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]]> By: Vic http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1877008 Vic Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:06:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1877008 I'd like to insert in this issue, that the Christian bashing is not well. A group laying claim to a Christian title does not actually mean, categorically, that every one involved is Christian in heart, faith and true understanding of God's Word. If God didn't give us free will, then we wouldn't be here to learn and observe to "choose" between good and bad. Therefore, dictatorship is too far reaching...especially for one claiming to be a Christian by faith in trusting the will of God for humanity. Governor Perry left an outlet for those unwilling to have, much less to pay for, their own children to become test trials. The only thing is, intimidation doesn't stop with the "opt-out", it's only the beginning....and those who will choose it, will first have to know that it is an "option"....which is the unspoken and hidden right not offered nor afforded within the local schools innoculations program. Yes, such a ruling...is a "ruling" and that's the only fact that is currently clear. I’d like to insert in this issue, that the Christian bashing is not well.
A group laying claim to a Christian title does not actually mean, categorically, that every one involved is Christian in heart, faith and true understanding of God’s Word.
If God didn’t give us free will, then we wouldn’t be here to learn and observe to “choose” between good and bad. Therefore, dictatorship is too far reaching…especially for one claiming to be a Christian by faith in trusting the will of God for humanity.
Governor Perry left an outlet for those unwilling to have, much less to pay for, their own children to become test trials. The only thing is, intimidation doesn’t stop with the “opt-out”, it’s only the beginning….and those who will choose it, will first have to know that it is an “option”….which is the unspoken and hidden right not offered nor afforded within the local schools innoculations program.
Yes, such a ruling…is a “ruling” and that’s the only fact that is currently clear.

]]> By: annie http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1679081 annie Thu, 08 Feb 2007 17:07:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1679081 <strong>Attention!</strong> Progress Report writers: I am glad you are covering the story of Gov. Perry's mandating the HPV vaccine for girls, but what's FREAKING ME OUT is that you keep putting it in the "Good News" column. As most of the above comments show, this news is riddled with ethical, medical, social, political, economic etc. problems - problems being "bad" things, not "good". How 'bout puting it in the "State Watch" column? Thanks! Attention! Progress Report writers: I am glad you are covering the story of Gov. Perry’s mandating the HPV vaccine for girls, but what’s FREAKING ME OUT is that you keep putting it in the “Good News” column. As most of the above comments show, this news is riddled with ethical, medical, social, political, economic etc. problems – problems being “bad” things, not “good”. How ’bout puting it in the “State Watch” column? Thanks!

]]> By: Don http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1678863 Don Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:36:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1678863 Veritas asks all the right questions. Read his/her comments. Incidentally, young people will always have sex. The drive is stronger than any prohibitions will ever be. The only thing the moral crusade against sex will produce is a dysfunctional sense of guilt. Veritas asks all the right questions. Read his/her comments. Incidentally, young people will always have sex. The drive is stronger than any prohibitions will ever be. The only thing the moral crusade against sex will produce is a dysfunctional sense of guilt.

]]> By: Anon1 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1678843 Anon1 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:34:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1678843 Quit deifying Perry. He's a snake. One decision that he made not because he cares, but because he's in bed with pharma, and some progrossives start fawning all over him. Quit deifying Perry. He’s a snake. One decision that he made not because he cares, but because he’s in bed with pharma, and some progrossives start fawning all over him.

]]> By: Don http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1678824 Don Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:30:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1678824 Blah, blah, blah has it right. I surely don't trust our government. Instead, there should be good, honest information disseminated and then the girls and their parents should make their choice. We have lost too much autonomy already and look where it it leading us. Blah, blah, blah has it right. I surely don’t trust our government. Instead, there should be good, honest information disseminated and then the girls and their parents should make their choice. We have lost too much autonomy already and look where it it leading us.

]]> By: shortman009 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-2/#comment-1676761 shortman009 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:38:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1676761 alright morons. obviously people are going to have sex, duh. i wasn't seriously implying that people shouldn't. i know full well about human nature. but i'm mostly agreeing with jackie when she said <em>When young girls find out they can’t have children or become deformed because of this vaccine all the so called Religious leaders and the Governor will have gotten their money and it will be up to the Federal Government to pay for medical treatment. This is all about people being paid for allowing kids to be experiment’s. Bush as lead the way for anyone to sell out for money even if it cost lives. Look at the GOP who are watching our troops die everyday yet doing nothing about trying to keep them safe. Life means nothing anymore it’s now a country of everyone for themselves. You wonder why kids are killing each other their doing by adult example.</em> i know girls my age that are getting the vaccine now and they all said "i don't remember hearing about this in health class". exactly. because they didn't. this should also change. there's nothing at all wrong with letting people decide for themselves what they want to do with themselves. oh. and next time. please read my post past the part where it says don't have sex so its not taken out of context. yes, context. it was hypothetical, best case. alright morons.
obviously people are going to have sex, duh. i wasn’t seriously implying that people shouldn’t. i know full well about human nature. but i’m mostly agreeing with jackie when she said When young girls find out they can’t have children or become deformed because of this vaccine all the so called Religious leaders and the Governor will have gotten their money and it will be up to the Federal Government to pay for medical treatment. This is all about people being paid for allowing kids to be experiment’s. Bush as lead the way for anyone to sell out for money even if it cost lives. Look at the GOP who are watching our troops die everyday yet doing nothing about trying to keep them safe. Life means nothing anymore it’s now a country of everyone for themselves. You wonder why kids are killing each other their doing by adult example.

i know girls my age that are getting the vaccine now and they all said “i don’t remember hearing about this in health class”. exactly. because they didn’t. this should also change. there’s nothing at all wrong with letting people decide for themselves what they want to do with themselves.

oh. and next time. please read my post past the part where it says don’t have sex so its not taken out of context. yes, context. it was hypothetical, best case.

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1676422 Evil Spaniard Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:29:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1676422 <em>As if it hasn’t been mostly atheistic and nihilist idoelogies that have rained death on humanity over the past 100 years. Good-bye. Comment by William — February 8, 2007 @ 3:32 am</em> Frankly, I think the cause has been the human nature in itself, and the religion (or lack of) the excuse to cause that rain of death. BTW, Hitler was a fervent catholic, many of his officers christian protestants and they slaughthered around 17 milion of 'atheistic and nihilist' soviets (soldiers and civilians altogether), among many other people of different religions. The first ones suffering the concentration camps were german socialist, communists and freethinkers, and Spanish Civil War exiliates. The emperor of Japan was a divine being himself (if you believe in the shintoist religion). As if it hasn’t been mostly atheistic and nihilist idoelogies that have rained death on humanity over the past 100 years.
Good-bye.

Comment by William — February 8, 2007 @ 3:32 am

Frankly, I think the cause has been the human nature in itself, and the religion (or lack of) the excuse to cause that rain of death. BTW, Hitler was a fervent catholic, many of his officers christian protestants and they slaughthered around 17 milion of ‘atheistic and nihilist’ soviets (soldiers and civilians altogether), among many other people of different religions. The first ones suffering the concentration camps were german socialist, communists and freethinkers, and Spanish Civil War exiliates. The emperor of Japan was a divine being himself (if you believe in the shintoist religion).

]]> By: William http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1674864 William Thu, 08 Feb 2007 08:32:32 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1674864 Man, this post and its Christian hatred really turns off those of us who are Christian AND progressive. FYI, most of your liberal and humanist ideas would not have evolved in the West without Christ's teachings. What liberal, radical or pprogressive religion did the Roman's and Greeks preach? That's what you would have today if not for Christ. "Religious people are the most dangerous people on earth?!...Puleeze. As if it hasn't been mostly atheistic and nihilist idoelogies that have rained death on humanity over the past 100 years. Good-bye. Man, this post and its Christian hatred really turns off those of us who are Christian AND progressive. FYI, most of your liberal and humanist ideas would not have evolved in the West without Christ’s teachings. What liberal, radical or pprogressive religion did the Roman’s and Greeks preach? That’s what you would have today if not for Christ. “Religious people are the most dangerous people on earth?!…Puleeze. As if it hasn’t been mostly atheistic and nihilist idoelogies that have rained death on humanity over the past 100 years.
Good-bye.

]]> By: Lee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1673575 Lee Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:44:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1673575 Exactly! Did they poll Muslim physicians? Hindu physicians? Jewish physicians? I think you know the answer as well as I do. HELL NO!!! Life in Jesusland..... Exactly! Did they poll Muslim physicians? Hindu physicians? Jewish physicians? I think you know the answer as well as I do.

HELL NO!!!

Life in Jesusland…..

]]> By: jay severin has a small pen1s http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1673471 jay severin has a small pen1s Thu, 08 Feb 2007 03:10:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1673471 Wow. For people NOT supposed to have sex and from a government NOT willing to give out condoms, this seems like an extreme measure. Are even the good little Christian girls getting the shot? They have very little faith in those little skanks, eh? I think I'll have my daughter pass on this. Wow. For people NOT supposed to have sex and from a government NOT willing to give out condoms, this seems like an extreme measure. Are even the good little Christian girls getting the shot? They have very little faith in those little skanks, eh?

I think I’ll have my daughter pass on this.

]]> By: Lsquared http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1673254 Lsquared Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:38:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1673254 The reason to mandate vaccination is that the more people who get vaccinated, the less virus there is to be transmitted. This is how we were abile to eradicate polio in many areas of the world. The reason to mandate vaccination is that the more people who get vaccinated, the less virus there is to be transmitted. This is how we were abile to eradicate polio in many areas of the world.

]]> By: Goebbels http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1673248 Goebbels Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:36:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1673248 Syphilis used to kill millions of people until the twentieth century. When effective antibiotic treatment first came out for syphilis in the early 20th century, there was an outcry from Christian conservatives who said that making treatment available was interfering with God's will and promoting sexual promiscuity. There would be no debate about a cancer vaccine being mandatory if it dealt with other forms of cancer such as lung, breast, prostate and colon cancer or leukemias and lymphomas. Yet, because this particular vaccine deals with a cancer caused by a virus that is transmitted by sex, people start getting uptight about giving it to their daughters to prevent cervical cancer. Syphilis used to kill millions of people until the twentieth century. When effective antibiotic treatment first came out for syphilis in the early 20th century, there was an outcry from Christian conservatives who said that making treatment available was interfering with God’s will and promoting sexual promiscuity. There would be no debate about a cancer vaccine being mandatory if it dealt with other forms of cancer such as lung, breast, prostate and colon cancer or leukemias and lymphomas. Yet, because this particular vaccine deals with a cancer caused by a virus that is transmitted by sex, people start getting uptight about giving it to their daughters to prevent cervical cancer.

]]> By: Lsquared http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/comment-page-1/#comment-1673244 Lsquared Thu, 08 Feb 2007 02:36:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/christian-doctors-back-texas-hpv-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1673244 The vaccine is better than abstinence! Abstinence is not enough. Even if a woman waits until she is married before she has sex---or even waits until after she is married and only has sex when she wants to have a child (the ultimate goal of fundamentalists)--she can get HPV from her husband. Also, sadly, women can get raped. The vaccine protects women when abstinence can't. We need to keep reminding the fundamentalists---abstinence-only education does not increase abstinent behavior (but several comprehensive programs do). So, that is also not a plan to prevent cervical cancer. Especially since they support the wrong programs for their stated goals. The vaccine is better than abstinence!

Abstinence is not enough. Even if a woman waits until she is married before she has sex—or even waits until after she is married and only has sex when she wants to have a child (the ultimate goal of fundamentalists)–she can get HPV from her husband. Also, sadly, women can get raped. The vaccine protects women when abstinence can’t.

We need to keep reminding the fundamentalists—abstinence-only education does not increase abstinent behavior (but several comprehensive programs do). So, that is also not a plan to prevent cervical cancer. Especially since they support the wrong programs for their stated goals.

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