Norquist: Bush’s Advisers Telling Him ‘Invade Iran. Then Everyone Will See How Smart We Are’
Norquist: Bush’s Advisers Telling Him ‘Invade Iran. Then Everyone Will See How Smart We Are’
In this month’s issue of Vanity Fair, Craig Unger writes that the same neoconservative advisers who advocated for the Iraq war are now recycling the same tactics to push for the bombing of Iran. Unger reports that not all of Bush’s key conservative allies are pleased with the administration’s course on Iran:
“Everything the advocates of war said would happen hasn’t happened,” says the president of Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist, an influential conservative who backed the Iraq invasion. “And all the things the critics said would happen have happened. [The president’s neoconservative advisers] are effectively saying, ‘Invade Iran. Then everyone will see how smart we are.’ But after you’ve lost x number of times at the roulette wheel, do you double-down?”
For example, Richard Perle, a former Bush administration official, has said, “I have very little doubt” that Bush would order “necessary military action” against Iran. “Make no mistake, President Bush will need to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before leaving office,” wrote American Enterprise Institute analyst Joshua Muravchik.
Two other important points from the Unger article:
1) Retired Defense Intelligence official Patrick Lang told Unger that Bush has ordered StratCom — the military command responsible for “nuclear weapons, missile defense and protection against weapons of mass destruction” — to draw up plans for a “massive strike against Iran.” Lang noted that the shift away from Central Command “to StratCom indicates they are talking about a really punishing air-force and naval air attack [on Iran].”
2) Former CIA officer Philip Giraldi said, “I’ve heard from sources at the Pentagon that their impression is that the White House has made a decision that war is going to happen.”
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Everyone knows how stupid they are with the Iraq invasion - this would make us doubly stupid & ignorant!
February 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmwe already know how smart Bush is…
February 7th, 2007 at 5:12 pm….which is why we are so distraught……
” the White House has made a decision that war is going to happen.†This is a surprise? Are shocked that lil’ Georgie would make a brash and arrogant decision that is contrary to ALL the advice, right or left, that he has received? After all, he’s a rough, tough real man who takes risks ’cause that’s what they do in the movies. Yup.
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February 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmmore punishing that
February 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmSHOCK AND AWE?!?!?!?!
‘Invade Iran. Then Everyone Will See How Smart We Are’
The man couldn’t find oil in Texas…
He’s done nothing successful in his entire presidency of 6 years…
Iraq is a worse mess than it ever was under Saddam…
The National Deficit is in the trillions…
No healthcare, no social security solution, no educational achievements, no solution for Global Warming, and on and on and on…
It’s beyond the point of redemption.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmBush and his ilk are determined to make the world hate us beyond repair and make as much money for Halliburton before the investigations of the post Bush years. Congress and the Senate have to get going and rein these people in. Then the PEOPLE have to have massive and frequent demonstrations against this administration and its crimes against humanity.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pmHideous.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:17 pmI have always thought that war with Iran was largely hyperbole. Now, not so much.
I have always thought the blowback alone (ie Pakistani, Saudi revolution) was enough of a deterrent for this course of action. Now, not so much.
But WTF, we will all probably be dead from global warming in thirty years anyway.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:17 pmGrover is criticizing Bush? Wow.
You know what? All this is obvious.
The neocons are going to see how right the rest of us are when the US attacks Iran and we end up chimpeaching.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pmAre we going to sit and wait for stupid to make his move? We need to pressure Congress to get on the stick and sabotage this adminstration’s plans. I am often writting to my Congressmen/women and I hope everyone else is, too. The reality is becoming increasingly dangerous and stark. It’s becoming a frigging free for all and has just got to come to a stop.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:19 pmHow…
S tupid
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A gainst
R eason &
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… we are.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmDon’t go away mad Nortwit - just go away disillusioned.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:20 pmBrzezinski on the possibility of a false flag attack to get the Iran attack going:
http://prisonplanet.com/ articles/ february2007/ 060207falseflag.htm
The neocons aren’t Nazis btw, they’re basically Trotskyites.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:21 pm“But WTF, we will all probably be dead from global warming in thirty years anyway.”
Panic much? The consensus average estimate is less than 2 degrees centigrade over a century IIRC. Hardly apocalyptical.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pmThis only confirms what Sy Hersch has been writing about in The New Yorker. This White House and their republican stooges on the Hill would love to to see this happen.
Call or write your elected official in your state and tell them that if they give consent or support to the assclown in the White House that they will be out on their ass in the next election.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pmI wonder why Pres. Bush is working to keep the hard-liners in Iran in power?
Iran has publicly said that they benefit if the US attacks Iran, because then the citizens that are losing faith in the current hard-liners would be supported because “everyone supports the leaders in a crisis”.
I guess Pres. Bush just doesn’t care if he keeps fundamentalist anti-American leaders in power. Pres. Bush just wants more war, based on his misguided actions.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pmPENAC and the rest of these Neocon fools just cannot, even for a moment, look at what they’ve done and see mistakes.
“But after you’ve lost x number of times at the roulette wheel, do you double-down?†I don’t like the roulette analogy because, at a game of roulette, you have a chance to be right on each spin. The Neocons’ game plan is more akin to sticking your head into a deep fat fryer. After you’ve done it a dozen times and have come out screaming, do you really think you should stick your now-scabby head in once more to bob for that elusive french fry?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pmI don’t read the quacky Prison Planet, but that seems like a good article. I read it. Yup, here we go. It’s for our own good and we just don’t know it. We need to have control of the world’s energy supplies so we can keep drivin’ big rigs, and buy lots more stuff.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:25 pmNeocons are grasping at the last straws here folks, its all they have left.
Comment by ForTruth — February 7, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
I read somewhere that when a group or ideology finds itself on the verge of oblivion or extinction, that it will resort to desperate measures. And that in the 1970’s, when the majority of people were rejecting traditional forms of organized religion, the Fundamentalists emerged in an attempt to ’save’ themselves from deletion…
Seems the neocons are definitely on the same sort of warpath… We’re in trouble. They’d sooner die than admit defeat or accept their own fallability…
February 7th, 2007 at 5:28 pmNow Bush will blame anyone for invading Iraq. This only shows just how incompetent he really is. Now are Americans to believe that Bush had nothing to do with all these lies and mistakes. Just as weak as he was when he was scared to serve in the military. Bush is waiting for Daddy to get him out of this like Daddy has done all his life.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmAlright, my post disappeared.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmSeems the neocons are definitely on the same sort of warpath… We’re in trouble. They’d sooner die than admit defeat or accept their own fallability…
Comment by unbelievable
Seems you were able to save a piece of my deleted post.
I agree, these morons would rather die than admit defeat.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:31 pmGee, what a surprise. Could PNAC and Billy Kristol have been far behind?
Btw, has anyone been paying attention to the Federal Air Marshal Service, particularly the one in Las Vegas? They’re putting innocent people on international terrorist databases just to make quota each month if they even so much as take a picture on a plane. However, if you’re a Middle Easterner trying to blend in with Mexican immigrants, they’re told to ignore you. Who Cares if Passenger 57 is Speaking Spanish With a Middle Eastern Accent?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pmMine, too. I was simply saying that George, Sr. should hire a spooky-hit to take out a monkey. That’s all.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:33 pm#5. Your point is taken. But, the national debt is approximately $8.669T. The 2006 “on budget” deficit is $434B. The total budget deficit reported by the media for 2006 is $248B.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:34 pmAlright, my post disappeared.
Comment by ForTruth — February 7, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
I saw that… Part of it is in my post. Well, unless that one disappears too.
I just had one disappear a few minutes ago from another thread. Must be another one of those technology black hole days…
February 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm“Then everyone will see how smart we are.”
February 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pm(sigh)
It’s just too easy…
Dumb asses bushco. They really do think that their shit smells like roses.
They won’t be happy till armageddon does arrive.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:37 pmhey, my posts are either disappearing or getting cut off. WTF?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI don’t know how Bush thinks attacking Iran is a good idea … the way things are, they would kick our ass … I don’t even think we have the military capability to put down a rebellion at home since we’ve drained all our military resources in Iraq.
And on top of that, are not China and Russia buddy buddy with Iran? Do we really want to have a confrontation with those sleeping giants?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:41 pm#30 Uncle_Ho
looks like the proletariat needs to dust off their pitchforks and torches.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmThe total budget deficit reported by the media for 2006 is $248B.
Comment by Jeffrey Stewart — February 7, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Being a visual imager, I sometimes interchange words that are similar. It’s a side effect that comes from translating pictures into language, because letters and numbers are devoid of meaning for me. I often say hundreds when I mean thousands, and things like that…
February 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmHell yeah! Bring ‘em on! Only two short years left to screw the working class and enrich Lockheed, KBR, and Exxon. Our so-called ‘allies’ (not to mention 65% of our citizens) just can’t appreciate how visionary the Bush Doctrine is in the post 9/11 world.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:42 pmI see two scenarios -indepdndently or coordinated:
February 7th, 2007 at 5:43 pmBush will provoke an attack from the Persian Gulf.
Israel will provoke an attack if they don’t attack first directly.
In either case, Bush will be there. He thinks he has all the powers of a king - The Senate still acts as if he were king, despite his failing popularity. The Dems wil have to wrest control over the stubborn Republicans and act like the adults in this playground.
This is no game - but Bush seems to treat it like one.
Time for a different kind of preemptive strike! Congress MUST authorize NO MONEY and NO ENDORSEMENT for an attack on IRAN. Do it now, before Bush starts World War III.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pmBush and his admin and advisors are like a bad comedy movie. They are the frat boys who think the only way to redeem themselves after their crazy scheme fails is to come up with an even crazier scheme!
February 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pmNow I understand the reasoning behind the “surge”. Those extra troops will come in handy after Bush conducts Texas style diplomacy with Iran from 30,000 feet. I can’t believe Gates would sign off on something like yhis. Who the hell is the voice of reason among theses people?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:45 pmlooks like the proletariat needs to dust off their pitchforks and torches.
Comment by AshenShard — February 7, 2007 @ 5:42 pm
Karl Marx would be proud! :)
February 7th, 2007 at 5:46 pmWow, the insanity of it. I wonder, how could an administration that consistently treats the constitution as a set of guidelines rather than all but immutable law, ignores what the people want, have two wars we can’t afford, how could they make such a stupid move?
This is madness, I used to feel safe in this country, but if we do this I’m fairly sure the terrorists WILL attack. If this crap had happened thirty or forty years ago, they’d be gone! GWB, Cheney, Rove, all of them. They wouldn’t have taken the White House a second time. Why, for the love of God do they keep doing it? You can say “They just want to make money”, but seriously, they’d make more money if they just cut their loses and left Iraq, and they could have made more money from the start if they invaded Iraq properly and stole their oil like honest republicans.
My question is; what the hell is the 2008 election going to look like? My God, will there even be an election? I’m starting to wonder, and the fact that I need to is un-American. GWB has done all the other illegal sh*t before, he’s even stolen an election (maybe two). No one said it’s above him to call off the elections indefinitely because of some fictitious terrorist plot.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:46 pmI think all the comments advocating anarchy, beheading, murder, death, extinction and revolt are being deleted. How come? It’s not like we’re bad people… just a little upset. That’s all. STORM THE CASTLE! KILL THE MONSTER! FIRE… GOOODDD!
February 7th, 2007 at 5:49 pmImpeach now.
Who is that idiot talking about global warming on this thread? Oh, never mind, a brainless koolaid drunk troll.
I had two posts on another thread today that took a pathologically long time to appear, after which they both disappeared, then reappeared, then disappeared. Who knows?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmAnyone know where I can get one of those really cool Guy Fawkes masks?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:53 pm(Like in the movie V for Vendetta)
Hey, where is Seixxon? He should be here telling us the Grover Norquist is brainwashing us to hate Bush.
Oh, Seixxon? Ohhh Seixxonnnn? Where are you?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmThere was an article in CNN today about a massive hacker attack on the internets. Maybe this is the reason for disappearing posts. Whether the rigth wing blogs are affected as well remains to be seen. I don’t go there.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmCan the Congress send notice to the Naval and Air commanders to ignore orders to attack?
February 7th, 2007 at 5:56 pmThey are the constitutional entity that has the power to declare war.
Only the congress.
If they publicly notified the theater commanders that the president will be impeached if he gives the order, and anyone who obeys it will never be promoted again in their military careers, would that prevent a unilateral attack????
If not, then what would? anybody?
#36 Badger
I am with you Bud! My preemptive strike would be impeachment and get rid of ALL the trash. The fines alone from all the crooks in bushco could balance the Democrats budget for the next 18 years (Pelosi 2007-2008, Clinton 2008-2016, Obama 2016-2024 +/- a year or so as I am too lazy to be exact)). The assets confiscated under the RICO act including OPEGC (Big Oil, Pharms, Energy, Government Contractors) would retire the National Debt. We could save a lot more money by sending the bushco to GITMO instead of Leavenworth and then giving GITMO back to Fidel to run.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pmI think all the comments advocating anarchy, beheading, murder, death, extinction and revolt are being deleted. How come?
Comment by Liberal in New Mexico — February 7, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
They (suggestions of violence) are seen as an even bigger no-no than namejacking, flaming, and posting text in the form of a mouse with an e r e c t i o n…
You aren’t a regular until you’ve had comments deleted for mild forms of this :D
February 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pm#41 LNM - You bring pitchfork, me bring torch!
February 7th, 2007 at 5:57 pmIf people think Iraq is a mess, we haven’t seen anything compared to the kind of mess this would cause. Iran has the potential to fight back hard, and it won’t just be limited to the other side of the globe where none of us has to see it firsthand either. It will be REALLY REALLY nasty.
February 7th, 2007 at 5:58 pmOh, Seixxon? Ohhh Seixxonnnn? Where are you?
Comment by VerbalKint — February 7, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
You can probably find him on his own blog bitching about being banned from DailyKos and TP for spamming (though he says it is for his opposing point of view)…
February 7th, 2007 at 5:59 pmThere was an article in CNN today about a massive hacker attack on the internets. Maybe this is the reason for disappearing posts.
Nope, it looks like a local problem.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:01 pmOh, and Seixxon, Tim Russert just contradicted Libby’s story in his testimony today.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:01 pmIt is quite obvious that somewhere in the Heart of Texas there is a bunker big enough to hold all of bushco and deep enough to weather a bunch of big boomers. Perhaps Daddy Bush’s holdover from the ’50’s?
In the movie Field of Dreams it was said “Build it and they will come.”
February 7th, 2007 at 6:03 pmIn the nightmare Blunder of Bush it will be said “They weren’t supposed to come here.”
Apprears KBR’s concentration camps will not sit idle after all. Isn’t Fascism grand?
February 7th, 2007 at 6:04 pmSomebody wrote this - maybe here - anyway it’s what came to mind reading this:
Men are from Mars, women are from Venus, neo-cons are from Uranus.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:05 pmWhat? MY anus? No, no no… Must be George’s anus.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:10 pm#48 Unbelievable
That “God-damned piece of paper” that DUHbya fouls every chance he gets says you and I cannot advocate great bodily harm to the useless SOB. We can kick him out, slap his face, slander his name all over the place, but Uh Huh Honey, stay off his blue, suede (I apologize Elvis and Carl) life. Put him away but do not advocate a violent overthrow and abdication of King George the Dumb.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:12 pmSend his advisors first.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:14 pm#48- Maybe we can send him a case of scotch, an ounce of crack and a five pound bag of pretzels and let him kill himself.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:19 pmfrom L. ad- “to” + visum, neut. pp. of videre “to see” (see vision).
February 7th, 2007 at 6:24 pmWhy does the chymp take advice from the same jackanapes that brought us the stunning success that is Iraq?
Is he not capable of “seeing”?
#61, I’ll pitch in if it’s a truckload of scotch, a kilo of crack and a Mongo candygram…
February 7th, 2007 at 6:26 pmour goal, as it were, is to reduce Norquist to the size where he can be drowned in a bathtub
February 7th, 2007 at 6:28 pm#62- Well… alrighty, then! (But, we REALLY need the pretzels!)
February 7th, 2007 at 6:33 pm#64, LNM - got a Costco near? I think they carry 25 # drums of pretzels with lots of salt…
February 7th, 2007 at 6:40 pmThe consensus average estimate is less than 2 degrees centigrade over a century IIRC. Hardly apocalyptical.
Comment by Random Rightie — February 7, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
It doesn’t sound like much, but in fact it is pretty apocalyptical. And the latest consensus average estimate is considerably higher than that.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:41 pmHey Raven, I know your probably kidding but if you really want a Guy Fawkes mask, here you go:
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=RU4418
But seriously, the neocons need to be stopped. Congress needs to start the impeachment of Bush before he carries out their insane agenda.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:43 pmHow about a pound of Humbolt weed, and all the White Castles he can eat?
February 7th, 2007 at 6:43 pmLaura needs to save our great nation and take out stupid POTUS and VPOTUS at the next luncheon. Use the salad fork, Laura!!
February 7th, 2007 at 6:47 pm68 - no f’ing way - he can have all the cheap liquor, crack, crank, and pretzels (and hiv+ manwhores), but i can’t condone wasting valuable resources, no matter how important the mission.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:48 pmRU; I prefer claymores and frags. Call in an airstrike on the WH- drop snake & nape.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:53 pm“I love the smell of napalm in the morning”.
February 7th, 2007 at 6:57 pmGood Morning PERSIA . . .
Boys and girls remember . . . when you hear the air raid siren that means . . .
DUCK AND COVER!!!
And if you have a radiation suit in your backpack, swell! Put it on!
February 7th, 2007 at 6:58 pmOh yeah, f-cking brilliant.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:00 pmWith Bush being the Decider and all, I wonder if the human race will survive. What a fool.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:05 pmwatch this video of Iran: http://lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html
Send it to your friends.
Iran is NOT what the hate mongers want you to believe.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:12 pm#44: Patrick Lang, Sam Gardiner, and Philip Giraldi have all been the major sources behind every single story about plans about bombing Iran. Oh, just might want to mention that all of them are connected to Larry Johnson’s Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. What a coincidence.
#51: I have never been banned by TP nor DailyKos. DailyKos commenters down-rated every single comment I made and if this is done enough, your posting privileges are revoked. Thus, I still have an account, but I cannot post anything. This was also attempted at TPMCafe, but a brave moderator saw what was going on and put my comments back.
#53: Of course he did, that’s the entire basis of Fitzgerald’s indictment. But did Russert tell the truth? David Gregory and Andrea Mitchell know.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:13 pmDon’t make Bush go to extremes before we take action and let him know that the budget he is using on war is our money, and needs to go toward the things we support- like the Millennium Development Goals for example! We have to hold him accountable to our goals!
February 7th, 2007 at 7:13 pmAddendum: So now you guys believe every word Grover Norquist says? How precious is that? LOL!
February 7th, 2007 at 7:14 pmBush has taken over the United States!
February 7th, 2007 at 7:18 pmHe as destroyed the U.S. Constitution!
Bush will take over the World!
He has looted the U.S. Treasury!
He will have enough for a private army, and forced military labor camps!
Bush also has the Nukes, and WILL use them.
Bush is not living in a Bubble….We are!
We live in a bubble thinking our Governmental leaders will save us from Bush, and make everything all right.
Your watching a puppet show in the Congress and the Senate.
They sold us out.
Get out of your “God Bless America” Bubble….The Republic has been taken over, and is gone!
Impeach as soon as order is given. We should begin with gonzales and work up. send rummy to the Hague for trial.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:19 pmWill we awaken too late?
February 7th, 2007 at 7:19 pmWho’s running this show?
You happy?
Time to think about your alternatives?
Look up, or straight down?
If they bomb Iran, rumors are gas will be $10 per gallon. That will reallly screw the economy. How do you prepare for that? Everything will stop.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:22 pmwhere are the democrats?
February 7th, 2007 at 7:29 pmThere was an article in CNN today about a massive hacker attack on the internets. Maybe this is the reason for disappearing posts. Whether the rigth wing blogs are affected as well remains to be seen. I don’t go there.
Comment by doro — February 7, 2007 @ 5:56 pm
This may be true. I heard that the attack was on servers that handle .org websites. Something like 6 of 13 huge computers were attacked. Although TP has had problems with posts disappearing for a while so I doubt that the attacks are a cause here at TP.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:33 pm“Everything the advocates of war said would happen hasn’t happened,†“And all the things the critics said would happen have happened.”
February 7th, 2007 at 7:39 pmYes sir, Mr. Norquist that, for once, from your mouth, is the truth. But it is way too little too late.
#44: Patrick Lang, Sam Gardiner, and Philip Giraldi have all been the major sources behind every single story about plans about bombing Iran. Oh, just might want to mention that all of them are connected to Larry Johnson’s Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity. What a coincidence.
“Make no mistake, President Bush will need to bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities before leaving office,†wrote American Enterprise Institute analyst Joshua Muravchik.
You forgot this AEI analcyst Seixon.
Back to your same misleading ways I see.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI think that what Grover meant to say was Bush’s Advisers Tell Bush To Invade Iran, Then Everyone Will See How STUPID We Are! I don’t think that I could be in the same room with Norquist without being extremely tempted to bitchslap that warmongering chickenhawk! He and Cheney, both afraid of their own shadows, are probably joined at the hip.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:48 pmI’m contacting my representatives and asking them what I should do to protect myself from the economic disaster when Bush invades Iraq. I live in Texas and all my representatives have their noses deeply inserted in the President’s posterior.
I will be curious to hear what advice they have to give.
Buy duct tape?
February 7th, 2007 at 7:48 pmHoard gasoline?
Grow your own vegetables
Sell apples on the corner
seixon, you cutie - i’ve never believed anything norquist has said, but i do believe pres. dipstick and his puppetmasters are going to try something incredible stupid and completely, strategically wrongheaded in Iran. if bathtub drownings are what is required to avert disaster, then so be it.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:51 pmhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2006/ 04/ 14/ AR2006041401907_pf.html
February 7th, 2007 at 7:52 pmIt’s important to talk about war planning that’s real. And it is for Iran. In early 2003, even as U.S. forces were on the brink of war with Iraq, the Army had already begun conducting an analysis for a full-scale war with Iran. The analysis, called TIRANNT, for “theater Iran near term,” was coupled with a mock scenario for a Marine Corps invasion and a simulation of the Iranian missile force. U.S. and British planners conducted a Caspian Sea war game around the same time. And Bush directed the U.S. Strategic Command to draw up a global strike war plan for an attack against Iranian weapons of mass destruction.
So now you guys believe every word Grover Norquist says? How precious is that? LOL!
Comment by Seixon
Actually Grover doesn’t even believe every word he says therefore it would be impossible to believe what Nortwit says.
How gullible were you to believe him eh?
February 7th, 2007 at 7:55 pmCan you envision a scenario where gasoline goes to $10 per gallon, as rumored, if Bush nukes IRan and Iran retaliates.
Most highway traffic would cease, obviously. Airplane flight would be out of the question. Businesses would turn to working over the internet, but electricity prices would skyrocket too since gasoline is used to power many generators.
Supermarket deliveries would grind to a halt. Import/export of goods would stop.
February 7th, 2007 at 7:59 pmThe number of Norwegians studying in the US has been reduced by 50 per cent over the last 10 years.
Thank God
http://www.norwaypost.no/
Soldiers from the Norwegian Home Guard may in future be participating in international missions.
Hey Seixon go serve ya lazy hack.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:00 pmtom baker,
I’m sorry I’m not convinced by this VIPS propaganda operation, but these same people have been suggesting an attack on Iran was imminent for 2 years now. At what point do you guys get a clue and realize that you’re being had?
February 7th, 2007 at 8:01 pmA shortage of health workers has led temporary staff agency Adecco to consider importing labour from countries like South Korea and the Philippines. The Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation (Norad) is critical.
Heh. Seixon maybe you can find you a Korean wife.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:02 pmFormer Vice President Al Gore was nominated for the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize for his wide-reaching efforts to draw the world’s attention to the dangers of global warming, a Norwegian lawmaker said Thursday
How Precious!!
February 7th, 2007 at 8:05 pmIn early 2003, even as U.S. forces were on the brink of war with Iraq, the Army had already begun conducting an analysis for a full-scale war with Iran. The analysis, called TIRANNT, for “theater Iran near term,”
Seixon you aint telling us anything new.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:07 pmI’m sorry I’m not convinced by this VIPS propaganda operation,
Wha?? Your wanting to grow up and be a pundit right?
February 7th, 2007 at 8:09 pmI really appreciated all the facts given in this article - It seems as though we have already proven to the world how powerful we can be… wouldn’t it be the “smartest” to use our power for constructive change, rather than more powerful violence? Hopefully articles like Unger’s in popular publications like Vanity Fair will help circulate the truth. Thank you Think Progress for your balanced and interesting analysis of this subject - I really enjoy your writing.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:11 pmIvade with what?
February 7th, 2007 at 8:20 pmHopefully the people will get the opportunity to try and properly dispense justice to…
…all of the degenerate gamblers in the White House, Congress, and Repulsivescum echo chambers…
February 7th, 2007 at 8:37 pmPeople,
It’s WAY past time for talk about the Democrat Congress having any moderating effect. Bush will do what he will do and that’s that. Once a false flag operation or otherwise is conducted, the resulting pressure on the Democrats will be so intense that they will side with the war hawks, just as they did post 9/11.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:39 pmI’m telling you NOW, it’s time for a GENERAL STRIKE nationwide. This is not a labor strike and does not have to be sanctioned by the corporate world. This is THE grassroots action that CAN and WILL work to STOP the MADNESS NOW. In France, the truck drivers stop ALL COMMERCE nationwide by creating NATIONWIDE ROADBLOCKS. It’s effective. They get what they demand.
Bush’s key advice to America after 9/11 was ‘Go Shopping’. If we want to fight the Bush Policies, we must STOP THE WHEELS OF COMMERCE. This corrupt American domestic and foreign policy is being driven by CORPORATE INFLUENCE. If you want to influence it you must INFLUENCE THE CORPORATIONS.
It’s WAY PAST TIME for diplomatic and legislative solutions. Our democracy is broken. If it were not broken, we would not be in Iraq right now. It’s TIME FOR RASH EFFECTIVE PERSUASIVE ACTION, in the form of PUNISHING GENERAL STRIKES until THE PEOPLE attain for ourselves what is in our best interest.
This is the last and only chance for rapid change of course. If Bush goes Nuclear with an unprecedented aggressive attack on Iran, the type of chaos that we see on television from the streets of Iraq, will soon visit us right here at home. The breathtaking idiots spun Iraq into a cesspool of violence and unpredictibility. An attack on Iran, especially an nuclear one, will truely open the gates of hell and none of us can know the depths of agony we and millions of others will experience.
Sorry if this is off-topic, but why is Buzzflash linking to this thread using the following headline:
Bush’s Presses for Armageddon Nuking of Iran. Some in Pentagon Say Decision is Already Set in Stone.
A little over the top, don’t you think?
February 7th, 2007 at 8:40 pmWow. The war crimes trial in the Hague for these people will have more defendants than Nuremberg. BTW The neocons may be Trotskyites, but the Bush Crime Family are definitely Nazis, pure and true.
February 7th, 2007 at 8:43 pmbeing had? by whom? General Dynamics??
what a hoot!!
February 7th, 2007 at 8:52 pmLook, whaddarya whinin’ about? If the Good Lord Jesus, praise be unto his Mighty SUV of Vengeance, is not considerate enough to get the apocalypse rolling on St. George’s watch, then gosh-dern-gol-dangit the boy’s a’gonna have to take matters into his own hands. Yankees calls it “swaggerin’,” but he calls it “walkin’!”
St. George, all hail his Mighty Codpiece of Victory, knows he ‘n’ his’n is a’goin’ thru them Pearly Gates to sit at the Right Hand of Our Lord ‘n’ Savior, praise Him and His Minuteman III of Justice.
By Golly if’n he don’t already got the bumper sticker on Air Force I, God bless its Mighty Pratt & Whitneys of Thunder: “Warning: In Case of Passion This Airborne Command Post Will be Unmanned.”
So come to the Lord now, ye Heathen, God Smite the Secular Progressives a Mighty Blow, because “before it’s too late” means “in the next 12 months” — Praise the Lord (and pass the highly enriched uranium).
February 7th, 2007 at 9:17 pmTP? Could you do something with this posters name?
ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
It is mischaracterizing someone elses name in a bad light.
Your attention to this matter is greatly appreciated.
ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus needs to be BANNED!
February 7th, 2007 at 9:31 pmAll of which indicates that Impeachment nust be on the table and threatened at every juncture of decision making in this Administration. If you do this: impeachment. If you do that: impeachment. The sword of Damocles must be held over their heads and decapitation must be the threat. Democrats had better grow some balls or this administration will continue to violate every law as they march in Fascist goose-step towards Martial Law and a Dictatorship - was it not GWBush who said “it would be much easier if it were a Dictatorship, especially if I were the Dictator”?
February 7th, 2007 at 9:41 pmWe are at the threshold beyond which there is no return. Progessives and stalwarts of the Left had better get over the fact that at some point - and perhaps sooner than we think - revolution at the point of a gun is going to be necessary. Gun laws are now in our favor and we need to educate the right that this administration is as much a threat to them, as it is to us. Arm and defend the Constitution. Prepare for war!
Have no fear, my children. God is on the neoconservatives side.
He willed the Colts to win the Super Bowl!
February 7th, 2007 at 9:50 pmThe Double Trifecta
Prior to our engaging Iraq, there was a trifecta favoring a war with Iran: the mullahs in charge there, their position on our regime change list as a member of the axis of evil, and Iran’s refusal to stand down on uranium enrichment.
With the emerging of the Iraq quagmire, the probability of war with Iran became favored by the double trifecta: the preceding plus their interfering with our Iraq project, a US president who needs a wider war to shield his Iraq failure, and as payback to Iran for being the grande beneficiary of that failure.
jon
February 7th, 2007 at 10:02 pmConnecting the dots: From human behaviors to Ecosystem decline
http://StudentsForTheEarth.org
i agree with General Strike. there are only two things Bush understands: weapons and money…
let’s try the money angle first.
obviously, the democrats are not going to do anything to stop this mad man.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:06 pm“‘Invade Iran. Then everyone will see how smart we are.’ ” Yeah shoot yourself in the face to prove your intelligence! LOL! It is so hard to believe that these people are actually running the country.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:09 pmI am a American tax payer. George Bush works for me and i want to FIRE him
February 7th, 2007 at 10:12 pmThe man couldn’t find oil in Texas…
He’s done nothing successful in his entire presidency of 6 years…
Iraq is a worse mess than it ever was under Saddam…
The National Deficit is in the trillions…
No healthcare, no social security solution, no educational achievements, no solution for Global Warming, and on and on and on…
It’s beyond the point of redemption.
Well said.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:25 pmNo one is talking about the elephant in the room. It is Israel and AIPAC and AJL and PNAC and Zionisism. They have their people strategically placed within the government (Perle, Wolfowitz, Chertoff, Lieberman,etc.) and have been planning a Lebanon, Iraq, Iranian, Syrian, et.al. take over of the entire middle east for domination of the oil and supposed protection of Israel. They don’t see what happened to Germany and Hitler, and history is doomed to repeat. Us lowly American Citizens can’t stop it, the Legislature won’t (they’ve sold out to Israel) but the world will not stand by and watch us blow it up and radiate it. Russia and China will be sure to put us in our box, because the world sees us as the real terrorists and see Cheney and Bush as Hitler like dictators. War III is already begun But NO ONE wants to talk about it or admit it. Sad.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIf one takes the really long view, one imagines that America approaches a point where we might learn something crucial about our character flaws, and learn to be better. But the way societies learn in durable ways usually requires that things really go to hell in a handbasket. Dubya seems hellbent to deliver the whole enchilada: Crippling debt, the elimination of the middle class, the end of Constitutional Law. And now this = Global Thermonuclear War.
A moderately sized nuclear war ( carried out on cities) will for some time, stir up enough particulate matter to offset global warming. So the really good news is that there are probably some cockroaches on a low-lying tropical atol who will benefit from Dubya’s policies.
Unless I am mistaken, it was not those cockroaches who put him in office.
February 7th, 2007 at 10:50 pmOne question…why doesn’t congress make a resolution that he can’t. I am sure that the republicans in congress would get on board this. And if he does something stupid all congress has to do is send in the national guard and goose step him and cheney out the door of the white house. Defying congress and the constitution is TREASON isn’t it.
February 7th, 2007 at 11:05 pmThey are actually going to invade Iran!?!?…
Former CIA officer Phillip Giraldi said, “I’ve heard from sources at the Pentagon that their impression is that the White House has made a decision that war is going to happen. 
February 7th, 2007 at 11:16 pmMarge, why would the republicans get onboard?
February 7th, 2007 at 11:26 pmand what good would another resolution do?
it might put them on record opposing the deed, but who will be around to read it after he nukes iran?
I do agree with #100 — a general strike or similar intense wake-up call, to break into the madmen’s nightmare. how does anyone get MobveOn. USA Today and 10000 other points of light to pick up on this ASAP
keep it up children we’ve got a ways to go yet …
February 7th, 2007 at 11:28 pmJust like they did with the Viet Nam War…the Johnson Administration created the ‘Gulf of Tonkin incident’ to throw the country full throttle, 250,000 troops and more into the ‘Viet Nam Conflict’…a ‘conflict’ that damaged America irreparably although Reagan, Bush, and Clinton tried to make war ‘okay again’.
Last night I dreamed that all of the airline companies and all owners of private jets flew to Iraq and brought all of our remaining ‘troops’ home! And they succeeded. It’s up to us.
February 7th, 2007 at 11:29 pmNo ones after the people of Iran. The U.S. is just trying to stop Iran, which already supplies weapons to U.S.’s enemies, from sharing its nuclear technology with countries, terrorist organizations rather, that are willing to use it against us.
February 7th, 2007 at 11:34 pmsorry guys,
Whatever horrors might befall the world from an invasion in Iran would pale in comparison with Iran getting The Bomb (and the atomic race it would set off in the region).
February 7th, 2007 at 11:41 pmHey..nothing THIS wrong..has ever been changed by, protesting or writing to your local (bought and sold) reprehensible in congress..(it) the insanity, will get alot worse, before it can get better..so,,downsize, liquidate and whatever you do, don’t let them take, what makes you…you……..separate and protect yourself..Resist, vaccinations and understand, the plan is to reduce the population..I’ve done the math. It’s a losing hand..Anyway you look at it……it’s all by design..all in the plan..Ofcourse, knowing that, doesn’t stop the anger and frustration….Don’t drive yourself crazy.. Try to bend with the times of change, however hard that is, and you will not break…After all: what good are you broken?..Know this: on 12/21/2012 the world as we know it will align itself to the center of the galaxcy..All of the planets and the sun, all lined up to the exact center of the universe..that is fact..and the great circle of life shall renew itself once more..as it has, for enons…and you, will have been just a small (but very important) contribution to the (oneness)..to which we all belong..All is, as it should be…..Sleep well….
February 7th, 2007 at 11:49 pmumm…would i be able to get to canada in time just in case? im really worried about this…even as a high schooler
February 7th, 2007 at 11:51 pmWhat I find really amazing is when Bush first proposed the war against Iraq, if ANYBODY had the nerve to suggest it was a bad idea or wrong or based on bad information they got burned and buried in EVERY forum, blog or newsgroup. Now the tide has changed, where are all the ra ra patriotic Americans that labeled us UN patriotic? Have you crawled back into the woodwork? Admitted you were wrong? or like Kerry changed your mind? For the first time in years one can be against the war and not get flamed. How many people have to die and where are the WMD or Ben Laden or the links to terrorism? What we need to do is attack everybody that doesn’t agree with us then we will be like, wait for it!… Terrorists.
February 7th, 2007 at 11:53 pmMaybe its time for a revolution (ala Guillotine like the french did)
February 8th, 2007 at 12:04 amI thought we were at war with Eurasia. Now we’re at war with East Asia?
February 8th, 2007 at 12:15 amike and myname,
i guess u dont believe in talk or negotiations.
(bush doesnt talk with people he talks at them)
intel says the iranians are a number of years away from being dangerous….in the meantime, there are other options besides nuking iranians.
(the radiation clouds would affect afghanistan, pakistan, and india, btw)
o yes! i nearly forgot, just as bushiepoo lost the midterm elections, so did the president of iran…if bush attacks he will only strengthen the hardliners and assure the silencing of all dissent in iran.
besides, if we bomb iran unprovoked, all bets are off…
February 8th, 2007 at 12:19 amany ’self-respecting’ islamist with a device in the usa will martyr himself to level one of our cities.
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February 8th, 2007 at 12:26 amGW has 2 years left in office, a low approval rating and nothing left to lose.
February 8th, 2007 at 12:33 amI would not doubt that if he can get around the people on the Hill he’ll go for it. Americans and particularly conservatives hold grudges for a very long time and none have forgotten the embarassment of 1979 when Iran stuck it too them. The world can’t really think any worse of you, especially if you market it right.
More politically effective for Bush, and far less expensive, would be to reach an agreement with Iran “just in time” to avoid war. They drop their nuclear program, and in return they get Iraq as a Shiite theocracy allied to Iran. Oh, wait, they already have that, don’t they? Saddam Hussein was Iran’s worst enemy in the world. Was Bush’s toppling of his regime a quid pro quo granted by Bush in advance of expected repayment by the ayatollahs, which would take the form of their “capitulating” to Bush’s demands at a moment best suited to Karl Rove’s political needs? Don’t laugh, because a similar quid pro quo happened before, involving many of the same players who run today’s White House. “Students” controlled by the Ayatollah Khomeini’s Iranian government held 52 US Embassy hostages just long enough to maximally embarass and help defeat Jimmy Carter in the 1980 presidential election, then dramatically released them at the moment of Ronald Reagan’s inauguration, and for this helpful manuever Khomeini was (rather obviously) repaid by shiploads of advanced American weapons covertly and ilegally sent to Iran by the Reagan/Bush I White House during the so-called Iran/Contra operation, the perpetrators of which were later pardoned by Dubya’s father, who is widely believed to have run the operation for Reagan out of his then-Vice Presidential office.
February 8th, 2007 at 12:36 amIs there anyone involved in this insane scheme who has any military experience at all?
We do not have enough troops for the occupation of Iraq. How could we possibly have enough to fight a large, organized Iranian army?
What worries me in the long term are two things:
How stigmatised the US will become if we carry out as massive an attack as has been speculated here.
How weak our country is growing by the day. What is a rising Chinese government official, who served in the military and whose son is in the military like any other Chinese man his age, to make of a country that would rather send vollunteers under contract on repeated tours of duty than start up a draft?
February 8th, 2007 at 12:44 amI just hope Iran isn’t bullshitting us and actually DOES have some nukes- or we are going to look like jackasses.
Also, there is a silver lining here. During the time we’ve spent inflaming the hell out of the region (coincidentally the length of time Bush has been in office) Iran has morphed from “least crazy Iran in decades” to the “Iran that is just like what we THOUGHT Iraq was”.
So if we attack Iran before Akmadenijad (or whatever) is tossed out by his people, then we are kinda getting the bad guy, sorry….EVIL DOER that Saddam really failed to live up to.
I mean sure, the 9/11 attack that got us off on all these fantastic adventures was launched with planes, not bombs and by stateless drifters, not Presidents of distant nations but…. you say toe-may-toe, I say to-ma-togh.
February 8th, 2007 at 12:51 amNot going to happen, at least in the next two years. Remember, Congress must approve military actions against sovereign nations, and that would be absurd given the current popularity of the Iraq war.
February 8th, 2007 at 1:02 amWelcome to totalitarianism.
February 8th, 2007 at 1:13 amHello ..
Well, i cant believe most of the comments are from American people since they are filled with such hatred feelings towards your president.
Though you cannot see it, but history is being made as we speak, and the world is already in a WW III route. though some left wingers all over the world believe that war can be stopped at any time. I AM TELLING YOU IT CANT ! . I have to things to say to you that will make you understand, First, I’m a Jew, a grandson to a holocaust survivor and to a partisan, from my mother’s side, my father’s family are from Morocco.
Israel has undergone about 7-8 wars in its 60 years of state. most of them were started by not one , but at least 3 Arab countries at the same time. The 6-days war, Yuk Kippur War, The liberation war(in which you can say almost all of the Arab countries took part, including, IRAQ, Lybia, and other countries which Israel has no border with.
War is not something you can stop before it happens .. You can tactic your way into a lower amount of casualties , .. But Your enemy will still be your enemy, and now you are facing the enemy which Israel has been facing for the last 60 to 120 years. The Muslims and the Arabs, most of this countries are States in which the regime is dictating the life of its citizens, most of them are rule by 1 to 12 people who cannot be replaced by any mean then a revolution .. some of this countries have gone at least 4 Armed revolutions in the past 70 years ( IRAQ, Egypt. Syria etc … ).
This countries and regime, along with their religion will not let you sleep until they have made their faith a ruler of the world … this is why so many people immigrate to your countries(Yours = USA , Europe Canada etc).
more specifically about Iran. Just like the Nazis in 1933 who said ” WE ARE GOING TO KILL ALL THE JEWS AND CONQUER ALL OF WORLD AND DO THAT AND THAT AND TAHT !”. Iran is saying to you very clearly now. “WE ARE GOING TO ATTACK ISRAEL WHEN WE CAN”. To justify that they are revoking the holocaust. The American people can stand now next to their troops and Government and support them in an historical fix, To prevent a second Jewish holocaust, Or you can demonstrate against attacking the only country which is an immediate treat to the world’s peace . IRAN .
Roy Harush
Email me if you have any questions at setteler@gmail.com
February 8th, 2007 at 1:59 amstop bitch here! WRITE YOUR CONGRESS
February 8th, 2007 at 2:21 amwrite the senators and house !
hand write your letters, it’l take you 5 minutes to find their address in google!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no one here cares what you say, TELL CONGRESS YOUR THOUGHTS
Most crooked, corrupt Evil President we ever elected. And the Evil man is voted Villain of the world by 25%, second is Bin Laden at 8% and Satan at 1%. He does not know how to solve any other problems. All he knows how to abuse young kids as canon fodder and US military hardware to kill as many people as he can in the name of GOD, while he did everything to get out of war himself….
February 8th, 2007 at 2:31 amlets ship the bush daughters off to war…this guy has no problems with shipping other peoples children off to war that was made all on false pretenses..
February 8th, 2007 at 2:38 amWe are approaching benevolent?? dictatorship!
Democrats must cut military funds. Allow only enough to pass to support withdrawal of our troups to safe ground. Apply the nuclear option against filibuster if absolutely necessary in response to the republicans attempt to block. Let the onus of our troups remaining in harm’s way be on the head of the man who can command them to withdraw.
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February 8th, 2007 at 2:57 am130. I mean sure, the 9/11 attack that got us off on all these fantastic adventures was launched with planes, not bombs and by stateless drifters, not Presidents of distant nations but….
Check this out, Danny:
http://www.truth911.net/
“OK, you’ve covered your ass …” - “President” GW Bush before 9/11
I do also like the general strike idea; I wish the soldiers in Iraq would go on one first (I doubt the leadership there would be surprised if they did revolt).
February 8th, 2007 at 2:58 amWell, Bush created the “New Iraq” and look how successful that has….uh, oh, forgot they haven’t been calling it the “New Iraq” lately have they? Come to think of it, they haven’t been referring to the “Old Iraq” or even “Old Europe” much either these days. Wonder why? In any case, it looks like we’ll have the “New Iran” soon too!
I fear all of this continuous nuke-terrorism-war-mongering is a mindless far-right demonic tantrum for the debacles in Iraq and Afghanistan combined with their seething anger at being rejected by the American public. Since they do not respect the Constitution, our democratic process and values, or the people it should be no surprise this continuous regurgitation of same old crap. Anyone–Americans, Europeans, Islam, non-fundamentalist, scientists, teachers, white and blue collar workers, businesses, etc–that disagree with them are simply enemies that must be stopped or destroyed. Always the ‘us against them’ mindset. Everything reduced to simplistic platitudes, which deny reality to deliver more destruction regardless of the ultimate consequences in failure. This is the politics of the “true believers” where ordinary decent folk become simple fodder for their “progroms”.
Who would have ever thought that an American President could even contemplate bringing the world close to the brink over a country with as little world respect as Iran? (At least with the old Soviet Union we had something very real to fear–like, tens of thousands of armed and aimed nukes ready to launch not only at us but all that protected centuries of hard earned liberal humanity across the globe). Who would have ever thought such a President could ignore a world’s warning of impending ecological disaster in global warming only to knowingly dismiss it like some new Flat Earth Society? Who would have ever thought that an American administration could have done so much collective damage to our national reputation, economy, education, and sense of social responsibility, while leaving our great great grandchildren to pick up and pay its debts?
If these guys are in charge much longer we will be not only be worrying about a world in chaos, global warming, and centuries of tit for tat revenge hatred but a whole new perspective of life in the Dark Ages.
February 8th, 2007 at 3:45 amA war with Iran will very likely convince
ALL the Iranian people that possessing a nuclear bomb would be the only way to avoid another war in future and discouraging their potential enemy from attacking Iran.
Being forced by drawing itself out of NPT
and having the mass support, it would be easier for every Iranian government to go forward to achieve this goal.
A war will also be catastrophic for USA. There are still many iraninan who have suffered from Iraq-Iran war which was provocated by USA and they truely blame
the Americans for that sufferings.
All information about Iranian army
movements during that war
(gathered by american sattelites) was
sent directly to Saddam; just to mention one.
There are actually millions of Iranians who are thirsty for an oppurtunity to revenge.
They have both the will and the power (sophisticated light weaponry) to defeat
Americans in a long war.
Bombing nuclear facilities is just the beginning. This decision will be made by Americans. However the end, will be decided by Iranian resistance.
The conclusion is that a war is not of any
good neither to Americans nor to Iranian.
Best regards
February 8th, 2007 at 4:10 amGavmish
“The man couldn’t find oil in Texas…
He’s done nothing successful in his entire presidency of 6 years…
Iraq is a worse mess than it ever was under Saddam…
The National Deficit is in the trillions…
No healthcare, no social security solution, no educational achievements, no solution for Global Warming, and on and on and on…
It’s beyond the point of redemption. “
Thats a matter of fact.
February 8th, 2007 at 4:16 am“The man couldn’t find oil in Texas…
He’s done nothing successful in his entire presidency of 6 years…
Iraq is a worse mess than it ever was under Saddam…
The National Deficit is in the trillions…
No healthcare, no social security solution, no educational achievements, no solution for Global Warming, and on and on and on…
It’s beyond the point of redemption.”
Thats true.
February 8th, 2007 at 4:18 am“Though you cannot see it, but history is being made as we speak, and the world is already in a WW III route. though some left wingers all over the world believe that war can be stopped at any time. I AM TELLING YOU IT CANT !”
You are so right! Wow, now that I’ve accepted and surrendered to armageddon, I do feel GREAT! Remember kids: War=Peace! It’s time to trust our leaders to nuke the RIGHT people, that makes it Okay. Eat more fear, it makes lovely turds like the one I just read.
Thank you moron death squad for your “enlightened perspecitive.”
February 8th, 2007 at 4:38 amSCARY, Bush may be the Anti Christ. We can change history if we demand his resignation now! Not just Bush but Cheny too!
February 8th, 2007 at 4:49 amWHEN WILL WE, AMERICANS STOP PUTTING OUR NOSE ON OTHER COUNTRIES? WTF!
February 8th, 2007 at 4:55 amIsn’t there a provision in the Constitution that allows for the removal of a President (and, by extension, a vice-president) on grounds of insanity? Impeachment procedures would be far too lengthy and would allow George “Strangelove” Bush to go ahead with his insane plans.
February 8th, 2007 at 4:57 amThe war in Iran will be a cover up . Bush, chenny will displace blame and they think they will continue to fear monger. This administration is caught in a web of lies , just like Nixon. We must stop them before they try to cover up with another un law full war!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
February 8th, 2007 at 5:45 amIt’s time for impeachment.
February 8th, 2007 at 5:49 amif so much as an american bullet flies across the iranian border you can kiss 3/4 of the world good bye in under a week because iran is NOT going to be scared to fire that first missile and wipe out israel and start WW3 and global nuclear war…
February 8th, 2007 at 6:33 amnothing in this article is new- sorry. and why didnt author mention PNAC so readers had real info that reveals full scope/pattern of these same players schemes?
February 8th, 2007 at 6:41 am#152 yeah its not new. Nothing is. Just trying to let you know that alot of us in the forum know what The chairman of PNAC is William Kristol, editor of the Weekly Standard and FOX News regular and also a jew with deep Israeli-ties who wants the U.S. in another war with Iran as Israel’s patsy.
February 8th, 2007 at 6:53 amIf we must bomb someone in the Mid East, let’s bomb the “settlements”. Getting rid of those racist land thieves might show the World that we are actually trying to promote peace and justice over there.
February 8th, 2007 at 7:19 amJust as the “ungrateful violent Iraqis” meme has been sown like so much spring seed, look for the “of course we have to guard and control the oil” meme to come out from under wraps this March or April.
It will go, “we must protect the world’s oil resources, because the violent ungrateful Iraqis are incapable of doing so. We will prevent the world’s (formerly the Iraqis’) oil from falling into the hands of the terrorists, or the French.”
Next up: Medal of Freedom for Dick Cheney
February 8th, 2007 at 8:02 amQuestion: Where does the real blame lie respective to what occurred within 1930s Germany - the international elite who funded the Nazi machine, the Nazi’s themselves, or, the majority of the German populace, who sat back and allowed evil to manifest?
Silence = consent.
February 8th, 2007 at 8:05 amthe ape is showing its dumb face again. bush is definitely the stupidest president this country has ever seen - what a shame. they should use his speeches in drug treatment clinics.
February 8th, 2007 at 8:08 amimpeach bush, hang him for war crime!!!
February 8th, 2007 at 8:11 amI love the way Americans operate! You have a president who lost an election but went to the White House anyway. They re-elected him once more and he took you to an unwinnable war on fals pretence, while speding billions in the process and not forgetting the heartbroken