During Senate Debate, Lieberman Accuses War Vet Warner Of Not Supporting The Troops
During Senate Debate, Lieberman Accuses War Vet Warner Of Not Supporting The Troops
Yesterday on the Senate floor, Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and John Warner (R-VA) had a testy exchange over their Iraq resolutions, during which Lieberman claimed that the difference between his pro-escalation resolution and Warner’s anti-escalation resolution is that “ours is a statement of support to our troops.”
Warner responded, “I forcefully argue that ours is in support of the troops, and there is no suggestion that one is less patriotic than the other.” But Lieberman insisted, “One is not less patriotic than the other, but actions have consequences, as I said during my remarks. For the Senate to take this unprecedented action on a nonbinding resolution to disavow, disapprove a mission that our troops are being asked to carry out right now cannot help their morale.”
Watch it:
Warner served in the Navy and as a Marine officer during World War II and the Korean War, respectively, and was later Secretary of the Navy. Lieberman has no military experience.
Transcript:
WARNER: I thank the presiding officer. My question to my good friend and colleague is as follows: this debate is well underway. The plans are being discussed. I just inquired at the desk, and the McCain resolution is not filed. Yet, I understood you to say it had been filed. Could you help clarify for the Senate the position on that.
LIEBERMAN: I’d be happy to very briefly. The resolution Senator McCain and I and others have has been prepared, and I gather it has been the subject of negotiation between Senator Reid and Senator McConnell.
WARNER: But it’s not part of the record, so –
LIEBERMAN: No, no, that’s right. The debate going on now is obviously on the —
WARNER: I’ve always been very carefully, I feel very strongly that the Senate should work its will on facts that are out in the open, and I have filed my resolutions one after another at the desk, so all senators can have the benefit. Is that a possibility that we could have the benefit of this resolution?
LIEBERMAN: My dear friend, it’s more than a possibility. It’s a promise.
WARNER: At what time might the promise be executed?
LIEBERMAN: Well, there are copies of it around now, and we’ll get you one. They were publicly distributed on Thursday of last week.
WARNER: I’d be glad to give you my copy, but I’d feel presumptuous for me to address it unless it is properly before the senate.
LIEBERMAN: I thank my friend. The difference, of course, is that ours is as nonbinding as yours, but ours is a statement of support to our troops and benchmarks to the Iraqis.
WARNER: Madam president, I’m clearly — what I’ve read is correct. But I assure you that I forcefully argue that ours is in support of the troops, and there is no suggestion that one is less patriotic than the other, if i may say to my dear friend.
LIEBERMAN: One is not less patriotic than the other, but actions have consequences, as I said during my remarks. For the Senate to take this unprecedented action on a nonbinding resolution to disavow, disapprove a mission that our troops are being asked to carry out right now cannot help their morale.
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I’m so glad Lieberman declared he was caucusing with the Democrats.
Otherwise, I’d be worried that he was challenging John Warner to show which one of them was more Republican than the other.
It’s Lieberman, hands down.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:38 amOH NO! A NONBINDING RESOLUTION!
C’mon, you’re better fearmongerers than this - can’t you call him a terrorist or something?
Is this your bone to pick anyway? Americans will remember this as when the republicans stonewalled a nonbinding resolution.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:41 amLieberman = AIPAC - under indictment for espionage related Classified information about Iran.
Mr. Lieberman, where is your outrage over the transfer of State Secrets to a foreign government?
AIPAC got your tongue?
February 6th, 2007 at 10:41 amLiverLips Lieberman sounded like pure slime yesterday during the Senate hearings…..yukkkk! Such drivel and inane nonsense which pours forth from this sad individual’s mouth!
Russ Feingold said it all on Countdown (posted now on crooksandliars.com) - anyone who voted for this war needs to be held ‘ACCOUNTABLE’ and punished by the american people for their overt derelection of duty. Certainly their massive error in judgment cannot be celebrated and commended by providing support for their candidacy now. They need to be admonished and held accountable for their actions in supporting/enabling/allowing this war to even take place.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:43 amLiverLips Lieberman = The Original Shapeshifter
February 6th, 2007 at 10:43 amWhat a waste of human skin.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:44 amLieberman just can’t help himself, can he?
Heh.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:44 amMorale? Troops are just plastered to their tv-sets watching C-SPAN so that they can find out everything there is to know about the…
non-binding resolution! gasp!
You’d think troops had better things to do, like trying not to get shot or blown up ‘n stuff.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:46 amIf Lieberman is in any way a progressive, liberal, or moderate Democrat he must be in deep covert status attempting to give some Republicans a taste of the “you don’t support the troops and are un-American” putrid they have been forcing onto Democrats.
Or, the more simple explanation, Lieberman is just another chickenhawk.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:47 amLIEberman is a snake of the lowest order.
I can’t believe the voters of Connecticut were stupid enough to vote him back into office…and as an Independent, no less.
Lamont ought to run again next time. His campaign platform could be:
February 6th, 2007 at 10:49 amI agree with the conclusion of this article. All you people with no military expereience should be quiet. and by extension, no civilian should be in the chain of command.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:49 amXbot sez:
Unfortunately, most Americans won’t remember this at all.
Most Americans are too busy watching American Idol to care about the state of this country.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:51 amIt’s a fantastic conundrum that the GOP (including Lieberman) have put themselves into. When this thing finally gets to a vote, they’ll either have to vote against the resolution and show that they are out of touch with the American public. Or vote for the resolution and “undermine the president” or “destroy troop morale” or “cut and run” or any other ridiculous three word phrase that they’ve lobbed at the left.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:52 amI wouldn’t care to be within spitting distance of LiverLips Lieberman when he orates without plenty of antibacterial hand wash. Did anyone notice the slobber he spews when he speaks?? ugh.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:52 amAhhhh, Joe ‘who are you now’ LIEberman. (D?-I?-R)
February 6th, 2007 at 10:52 amThe Elmer Fudd of politics…Joe, you cwazy wascal!
Never served, but always takes a safe political approach to issues.
Now that the Neocrooks financed his latest campaign, he owes mucho political capital to them.
And what’s up with media still labeling him ‘D’?
Vince P sez:
Does that include your beloved Chimpy?
February 6th, 2007 at 10:53 amI guess Vince P doesn’t do either nuance or logic.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:54 amThis “War Without End” was created and sold by the likes of Lieberman, Ledeen, Wurmser, Kristol, Feith, Zakheim, Rhode, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Perle, Wolfowitz and many others.
This is a “War Without End” make no mistake.
All of this debate about the debate going on in our senate is nothing but a smoke screen designed to run out the clock.
Everything you see is the direct result of the actions of David Rockefeller and all in his employ.
Follow the record high profits…
February 6th, 2007 at 10:56 amHaven’t these reichwingnuts realized that “supporting the troops” means getting them out of harm’s way yet???? How ignorant and unevolved can they get? (sorry…..I shouldn’t ask such obvious questions!)
February 6th, 2007 at 10:58 amLieberman is a travesty, a chameleon whose real agenda is the same as that of George C. Schultz- also a member of the Committee on the Present Danger, and a shill for the oil oligarchs as well. Want to improve the morale of our troops? Bring them home.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:59 amDoes anyone have a list of the various War Profiteering Corporations making megabucks on this insane war? I’d LOVE to see the list of their shareholders and various boards of directors! You can be damn sure it’d be pretty “telling” about precisely who the warmongers/war enablers are because they are “feathering their personal nests” on the war machine. Haliburton is the obvious one….along with the Carlyle Group (Pappy Bush’s cadre of friends who were in NYC on 9/10), and plenty of others……ahem…..something caught in my throat on that one!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:00 am#13 LiverLips’s “candidacy” is over before it begins when it comes time for him to vote, isn’t it?
February 6th, 2007 at 11:01 amLieberman works for Rockefeller - ultimately we all do:
Both of these are Brief – important viewing
David Rockefeller – American Traitor:
Founder of Council On Foreign Relations:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ensmPJm5B5A&NR
David Rockefeller & Dick Cheney:
American Traitors…
Cheney laughs about lying to his constituents in order to get elected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdxLYuvvbgs&NR
February 6th, 2007 at 11:01 am#11 - Vince P
Try going back and reading the article and the comments.
Although I served in the Air Force from ‘67-’71 the comments here are about patriotism and supporting the troops not about who can make comments.
The chickenhawks, be they Republican or Democrat, are despicable. They continually question the patriotism of those who served such as Warner, Webb, Murtha and many others. At the same time they CHOOSE not to serve. What audacity!
At the first chance they throw up the red herring of supporting the troops. Keeping the troops in harms way for an injust cause is the ultimate in not supporting the troops.
Whoever coined the phrase chickenhawks should be praised forever.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:02 amPutting our troops in a “war” with no defined strategy OR CONTINGENCIES, which incites a Civil War, THEN refusing to admit your mistake is about as LOW as you can go in your lack of support for Military personel, stupid LIEman.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:02 amAt least four of those named to the 9/11 Commission and staff have links to the intelligence apparatus.
Several years ago, Zgibniew Brzezinski talked about Operation Cyclone, which he initiated in 1979 at the end of Jimmy Carter’s presidential term. The CIA helped foster Islamic fundamentalism in Afghanistan to destabilize the region because of the Soviet Union — and oil.
The program continued throughout the 1980’s when G.W. H. Bush was vice president and CIA assets like bin Laden and Saddam Hussein directly or indirectly carried out U.S. covert activities and shadow government policies.
Council on Foreign Relations
Half of those named to the Commission — Kissinger, Mitchell, Kean, Hamilton, Lehman, and Gorelick — are members of the CFR. Rice was on the nominating committee in 1991.
As part of the shadow government, the Council has influenced national security policy so that its titular head has profited in arms and oil.
Since 1950, the Council on Foreign Relations has been David Rockefeller’s child. The CFR serves the interests of Rockefeller’s global empire of oil and financial interests (Exxon, Chase Manhattan Bank, JP Morgan Chase).
While the Council has 2,000 to 3,000 members — movers and shakers in politics, media, and corporate board rooms, the Historical Rosters of Directors and Officers show key CFR players are key players on the global scene: Allen W. Dulles, the first CIA director, was a primary CFR participant from 1927 to 1969; William (McGeorge) Bundy, National Security Advisor in the Kennedy and Johnson administrations and an architect of the Vietnam War, was editor of the Council’s publication, Foreign Affairs, from 1972 to 1984. Others notables include Averill Harriman; Brzezinski; George H.W. Bush; Kissinger; Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, and Dick Cheney.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:04 am#18, Ace
February 6th, 2007 at 11:04 amBecause Oceania has ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia……..
Lieberman must resign and be deported to Israel! Bye old Joe and bon voyage traitor!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:05 amPhotos from the CFR 1991 annual report near the end of the first Bush administration portray a snapshot of the Council near the end of the first Bush administration. David Rockefeller’s picture is prominent throughout the report. Photographs include Cheney in Paris, October 1990; the President of Mexico and David Rockefeller, and Cyrus Vance with the Security General of the U.N. and David Rockefeller. That 1991 meeting was prescient looking at the Gulf and the Future of the U.N.
Another photo is of Ahmed Chalabi, founder and former chair of Petra Bank, at a March 1991 round table discussion on the topic For Democracy in Iraq. He gave the current Bush administration misleading and fabricated information before the U.S. invaded Iraq last year.
http://www.communitycurrency.org/joycelynn.html
February 6th, 2007 at 11:06 amSo Joe, what war did you serve in? What war are your/ have your children served in? Let me guess……none!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:10 amNice to see Warner bravely leap to the defense of the watered-down resolution which he wrote, conned Dems into going along with, and then filibustered.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:14 amRight…because nothing says “I support the job you are doing” quite like sending a ton more people to help do the job better and faster.
Yet still not enough training or body armour, no date these troops can go home to see their families, harsh punishments for any that speak up about wanting to go home, sending more soldier into an increasingly hostile territory, no plan and nothing even close to what it means to “win” this “war”.
Frankly, if that is support then I think we would all be better off if Republicans never supported anything ever and just kept their mouths shut and their “help” to themselves.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:14 amAn informed thread. I agree with most of what is written here. Most importantly with
people with no military expereience should be quiet.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:15 amI agree with the conclusion of this article. All you people with no military expereience should be quiet. and by extension, no civilian should be in the chain of command.
Comment by Vince P —
Hey Vinnie P,
What’s your military experience?
February 6th, 2007 at 11:19 amThey INTENTIONALLY created a no win situation.
Rumsfeld threatened to fire any General who worked on the plan for the aftermath of the invasion.
THIS IS QUAGMIRE BY DESIGN.
All of the debate now was anticipated before the hoax war ever started. Note how the Republicans are now demanding that in order for the Democrats to criticise the war, call for its end, or block the surge - they are presenting a red herring…
“You must present a plan to win the war if you dare criticise the President’s approach.”
This is of course a false choice - by design.
There is no such thing as a “winning strategy” to extricate this country from the No Win Situation that was specifically designed by the Neocons in order to enable the occupation and depopulation of the Middle East - on behalf of Israel and Big Oil (both owned by David Rockefeller).
9/11 was the most critical part of this plan. They are ALL in on it.
Do you get it?
February 6th, 2007 at 11:23 amI agree with the conclusion of this article. All you people with no military expereience should be quiet. and by extension, no civilian should be in the chain of command.
Comment by Vince P —
Then THAT would mean that BUSH and CHENEY should be removed from their post, amd LIERMAN should SHUT THE HELL UP!!!
GREAT COMMENT!!!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:24 am“now cannot help their morale.” Being led by incompetent, inept, idiots, into a war with no end, and an undefined mission is what destroys morale.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:25 amI agree with the conclusion of this article. All you people with no military expereience should be quiet. and by extension, no civilian should be in the chain of command.
Comment by Vince P — February 6, 2007 @ 10:49 am
Vince P, this is what we call a military junta or dictatorship. If that is the form of government you favor then you have no business being a U.S. citizen. I suggest renouncing your citizenship and moving to a sub-Saharan African country presently applying this model of government.
I did chortle at your idiotic failure to understand that your man Bush is a civilian with no military experience. Priceless.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:30 amWhy is the left praying for failure in Iraq? Why do you hate America so much? Why do you care about the rights of terrorists more than Scooter Libby?
The left would commit genocide if it meant getting Bush out of office. I pray for your souls.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:34 amThe left would commit genocide if it meant getting Bush out of office. I pray for your souls.
Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 6, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Deadender. Last throes.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:39 amOh no he didn’t!!!!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:42 amI would say that Joe should, “take it on the chin, like a man”, but the wank HAS no chin. No chin, no guts, no testicles…
February 6th, 2007 at 11:42 amSomething tells me Big Oil is behind all of this.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:42 amLHL, I fixed your post:
Why is the BushCo hell-bent on continuing the failure in Iraq? Why does BushCo hate American democracy so much? Why does BushCo care about the rights of corporations more than people?
The neocon right under BushCo has supported genocide in Iraq, in the form of civil war, to maintain itself in office and to consolidate their and, by extension U.S., power in the Middle East. I would pray for their souls, if I thought they had any.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:42 amI’m with Jay on this thread, lie-berman should be shipped off to Israel. I do have a request though, can we ship chertoff off with him…I’ll even chip in for the one way tacket’s…..Don’t forget to take away their pass ports….Go home joe……..Blessings
February 6th, 2007 at 11:43 amJoe Lieberman is a blight on the human race. I mean, in light of how this guy has acted since Gore’s defeat would anyone would have wanted this guy as VEEP? I mean, he’s no Cheney, but he is despicable.
I hope this tack he is taking comepletely destroys his political career in the next election cycle. Wishful thinking, but Joe needs to be put down.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:45 am#39 - Liberal Heart Terrorists
Is it a requirement that all trolls have an IQ lower than 10?
#1 - Try to stay with the subject. Lieberman accusing Warner of not supporting the troops and not being patriotic. Lieberman is an independent and Warner is a Republican. Neither of them would be considered part of the “left”
#2 - Praying for failure . . . This sort of tripe has lost its effectiveness months, if not years ago. Try coming up with some new idea.
#3 - The left would commit genocide . . . I’d try to explain the irony of this dumb comment to you, but you probably wouldn’t understand it, so I won’t try. (Hint - Think about genocide when you start thinking about going into a soverign country and being the cause of death of over 100,000 citizens of that country.)
February 6th, 2007 at 11:46 amI pray for your souls.
Pray for the dead. All 652,000 or so sacrificed to the boy kings vanity war. And pray for the souls of people who continue to support this senseless slaughter as they are in need of divine intervention.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:47 amWAY TO GO CONNECTICUT!!!! THANKS A WHOLE F’ING BUNCH!!!
February 6th, 2007 at 11:49 amLieberman’s tired talking point is so worn out. Didn’t anyone tell him?
February 6th, 2007 at 11:55 amJustan American- So veterans are some sort of aristocratic class that are the only ones who can speak on this subject? Yeah right. Anyone can speak on this subject. Being in the armed forces doesn’t make you some sort of expert on world politics. This cult of hero worship is getting a little out of hand. O.K. your in the military, that takes balls, congratulations. Unless your speaking about strictly military matters, you are no more or less qualified to speak than anyone else.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:58 amLieberman reminds me of my old penmanship teacher I had in grade school. She used to rap me on the knuckles. I hated her too, in the worst way.
February 6th, 2007 at 12:01 pm#39 - “Why is the left praying for failure in Iraq?”
We’re not. We’re looking at Iraq realistically.
Why did the right refuse to properly plan for Iraq?
“Why do you hate America so much?”
We don’t. It’s the right that hates America by trying to suspend the Constitution and engaging in torture. Why do YOU hate America so much?
“Why do you care about the rights of terrorists more than Scooter Libby?”
Straw man argument. Sad, but typical right neo-con tactic.
“The left would commit genocide if it meant getting Bush out of office.”
Just like the right neo-cons would have commited genocide in their efforts to trash Pres. Clinton?
“I pray for your souls.” Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 6, 2007 @ 11:34 am
Liar. You pray for more debt, less Constitutional protections for Americans, and more neo-con fantasies of global war forever.
February 6th, 2007 at 12:10 pmMeanwhile, Oregon’s Gordon Smith debates himself.
Gordon Smith in December:
“I for one am at the end of my rope when it comes to supporting a policy that has our soldiers patrolling the same streets in the same way being blown up by the same bombs day after day. That is absurd. It may even be criminal.”
Gordon Smith on voting to block debate:
“It’s inevitable that people want to ascribe political motives to this, but I just hope a majority of Oregonians understand when it comes to issues of war and peace, there’s no issue of greater gravity on your heart and mind. Oregonians are patriots and want to fight the war on terror, but they don’t like the way this war has mutated.”
For the sad history on Smith’s flip-flop, see:
February 6th, 2007 at 12:11 pm“Gordon Smith Caves, Blocks Iraq Vote.”
Can someone please make Lieberman SHUT THE $^*% UP?
He is absolutley and completely disconnected from any form of reality and is a disgrace to the human race.
He needs to resign and go sit in some rocking chair for the rest of his life!
February 6th, 2007 at 12:13 pmHillary of the “Vast Right Wing Conspiracy” fame?
She was right you know…as the neocon agenda has now proven.
They took down Bill and basically gave them an ultimatum. They aligned with the dark side (took the bribes) and the next thing you know, GHW and Billy are off saving the world together.
Coincidence?
There are no coincidences
Bill Clinton was set up and is now controlled.
Marc Rich Pardon?
Gimme a break.
They’re all in the employ of David Rockefeller and his “Earth For Israel” project.
February 6th, 2007 at 12:19 pmCaption Contest:
February 6th, 2007 at 12:20 pm‘I’ll get that cwazy wabbit yet!’
If Lieberman wasn’t needed to maintain majority of the Senate, I’d be looking at ways to force him to caucus with the repubs… Afterall, it was the Republicans that got him elected.
February 6th, 2007 at 12:53 pmLieberman is the worst form of pond-scum imaginable….
but truthfully I am just as angry at the dems for not funding and backing Lamont. How many lilly-livered dems in the Senate backed down and turned a blind eye to the election in Conn.? When a 2-term senator can’t win his own primary (can’t even get 40%) that should signal bells and whistles going off everywhere. None of the dems with their hands on the controls took note of what was happening and now the dems are stuck with a lying spy in their caucus—and a no win situation—boot him out and loose the chamber, let him stay and give your position and stratagy away at every turn.
As a true leftie all I can say is the dems f**ked this up and now they are paying every day!!!
February 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pmLamont won the primary, had the support of MANY high profile Dems, and did have good funding. Lieberman got some Dem votes because he was an incumbant and there are some central-align Dems that actually like him, but by and large the reason he won was because Repubs completely abandoned their candidate for Lieberman.
I don’t see this as a failure of the DNC, but rather a failure of a single candidate (Lieberman) to respect the party that got him into power in the first place.
February 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmI think it is time to step back and take a look at what Holy Joe voted on. The following is a link and key provisions of the war resolution.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2002/ 10/ 20021002-2.html
The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President to–
(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages him in those efforts; and
(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council resolutions.
SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate
SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS
(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2 and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required after such actions are completed, including those actions described in section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).
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This language ties Congressional authorization for war to Saddam not complying with UN resolutions, including those not yet passed. The UN passed a resolution demanding UN inspectors be granted full, immediate access to all facilities they deemed appropriate. This is what Holy Job voted for. Since Saddam was in material compliance with this UN resolution I have a problem understanding where Bush has acted in compliance with the Iraq war resolution, especially if you read “as he determines to be necessary and appropriate” as being in reference to the earlier language limiting that to Saddam not complying with the UN resolution it then becomes hard to see where the authorization for the invasion came from. Is this, then, not the commission of “a high crime or misdemeanor”. Focus on that for a while Holy Joe.
February 6th, 2007 at 2:05 pmI think Joe Lieberman is a piece of CRAP! and he is not an independant he is a republican.
February 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmNeocons like Lieberman do not care how many Americans,Iraqis or others die in wars as long as their Neocon’s agenda remains in place.
As long as they are not asked to sacrifice one of their own kids,relatives or buddies…then and only then they might question the war….until that happens, they are hawkish on wars for unlimited period of time ,giving themselves the right to select their own targets around the globe as they wish.
While they are acting in a hawkish way,none of them been to any war,yet they have the courage to question others patriotism like Lieberman.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:09 pmComment by DallasNE — February 6, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
The United Nations deemed that the invasion and occupation of Iraq by the United States an illegal act. There has never been any change in that position.
Iraq had been tirelessly working on relief from the UN resolutions and sanctions and with the exception of the United States vote, had met all conditions.
The unilateral decision to invade a soverign country was wrong and criminal. Someday it will be reported that way and this administration along with the monkey in charge, will be judged in that light.
This is not a “war” by any stretch of the imagination. It is genocide and an occupation.
Period.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:11 pmI’d love to know how Warner feels about getting the republican treatment: the patriotism of a veteran being impugned by a cowardly, namby pamby.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:12 pm.
What, the self-important jew with no military background supporting isreali/neocon policies with american lives?
You’re kidding.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmAnd that quite frankly is the way that types like Joe Libermann et al, have framed the occupation. The have called it a war but who are we fighting? We are hard pressed to come up with any evidence that our troops are facing an enemy.
They are shooting at and being shot at by Iraqi civilians who don’t want US troops in Iraq.
You can’t support an effort emotionally or financially if you know that the reality is that we are shooting up Shia and Sunni civilians who only want us out of their backyards.
When is the last time this administration has hung up a poster of a known terrorist?? When have they produced any real evidence that our troops are fighting Al Queda?
If you truly believe that our men and women are dying at the hands of a terrorist, then you wouldn’t have any trouble with support or have to question the patriotism of your fellow americans.
Problem is, no one believes that our men and women are dying at the hands of terrorist. We all believe that they are dying at the hands of a civilian Iraqi, who only wants his backyard and his country back.
And that, in a nutshell, is exactly why we need to get out and stop this folly that we are fighting a war on terror.
We are killing civilians.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:23 pmThe way I see it, let the Republicans filibuster. In two years, we can get a few more seats in the Senate.
February 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmLieberman is calling today for a ‘new tax to be payed by citizens ‘as a sacrifice’ for war on terror . !!
February 6th, 2007 at 4:04 pmKarim, great game plan, am in.
February 6th, 2007 at 4:12 pmJoe Libermann, a true American, more military experiance than John Warner, yet less than Bush JR. and The Dick combined a real patriot. It’s without a doubt, the true role of Americans best is to protect the Holy Land, for the second coming. The American Middle East policy must be based on Christian and Judaic beliefs. The people of the Middle East must understand, that the WASP is here for their own good, they must be Democratized, Civilized, and most importantly Proselytized without exception. Like, Rush say’s War is War and people die in War, he should know being the most highly decorated special forces member in the history of the American military. Rush makes John Warner, Chuck Hageal look like the panty wearing, cross dessing, bed wetting, draft dogers they truely are. PTL in wyoming
February 6th, 2007 at 4:26 pmThe despicable Bush-lover Lieberman has proven beyond the SHADOW OF A DOUBT(with apologies to Sir Alfred Hitchcock) that he is an opportunist in the vein of the pasty-faced vile flip-flopping madman John McCain the Pain–each time either of these scum open their vile yap-traps, a torrent of lying innuendo spills out of their maws…both have snuggled up to CHIMPya and Co. and have given the “OSCULUM INFAME”, Kiss of Shame, i.e., “Kissing the Devil’s Anus” to their master, CHIMPya! “The Devil Made Me Do It!” NO ORCHIDS FOR MISS BLANDISH(with apologies to James Hadley Chase) and NO Mea Culpas from LIE-berman and McPain…if they are capable of kissing the Diabolo-Devil Bush’s anus, why am I not surprised to hear apologies from either?
February 6th, 2007 at 4:33 pmI always liked John Warner - too bad his Alzheimers and Smedley Butler Disease is affecting his judgment.
February 6th, 2007 at 6:09 pmNOW IS THE TIME FOR THIS ACTION:
Lieberman has shown his contempt for Connecticut, for the Democrats. Now he is challenging Warner. From the video, it appears he has a “secret” that Warner is challenging him on, and Lieberman thinks that he is being cute. What a disgraceful traitor he is! Watch him give someone in the audience a little knowing look while he “smiles”.
Now the action. Speaker Pelosi — REMOVE Lieberman at once from the chairmanship of any committee. I noticed his appointment when it was done, and thought it was a horrible mistake. That has been proven to be true.
I respectfully request of CONNECTICUT. Recall this creep!
February 6th, 2007 at 6:12 pmYou were “had.”
Mora - Maybe you shouldn’t have played hookie when they were teaching Government Class. If Speaker of the HOUSE Pelosi COULD remove SENATOR Leiberman, she would do it in a heartbeat.
(Hint: THINK first - then type…)
February 6th, 2007 at 6:19 pmNot hookie, in school Valiant Venus. When I was typed the comment I was multi-tasking. I had gone on to another task at hand and remembered I had typed Pelosi, with the intent of correcting myself. I fear listening to news about Pelosi’s plane may have added to my “crime.”
However, I’m sure Senator Reid still feels he did the right thing in appointing the creep.
You are exactly right. Hint: well taken.
Peculiar you would bring up school.
February 6th, 2007 at 6:59 pmNO! Sending 20,000 troops when you need 200,000 or more is hurting the troops morale.
February 6th, 2007 at 7:06 pmSending troops without the proper life saving equipment is hurting their morale.
Sending 20,000 troops without the proper life saving equipment is hurting their morale even more.
Paying Blackwater mercenaries 100x the troops salary is hurting their morale.
KBR giving our troops sewage to shower in is hurting their morale.
Leaving tons of high density explosives for insurgents to attack our troops with is hurtingthier morale.
Sending troops oout every day, down the same street, to be bombed and snipered at and then sent ou tto do the same thing the next day and the next and the next while Iraqis wage a civil war around you is hurting their morale.
Handing IRaq over to the Iranians and then starting a war with IRan is hurting their morale.
HEY GREGOR, it would feel good for me to smash your head against the conrete until your brains bubble out your nose. Tell me where you live so I can “feel good and do it!”
February 6th, 2007 at 7:09 pmA great picture of Lieberman with McCain and Graham. You’ll like this one! He thinks what is needed is a “War Tax.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2007/ 02/ 06/ lieberman-lets-have-a-_n_40585.html?p=4#comments
February 6th, 2007 at 7:10 pmI can’t wait till we take more seats in 08 so we can lose loser Lieberman.
February 6th, 2007 at 7:14 pmRE: Gordon Smith, Smith lied to the Eugene Register Guard on Jan. 24th, saying he was going to cosponsor the Warner/Levin resolution. He not only has NOT become a cosponsor, but just voted to filibuster that same resolution last night.
February 6th, 2007 at 7:57 pmDear Mora - I appreciate the “multi-tasking” excuse - please tell me you don’t drive and talk on the phone at the same time.
February 6th, 2007 at 8:06 pmYou are exactly right. Hint: well taken.
Peculiar you would bring up school.
Comment by Mora — February 6, 2007 @ 6:59 pm
She’s 22, a mere child, and not a very bright one at that. What can you expect from the spawn of Uranus?
Dear Mora - I appreciate the “multi-tasking†excuse - please tell me you don’t drive and talk on the phone at the same time. Comment by valiant venus — February 6, 2007 @ 8:06 pm
Dear spawn of uranus, you might make more sense if you at a tictac. Anorexia makes you stupid.
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February 6th, 2007 at 8:25 pmchutzpah.
February 6th, 2007 at 10:38 pmGood ole Joe. Talking like he picked up a few Medals of Honor in Nam. Pathetic. Wow, Ole Joe has really driven off the road into the desert. What, they not making enough Black Hawks in now in CT for your next campaign ? And how many are of your close friend’s kids over their in Iraq now Joe ? I bet not a dammed one of them, you fraud.
February 6th, 2007 at 11:38 pmNext time I pay attention to Lieberman on a foreign policty issue is when I see his frumpy, sorry ass on the front line in fatigues and under fire……not before.
February 7th, 2007 at 12:36 amhe is the worst of the worst. backstabing neo-con. thanks connecticut.
February 7th, 2007 at 9:20 amCURSE Connecticut Repulsivescum…
…and their AIPAC lobby…
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