Comments on: CBO Study: Phased Withdrawal Would Save Half A Trillion Dollars http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:44:13 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Dwight Thomas Powers http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1694810 Dwight Thomas Powers Sat, 10 Feb 2007 16:25:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1694810 Immediate and complete withdrawal of all our troops from Iraq and FORCED upon Bush by a no longer complicit Congress, which has the constitutional power and the duty to do so, WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF OUR TROOPS WHOM WE ALL SUPPOSEDLY 'Support'. If Johnson or Nixon had been forced to succumb to the will of the people sooner, who knows just how many less names would appear on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, and just how many of those names would have represented instead the fruitful lives of more war survivors? "DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THAT THOSE WHO GOVERN DO SO AT THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED". Instead, the lying by the Bush regime continues, while the needless dying of our fine young women and men in uniform continues in Iraq. While this and that pol positions him or herself for 'a run at the White House', the Bush debacle in Iraq sadly goes on, bloody day after day. Biden et.al. can kiss my Irish-American a** when he falsely claims as he did weeks ago on Meet The Press that 'surge' cannot be stopped by the Congress. The War Powers Act is still on the books Joe! Congress must be forced by WE THE PEOPLE to show some guts ( and some other body parts too!). If not, the end result will not be any form of hollow Bush 'victory' in Iraq, but a pathetically, and long predicted by many, redux of those evacuation scenes in Saigon, circa 1975, only this time, the U.S. helicopters will be lifting off from the rooftops of the 'green zone' in Baghdad. Politicians can talk all they want, but outraged citizens should be demanding of them day after day, that all elected officials should be working towards quickly ending Bush's debacle 'experiment in democracy' in Iraq. Just as soon as that is accomplished, Bush's reign over the destruction of our own democratic republic should be quickly ended as well with the IMPEACHMENT he and and all of his ilk so justifiably deserve! The so-called 'liberal media' would have us all believe that the people finally spoke in November demanding such 'change of course', yet what has really happend since then? As far as this Marine is concerned, a Democrat sent me to Vietnam in 1968, and a Republican kept me there in 1969. While myself and 550,000 others were stuck in Vietnam, 'the war president' was hiding out somewhere, when he was supposed to be 'serving' in his champaign unit of the Texas Air National Guard, and Dick Cheney was enjoying one of his 5 deferments so he could really hide. Sadly, once again, it does not seem that there really is much of a difference (if any) between Democrats and Republicans. And meanwhile, our troops continue to fight and die in both Afghanistan and Iraq for what? BRING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME-NOW!!!!!!!!! Immediate and complete withdrawal of all our troops from Iraq and FORCED upon Bush by a no longer complicit Congress, which has the constitutional power and the duty to do so, WILL SAVE THE LIVES OF OUR TROOPS WHOM WE ALL SUPPOSEDLY ‘Support’. If Johnson or Nixon had been forced to succumb to the will of the people sooner, who knows just how many less names would appear on the Vietnam Veterans Memorial, and just how many of those names would have represented instead the fruitful lives of more war survivors? “DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THAT THOSE WHO GOVERN DO SO AT THE CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED”. Instead, the lying by the Bush regime continues, while the needless dying of our fine young women and men in uniform continues in Iraq. While this and that pol positions him or herself for ‘a run at the White House’, the Bush debacle in Iraq sadly goes on, bloody day after day. Biden et.al. can kiss my Irish-American a** when he falsely claims as he did weeks ago on Meet The Press that ’surge’ cannot be stopped by the Congress. The War Powers Act is still on the books Joe! Congress must be forced by WE THE PEOPLE to show some guts ( and some other body parts too!). If not, the end result will not be any form of hollow Bush ‘victory’ in Iraq, but a pathetically, and long predicted by many, redux of those evacuation scenes in Saigon, circa 1975, only this time, the U.S. helicopters will be lifting off from the rooftops of the ‘green zone’ in Baghdad. Politicians can talk all they want, but outraged citizens should be demanding of them day after day, that all elected officials should be working towards quickly ending Bush’s debacle ‘experiment in democracy’ in Iraq. Just as soon as that is accomplished, Bush’s reign over the destruction of our own democratic republic should be quickly ended as well with the IMPEACHMENT he and and all of his ilk so justifiably deserve! The so-called ‘liberal media’ would have us all believe that the people finally spoke in November demanding such ‘change of course’, yet what has really happend since then? As far as this Marine is concerned, a Democrat sent me to Vietnam in 1968, and a Republican kept me there in 1969. While myself and 550,000 others were stuck in Vietnam, ‘the war president’ was hiding out somewhere, when he was supposed to be ’serving’ in his champaign unit of the Texas Air National Guard, and Dick Cheney was enjoying one of his 5 deferments so he could really hide. Sadly, once again, it does not seem that there really is much of a difference (if any) between Democrats and Republicans. And meanwhile, our troops continue to fight and die in both Afghanistan and Iraq for what? BRING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME-NOW!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: jsmcvee http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1693891 jsmcvee Sat, 10 Feb 2007 13:25:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1693891 Ugh! No wonder the world hates the US...What qualifies the US to be the boss of the world?? We are the most poorly educated, as well as the poorest (borrowing money from the likes of Mexico)...I see why the American citizens are in such problems with personal debt...the thing is it's all Monopoly money...big screen tv's, shop, shop, shop, bomb, bomb, bomb...it's all good.!!!! Our poor grandchildren!! Ugh! No wonder the world hates the US…What qualifies the US to be the boss of the world?? We are the most poorly educated, as well as the poorest (borrowing money from the likes of Mexico)…I see why the American citizens are in such problems with personal debt…the thing is it’s all Monopoly money…big screen tv’s, shop, shop, shop, bomb, bomb, bomb…it’s all good.!!!! Our poor grandchildren!!

]]> By: babalu http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1688232 babalu Fri, 09 Feb 2007 19:40:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1688232 We should have Congress pull the Bushevik bait-n-switch on the administration and their greedy billionaires. "We'll let you double tax-cuts if you bring our soldiers home now." Then when the soldiers are home - sorry, can't do tax cuts, gotta pay for treatment and education of returning heroes! We should have Congress pull the Bushevik bait-n-switch on the administration and their greedy billionaires. “We’ll let you double tax-cuts if you bring our soldiers home now.” Then when the soldiers are home – sorry, can’t do tax cuts, gotta pay for treatment and education of returning heroes!

]]> By: Evil Spaniard http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1685693 Evil Spaniard Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:42:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1685693 Testing testing. Testing testing.

]]> By: troll alert http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1684140 troll alert Fri, 09 Feb 2007 07:08:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1684140 They’d rather get rid of Social Security and Medicaid first -why fund programs that help, save lives when blowing up stuff is so much more fun? Comment by Gregor Samsa Good point;that's the plan. That statement is more truth than sarcasm. They’d rather get rid of Social Security and Medicaid first -why fund programs that help, save lives when blowing up stuff is so much more fun?
Comment by Gregor Samsa

Good point;that’s the plan.
That statement is more truth than sarcasm.

]]> By: Gregor Samsa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1682663 Gregor Samsa Fri, 09 Feb 2007 03:44:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1682663 Saving money by withdrawing from Iraq!? That makes too much sense; there is no way this White House would ever consider that possibility. They'd rather get rid of Social Security and Medicaid first -why fund programs that help, save lives when blowing up stuff is so much more fun? /sarcasm off Saving money by withdrawing from Iraq!?

That makes too much sense; there is no way this White House would ever consider that possibility.

They’d rather get rid of Social Security and Medicaid first -why fund programs that help, save lives when blowing up stuff is so much more fun?

/sarcasm off

]]> By: Martin of Earth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1681987 Martin of Earth Fri, 09 Feb 2007 00:53:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1681987 The money could be spent on helping developing nations and ending starvation, etc. That would build America's <strong>moral authority </strong> for future missions. But we can't just pull out. We've got to work with other nations to stop civil war in Iraq. Martin Gifford. The money could be spent on helping developing nations and ending starvation, etc. That would build America’s moral authority for future missions.

But we can’t just pull out. We’ve got to work with other nations to stop civil war in Iraq.

Martin Gifford.

]]> By: Carl Gordon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1681396 Carl Gordon Thu, 08 Feb 2007 23:41:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1681396 “….This procedure and this form of execution, which you now have the opportunity of admiring, have at present no open supporters left in our colony. I am their sole defender, and at the same time the sole defender of the legacy of our former commandant. I can no longer contemplate any further development of the system; all my energy is consumed in preserving what we have.”. · Franz Kafka, “In the Penal Colony”. “….This procedure and this form of execution, which you now have the opportunity of admiring, have at present no open supporters left in our colony. I am their sole defender, and at the same time the sole defender of the legacy of our former commandant. I can no longer contemplate any further development of the system; all my energy is consumed in preserving what we have.”.
· Franz Kafka, “In the Penal Colony”.

]]> By: Bluedog49 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1680964 Bluedog49 Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:37:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680964 Dale: "Half a trillion, huh? And how much is it going to cost us to defend ourselves when the terrorists take root in an abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan and launch attacks on our soil." Good question, Dale. For what we spend in Iraq in one month, we could outfit all U.S. ports with state-of-the-art nuclear and chemical screening equipment, check every port container, put anti-missle defenses on all commercial airliners, put armed air marshals on all flights, hire thousands of new translators and beef up our special forces for lightning quick surgical strikes. Next question? Dale: “Half a trillion, huh? And how much is it going to cost us to defend ourselves when the terrorists take root in an abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan and launch attacks on our soil.”

Good question, Dale. For what we spend in Iraq in one month, we could outfit all U.S. ports with state-of-the-art nuclear and chemical screening equipment, check every port container, put anti-missle defenses on all commercial airliners, put armed air marshals on all flights, hire thousands of new translators and beef up our special forces for lightning quick surgical strikes. Next question?

]]> By: Dale http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1680851 Dale Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:20:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680851 Uh, #49, you're just giving them ammo... either find something semi-intelligent to say or keep quiet. Uh, #49, you’re just giving them ammo… either find something semi-intelligent to say or keep quiet.

]]> By: Dale http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-2/#comment-1680839 Dale Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:19:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680839 Half a trillion, huh? And how much is it going to cost us to defend ourselves when the terrorists take root in an <em>abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan</em> and launch attacks on <strong>our </strong>soil. Half a trillion, huh? And how much is it going to cost us to defend ourselves when the terrorists take root in an abandoned Iraq and Afghanistan and launch attacks on our soil.

]]> By: And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680766 And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid Thu, 08 Feb 2007 22:06:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680766 <em>Good thing FaceBook is not called FaceMirror...It would have broken along time ago... Comment by Facebook is Mine! bwahahahaha</em> Phew! My sides are aching! That is hilarious!! "It would have broken!" You did NOT just write that! Oh my god! I cannot stop laughing. ... please, just let me catch my breath! I gotta write that down... "mirror... broken..." Too funny. Good thing FaceBook is not called FaceMirror…It would have broken along time ago… Comment by Facebook is Mine! bwahahahaha

Phew! My sides are aching! That is hilarious!! “It would have broken!” You did NOT just write that! Oh my god! I cannot stop laughing. … please, just let me catch my breath! I gotta write that down… “mirror… broken…” Too funny.

]]> By: Facebook is Mine! bwahahahaha http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680638 Facebook is Mine! bwahahahaha Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:40:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680638 Good thing FaceBook is not called FaceMirror It would have broken along time ago, or as soon as TP posters starting posting their mugs. Are all Dems this fycking ugly? Ick!! Good thing FaceBook is not called FaceMirror

It would have broken along time ago, or as soon as TP posters starting posting their mugs.

Are all Dems this fycking ugly?

Ick!!

]]> By: Juan C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680550 Juan C Thu, 08 Feb 2007 21:22:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680550 <em>just a comment on politics in italy, is that taboo? Comment by karlX </em> KarlX: Yeah, sometimes that happens. Hopefully there is some technical stuff going awry. But recommend me a site or a book about the left in Europe. just a comment on politics in italy, is that taboo?
Comment by karlX

KarlX:
Yeah, sometimes that happens. Hopefully there is some technical stuff going awry. But recommend me a site or a book about the left in Europe.

]]> By: Larry from C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680321 Larry from C Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:38:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680321 More from Albert Einstein... <strong>This topic brings me to that worst outcrop of the herd nature, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in formation to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; a backbone was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilisation ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism by order, senseless violence, and all the pestilent nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism — how I hate them! War seems to me a mean, contemptible thing: I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business.</strong> More from Albert Einstein…

This topic brings me to that worst outcrop of the herd nature, the military system, which I abhor. That a man can take pleasure in marching in formation to the strains of a band is enough to make me despise him. He has only been given his big brain by mistake; a backbone was all he needed. This plague-spot of civilisation ought to be abolished with all possible speed. Heroism by order, senseless violence, and all the pestilent nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism — how I hate them! War seems to me a mean, contemptible thing: I would rather be hacked in pieces than take part in such an abominable business.

]]> By: Liberal in New Mexico http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680313 Liberal in New Mexico Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:36:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680313 1. There can be no price placed on life and money should not be the motivational factor. 2. ANYWAY, I don't trust these figures or the office from where they come and would assume that the amount is much higher than reported. 3. In the end -Who the hell cares? Just get the hell out of Iraq, where we never belonged anyway, and bring the frigging troops home! Now! 1. There can be no price placed on life and money should not be the motivational factor.
2. ANYWAY, I don’t trust these figures or the office from where they come and would assume that the amount is much higher than reported.
3. In the end -Who the hell cares? Just get the hell out of Iraq, where we never belonged anyway, and bring the frigging troops home! Now!

]]> By: Larry from C http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680298 Larry from C Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:35:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680298 43: Never heard those tapes. I'm far from an expert on any one assasination. I just can spot trends. 43: Never heard those tapes. I’m far from an expert on any one assasination. I just can spot trends.

]]> By: big papa http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680277 big papa Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:30:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680277 <strong>In a priceless moment during Congressman Waxman's hearings questioning the witnesses/counsel from Halliburton, Blackwater, the Army's contracting office, and ESS... ...after Patrick Henry (R-NC) finished his rant about thie hearing being a partisan political show... ...Waxman told McHenry that he (McHenry) would probably want us all to hide our heads under rocks than find out the truth (words to that effect)... ...Waxman then told an exasperated McHenry that he (McHenry) should crwl back under his rock... ...you could've bought that Repulsivescum TRAITOR McHenry for a dime and gotten nine cents change... ...I went to bed euphoric... ...it's about time we started calling these Repulsivescum out!</strong> In a priceless moment during Congressman Waxman’s hearings questioning the witnesses/counsel from Halliburton, Blackwater, the Army’s contracting office, and ESS…

…after Patrick Henry (R-NC) finished his rant about thie hearing being a partisan political show…

…Waxman told McHenry that he (McHenry) would probably want us all to hide our heads under rocks than find out the truth (words to that effect)…

…Waxman then told an exasperated McHenry that he (McHenry) should crwl back under his rock…

…you could’ve bought that Repulsivescum TRAITOR McHenry for a dime and gotten nine cents change…

…I went to bed euphoric…

…it’s about time we started calling these Repulsivescum out!

]]> By: ForTruth http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680266 ForTruth Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:26:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680266 Larry from C Ever listen to the "Johnson Tapes"? no, not that johnson, the Lynden one. He talks about how Bobby Kennedy is a "problem" quite extensively. Larry from C

Ever listen to the “Johnson Tapes”? no, not that johnson, the Lynden one.

He talks about how Bobby Kennedy is a “problem” quite extensively.

]]> By: ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/comment-page-1/#comment-1680253 ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Thu, 08 Feb 2007 20:22:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/08/cost-of-redeployment/#comment-1680253 Republicans were <b>for</b> saving money, before they were <b>against</b> saving money. flip-flop, flip-flop :) Republicans were for saving money, before they were against saving money. flip-flop, flip-flop :)

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