Comments on: McCain: Consequences Of Missed Benchmarks Are ‘Obvious,’ But ‘I Can’t Tell You’ What They Are http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:57:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: pt bridgeport http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1648172 pt bridgeport Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:04:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1648172 <blockquote><em> Mcain is hiring the top guns that Bush hired used to smear Mcain. </em></blockquote> The only smart thing McCain has done in months. This was a savvy pre-emptive strike. Maybe he plans to pay 'em to sit quietly in a backroom doing nothing and saying less. You think he wants these guys to go on Romney's payroll?


Mcain is hiring the top guns that Bush hired used to smear Mcain.

The only smart thing McCain has done in months. This was a savvy pre-emptive strike. Maybe he plans to pay ‘em to sit quietly in a backroom doing nothing and saying less. You think he wants these guys to go on Romney’s payroll?

]]> By: Broadway Carl http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1646653 Broadway Carl Mon, 05 Feb 2007 15:17:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1646653 <blockquote>but mccain said he doesnt know what the “options” are to the escalation, not that he doesnt know what the consequences are if iraqis fail" Posted by jak fulosafy</blockquote> I thought so too, but listen to it again jak. McCain misinterprets the question. The question was regarding toothless benchmarks, the consequences of missing the benchmarks aren't laid out. His use of the phrase "The consequenses are obvious" refers to the ensuing chaos when the escalation doesn't work, not the unspelled out consequences in his resolution. Was that on purpose? I don't know. But his answer that there are no good options DEFINITELY refers to options after the escalation fails. By the way, does anyone know what these benchmarks are? I keep hearing that word, but I don't think I've ever heard what they actually are.

but mccain said he doesnt know what the “options” are to the escalation, not that he doesnt know what the consequences are if iraqis fail” Posted by jak fulosafy

I thought so too, but listen to it again jak. McCain misinterprets the question. The question was regarding toothless benchmarks, the consequences of missing the benchmarks aren’t laid out.

His use of the phrase “The consequenses are obvious” refers to the ensuing chaos when the escalation doesn’t work, not the unspelled out consequences in his resolution. Was that on purpose? I don’t know. But his answer that there are no good options DEFINITELY refers to options after the escalation fails.

By the way, does anyone know what these benchmarks are? I keep hearing that word, but I don’t think I’ve ever heard what they actually are.

]]> By: Xenon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1643607 Xenon Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:03:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1643607 McCain: "Consequences Of Missed Benchmarks Are ‘Obvious,’ But ‘I Can’t Tell You’ What They Are" ...that's okay, neither can your bosses. McCain: “Consequences Of Missed Benchmarks Are ‘Obvious,’ But ‘I Can’t Tell You’ What They Are”

…that’s okay, neither can your bosses.

]]> By: troll alert http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1643103 troll alert Mon, 05 Feb 2007 07:32:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1643103 Comment by unbelievable — February 4, 2007 @ 8:06 pm It is doubtful that unbelievable wrote # 20. Comment by unbelievable — February 4, 2007 @ 8:06 pm

It is doubtful that unbelievable wrote # 20.

]]> By: jack http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1642896 jack Mon, 05 Feb 2007 06:06:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1642896 <strong>The New World Oligarchy</strong> is calling all the shots. These guys are all puppets. What's gone wrong is among the Straussions, Strangelove, neocon operatives now planning to launch on Iran while assuming Russia and China will do nothing. There's a schism over this, and a faction of the NWO is leaning on certain politicians and working behind the scenes in a mad scramble to rein in the madmen before they start WWIII. They're doing this by allowing copious limited hangouts on the 911 coup, essentially calling it an intelligence "failure," not the stunning intelligence "success" that it was; e.g. NORAD tapes, first responder tapes, books by Woodward, Lance, Drumheller, Ritter, et al. — all in an effort to change course without blowing the 911 coverup, exploding the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War and precipitating a global financial meltdown, all of which is inevitable — best to get it over with and wipe the slate — <strong>Support 911Truth - End War of Terror</strong> The New World Oligarchy is calling all the shots. These guys are all puppets. What’s gone wrong is among the Straussions, Strangelove, neocon operatives now planning to launch on Iran while assuming Russia and China will do nothing. There’s a schism over this, and a faction of the NWO is leaning on certain politicians and working behind the scenes in a mad scramble to rein in the madmen before they start WWIII.

They’re doing this by allowing copious limited hangouts on the 911 coup, essentially calling it an intelligence “failure,” not the stunning intelligence “success” that it was; e.g. NORAD tapes, first responder tapes, books by Woodward, Lance, Drumheller, Ritter, et al. — all in an effort to change course without blowing the 911 coverup, exploding the biggest constitutional crisis since the Civil War and precipitating a global financial meltdown, all of which is inevitable — best to get it over with and wipe the slate — Support 911Truth – End War of Terror

]]> By: Liberal in New Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1641556 Liberal in New Mexico Mon, 05 Feb 2007 01:59:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1641556 #19 -Wait a minute... Is he a hybrid gerbil, or does he have a gerbil in his cheeks, or does he have a gerbil up his ass? Maybe the gerbil is crawling out of his ass and is going after his nuts. Or, IS he just plain nuts? This is getting too damned confusing! Oy! #19 -Wait a minute… Is he a hybrid gerbil, or does he have a gerbil in his cheeks, or does he have a gerbil up his ass? Maybe the gerbil is crawling out of his ass and is going after his nuts. Or, IS he just plain nuts? This is getting too damned confusing! Oy!

]]> By: Jay Randal http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1641172 Jay Randal Mon, 05 Feb 2007 01:04:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1641172 McCain is not packing nuts in his cheek > the gerbil lives in there > lol. McCain is not packing nuts in his cheek > the gerbil lives in there > lol.

]]> By: Liberal in New Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1640673 Liberal in New Mexico Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:26:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1640673 What is this -an animal hybrid of half man-half gerbil? He really looks like he's been packing away those nuts. What is this -an animal hybrid of half man-half gerbil? He really looks like he’s been packing away those nuts.

]]> By: VerbalKunt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1640532 VerbalKunt Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:07:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1640532 Barfly, When can I tongue your browneye? Ooops! wrong blog. TP PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS GO THRU too la Barfly,

When can I tongue your browneye?

Ooops! wrong blog.

TP PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS GO THRU

too la

]]> By: Barfly http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1640351 Barfly Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:21:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1640351 <em>Comment by Barfly </em> [SQUEEK! SQUEEK!] Rachael! Come here girl! You’ve got poop on your foot, and you’re leaving tracks all over the place! Sit! Rachael! Sit! I’ve got your favorite chew toy . . . [SQUEEK! SQUEEK!] Comment by Barfly

[SQUEEK! SQUEEK!]

Rachael! Come here girl! You’ve got poop on your foot, and you’re leaving tracks all over the place! Sit! Rachael! Sit! I’ve got your favorite chew toy . . .

[SQUEEK! SQUEEK!]

]]> By: Moonijuana http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1640249 Moonijuana Sun, 04 Feb 2007 23:01:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1640249 Barfly, Are you really Mark Foley? Barfly, Are you really Mark Foley?

]]> By: Marie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638991 Marie Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:05:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638991 Hey, McCain campaign workers!! Take your guy aside and set him straight. He can't win. He's losing any support he had. He appears sick. He isn't thinking straight. He contradicts himself. Please take him home and let him rest. Hey, McCain campaign workers!!
Take your guy aside and set him straight. He can’t win. He’s losing any support he had. He appears sick. He isn’t thinking straight. He contradicts himself. Please take him home and let him rest.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638577 Gregor Samsa Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:41:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638577 What really drives me up the wall is that all this wrangling over the so-called benchmarks, is really nothing more that political maneuvering and posturing by this administration to try to make Iraqis responsible for the mess Iraq is right now -when Iraqis were little more than witnesses to the blunders the White House committed time and again, from the dissolution of the Baath party, to the disintegration of both the police and the Army, to the banning of former Baathist from any government positions, to the failure in rebuild Iraq's infrastructure, the corruption surrounding construction projects, etc. Instead of taking any responsibility for their mistakes, they are passing the buck to the Iraqis, and giving them "benchmarks", when the Bush administration has refused over and over again to give themselves any time line at all, and its minions ridiculed the idea that some semblance of a plan was even needed. On the up side, it might signal this administration is looking for a way to extricate themselves from the disaster the occupation of Iraq has turned out to be -even as they refuse to acknowledge their role in it. What really drives me up the wall is that all this wrangling over the so-called benchmarks, is really nothing more that political maneuvering and posturing by this administration to try to make Iraqis responsible for the mess Iraq is right now -when Iraqis were little more than witnesses to the blunders the White House committed time and again, from the dissolution of the Baath party, to the disintegration of both the police and the Army, to the banning of former Baathist from any government positions, to the failure in rebuild Iraq’s infrastructure, the corruption surrounding construction projects, etc.

Instead of taking any responsibility for their mistakes, they are passing the buck to the Iraqis, and giving them “benchmarks”, when the Bush administration has refused over and over again to give themselves any time line at all, and its minions ridiculed the idea that some semblance of a plan was even needed.

On the up side, it might signal this administration is looking for a way to extricate themselves from the disaster the occupation of Iraq has turned out to be -even as they refuse to acknowledge their role in it.

]]> By: arnold http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638558 arnold Sun, 04 Feb 2007 18:35:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638558 Checking in, read, nothing new, gone again….Blessings Comment by Sharon Cox — February 4, 2007 @ 12:02 pm Hasta la vista,babe,don't let the creaking screen door hit you on your way out. Checking in, read, nothing new, gone again….Blessings
Comment by Sharon Cox — February 4, 2007 @ 12:02 pm

Hasta la vista,babe,don’t let the creaking screen door hit you on your way out.

]]> By: Deniz Yeter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638236 Deniz Yeter Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:05:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638236 #4, ahahahha so true... And McCain could never afford to get Rove who pretty much killed McCains campaign in 2000 with a "whisper" campaign against McCain that he was "sodomized in the butt when he was a POW in Vietnam" People thought this meant McCain is nuts so they didn't vote for him Poor guy! It seems Bush has screwed up his election 8 years down the road, because to look like a "Centrist" McCain is allying with Bush, but it's just backfiring because McCain is too stupid to look at a poll and go "So everyone in America see anyone that Bush is friends with as evil... so that means I'll try to do what Bush does but twice as good!" #4, ahahahha so true…

And McCain could never afford to get Rove who pretty much killed McCains campaign in 2000 with a “whisper” campaign against McCain that he was “sodomized in the butt when he was a POW in Vietnam”

People thought this meant McCain is nuts so they didn’t vote for him

Poor guy! It seems Bush has screwed up his election 8 years down the road, because to look like a “Centrist” McCain is allying with Bush, but it’s just backfiring because McCain is too stupid to look at a poll and go “So everyone in America see anyone that Bush is friends with as evil… so that means I’ll try to do what Bush does but twice as good!”

]]> By: Liberal in New Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638227 Liberal in New Mexico Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:04:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638227 None of these frigging clowns have an answer for anything. Is it any wonder the people have stopped listening to thier nonsense? Pink Floyd's <em>THE WALL </em>makes an awful lot of sense to me, these days. Maybe we just need to "tear it down", and start all over again. None of these frigging clowns have an answer for anything. Is it any wonder the people have stopped listening to thier nonsense? Pink Floyd’s THE WALL makes an awful lot of sense to me, these days. Maybe we just need to “tear it down”, and start all over again.

]]> By: Sharon Cox http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638189 Sharon Cox Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:02:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638189 Checking in, read, nothing new, gone again....Blessings Checking in, read, nothing new, gone again….Blessings

]]> By: Deniz Yeter http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638188 Deniz Yeter Sun, 04 Feb 2007 17:02:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638188 Was there ever a time in politics where someone ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING WHOLE HEARTEDLY INSTEAD OF SKIPPING AROUND THE ANSWER!!!!!! Why are people even accepting this? George Stepanopawhatever should of water boarded McCain until he fessed up Was there ever a time in politics where someone ACTUALLY SAID SOMETHING WHOLE HEARTEDLY INSTEAD OF SKIPPING AROUND THE ANSWER!!!!!!

Why are people even accepting this?

George Stepanopawhatever should of water boarded McCain until he fessed up

]]> By: Joe knee dough http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638157 Joe knee dough Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:59:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638157 Mcain is hiring the top guns that Bush hired used to smear Mcain. Mcain is hiring the top guns that Bush hired used to smear Mcain.

]]> By: unbelievable http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/comment-page-1/#comment-1638049 unbelievable Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:47:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/04/mccain-benchmarks/#comment-1638049 <em>He can’t tell us what the benghmarks are, because he slept throuhg that meeting as well. Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am</em> LOL... Oh, he'll make a fine President (sarcasm) He can’t tell us what the benghmarks are, because he slept throuhg that meeting as well.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 4, 2007 @ 11:40 am

LOL… Oh, he’ll make a fine President (sarcasm)

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