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	<title>Comments on: Gates and Pace Say Congressional Debate On Escalation Does Not Harm The Troops</title>
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		<title>By: Jamie Wright</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-2/#comment-1765873</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 16:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve noticed stirrings in the anti war community of a us tax boycott, and I wonder what kind of impact that would have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed stirrings in the anti war community of a us tax boycott, and I wonder what kind of impact that would have.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1765873', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Funamoto</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1680546</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Funamoto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If MASTER-Gates and PETTY-Pace think the surge won&#039;t harm our troops, then I am Napoleon and I want to LICK THE HOLE OF FRANCE! What a pair of maroons...but then, they are the Charlie McCarthy and Mortimer Snerd of CHIMPya and Torticola Cheney, so why am I NOT surprised at their utter disregard of the American Fighting Men and Women who WILL DIE MISERABLY because of their FALSE PRIDE and MANIAC IDIOCY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If MASTER-Gates and PETTY-Pace think the surge won&#8217;t harm our troops, then I am Napoleon and I want to LICK THE HOLE OF FRANCE! What a pair of maroons&#8230;but then, they are the Charlie McCarthy and Mortimer Snerd of CHIMPya and Torticola Cheney, so why am I NOT surprised at their utter disregard of the American Fighting Men and Women who WILL DIE MISERABLY because of their FALSE PRIDE and MANIAC IDIOCY?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1680546', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: marcus robinson</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1680270</link>
		<dc:creator>marcus robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course it dosen&#039;t but the republicans saying that the  Democrats want &quot;cut and run&quot; hurts the troops because there are thousands of men and women over there who are Democrats. Maybe these no good republican chicken hawk should give that some thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course it dosen&#8217;t but the republicans saying that the  Democrats want &#8220;cut and run&#8221; hurts the troops because there are thousands of men and women over there who are Democrats. Maybe these no good republican chicken hawk should give that some thought.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1680270', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1680156</link>
		<dc:creator>ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;This guy can try to interpret the legality of a war, the legality of orders, and try to Interpret the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, but does not realize he is signing a confession?
Please, give me a break. Comment by hacker bob â€” February 8, 2007 @ 9:13 am&lt;/em&gt;

Actually that&#039;s exactly what soldiers are supposed to do.  As the Nuremberg trials laid out.

The legality of the war is in question, by minds much rational than yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>This guy can try to interpret the legality of a war, the legality of orders, and try to Interpret the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, but does not realize he is signing a confession?<br />
Please, give me a break. Comment by hacker bob â€” February 8, 2007 @ 9:13 am</em></p>
<p>Actually that&#8217;s exactly what soldiers are supposed to do.  As the Nuremberg trials laid out.</p>
<p>The legality of the war is in question, by minds much rational than yours.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1680156', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Pete Bogs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1678775</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Bogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 16:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>take that, President Bush! we&#039;re tired of you trying to gain political points by bashing war opponents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>take that, President Bush! we&#8217;re tired of you trying to gain political points by bashing war opponents&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1678775', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EvangeliKILL</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1677912</link>
		<dc:creator>EvangeliKILL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee willakers what a couple-o-champs.</description>
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		<title>By: TripMaster Monkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>TripMaster Monkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hacker bob, you seem to be confused.

Lt. Watada isn&#039;t disputing that he refused follow orders to deploy.  He&#039;s disputing the &lt;i&gt;legality&lt;/i&gt; of those orders.  Therefore, he is correct when he maintains that the agreement he signed is not a &#039;confession&#039;.

The court-martial was doomed to be a mistrial anyway, with military judge Lt. Col. John Head refusing to allow almost all defense witnesses to take the stand, and ruling that Watadaâ€™s attorney, Eric Seitz, could not debate the legality of the Iraq war in court.  The legality or illegality of the war is at the very heart of this case...the reason Lt. Watada refused to deploy in the first place.  Disallowing any debate regarding the legality of the war completely obviates the point of &lt;i&gt;having&lt;/i&gt; a trial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hacker bob, you seem to be confused.</p>
<p>Lt. Watada isn&#8217;t disputing that he refused follow orders to deploy.  He&#8217;s disputing the <i>legality</i> of those orders.  Therefore, he is correct when he maintains that the agreement he signed is not a &#8216;confession&#8217;.</p>
<p>The court-martial was doomed to be a mistrial anyway, with military judge Lt. Col. John Head refusing to allow almost all defense witnesses to take the stand, and ruling that Watadaâ€™s attorney, Eric Seitz, could not debate the legality of the Iraq war in court.  The legality or illegality of the war is at the very heart of this case&#8230;the reason Lt. Watada refused to deploy in the first place.  Disallowing any debate regarding the legality of the war completely obviates the point of <i>having</i> a trial.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1677841', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous By Choice</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1677766</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous By Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though just watch the line &quot;...to provide the resources for the mission...&quot; be hailed by Republican trash as reason to NOT stop funding the troops - even the new ones going in. Will Dems have the spine to fight back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though just watch the line &#8220;&#8230;to provide the resources for the mission&#8230;&#8221; be hailed by Republican trash as reason to NOT stop funding the troops &#8211; even the new ones going in. Will Dems have the spine to fight back?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1677766', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hacker bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>hacker bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 14:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;A mistrial was declared in the court-martial of Lt. Ehren Watada. link to msnbc.

Comment by Uncle_Ho â€” February 7, 2007 @ 9:40 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, a mistrial was declared, but a new trial is set to begin mid-March (tentatively).

Grounds for mistrial in this case are that the Lt did not realize he was signing a confession when he admitted to choosing not to deploy with his unit.

From the article.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070207/cm_thenation/15164054&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Under questioning from Head, Watada said that he did not believe the agreement he had signed -- in which he acknowledged that he had chosen not to follow orders and deploy with his unit to Iraq -- was an admission of guilt. Indeed, Watada explained, he felt he had a right to argue in his defense that the war is illegal and that serving in it would cause him to participate in war crimes.&lt;/a&gt;

This guy can try to interpret the legality of a war, the legality of orders, and try to Interpret the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, but does not realize he is signing a confession?

 Please, give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>A mistrial was declared in the court-martial of Lt. Ehren Watada. link to msnbc.</p>
<p>Comment by Uncle_Ho â€” February 7, 2007 @ 9:40 pm</em></p>
<p>Yes, a mistrial was declared, but a new trial is set to begin mid-March (tentatively).</p>
<p>Grounds for mistrial in this case are that the Lt did not realize he was signing a confession when he admitted to choosing not to deploy with his unit.</p>
<p>From the article.<br />
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20070207/cm_thenation/15164054" rel="nofollow">Under questioning from Head, Watada said that he did not believe the agreement he had signed &#8212; in which he acknowledged that he had chosen not to follow orders and deploy with his unit to Iraq &#8212; was an admission of guilt. Indeed, Watada explained, he felt he had a right to argue in his defense that the war is illegal and that serving in it would cause him to participate in war crimes.</a></p>
<p>This guy can try to interpret the legality of a war, the legality of orders, and try to Interpret the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions, but does not realize he is signing a confession?</p>
<p> Please, give me a break.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1677123', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Draiman</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676861</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Draiman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY â€“ THE ENERGY EVOLUTION â€“R11

In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the United States of Americaâ€™s Utilization of Energy sources must change. 
&quot;Energy drives our entire economy.&quot;  We must protect it.  &quot;Let&#039;s face it, without energy the whole economy and economic society we have set up would come to a halt. So you want to have control over such an important resource that you need for your society and your economy.&quot;  The American way of life is not negotiable.
Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.

The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects with the use of energy efficient material, mechanical systems, appliances, lighting, etc.  The source of energy must by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic, Geothermal, Wind, Biofuels, Ocean-Tidal, etc. including utilizing water from lakes, rivers and oceans to circulate in cooling towers to produce air conditioning and the utilization of proper landscaping to reduce energy consumption. (Sales tax on renewable energy products should be reduced or eliminated)

The implementation of mandatory renewable energy could be done on a gradual scale over the next 10 years.  At the end of the 10 year period all construction and energy use in the structures throughout the United States must be 100% powered by renewable energy.  (This can be done by amending building code)

In addition, the governments must impose laws, rules and regulations whereby the utility companies must comply with a fair â€œNET METERINGâ€ (the buying of excess generation from the consumer at market price), including the promotion of research and production of â€œrenewable energy technologyâ€ with various long term incentives and grants.  The various foundations in existence should be used to contribute to this cause.   

 A mandatory time table should also be established for the automobile industry to gradually produce an automobile powered by renewable energy.  The American automobile industry is surely capable of accomplishing this task.  As an inducement to buy hybrid automobiles (sales tax should be reduced or eliminated on American manufactured automobiles).

This is a way to expedite our energy independence and economic growth.  (This will also create a substantial amount of new jobs). It will take maximum effort and a relentless pursuit of the private, commercial and industrial government sectors commitment to renewable energy â€“ energy generation (wind, solar, hydro, biofuels, geothermal, energy storage (fuel cells, advance batteries), energy infrastructure (management, transmission) and energy efficiency (lighting, sensors, automation, conservation) (rainwater harvesting, water conservation) (energy and natural resources conservation) in order to achieve our energy independence.

&quot;To succeed, you have to believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a reality.&quot;

Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant
Northridge, CA.  91325
Feb. 8, 2007

P.S.  I have a very deep belief in America&#039;s capabilities. Within the next 10 years we can accomplish our energy independence, if we as a nation truly set our goals to accomplish this.
I happen to believe that we can do it. In another crisis--the one in 1942--President Franklin D. Roosevelt said this country would build 60,000 [50,000] military aircraft. By 1943, production in that program had reached 125,000 aircraft annually. They did it then. We can do it now.
The American people resilience and determination to retain the way of life is unconquerable and we as a nation will succeed in this endeavor of Energy Independence.

Solar energy is the source of all energy on the earth (excepting volcanic geothermal). Wind, wave and fossil fuels all get their energy from the sun. Fossil fuels are only a battery which will eventually run out. The sooner we can exploit all forms of Solar energy (cost effectively or not against dubiously cheap FFs) the better off we will all be. If the battery runs out first, the survivors will all be living like in the 18th century again.

Every new home built should come with a solar package. A 1.5 kW per bedroom is a good rule of thumb. The formula 1.5 X&#039;s 5 hrs per day X&#039;s 30 days will produce about 225 kWh per bedroom monthly. This peak production period will offset 17 to 2

4 cents per kWh with a potential of $160 per month or about $60,000 over the 30-year mortgage period for a three-bedroom home. It is economically feasible at the current energy price and the interest portion of the loan is deductible. Why not?

Title 24 has been mandated forcing developers to build energy efficient homes. Their bull-headedness put them in that position and now they see that Title 24 works with little added cost. Solar should also be mandated and if the developer designs a home that solar is impossible to do then they should pay an equivalent mitigation fee allowing others to put solar on in place of their negligence. (Installation should be paid â€œperformance basedâ€)

Installation of renewable energy and its performance should be paid to the installer and manufacturer based on &quot;performance based&quot; (that means they are held accountable for the performance of the product - that includes the automobile industry). This will gain the trust and confidence of the end-user to proceed with such a project; it will also prove to the public that it is a viable avenue of energy conservation.

Installing renewable energy system on your home or business increases the value of the property and provides a marketing advantage.

Nations of the world should unite and join together in a cohesive effort to develop and implement MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY for the sake of humankind and future generations.


Jay Draiman
Northridge, CA 91325
Email: renewableenergy2@msn.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY â€“ THE ENERGY EVOLUTION â€“R11</p>
<p>In order to insure energy and economic independence as well as better economic growth without being blackmailed by foreign countries, our country, the United States of Americaâ€™s Utilization of Energy sources must change.<br />
&#8220;Energy drives our entire economy.&#8221;  We must protect it.  &#8220;Let&#8217;s face it, without energy the whole economy and economic society we have set up would come to a halt. So you want to have control over such an important resource that you need for your society and your economy.&#8221;  The American way of life is not negotiable.<br />
Our continued dependence on fossil fuels could and will lead to catastrophic consequences.</p>
<p>The federal, state and local government should implement a mandatory renewable energy installation program for residential and commercial property on new construction and remodeling projects with the use of energy efficient material, mechanical systems, appliances, lighting, etc.  The source of energy must by renewable energy such as Solar-Photovoltaic, Geothermal, Wind, Biofuels, Ocean-Tidal, etc. including utilizing water from lakes, rivers and oceans to circulate in cooling towers to produce air conditioning and the utilization of proper landscaping to reduce energy consumption. (Sales tax on renewable energy products should be reduced or eliminated)</p>
<p>The implementation of mandatory renewable energy could be done on a gradual scale over the next 10 years.  At the end of the 10 year period all construction and energy use in the structures throughout the United States must be 100% powered by renewable energy.  (This can be done by amending building code)</p>
<p>In addition, the governments must impose laws, rules and regulations whereby the utility companies must comply with a fair â€œNET METERINGâ€ (the buying of excess generation from the consumer at market price), including the promotion of research and production of â€œrenewable energy technologyâ€ with various long term incentives and grants.  The various foundations in existence should be used to contribute to this cause.   </p>
<p> A mandatory time table should also be established for the automobile industry to gradually produce an automobile powered by renewable energy.  The American automobile industry is surely capable of accomplishing this task.  As an inducement to buy hybrid automobiles (sales tax should be reduced or eliminated on American manufactured automobiles).</p>
<p>This is a way to expedite our energy independence and economic growth.  (This will also create a substantial amount of new jobs). It will take maximum effort and a relentless pursuit of the private, commercial and industrial government sectors commitment to renewable energy â€“ energy generation (wind, solar, hydro, biofuels, geothermal, energy storage (fuel cells, advance batteries), energy infrastructure (management, transmission) and energy efficiency (lighting, sensors, automation, conservation) (rainwater harvesting, water conservation) (energy and natural resources conservation) in order to achieve our energy independence.</p>
<p>&#8220;To succeed, you have to believe in something with such a passion that it becomes a reality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jay Draiman, Energy Consultant<br />
Northridge, CA.  91325<br />
Feb. 8, 2007</p>
<p>P.S.  I have a very deep belief in America&#8217;s capabilities. Within the next 10 years we can accomplish our energy independence, if we as a nation truly set our goals to accomplish this.<br />
I happen to believe that we can do it. In another crisis&#8211;the one in 1942&#8211;President Franklin D. Roosevelt said this country would build 60,000 [50,000] military aircraft. By 1943, production in that program had reached 125,000 aircraft annually. They did it then. We can do it now.<br />
The American people resilience and determination to retain the way of life is unconquerable and we as a nation will succeed in this endeavor of Energy Independence.</p>
<p>Solar energy is the source of all energy on the earth (excepting volcanic geothermal). Wind, wave and fossil fuels all get their energy from the sun. Fossil fuels are only a battery which will eventually run out. The sooner we can exploit all forms of Solar energy (cost effectively or not against dubiously cheap FFs) the better off we will all be. If the battery runs out first, the survivors will all be living like in the 18th century again.</p>
<p>Every new home built should come with a solar package. A 1.5 kW per bedroom is a good rule of thumb. The formula 1.5 X&#8217;s 5 hrs per day X&#8217;s 30 days will produce about 225 kWh per bedroom monthly. This peak production period will offset 17 to 2</p>
<p>4 cents per kWh with a potential of $160 per month or about $60,000 over the 30-year mortgage period for a three-bedroom home. It is economically feasible at the current energy price and the interest portion of the loan is deductible. Why not?</p>
<p>Title 24 has been mandated forcing developers to build energy efficient homes. Their bull-headedness put them in that position and now they see that Title 24 works with little added cost. Solar should also be mandated and if the developer designs a home that solar is impossible to do then they should pay an equivalent mitigation fee allowing others to put solar on in place of their negligence. (Installation should be paid â€œperformance basedâ€)</p>
<p>Installation of renewable energy and its performance should be paid to the installer and manufacturer based on &#8220;performance based&#8221; (that means they are held accountable for the performance of the product &#8211; that includes the automobile industry). This will gain the trust and confidence of the end-user to proceed with such a project; it will also prove to the public that it is a viable avenue of energy conservation.</p>
<p>Installing renewable energy system on your home or business increases the value of the property and provides a marketing advantage.</p>
<p>Nations of the world should unite and join together in a cohesive effort to develop and implement MANDATORY RENEWABLE ENERGY for the sake of humankind and future generations.</p>
<p>Jay Draiman<br />
Northridge, CA 91325<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:renewableenergy2@msn.com">renewableenergy2@msn.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676861', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: theswan</title>
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		<dc:creator>theswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> there was no debate.</description>
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		<title>By: nofltwlt</title>
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		<dc:creator>nofltwlt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My take on this is that Gates and Pace were sent out there to assuage congress with their comments, this prolonging the debate.  If the debate continues, nothing is mandated and the WH will continue to move troops and carriers into harms way.

These people are so evil.  They must be stopped before it is to late for you and me.  George Bush is much more dangerous to the security of Americans and our nation than all of the terrorists combined.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on this is that Gates and Pace were sent out there to assuage congress with their comments, this prolonging the debate.  If the debate continues, nothing is mandated and the WH will continue to move troops and carriers into harms way.</p>
<p>These people are so evil.  They must be stopped before it is to late for you and me.  George Bush is much more dangerous to the security of Americans and our nation than all of the terrorists combined.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676651', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ObviousToMe</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676439</link>
		<dc:creator>ObviousToMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Discussing the futility of a failed strategy and the support of our troops are two &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;mutually exclusive &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;concepts.

Why is that so difficult for people to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussing the futility of a failed strategy and the support of our troops are two <em><strong>mutually exclusive </strong></em>concepts.</p>
<p>Why is that so difficult for people to understand?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676439', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uncle_Ho</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676421</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle_Ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El T.; I would post it here if I could, but my computer skills are limited. I had go back to my pictures where I have it downloaded myself, cuz I forgot where I found it originally, but I can tell you where to find what you are looking for.  Google Texas chickenhawks AWOL division-it will take you to tribes and it&#039;s right there in front of you. And I really did send a pic of it to the white house by e-mail suggesting that it replace the traditional presidential seal. So, I&#039;m sure that I&#039;m on the Bush/Cheney enemies list, and being watched by the FBI, CIA, NSA, ONI, SS, Pentagon, etc for my taunts, insults antiwar activities/protests, etc. to which I quote &quot;BRING IT ON!!!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El T.; I would post it here if I could, but my computer skills are limited. I had go back to my pictures where I have it downloaded myself, cuz I forgot where I found it originally, but I can tell you where to find what you are looking for.  Google Texas chickenhawks AWOL division-it will take you to tribes and it&#8217;s right there in front of you. And I really did send a pic of it to the white house by e-mail suggesting that it replace the traditional presidential seal. So, I&#8217;m sure that I&#8217;m on the Bush/Cheney enemies list, and being watched by the FBI, CIA, NSA, ONI, SS, Pentagon, etc for my taunts, insults antiwar activities/protests, etc. to which I quote &#8220;BRING IT ON!!!!&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676421', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: me to me</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676373</link>
		<dc:creator>me to me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 12:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first of all, we DO support troops, MUCH more then the administration or ANYONE who thinks going against the generals advices and bringing escalation is a good idea

and second of all, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE MISSION, becuase the mission changes every 20 minutes

our troops COMPLETED the mission  A LONG TIME AGO,  were sent to depose saddam, they were sent to find out if therer were wmd&#039;s, AND THAT IS IT

they are NOYT a free Iraqi police force, they are NOT espcrts, they are NOT builders of schools, they are NOT an occupying force

what&#039;s left is POLITICAL, it is NOT military

and ANYONE that thinks keeping our troops doing politician&#039;s work are the people that are not supporting our troops</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first of all, we DO support troops, MUCH more then the administration or ANYONE who thinks going against the generals advices and bringing escalation is a good idea</p>
<p>and second of all, WE DO NOT SUPPORT THE MISSION, becuase the mission changes every 20 minutes</p>
<p>our troops COMPLETED the mission  A LONG TIME AGO,  were sent to depose saddam, they were sent to find out if therer were wmd&#8217;s, AND THAT IS IT</p>
<p>they are NOYT a free Iraqi police force, they are NOT espcrts, they are NOT builders of schools, they are NOT an occupying force</p>
<p>what&#8217;s left is POLITICAL, it is NOT military</p>
<p>and ANYONE that thinks keeping our troops doing politician&#8217;s work are the people that are not supporting our troops<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676373', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: El Tonno</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676047</link>
		<dc:creator>El Tonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;
clyde; ** snort** You should e-mail it to the white house, you can be on their shit-list just like me. I sent them one suggesting that the presidential seal be replace with the one of the flying chickenhawks-1st AWOL division.

Comment by Uncle_Ho
&lt;/i&gt;

Where can I download that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><br />
clyde; ** snort** You should e-mail it to the white house, you can be on their shit-list just like me. I sent them one suggesting that the presidential seal be replace with the one of the flying chickenhawks-1st AWOL division.</p>
<p>Comment by Uncle_Ho<br />
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<p>Where can I download that?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676047', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Comment Deleted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comment Deleted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment Deleted<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676043', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: El Tonno</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1676036</link>
		<dc:creator>El Tonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 11:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment by rachel &quot; the saint &quot; santo patricia halbert Got Elvis? &lt;/i&gt;

&gt; Don`t go anywhere I wouldn`t. I will own your computer as I already do most TP posters.
&gt; Free access to all computers that you posters operate is my lifes goal.

Either &quot;6-year old clueless in need of spanking&quot; or else  &quot;grown-up clueless with an inferiority complex&quot;. Tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment by rachel &#8221; the saint &#8221; santo patricia halbert Got Elvis? </i></p>
<p>&gt; Don`t go anywhere I wouldn`t. I will own your computer as I already do most TP posters.<br />
&gt; Free access to all computers that you posters operate is my lifes goal.</p>
<p>Either &#8220;6-year old clueless in need of spanking&#8221; or else  &#8220;grown-up clueless with an inferiority complex&#8221;. Tiresome.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1676036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: BK</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1675614</link>
		<dc:creator>BK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say what you will. Gates is a breath of fresh air,
compared to the former holder of his office. The
man actually pushed back on Lindsey Grahams
play on words in the hearings just held. So much
so it came as a shock. He certainly refused to 
have words put in his mouth at any and every turn.
Give the man credit when its due. He isn&#039;t painting
any false picture for anyone in the hearings, and
its clear he has his doubts about the direction
things are moving in Iraq, and the Middle East in
general. Very different from the total Lockstep
we have been fed up till now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say what you will. Gates is a breath of fresh air,<br />
compared to the former holder of his office. The<br />
man actually pushed back on Lindsey Grahams<br />
play on words in the hearings just held. So much<br />
so it came as a shock. He certainly refused to<br />
have words put in his mouth at any and every turn.<br />
Give the man credit when its due. He isn&#8217;t painting<br />
any false picture for anyone in the hearings, and<br />
its clear he has his doubts about the direction<br />
things are moving in Iraq, and the Middle East in<br />
general. Very different from the total Lockstep<br />
we have been fed up till now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1675614', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jay Randal</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/07/gates-pace-troops/comment-page-1/#comment-1675448</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Randal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2007 09:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see that SEIXON is back on TP threads again. I guess Karl Rove is  getting desperate to have hired the Norwegian again &gt; lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that SEIXON is back on TP threads again. I guess Karl Rove is  getting desperate to have hired the Norwegian again &gt; lol.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1675448', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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