This morning, the Pentagon Inspector General Thomas F. Gimble found that former Undersecretary of Defense Doug Feith developed, produced, and disseminated “alternative intelligence assessments” to falsely claim that a relationship existed between Iraq and al Qaeda.
Testifying about the report before the Senate Armed Services Committee today, Gimble said Feith’s office “did not provide the most accurate analysis of intelligence to senior decision makers” at a time when the White House was making the public case for war at home.
While Feith’s “intelligence” analysis was presented to the White House, Gimble explained that he was unable to determine to what extent the White House used Feith’s false reports. Under questioning from Sen. John Warner (R-VA), Gimble revealed that White House attorneys refused to allow National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley to be interviewed:
GIMBLE: Senator, we requested an interview with Mr. Hadley. The lawyers at the National Security Council did not let us interview him. So we requested and were unable to. Frankly, he is not a member of our department, so we don’t have any authority to interview…
WARNER: I understand that. But the simple fact is you made a request, for whatever reason. On counsel’s advice, he declined.
GIMBLE: Right.
At the conclusion of the hearing, Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) pledged that his committee would pursue both Hadley and Scooter Libby. “We will be talking to witnesses who presented [the Feith analysis] to the Vice President’s Office and to the National Security Council.” Addressing Gimble, Levin said, “So if you would supply us with the names of the people from the Feith office that did make this presentation, we will be interviewing those folks.” Stay tuned.
Wow! Now this really surprises me.
/sarcasm
February 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pmI called this yesterday in the WaPo editorial. Same disgraceful shallow “investigation” as they did in Gitmo. WHITEWASH, nothing to see here folks, just a shredded constitution, move along.
Jimmy, fire up the copy machine, we have some Subpeona’s to surge.
February 9th, 2007 at 3:49 pmLooks like if anyone is going under the bus about the manipulated intel, it’s Feith.
February 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pmHW’s illigitamate child?
February 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pmI love the smell of oversight in the Senate! It smells like…victory!
February 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pmOn counsel’s advice, he declined.
GIMBLE: Right.
Sheeeiiiiiiittt!
February 9th, 2007 at 3:55 pmThey’re lawyerin up boys! Somebody go back and get a shitload of subpoeanas!!
How many times do I have to tell you scumbag libs? There’s a thing called the SEPERATION of powers. Say it with me: SEPERATION OF POWERS. That’s means back of the President, let him fight his war, and in doing so, bring victory to Americans and freedom to Iraqis. Yeah, like you guys care about the Iraqi people.
February 9th, 2007 at 3:55 pmStonewalled … big surprise here ….
February 9th, 2007 at 3:57 pmThe f*cking stupidest guy on the face of the earth”….
Well, what’d ya expect?
Cheers,
February 9th, 2007 at 3:58 pmComment by firehead — February 9, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Hey finehead, did you do your research a couple of days ago? You know, what party affiliation was FDR?
February 9th, 2007 at 3:59 pmI’m still waiting for your well researched answer. And remember, punctuation does count for your final grade!
So who would be the one who will fight these White House lawyers if they try to make stand against people testifying and disclosing documents? Gonzales? Good luck with that.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pmJust sayin, If you can’t spell separation, maybe you ought to get back to class and leave the site to someone who can.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pm#7…. mirehead
February 9th, 2007 at 4:02 pmExcuse me, but I’m pretty sure the concept is called BALANCE of power..
as in, checks and balances.
Get your own Pocket Guide to the Constitution (available from NPR), read up on what you are trying to engage us in debate over, and then come back.
#7
February 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pmpizzhead. Yes you are correct there is Separation of Powers….but don’t stop there……why do you think there is a separation of powers. Here’s a hint….it allows them to have oversight of eachother. Its called Checks and Balances. Separation of Powers with Checks and Balances. Get it yet?
#12
February 9th, 2007 at 4:07 pmMaybe finehead meant power that seeps? As in…. the current administration.
#7 firehead
How many times do I have to tell you scumbag libs? There’s a thing called the SEPERATION of powers. Say it with me: SEPERATION OF POWERS.
The word is “separation”. And you don’t know what “separation of powers” means. It doesn’t mean he can break laws and lie to get us into a war.
That’s means back of[f] the President, let him fight his war, and in doing so, bring victory to Americans and freedom to Iraqis. Yeah, like you guys care about the Iraqi people.
It may be his war, but it’s our soldiers’ lives. It’s our Constitution that says he doesn’t get to make all the decisions. No president of the United States gets absolute power, and especially not a lying imbecile like Bush.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:16 pmHW’s illigitamate child?
Comment by ForTruth
Ralphie Parker all grown up — and gone horribly wrong.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:18 pm#11 dlet
So who would be the one who will fight these White House lawyers if they try to make stand against people testifying and disclosing documents? Gonzales? Good luck with that.
If they want to resist a subpoena, then it might bring us to a constitutional crisis. I’m not sure who can be impeached, but that might be an option in some cases.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#17 Zooey
Ralphie Parker all grown up — and gone horribly wrong.
I always thought Rove was Ralphie.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:22 pmLooks like the flaming noggin can’t comprehend that someone would ever start a conflict with less than honorable intensions. Redscalp is getting prepared to fall on his sword.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:22 pmI always knew Hadley was up to his eyeballs in this. I’m glad to see he’s finally going to get grilled.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:24 pmA Stonewall…now there is a surprise for you.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pm#21 ~ Yes, thank you. I’d like my Hadley medium well, with some fresh ground pepper and a side of tartare!
February 9th, 2007 at 4:28 pmGee, I wonder what the White House’s reply is going to be?
- Executive privilege
February 9th, 2007 at 4:32 pm- National Security
- 5th Amendment
- Unitary President we can do anything we want
aahhhhh……the sweet sounds of impeachment dreams coming true…..
February 9th, 2007 at 4:34 pmThe UK’s Guardian had the story on Feith’s office way back in 2003. It’s a doozie. It involves the Office of the Vice President, propaganda posing as intelligence, links to an Israeli intelligence outfit (which led to the imprisonment of one Feith employee, Larry Franklin, for passing secrets to Israel), leaks of unvetted intelligence to Weekly Standard reporters, all sorts of stuff.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:35 pm#7 low quality troll alert
February 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pmThis is pretty funny stuff, firehead. You guys on the right love the Iraqis so much that you seem to be killing as many as you can. Only someone with so-called “family values” could kill so many Iraqis.
February 9th, 2007 at 4:40 pmAin’t accountability a bitch!
February 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pmThe guy has no need of testicles, backbone or frontal grey matter. Where’s Hannibal, when ya NEED him?
February 9th, 2007 at 5:05 pmWhat makes me think Big Oil is behind this? It always comes down to Big Oil.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:19 pm#31- In the mid-1800’s, it was railroad. In the early 1900’s, it was newpaper. Now, it’s oil. Tomorrow, it will be something else. It’s always something that provides the illusion of power and control.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:27 pm#13, don’t scold me about the Constitution. You liberals did not complain about checks and balances when FDR increased his power. And a President should increase his power during a time of war. The Constitution says the Executive branch is the most powerful. There should be no restraints on a President druing a war. Winning is the most important thing. Or else we’ll be forced to speak Arabic when Al Queda takes over. Ask yourself, would you rather fight in Baghdad or Broklyn?
You’re lucky Bush has not dissolved the Senate and ruled by decree. Keep in mind the military would back him if he did. And all you traitors would be locked away for life. I would love it if that happened. That way, we could actually win the Global War on Terror.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:28 pm#33- Fast forward to reality: Bush manipulated intelligence to take us into an illegal war and breached national security to do so. Since, he has corrupted the constitution, in an attempt to undermine and create the illusion of being a war time president. He is, in fact, a thief and a killer. It’s so rediculously simple and non-complex, if you just… open your eyes, firehead-grasshopper.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:32 pm#33
February 9th, 2007 at 5:36 pmLow quality troll alert, resurrected!
Broklyn? Did he/she actually spell friggin’ BROKLYN????
Ask yourself, would you rather fight in Baghdad or Broklyn?
Comment by firehead — February 9, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
Broklyn is okay, is that in the Indian sub-continent somewhere, or southeast Asia?
February 9th, 2007 at 5:40 pmI hope that this will get people talking. The evidence that we were lied to is overwhelming, perhaps as more and more comes to light, the idea of impeachment will gain momentum.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:46 pmThe Constitution says the Executive branch is the most powerful.
Comment by firehead — February 9, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
Okay, Genius. WHERE exactly in the Constitution does it say any such thing?
February 9th, 2007 at 5:50 pmwow – that fireant is one hysterical ninny, as is anyone who is afraid the US could ever ever ever be taken over by islamists. they’re worse than the McCarthyites of the Cold War. Speaking of the Cold War, how did we ever manage to survive it wthout running off half-cocked and starting wars??
February 9th, 2007 at 5:51 pmfirebreath would just love it if we lived in a dictatorship.
February 9th, 2007 at 5:54 pmSays a lot about the authoritarian, masochismic personality of the Bush licking tinydick worshippers.
You’re lucky Bush has not dissolved the Senate and ruled by decree. Keep in mind the military would back him if he did. And all you traitors would be locked away for life. I would love it if that happened. That way, we could actually win the Global War on Terror.
Comment by firehead — February 9, 2007 @ 5:28 pm
Spoken like a true Nazi.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:00 pm#33 – luckily, your type is listed on the endangered species…not many left.(and I’m not a liberal).
February 9th, 2007 at 6:01 pmI always thought Rove was Ralphie.
Comment by chimpeach
Well, you’d be wrong. :)
February 9th, 2007 at 6:03 pm#33 firehead
don’t scold me about the Constitution. You liberals did not complain about checks and balances when FDR increased his power. And a President should increase his power during a time of war.
Not when the president creates the phony rationale for the war and then starts it. In WWII, we were literally defending ourselves. But, Bush declared he had the right to pre-emptively attack sovereign nations and then he went ahead and did just that, without actually having anything to pre-empt. What we have here is a tyrant. And he needs to be removed.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:05 pm#44 Zooey
Well, you’d be wrong. :)
Bitch.
I meant that in good way.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:06 pmShorter firehead:
“George W. Bush is God! He can do anything he wants and you should just be quiet and let him!”
That boy just loves him some dictators.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:10 pm#33 firehead
You’re lucky Bush has not dissolved the Senate and ruled by decree. Keep in mind the military would back him if he did. And all you traitors would be locked away for life. I would love it if that happened. That way, we could actually win the Global War on Terror.
Oh my god, did he really say that? That is so cute!
February 9th, 2007 at 6:12 pmfirehead: “The Constitution says the Executive branch is the most powerful.”
Where does it say that? In fact, Congress is Article One because the founders wanted to be specific that it was the most important branch. It’s a “Representative republic” and our reps are there.
Firehead: “You’re lucky Bush has not dissolved the Senate and ruled by decree. Keep in mind the military would back him if he did.”
Go to the library and check out “Seven Days in May.” Members of the military take an oath to protect the constitution, not the leader.
“You liberals did not complain about checks and balances when FDR increased his power.”
First, nobody here was alive when FDR increased his power. Secondly, you’re just flat out wrong. There were quite a few liberals who complained about executive power during the 30’s.
Firehead, calm down. I can see that you have no faith in our system. That’s obvious. I can see that you’re part of the “blame America” crowd. But, just exactly how does “al Qeada take over?”
February 9th, 2007 at 6:18 pmOne of these days, I should head over to little green footballs or powerline, or whatever, and just make bizarre baiting statements. Just like you will bow down to the jihadist liberal masters or something. See how many of them have heart attacks and drop dead.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:23 pmpay no attention to firehead… obviously a TROLL looking to wing his daily nut by antagonizing us regular folk who aren’t BIG PUSSIES whining about arabic being the major threat to our daily livelihoods, how we’re oh so lucky his royal high-ass hasn’t yet bestowed upon us his fabulous designs for dictatorship, which by the way, according to firehead, is a far better way of life to be loved than living under say, oh i dunno, maybe a democracy, and how if all of us who don’t agree with chimpy and his mindless automaton armies were locked away, or somehow simply didn’t exist, that we would be winning their global, war “on terror”…
February 9th, 2007 at 6:29 pmand to top it off, firehead is obviously not from brooklyn for if he was, he might’ve noticed that arabs were there long before his phobias had time to congeal in his little lizard brain, and arabs still are there and speak arabic there every day… right alongside any number of other people of various cultures who happen to be able to speak in the languages of their choice when and where they want to as granted by that pesky little paper that always gets in the way of firehead’s and other’s like him fantastic delusions of grandeur… the CONSTITUTION
Bitch.
I meant that in good way.
Comment by chimpeach
I’m really surprised I don’t get that more often. Heh.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:40 pmdum…dum…dum….dum…..the dragnet theme is playing loudly now! This damning evidence has been all over the MSM all day and it puts another nail in the coffin of this administration. By the time congress gets through with them, they will be nationally known as the “house of corruption” on Capitol Hill.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:46 pm….In an international tribunal, a “war based on lies” is certainly considered “high crimes of the highest order” and I wonder what the punishment will be?
February 9th, 2007 at 6:47 pmI say “kudos to firehead/wingnut/whatever this idiot troll’s name is this time” for keeping us fired up! It’s working…..and igniting everyone who visits these threads. Through the postings of these trolls and their hate-filled, vile thoughts, the Democratic party can thank them for being their “largest recruiting tool”. Ahahahaha~! Thanks you trolls! Keep that vitriolic blather and inane drivel spewing in our direction! You’ve become our “greatest recruiting tool”.
February 9th, 2007 at 6:49 pmfirehead; is your brownshirt tailor made or store bought? Methinks your jackboots are cutting off the circulation to what ever gray matter that you may have had.
February 9th, 2007 at 7:28 pmFeith, Hadley, Libby, Gonzales, Addington, Yoo, Perle, Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Dumbsfailed, Rice, Rove, Torticola Cheney, CHIMPya, and a whole bunch of national security staff, attorney general staff, white house staff, a whole bunch of repugnant-repubs and neocons are going to have to be investigated, charged, found guilty and if it were left up to me, EXECUTED for their High Crimes involving the Iraq War, Lying to Grand Juries, Lying to the American People, Personally Profiteering from their Illegal Activities, and a whole number of War Crimes and High Crimes–DEATH is to lenient a punishment for these inhuman scum-turds!!!!!
February 9th, 2007 at 7:34 pmrabidly put, Raymond, and I agree in principal….
February 9th, 2007 at 7:46 pmI don’t want it to be up to me as to what their punishment should be, thankfully we have KARMA to take care of that.
Now that we posters are becoming a force to be reckoned with, (even get mentioned as a source on MSNBC!), I’m asking us all not to threaten anyone, not even the trolls.
If we threaten others, then we become terrorists…
We are the true warriors in the war on terror.
After all, it truly is violence, retribution, domination and exploitation that we seek to eliminate from our culture.
Well Put Raven! I wish I were as fair and even-tempered as you. Unfortunately, these creeps make my blood boil and steam literally comes out of my ears like in a Three Stooges sketch or a Popeye cartoon!
February 9th, 2007 at 8:15 pmOMG – firehead,
You really believe in the “fight ‘em over there so we don’t have to fight ‘em over here’ as somthing approaching reality. WOW!
Let’s see, I wonder why that does not seem to work for folks in London or Madrid. I wonder why you are 100% CERTAIN that in the tens of thousands, really the millions, of folks crossing our southern border illegally you are 100% CERTAIN not a single one is a terrorist. NOT ONE! Oh i know why, because President Monkey Brains, the Baby Banana in Chief, told you it’s impossible. And no terrorist on the face of the planet can get a legitimate visa to come here, well, not since those 19 guys in those plans did just that. Of course not. When the Preznit says it can’t be then lo and behold, it can’t be.
I believe in Saudi Arabia, you know where those other 19 guys came from, since Baby Buch is such a manly, hand holding, lip locking, fan of Saudi royality, didn’t they get the okay to return to using that express visa system where you pretty much just show up, grab a passport, and get on a flight to the US. Surely no Saudi would ever enter this country AGAIN with such terrorist ideas in his or her head.
I’m glad you mentioned FDR, see when Japan bombed us he attacked Japan. Imagine that, actually going after the folks who attacked you. He could have invaded Canada or Mexico, but thankfully he choose to hit those who had attacked us. Do you know who Osama Bin Laden is? Perhaps you can pass this on to the Commander in Chief beacuse he has no idea.
February 9th, 2007 at 11:27 pmStill waiting for you liberals to comment on William Arkin?
February 10th, 2007 at 1:26 amIf the Bush Administration cooperates with any investigation, it will expose the true facts.
Bush lied and our soldiers died.
February 11th, 2007 at 12:57 pm[...] in his intelligence stovepipe operation. The reality is that the IG tried to question them, but the White House refused to allow it: GIMBLE: We requested an interview with Mr. Hadley. The lawyers at the National Security Council [...]
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