rush Limbaugh that global warming is happening and we’ve caused it.
That’s the key. Just ask “what proof would convince you?” If you get any answer at all it will be something squirrely like “when the consensus among scientists is absolute,” which means that one single hack with a white coat and a clipboard can balance the entire worldwide scientific community. Demanding absolute “proof” from scientists is the same thing as demanding that they produce unicorns. It doesn’t exist and never will. All we have are theories, but among scientists the word “theory” doesn’t mean “guess” or “hunch” as it does in common speech. A theory that has gained widespread adherence and been tested over and over again by scientists all over the world and passed again and again throught the peer review process is the closest thing to a sure bet imaginable.
But again, it’s pointless to argue any of this when you are arguing with someone who is coming from a position of pure ideology. There is absolutely no objective criteria, no respected authority, no common ground upon which a rational argument could be based.
Rush’s job is erode all such criteria, authorities and common ground, whether its science, history, journalism, academia, tradition, whatever.
He divides the country and keeps up a non-stop guerilla war against any ideas, any groups, any individuals which might be able to organize and oppose this titanically immoral and tyrannical kleptocracy.
Only an author like Kafka or Gogol could do justice to the petty egomaniacle delight he and his ilk take in ensuring destruction and misery for the planet. In the end I’m convinced that this is what pure evil looks like—-evil as a kind of categorical imperative.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:16 pmIt is time to kill off the Limbaugh’s of earth.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:21 pmThe conservatives posting here, appear to suffer from premature postulations.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:31 pmSave the polar bears. Save the earth.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:39 pmBears just started cannabalizing….Wait till the global warming sets in nice and tight on American farmlands and leaves them in ruins. Talk about cannabalizing…..
And for all of you who haven’t already…go to exxonsecrets.org. A wealth of global warming deniers on a map!
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:40 pmcivil behavior > when the polar bears start eating all the Eskimos in Alaska, then GOPers might begin to notice, but maybe not till the bears get to Anchorage and eat Republicans.
February 3rd, 2007 at 10:46 pm