The New York Times today published a front-page story by Michael Gordon which recites administration claims about Iran’s involvement in Iraq “without the slightest questioning, investigation, or presentation of ample counter-evidence.” Greg Mitchell notes, via Glenn Greenwald, that it was Gordon “who, on his own, or with Judith Miller, wrote some of the key, and badly misleading or downright inaccurate, articles about Iraqi WMDs in the run-up to the 2003 invasion.”
The Times story comes even as evidence grows that the administration planned to release contained cooked intelligence in a “briefing” on Iranian involvement in Iraq .
In little noted comments on Feb. 2, National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley acknowledged that the Iran briefing washeld back because it was “overstated” and not “focused on the facts.”
HADLEY: The reason we put the intelligence briefing on hold was really two reasons. One, we thought we’d better get the NIE out so people could see the full context, which you now can. And secondly, quite frankly, we want to make sure that if we put out intelligence, the intelligence community and MNFI can stand behind it, because we are sensitive to try and put out the facts as accurately as we can. …
Q And now [the briefing has] been pushed back. Can we conclude anything from that other than people looked at the intelligence that was set to offered and said, this is not good enough?
MR. HADLEY: No, I wouldn’t –
Q Does that mean there was a willingness to overstate it?
MR. HADLEY: The truth is, quite frankly, we thought the briefing overstated. And we sent it back to get it narrowed and focused on the facts.
But a new report in the National Journal states that it was the intelligence community, not the White House, that demanded the briefing be “scrubbed” of overstated claims:
At least twice in the past month, the White House has delayed a PowerPoint presentation initially prepared by the military to detail evidence of suspected Iranian materiel and financial support for militants in Iraq. The presentation was to have been made at a press conference in Baghdad in the first week of February. Officials have set no new date, but they say it could be any day.
Even as U.S. officials in Baghdad were ready to make the case, administration principals in Washington who were charged with vetting the PowerPoint dossier bowed to pressure from the intelligence community and ordered that it be scrubbed again.
Despite the intelligence community’s intervention, there is still no guarantee that the intel on Iran that is eventually made public will be factual or comprehensive. As yesterday’s report on Douglas Feith reinforced, senior administration officials are perfectly willing to work around intelligence professionals to obtain the “facts” that justify their ideology.
UPDATE: U.S. officials leak the intelligence to Joe Lieberman, who says he approves:
U.S. military commanders in Iraq have shown members of Congress explosive devices that bear Iranian markings as evidence Tehran is supplying Iraqi militants with bombs, a senior U.S. government official said Saturday.
One of the lawmakers, independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, said he has seen some of the evidence, though he would not be specific. “I’m convinced from what I’ve seen that the Iranians are supplying and are giving assistance to the people in Iraq who are killing American soldiers,” said Lieberman, who was attending an international security conference in Munich.
Lets hope we maintain this jump start on foiling the criminals.
February 10th, 2007 at 10:43 amYou may want to check this article in UK’s “The Guardian”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,2010086,00.html
February 10th, 2007 at 10:46 amThis is one of the many side-effects of the Iraq war. Even if Iran or any other country is a REAL threat,the Bush administration has lost all credibility with the American people and with the internatinal community. Now we will be less ressponsive to TRUE threats, because we cannot trust those in positions of leadership who repeatedly abused our trust to promote the war in Iraq.
February 10th, 2007 at 10:51 amPutin: U.S. force encouraging nuclear ambitions
POSTED: 9:10 a.m. EST, February 10, 2007
• Putin blasts United States for “almost uncontained” use of force in the world
• U.S. actions encourage other nations to acquire nuclear weapons, he says
• Russian leader concerned over U.S. plans for missile defense system
MUNICH, Germany (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin blasted the United States Saturday for the “almost uncontained” use of force in the world, and for encouraging other countries to acquire nuclear weapons.
Putin speaks the truth our aggressiveness scares other countries. Golly, that sounds like part of the definition of terrorism. I know Jason enjoys terrorizing.
February 10th, 2007 at 10:54 amEhm, you do realize that the report from yesterday has been, um, corrected? In other words, yesterday’s report in the Washington Post was a wash because they used Carl Levin’s own report as if it was the Inspector General’s report. Whoops.
Ah, but Think Progress and the rest don’t care if a correction was issued.
doro,
And up pop Vince Cannistraro, Philip Giraldi, and Sam Gardiner again to peddle the story about a coming attack on Iran, like they have done many times before. In fact, almost every story written about this has centered on claims from one of these people. Interesting, no? Oh, and Cannistraro, Giraldi, and Gardiner all have ties to Larry Johnson’s VIPS group. Interesting, no?
February 10th, 2007 at 10:54 amGW Botch and Dick(head) Cheney must be removed from office!!! It’s the ONLY solution!!
February 10th, 2007 at 10:55 amThey’re “cookin’ the books” just like they did on Iraq. The People need believe ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that comes from this corrupt white house, pentagon, and other agencies being pressured about intel. They “think” they got away with it once and are trying the same tactics and ploys once again with Iran. Won’t work this time, Dubya!
Now let’s get back to the cooked intel on Iraq and bring this cadre of criminals to the appropriate justice they so deserve!
INVESTIGATE
February 10th, 2007 at 10:59 amINDICT
IMPEACH
NOW
Seixon, I didn’t link to the Washington Post story. There was enough damning material on Feith in the actual report.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:00 am#6 Dixie Blood - The american people are beginning to recognize the reality of your statement and are pressing their reps to bring about impeachment proceedings. I should think that Cheney’s involvement in the Plame affair would be enough to impeach him for “treason” (high crimes & misdemeanors)??
This country does not have two more years left to it’s faltering democracy! The Bush Cabal will destroy it all if given that much time.
The time to impeach is NOW. The time for this country to show the rest of the world that We, The People, are NOT in synch with the level of corruption in washington is NOW.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:01 am“They’re “cookin’ the books…â€
No surprise there. He was a good friend of Kenneth Lay!
February 10th, 2007 at 11:06 amSeixon, I didn’t link to the Washington Post story. There was enough damning material on Feith in the actual report.
Comment by Admin — February 10, 2007 @ 11:00 am
Yeah, Seixon, so quit making things up, because it sure looks desperate and pathetic.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:08 amIraq War = Crying Wolf
February 10th, 2007 at 11:14 amIt’s too bad that now nothing emanating from our government can be believed!
Another Judith Miller moment. Anonymous White House sources can’t be trusted, they lie. Call NYTimes and voice your opinion re: Michael Gordon’s misleading article on Iran - 1-800-698-6397 or 1-800-NYT-NEWS. No more war!
February 10th, 2007 at 11:16 am#
Iraq War = Crying Wolf
It’s too bad that now nothing emanating from our government can be believed!
Comment by veritas — February 10, 2007 @ 11:14 am
My point exactly. Thank you.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amLately Seixon has focused his efforts on trying to bluff everyone that Bush is not moving towards war with Iran. Of course numerous recent developments with respect to Iran are creating a story arc that follows a nearly identical script as the lead up to our ill-fated war against the Iraqi people. For those who followed the news then, and are following now, it would be irrational to not recognize the profound similarities.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:18 amComment by Seixon
High level millitary people being up in arms about whether nukes are on the table with Iran are all I need to know that Iran is being discussed as a war target. I also know that Bushites are trying to say other wise. Bushites are proven liars…. well that pretty much sums it up for me. Impeach Cheney then Bush. Get someone smart put in their place and then lets do a real study to find out what should be done about Iran.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:21 amIt sounds like a re-play of Saddam’s frightening WMDS….that were supposed to hit us in 15 minutes time according to Tony Blair famous ‘dossier’, then the rockets,the drones loaded with poisonous gases spraying all over the planet according to Colin Powell, of course, that was all before the war started.
None of it later found to be true. But what is really true now is that we are bogged down in Iraq…with thousands died and more dying and injured daily, don’t know how to get out,spending billions of dollars….while people are still waiting for a safe way out this here and in Iraq.
Now , it is Iran…!!
The Neocons seems not to learn their lessons from past experiences,but since they are the big gainers of contineous wars..why should they stop?!, if the price of war is still paid by others….
History also taught us that starting a war, is always easier than finishing it,and Iraq is no exception. History taught us also to examine reasons carefully put before us by politicians,because leaders always who started wars.
If the Congress looks the other way,so is the media,then we should not be surprised to find ourselves in a new war soon with Iran…but it will be a bigger one this time,with multiple dimensions.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:24 amBush Regime never presents real evidence about anything. They just want to attack Iran to control its oil like they did to Iraq.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:24 amIt sounds to me like the White House and the intelligence community are trying to come to a meeting of the minds. Both are uncomfortable about being so scrutinized in the public eye and are cautious. Well they should be.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:38 amI’m sure both Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are making numerous phone calls, trying to intimidate opposition and coerce some support. Maybe with thier footing so shakey with impending legal investigations, they’ll just have to take a back seat and relax, smell the flowers.
The New York Times today published a front-page story by Michael Gordon which recites administration claims about Iran’s involvement in Iraq “without the slightest questioning, investigation, or presentation of ample counter-evidence.â€
I’m sure Gordon’s journalism school professors are so pleased……
February 10th, 2007 at 11:40 am/sarcasm
I believe Bush said he had no plans to go to war with Iraq up until the day the bombs dropped.
We all now know the intelligence was cooked, thus deceiving Congress and the American people and leading to the war in Iraq.
We all now know that Vice-Commander-in-Chief Cheney decided, purely for political revenge, to reveal the identity of the CIA agent and the covert company/operation which was tasked with gathering intelligence on WMDs.
Cheney’s action sent a clear message to the intelligence community: if you dare reveal the fact that the Bush Administration is using false or faulty intelligence in a build-up to war, your identity will be revealed. You and your contacts’ lives will be endangered.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:42 amVerbal,
Hey, all I’m saying is that these stories about an imminent attack on Iran have been circulated by the same handful of people from the start, and all of them have ties to VIPS. The media doesn’t mention that they do and thus gives the impression that they’re independently corroborating each other.
But hey, if you want to be like Scott Ritter and continue to believe in something that just never gets around to happening, be my guest. They’ve been peddling this script since early 2005. You’d think someone would have figured out the bluff by now. Guess not.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:43 amThere’s no need for conjecture, Jay…the game plan is quite explicitly laid out by the PNAC.
Check here for details.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:44 amIf the Rooskies decided to invade Canada for the purposes of overthrowing that government, would anyone be surprised if our citizens became involved in that fight?
February 10th, 2007 at 11:45 amSeixon,
The Democrats took back Congress three months ago. You can stop peddling your smut here now.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:48 amHopefully, the media and the various departments of intelligence AND security ALL realize now that this administration’s firm grip on thier testicular sack is loosing it’s hold. No one is that afraid of this bunch of twisted perverts, anymore. It’s like the Munchkin’s celebration when Dorothy’s house lands on the Wicked Witch, only we still have the other witch to kill. There’s no like like… HOME.
February 10th, 2007 at 11:51 amNY Times - Link Cooking 101
Exhibit A - tristero via Digby
“On the day of the week when the fewest people read the Times, the brave, brave editors got around to opining on the unbelievably filthy activities of Douglas Feith:
‘It took far too long, but a report by the Pentagon inspector general has finally confirmed that Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld’s do-it-yourself intelligence office cooked up a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda to help justify an unjustifiable war…’
“Now let’s shake off the lulling effect of their deliberately dispassionate language and think about all this for a few moments. Then it becomes quite clear that given what is actually at issue here, the editors’ atrociously mixed metaphor - “cooked up a link” - is an inexcusably cowardly effort to avoid their solemn responsibility to talk truth to power.”
Exhibit B - above:
“The New York Times today published a front-page story by Michael Gordon which recites administration claims about Iran’s involvement in Iraq ‘without the slightest questioning, investigation, or presentation of ample counter-evidence.’ â€
Thus, to recap, talk out of both sides of your face, softsoap the treasonous behavior by Feith, ordered by Cheney and Rummy and print it when nobody will read it. Then run a front page fiction story by a hack boot licker like Gordon and lather, rinse, repeat. Lesson over.
Is AIPAC in the house?
February 10th, 2007 at 11:52 amNo one, least of all, the American people are gonna buy this time around(except for their neo-Nazi sycophants).
February 10th, 2007 at 11:58 amIt’s the same story all over again… PNAC/Office of special plans at work:
Pentagon confirms Iranian directorate as officials raise new concerns about war (Thursday June 15, 2006)
http://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2006/ Pentagon_confirms_Iranian_directorate_as_intelligence_0615.html
Senator calls report ‘devastating condemnation’ of Office of Special Plans
February 10th, 2007 at 12:06 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/ news/ 2007/ A_devastating_condemnation_of_OSP_and_0208.html
The fact that we have built up some of our largest toys in the Gulf of
February 10th, 2007 at 12:12 pmTonkinPersia, is of great concern.The Bush administration “cooking” intelligence reports?
Reports they will use to give cover to their aggressive actions against another country?
That is unheard of!!
/sarcasm off
February 10th, 2007 at 12:14 pmGregor Sosa I see you are stupid enough to fire up your compuetr and attempt to debate me again today.
Some never learn. Say something…ANYthing!
I will be waiting….to pounce on your every comment.
So go ahead, I dare you to post comments.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:20 pmHey, all I’m saying is that these stories about an imminent attack on Iran have been circulated by the same handful of people from the start, and all of them have ties to VIPS.
Comment by Seixon — February 10, 2007 @ 11:43 am
Okay, first of all, what you have written here is just some made up stuff. You are trying to pull off a dishonest (and lame) rhetorical trick: the only people predicting war with Iran are the people I say are the only people predicting war with Iran. But we already know that cherry-picking is your stock in trade, and you aren’t fooling anyone with it It isn’t just a handful of people, and there is no distinct pattern of connections between the people. To the contrary, quite a few people from all over the political spectrum are simply connecting the dots for themselves. A trickle of such thinking and writing is now a torrent. Why? Because we just went down this path 4 years ago, and we are seeing virtually the same events unfold in the same way at the hands of the same people.
Furthermore, it is dishonest to claim “all I’m saying”, when in fact you have been saying much more than that. You have stated and repeated a the following theory: a small number of people have been using alarmist rhetoric predicting war with Iran, allegedly without any evidence or rationale, for the sole purpose of making Bush “look bad”. You have also offered up that all of us here predicting this war have simply fools who have been “brainwashed” by this little cabal of your imagination.
Really f***ed up there, buddy.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pmThey’ve been knocked off balance and are unraveling more and more, every day. It couldn’t happen to a more deserving bunch of stuffed, arrogant low-lifes.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pmTreason is an awful serious crime.
Good post’s all…..No matter what is said by this lieing administration, quotes, like” we are not going to attack Iran” or any other thing that comes out of their mouth’s the cold hard fact is as follow’s….This bunch did the same thing over Iraq……Now we have many ship’s parked with in striking distance and even russia is supplying Iran with anti missell equipment..The world know’s but deadly cheney and crew don’t care. They will do what ever they want and have said so…Our dem’s haven’t moved quite fast enough on the deadly issues, like stoping these maniacs and unless something is done quickly we most certainly are going to be in more war…..That’s all this bunch of sicko’s know and have planned from before bull shit’s instilation, feed a industrial war complex and take over all the oil rich areas…Dismanteling our constitution and total control of the U.S.A has been a game play bonus and they have done it all with hardly a wimper…Impeach Now..Blessings
February 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pmlow quality troll alert — comment #33
February 10th, 2007 at 12:23 pm(sorry about the typos, but sometimes I can brook no delay when responding to Seixon’s tripe)
February 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pmSome of this talk of Iran is true, I have seen much influance of Iran in Iraq. I spent 15 months in Iraq and have spoken with a few “Diplomats”
February 10th, 2007 at 12:26 pmfrom Iran whose intentions are not in the best intrest for anyone other than Extremist.
Spudge_Boy
hmm..lemme see here.
Oh yes….Fudge_Packer_boy is a new name for you that will stick I am sure.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:30 pmSpudge_Boy
hmm..lemme see here.
Oh yes….Fudge_Packer_Boy is a new name for you that will stick I am sure.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:31 pmAre they just too scared to tell the American people the truth, that we must attack all middle east countries rich with oil? Why do they think we would be LESS likely to support such an Military operation?
If oil is SO freakin’ vital to our economic stability, that should be enough of an incentive to garner support, but instead they prefer the “boogeyman” approach which forces them to lie which, when revealed, ultimately undermines ANY credibility in our Government, which is where we are now.
And like all chronic liars, they continue lying in order to cover the initial lie. It’s a good thing the majority of the population now understands this, and are demanding a proper course of action (except the kool aid drinkin’ 28% - what a joke!) Please, step aside and let those who know what’s truly in our best interests run the show, thanks (remember November and who’s the minority NOW?)
February 10th, 2007 at 12:32 pmAnd here is our finest example of trolling so far.
Comment by Spudge_Boy —aka> Fudge_Packer_Boy
Your party has no…..” our ”
You are all alone each and everyone with their own ” individual party ”
You will never make a national impression.
Never.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pm#41, #42, #43, #44…
February 10th, 2007 at 12:34 pm(yawn)
Is rachel/santo posting here?
did she/it say something of meaning?
(yawn)
wake-n-bake
hmmm.
lemme see….
” Shaky Flake ” is yourt new handle and bOY does it fit to a tee!
February 10th, 2007 at 12:36 pmDR XJ,
hmmm..
lemme see….
Dr Xamine Jism…..another nice addition to the ” name ” collection
February 10th, 2007 at 12:37 pmOff meds, again?
February 10th, 2007 at 12:38 pmI am changing my name from Spudge_Boy to Fudge_Packer_Boy.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:39 pmI hope this ends any confusion.
The trolls immature, idiotic posts should be repelled like water on a ducks back since they are so lacking in substance and therefore all too easy to ignore.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:39 pm… and you’ve been reported and ALL YOUR IMPORTANT WORDS will be deleted VERY SOON…
February 10th, 2007 at 12:40 pmBriseadh na Faire I believe Bush said he had no plans to go to war with Iraq up until the day the bombs dropped.
Oh no, it was quite clear what was coming:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2003/ 03/ 20030317-7.html
Many Iraqis can hear me tonight in a translated radio broadcast, and I have a message for them. If we must begin a military campaign, it will be directed against the lawless men who rule your country and not against you. As our coalition takes away their power, we will deliver the food and medicine you need. We will tear down the apparatus of terror and we will help you to build a new Iraq that is prosperous and free. In a free Iraq, there will be no more wars of aggression against your neighbors, no more poison factories, no more executions of dissidents, no more torture chambers and rape rooms. The tyrant will soon be gone. The day of your liberation is near.
It is too late for Saddam Hussein to remain in power. It is not too late for the Iraqi military to act with honor and protect your country by permitting the peaceful entry of coalition forces to eliminate weapons of mass destruction. Our forces will give Iraqi military units clear instructions on actions they can take to avoid being attacked and destroyed. I urge every member of the Iraqi military and intelligence services, if war comes, do not fight for a dying regime that is not worth your own life.
Impromptu visitation by Cruise Missiles on known hideouts of Mr. Hussein started even before the deadline was up.
The Economist leads with Iran: Why George Bush should resist a Wagnerian exit from the White House
http://www.economist.com/ opinion/ displaystory.cfm?story_id=8668903
February 10th, 2007 at 12:41 pm#20 - Zooey,
I’m sure Gordon’s journalism school professors are so pleased……
/sarcasm
Comment by Zooey
Gordon maybe got his degree the same way Dubya got his from Yale — with Poppi’s help!
February 10th, 2007 at 12:42 pmShaky Flake,
I doubt it. If so, I will just repost again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again.
This site will NEVER be rid of me. Get it?
It wouyld be even EASIER for me to post should you require registration in the future.
TP? Can we please go to registration now? I have several ” registration hacks ” I am just dying to try out.
Pretty please?
And Fudge_Packer_Boy?
You laughed your ass off at my ” got elvis ” post the other day.
Not so funny anymore I assume?
February 10th, 2007 at 12:45 pmEl Tonno
hmmmm…
lemme see…
El TonTo-
Yes because you are always like a mare in a fire. Always running about not knowing which end is up.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:47 pmDear Fellow Americans.
As you all know we are one hijacked nation, whose destiny and fate has been sold for American idol and hollywood movies and porn. I would like you to disregard everything you might read from the leftist media, especially Newsweek about the wrong Intel we are shovelling into your mouth over the next war. Though its the truth.
Reason: This is war that the Israelis, who hold the nation at a very high ransom wants really bad. They are afraid that once Iran has the nukes, the Arabs would no longer be humiliated because of the likely painful, and high consequence.
As we all know the price Clinton paid for not doing the bid of the almighty Jewish lobby, I don’t want to end up with a similar Lewinsky scandal, and get the media hitting me with their smear pie.
I feel really trapped. This guys are very very desperate and you won’t believe to what extent they will control me, and make me do things that would make me cry like a baby at night. Ahhhh, you want to know what I say everyday I read and hear that more and more of our boys and Iraqis die down there. I cry and shout loudly, saying, “OH GOD, THEY MADE DO IT… JESUS! I NEVER INTEND THIS…!” I don’t believe how Babara and the twins cope with this, but they sure understand that I am one hopeless soul.
You guys think I am a monster? Right? Sure, I look like one. But deep in my heart, I am not. I was really thinking everything was going to end in Afghanistan which was a great deal of fun. But in truth, we really wished we hadn’t killed Osama early. We wished Saddam would have given him assylum, and that the raghead would have accept it too, and that would have given us the reason to wipe out Iraq. But the guy died too fast. And thanks to the Israel who gave us 9/11, they continued providing fake CGI to the idiotic Al-Jazeera and our cursed media about Osama being alive. And as we all know, they also manufactured the WMD of Saddam, and now, they are doing fine over this bombing of Iran.
Guys, please I really your help to get me impeached. The whitehouse is just like a den of the monster in the Invasion of the Body Snatcher. Fat Dick (aka Frankenstein) is there to make me talk tough about killing the Iranians. Infact, my thoughts doesn’t count to these guys. They think I am an idiot. Because, they think for me. Write for me. And tell me what to tell you people. I feel like an invalid in the White House, and if there is anything I wanted to do so bad, it is to nuke AIPAC, the ADL office down here, and the entire Israeli. And one other thing. I desire the chance to beat the shit of Dick, my vise. But not a chance, eh? I bet that would come in hell.
But guys, you could still help me. PLEASE! HELP IMPEACH ME! GO talk to the stupid dumb b****tch PELOSI. Tell her Im sick of this cage (white House) they locked me in.
And please, don’t vote Hilliary, McCain, Lieberman, Romney, or any of these GOPper asslickers. They are under AIPAC payroll and funded by the Israel Likud party which supervises how your taxes are to be spent (especially militraily and on the contract bases). Please, tell them I am sick of this hell. I know what would happen if I blow Iran, and I don’t want to.
PLEASE SAVE ME. IMPEACH ME.
Signed: The chained soul of GWB, during an extensive seance with creasybear.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:51 pmtrolls warped ramblings=water
thread topic=duck’s back
The two just don’t go together, no matter how much water you pour on the duck, the duck continues to swim without even acknowledging the water.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:53 pmSome of this talk of Iran is true, I have seen much influance of Iran in Iraq. I spent 15 months in Iraq and have spoken with a few “Diplomatsâ€
from Iran whose intentions are not in the best intrest for anyone other than Extremist.
Comment by wah wah we wah — February 10, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
No s**t, Sherlock. Iran wants to expand its regional influence. That is how all countries behave when given the opportunity. The question is what best to do about the mess that King George has created.
February 10th, 2007 at 12:53 pmSo lets see, a country that secretly wants to supply weapons will leave serial numners and markings on them?!
riiiiiiiiggggghhhhttttt!!! I’ll buy that, just show it on Fox News. :p
February 10th, 2007 at 12:56 pm> Yes because you are always like a mare in a fire. Always running about not knowing which
> end is up.
So which end _is_ up, oh honorable anonymous one?
February 10th, 2007 at 12:58 pmCannot one single person who’s part of this administration step up to the plate and tell the f**king truth just ONE time?
…
February 10th, 2007 at 1:00 pmGo Team Terror!
Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 10, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
got that right, pal
February 10th, 2007 at 1:13 pmHow can American be #1 when all its leaders are #2? This country needs a political enema!
February 10th, 2007 at 1:15 pmCannot one single person who’s part of this administration step up to the plate and tell the f**king truth just ONE time?
…
Comment by Ranger Jay — February 10, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Not until the people in this country finally hold them accountable for their lies. It is simply not profitable!
February 10th, 2007 at 1:17 pm> Here is a simple question that any script kiddy could answer:
> What is my IP Address?
Spudge, that is not possible except if the skiddie is at TP’s server…
But as long as we’re talking ‘authentication’, here’s another cool way to mark posts (if it hasn’t been patented yet that is) - with pictograms that are derived from the IP address:
http://www.docuverse.com/ blog/ donpark/ 2007/ 01/ 18/ visual-security-9-block-ip-identification
February 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pmSo, we gave them weapons and funded them fo ra long time.
Go Team Terror!
– Spudge_Boy
No kidding.
It is astounding that they did not secure all the ammo dumps and known storage areas. Since they were supposed to be after the elusive WMDs, it does not make sense that they secured the OIL first. That is unless oil was the sole reason they invaded and already knew there were no WMDs.
in a non-bizarro world, they should have secured or blown all ammo dumps, what actually did makes no sense to me at all.
From a strategic standpoint, we lost the occupationand reconstruction at the same time we won the war itself.
Some really stupid f*ckwad was directing operations there, thats plain to see.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:18 pmNope, I still think it was funny. Funny is funny, crazy is crazy. THe other day you were funny, today you are crazy.
Comment by Fudge_Packer_Boy — February 10, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
Your prejudice is showing through your natra.
You are a TWO FACED PUNK.
Just admit what everyone here already knows, punk.
Your loyalties are as the wind blows. You go wherever the best “deal” is.
Two faces of a coward you are. My joke WAS NOT funny the INSTANT you found out it was me, Rachel Kinnardi.
Wayne and Uncle_Ho thought it was funny too.
At least they are loyal to themselves.
You are not.
Fudge_Packer_Boy : ” OMG! that was Rachel?
” It isn`t funny anymore ”
Now THAT is transparent.
Also I will not reveal anything I know publivly about any one of you such as an IP address.
What if someone is stalking you? It would be my fault for revealing this and I would get into REAL trouble with the authorities.
Nice try to trick me into posting IP addies, but I aint exactly stupid.
A good hacker never reveals what he knows about a particular individual or a particular site.
A good hacker takes what they need to accomplish the task QUIETLY and without notice, and then leaves the same way, QUIETLY and without notice.
I have all I need from thius siter and it`s posters.
Now TP? Can we go to registration now? I have a few programs I wrote and a few that I have had for years, I need to try these programs out on your registration process.
I hold the distinction of NEVER being locked out of ANYWHERE on the internet. I am very, very proud of my achievements.
I surely do not think this site of all the secure sites I have posted at will ever be the first to keep me out.
That will be an awful hard sell for sure.
I think it is MORE INTERESTING from my viewpoint in having a registration process. It all just….just…..
WORKS so well with the programs I have developed to get by those pesky requirements.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:24 pmSpudge, that is not possible except if the skiddie is at TP’s server…
Comment by El Tonno — February 10, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Hmmm…. That`s funny.
I have been at the TP server for months now.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:26 pmha.
Spudge, that is not possible except if the skiddie is at TP’s server…
Comment by El Tonno — February 10, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Hmmm…. That`s funny.
I have been at the TP server for months now.
ha.
…………………..
And it was and still is VERY SIMPLE to get there.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:27 pmVerbal,
Fine, don’t assess anything I and simply brand it to be false. Go find any of the articles hyping an upcoming attack on Iran and you’ll see one of the following people always cited: Sam Gardiner, Vince Cannistraro, Philip Giraldi, Scott Ritter, or other members of VIPS. I’ve done the research. You’re just sitting there and saying, “No.” That doesn’t sound reflected to me. These same people have been hyping this for TWO YEARS, and you guys still fall for it - every single time. 6 months from now, I’ll tell you I told you so.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:40 pm“… No one is that afraid of this bunch of twisted perverts, anymore…..”
Wrong!! I’m very afraid of “this bunch”. They are oblivious of any opposition to their policies. They operate on the principle of “fait accompli” and believe that they can get enough backers who will proclaim that,although the act was wrong,we now must support it because we must win. If only to save face.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:51 pmSeixon is inventing artificial boundaries and ground rules for the debate. If any information pertaining to or suggestive of an attack on Iran didn’t come from an article that cites someone on his list, it doesn’t exist.
February 10th, 2007 at 1:56 pmChanging your name at a web site that doesn’t use registration is not hacking dip wad. —- Spudge_Boy
hehehe
Hey rachel, try hacking into 127.0.0.1, then prove you were there by deleting some of the files that end in .sys
February 10th, 2007 at 1:56 pmLet me know how that works for you.
I should also add that, according to Seixon’s artificial ground rules, anything those particular sources say about an impending attack on Iran can neither be independently corroborated, nor reasoned out independently using logic.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:01 pmVince Cannistraro, a former chief of operations for counterterrorism with the CIA who is now a consultant for ABCNEWS, said federal authorities’ interest in the case was heightened when some of the men’s names were found in a search of a national intelligence database.
Israeli Intelligence Connection?
According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence. Cannistraro said there was speculation as to whether Urban Moving had been “set up or exploited for the purpose of launching an intelligence operation against radical Islamists in the area, particularly in the New Jersey-New York area.”
According to ABC’s 20/20, when the van belonging to the cheering Israelis was stopped by the police, the driver of the van, Sivan Kurzberg, told the officers:
“We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem.”
According to ABCNEWS sources, Israeli and U.S. government officials worked out a deal — and after 71 days, the five Israelis were taken out of jail, put on a plane, and deported back home.
The men all underwent at least two polygraph tests each, the lawyer added. He said one of the Israelis took the test seven times, a very unusual total according to several polygraph experts interviewed by the Forward. All failed their tests.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/Artstudents.htm
http://killtown.blogspot.com/ 2005/ 11/ dancing-israelis-on-911.html
February 10th, 2007 at 2:02 pmSeixon is inventing artificial boundaries and ground rules for the debate. — VerbalKint
Noticed that.
Next he will try to add, that we shouldn’t discuss it because it will embolden the terrorists.
Counting in Friedmans again with your “I’ll tell you I told you so’s” Seixon?
Your previous “i told you so’s” haven’t panned out yet, so I don’t take much stock in this one.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:04 pmWe always focus on cooked intelligence about Iraq, but never about cooked intelligence involving Al Qeada or Osama bin Laden. We never seem to question the intelligence surrounding 9/11 or information in the 9/11 Commission Report.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:04 pm#74 I have been at the TP server for months now.
ha.
Comment by rachel kinnardi
GEE! And I thought all this time you were sucking at the Repug Master Server, where all the talking points are issued for the trolls to regurgitate.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:13 pmDon’t you just love Lieberman…. my God…CT shame on you for putting this idiot back into the Senate..
February 10th, 2007 at 2:21 pmOh yeah… Russia is sending the warnings…they have the wisdom to see through the Bush administratons repeated continued lies. Red and corporate America - we invade Iran FOR NO REASON we are so screwed. And let Israel take care of herself. It is time to start focusing on America, not Bush’s folly.
#37 “low quality troll alert” - isn’t that redundant? Thanks though.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:38 pmLiberman needs to move to Isreal where he belongs, and take The Lobby with him.
February 10th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#73
Fudge_Packer_Boy is a Two Faced Punk
I second that emotion!
Hey Fudge_Packer_Boy is a Two Faced Punk , when will we read your email together again?
It was fun about the last 87 times you have opened your email account since I began monitoring your machine.
I must say, you have alot of noninteresting and downright gross items on your hard drive.
Such as preteen porn.
I could report you and you would definitely go to jail for awhile
Is this what you want?
Or should I post some items that I found in your email inbox?
February 10th, 2007 at 3:08 pmSpudge,
Once again Seixon, we don’t have to read articles to see what is going on. All you have to do is listen to anybody in the Bush cabal talk. No need for opinion pieces or editorials. Just listen to the speech or read the transcript.
So we’re about to attack North Korea then too, or what? The Bush administration should not note for us that, just like the NIE on Iraq said, Iranians are providing lethal support for local Shiite militias?
Wayne,
Your previous “i told you so’s†haven’t panned out yet, so I don’t take much stock in this one.
And which would those be?
Verbal,
I should also add that, according to Seixon’s artificial ground rules, anything those particular sources say about an impending attack on Iran can neither be independently corroborated, nor reasoned out independently using logic.
So you find nothing strange about the fact that most, if not all, of the articles suggesting that the Bush administration is going to attack Iran have come from this small group of people who keep peddling it? You find nothing strange in the fact that these same people were completely wrong back in 2005 and 2006? I mean, come on, Ritter even claimed that Bush had signed off on plans to attack Iran in June 2005. Ooops. Now he’s written a book saying that it will happen some time before Bush is done as president.
I guess we’ll have to wait until January 2009 for you guys to get a clue on what a propaganda operation is.
You’re all apparently unable to see that the reason for these stories is to get people such as yourselves to have your own suspicions and hatred of the president “verified”. They need you to fear a Bush attack on Iran for purely political reasons. And by George, it’s working brilliantly.
None of you even realize that they’ve been stringing you along on this exact storyline for 2 years now.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:12 pm“The fool chatters, whilst the wise man listens.”
February 10th, 2007 at 3:13 pmstill to drunk to drive to calss, but did it anyway.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
calss?
Obviously you have never set foot inside such a place.
Project much Two Faced Fudge_Packer_Boy?
I will call you E.L. FudegPacker on occasion also.
Like the Keebler elf you know?
Very funny indeed.!!
Bwahahaha.
Now well, it`s back to your email account. I have so many other posters email accounts to catch up on today.
I am so busy today, the weekends are always the busiest for email snooping.
Don`t surf anywhere I wouldn`t E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy
Wh do you think gang? Should I report E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy
February 10th, 2007 at 3:14 pmto the federal authorities? They love to make examples outta worms like him.
I can read yours and most everyones mail here,
“Gates’ remarks left unclear how the U.S. knows the serial numbers are traceable to Iran and whether such weapons would have been sent to Iraq by the Iranian government or by private arms dealers.”
I wonder how many weapons, explosives, etc. they’ve found that had U.S. markings on them. Let’s not forget the massive weapons depots that were left unprotected following the invasion…because those doing the searching were looking for WMD and literally ignored the conventional weapons they found. As a result, there was tremendous looting of those depots.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:17 pm92 Seixon,
None of you even realize that they’ve been stringing you along on this exact storyline for 2 years now.
Comment by Seixon — February 10, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Spot on and an excellent post. It is refreshing to see someone here who still thinks clearly.
IE; Non brainwashed.
These people are being played and whored out by the liberal media.
And just look at them, like a school of munchkins headed for the mother ship.
They certainly are what they are, in spite of themselves and that is downright pathetic to the rest of us true Americans.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:18 pmHating Muslims does not make you patriotic or keep America safe.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:21 pmJimmy Carter is right.
“Gates’ remarks left unclear how the U.S. knows the serial numbers are traceable to Iran and whether such weapons would have been sent to Iraq by the Iranian government or by private arms dealers.â€
Well now if Gates made it KNOWN, then the terrorists would cover that track too now wouldn`t they you dumbfu*k!
Are you from this fu*king planet even?
Listen to yourself, it should read:
-Let`s publicly announce how we know exactly where these weapons originated from and how they got to where they are going-
Get a fu*king clue you Iranian mullah supporter!
February 10th, 2007 at 3:29 pmSpudge_Boy = E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy
PLEASE IGNORE THIS TROLL!
February 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pmDO NOT FEED THE TROLL!
I can read yours and most everyones mail here,
Comment by Fudge_Packer_Boy has a nickname, it is E.L. Fudge — February 10, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Prove it, or piss-off.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm#98 is for impeachcheneythenbush .
A real asswipe of the first order.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:37 pm#95 I’m sure plenty of the weapons have our insignias on them…..BCCI was busted in 1991 and ten million in State Dept. accounts was discovered. John Kerry’s investigation into these sick trysts caved to political pressure from Sen. Claiborne Pell (D-RI). To date no major players were ever apprehended, censured, prosecuted or sentenced for the genocidal, narcotics-traficking, lucrative top crime of our time and many of those involved returned to power in 2001. It’s time to reopen this investigation into arms for heroine and cocaine and get to the bottom of this sick pit. The reason the warning of 14 countries against impending attacks was never investigated was because of Dubya’s connection to all of this stench which would be uncovered if it were investigated.
The people need to know the truth about Mafouz and Salem bin Laden and their relationship to GWB as investors in his company, Arbusto Energy, Bush’s first oil company (Mafouz later became the major shareholder in BCCI). Mahfouz then brokered a deal to help GWB unload his Harken Energy stock.
Mahfouz was then branded by a report to the UN Security Council as one of the seven top Saudi Al Qaeda money men….
Now this is a very interesting and compelling association of GWB….what strange “bedfellows”, indeed?
This investigation needs to be reopened by this Congress; in fact, they are now duty-bound to do so.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:37 pmThe same Robert Gates damn near went to prison for his “fixing of intelligence” in the Iran Contra debacle of Bush #41~! The leopard never changes his spots - and Robert Gates is a liar from way back….once a liar - always a liar!
February 10th, 2007 at 3:39 pmBush administration has lost all credibility with the American people and with the internatinal community.
Comment by Chris — February 10, 2007 @ 10:51 am
You sound exactly like John ” Swifty ” Kerry.
That drumbeat mantra is so old and dated it isn`t even funny anymore.
Any other one liners to share?
February 10th, 2007 at 3:40 pmI can read yours and most everyones mail here,
Comment by Fudge_Packer_Boy has a nickname, it is E.L. Fudge — February 10, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Prove it.
Tell me my first name. That won’t get you in trouble, because I just gave you my permission, and because it won’t harm me (therefore it’s not a liable offense).
February 10th, 2007 at 3:41 pmPLEASE IGNORE THIS TROLL!
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL!
Comment by rachel kinnardi — February 10, 2007 @ 3:36 pm
Rachel was for herself before she was against herself. LOL
February 10th, 2007 at 3:42 pmThe incriminating “dots” which will indict this administration of smoke and mirrors are out there and can easily be connected. Pressure needs to be applied to this congress to bring about justice to the american people for this total breach of trust by the highest officials in this administration…..beginning with lying Cheney - whose bogus bullcrap is front and center in the Libby trial. I can’t believe he’s still in office to tell you the truth. Anyone with morality and a conscience would slink away from the stench he created (maybe Dickhead Cheney is reponsible for global warming - he’s certainly an airbag!) with his tail between his legs.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:42 pmI can read yours and most everyones mail here,
Comment by Fudge_Packer_Boy has a nickname, it is E.L. Fudge — February 10, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
If you aren`t doing anything wrong then I suppose you have nothing to worry about right?
Just like NSA surveillance.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:42 pmSo we’re about to attack North Korea then too, or what? The Bush administration should not note for us that, just like the NIE on Iraq said, Iranians are providing lethal support for local Shiite militias?
Comment by Seixon — February 10, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
-These same people predicted that the Bush administration would attack and invade Iraq but I was a skeptical and thought that the Bush administration wasn’t that stupid. Boy was I wrong.
-The president can note anything he wants to. The Congress just has to make sure that this is not some sort of a Feith based initiative by the administration to attack Iran and they have to make sure that there is no other intelligence that counters the claim. The administration is willing to lie so they have to be careful.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:45 pm“One of the lawmakers, independent Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, said he has seen some of the evidence, though he would not be specific. “I’m convinced from what I’ve seen that the Iranians are supplying and are giving assistance to the people in Iraq who are killing American soldiers,” said Lieberman, who was attending an international security conference in Munich.”
Well, if Joe LIEberman saw it, it must be true. What a putz! Seriously now, that is going to be the warmongers’ meme for the next few months: “Iranians are helping Iraqis kill Americans”. I don’t care if the 28%ers swallow it whole, but I worry that some other people will be swayed by this argument. We need to write to Reid and Pelosi and demand that Congress expressly prevents Bush from attacking Iran. We also must demand that both Cheney and Bush be impeached. We cannot afford to allow the Cheney/Bush/Neo-con cabal to drag us into another disastrous war.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmProve it.
Tell me my first name. That won’t get you in trouble, because I just gave you my permission, and because it won’t harm me (therefore it’s not a liable offense).
Comment by unbelievable
I do not trust you or anyone here.
Why would I do something as foolish as that?
I am a hacker. I take what I need and leave ” silently ”
A silent entrance, and once attained, an entrance, a silent exit.
Let`s just say I have access to your hard drive and ANY email account generated on that machine is like me opening up my own inbox.
I have approximately 95% of the posters email accounts at my direct disposal.
Including yours.
The only way to TEMPORARILY be rid of me is to
a) get a new hard drive
b) get a whole new computer
a or b will do you no good. I will be back in within 24 hours.
Actually pretty simple really.
Happy surfing!
Should I report E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy for the preteen kiddy porn I have witnessed on his hard drive or not?
I am like a queen bee here at TP.
You all work for me.
Through your computers of course.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:49 pmNo telling what kind of email has been sent out in your or anyone elses name at this site.
If you aren`t doing anything wrong then I suppose you have nothing to worry about right?
Comment by rachel kinnardi
And I see you’ve been busted, AS USUAL, by Spudge’s comment in #109.
How predictably pathetic.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI do not trust you or anyone here.
Why would I do something as foolish as that?
Comment by rachel kinnardi is queenbee — February 10, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
You don’t have to trust me, just read the law. You’re only in violation of privacy if it causes me harm. Posting my first name causes me no harm, because no one can do anything with it.
As I figured, you are lying. You cannot do what you say. It’s why you have no credibility and are routinely laughed at by people who you cannot scare.
Go away now. You’re done here.
February 10th, 2007 at 3:57 pmLet`s just say I have access to your hard drive and ANY email account generated on that machine is like me opening up my own inbox.
Comment by rachel kinnardi is queenbee — February 10, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
What email account do I use?
February 10th, 2007 at 3:59 pm#109?
You mean E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy?
Perfectly harmless when you can hold founded child porn evidence over his head.
He is perfectly contained. Although his penchant for young preteen boys is very alarming!
February 10th, 2007 at 4:03 pm#109?
You mean E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy?
Perfectly harmless when you can hold founded child porn evidence over his head.
He is perfectly contained. Although his penchant for young preteen boys is very alarming!
Well, back to reading my, er uh, your mail now.
Don`t surf anywhere I wouldn`t!
chuckles.
February 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pm116-117 is for shake and bake.
Like we do to Muslims with our bombs you know?
Shake em then bake em.
chuckles.
February 10th, 2007 at 4:07 pmLook rachel,
We can hi-jack your name too! This is your idea of being a hacker! What are you, in 3rd grade or something?
Oops, gotta go clean up all this blood in my crotch…
February 10th, 2007 at 4:08 pm116-117 is for shake and bake.
Comment by E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy aka Rachel Kinnardi — February 10, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
No, it’s for you.
February 10th, 2007 at 4:10 pm116-117 is for shake and bake.
Like we do to Muslims with our bombs you know?
Shake em then bake em.
chuckles.
Comment by E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy aka Rachel Kinnardi — February 10, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
I wouln’t expect you to begin to understand my screen name, dork.
And for such a self-proclaimed “hacker”, you’re too stupid to wait for your post to appear before you RE-POST the same sh*t? Once again, how pathetic.
February 10th, 2007 at 4:11 pmLiebermann is a disgusting POS. He is masquerading as an Independent Democrat while serving not only the Republiscum party but the neo-cons as well.
February 10th, 2007 at 4:26 pmHe was shown the intelligence and he approves. Who cares? Will anyone trust his word any more? Even those to whom he pledges allegiance - who just use him because he is their patsy?
Connecticut, you really screwed the nation with that one.
Sexion: “But hey, if you want to be like Scott Ritter and continue to believe in something that just never gets around to happening, be my guest. They’ve been peddling this script since early 2005. You’d think someone would have figured out the bluff by now. Guess not.”
Scott Ritter? Isn’t he the guy who was right all along about Iraq? I think I’ll continue to pay attention to what Scott Ritter says, if you don’t mind.
The strangest thing about this Bush cultist named Sexion is that he continues to act as if he was right all along. Today’s conservatives are just f*cking crazy!
February 10th, 2007 at 4:41 pm> Today’s conservatives are just f*cking crazy!
I can second that but we can we please get those moronic wannabe haXX0rs with inferiority complexes bigger than the Prez’ himself off the board?
“Parents: It’s 4:50 pm. Do you know that your kid is posting bull at thinkprogress.org?”
February 10th, 2007 at 5:34 pm124 - rachel kinnardi,
February 10th, 2007 at 5:48 pmNo problem for single cell organisms. Have at it.
pass this along to everyone you know. Send it to the media and ask why they’re not covering the following (or why they only devote 25 seconds to it at best):
THE PENTAGON HAS BEEN SELLING MILITARY PARTS AND EQUIPMENT TO IRAN
(and China)
1/16/07
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. military has sold forbidden equipment at least a half-dozen times to middlemen for countries — including Iran and China — who exploited security flaws in the Defense Department’s surplus auctions. The sales include fighter jet parts and missile components.
In one case, federal investigators said, the contraband made it to Iran, a country President Bush branded part of an “axis of evil.”
In that instance, a Pakistani arms broker convicted of exporting U.S. missile parts to Iran resumed business after his release from prison. He purchased Chinook helicopter engine parts for Iran from a U.S. company that had bought them in a Pentagon surplus sale. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, speaking on condition of anonymity, say those parts made it to Iran.
The surplus sales can operate like a supermarket for arms dealers.
“Right Item, Right Time, Right Place, Right Price, Every Time. Best Value Solutions for America’s Warfighters,” the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service says on its website, calling itself “the place to obtain original U.S. Government surplus property.”
Federal investigators are increasingly anxious that Iran is within easy reach of a top priority on its shopping list: parts for the precious fleet of F-14 “Tomcat” fighter jets the United States let Iran buy in the 1970s when it was an ally.
In one case, convicted middlemen for Iran bought Tomcat parts from the Defense Department’s surplus division. Customs agents confiscated them and returned them to the Pentagon, which sold them again — customs evidence tags still attached — to another buyer, a suspected broker for Iran.
That incident appalled even an expert on weaknesses in Pentagon surplus security controls.
“That would be evidence of a significant breakdown, in my view, in controls and processes,” said Greg Kutz, the Government Accountability Office’s head of special investigations. “It shouldn’t happen the first time, let alone the second time.”
…The GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, found it alarmingly easy to acquire sensitive surplus. Last year, its agents bought $1.1 million worth — including rocket launchers, body armor and surveillance antennas — by driving onto a base and posing as defense contractors.
“They helped us load our van,” Kutz said. Investigators used a fake identity to access a surplus website operated by a Pentagon contractor and bought still more, including a dozen microcircuits used on F-14 fighters.
The undercover buyers received phone calls from the Defense Department asking why they had no Social Security number or credit history, but they deflected the questions by presenting a phony utility bill and claiming to be an identity theft victim.
more:
February 10th, 2007 at 5:52 pmhttp://www.usatoday.com/ news/ washington/ 2007-01-16-army-gear_x.htm
continued…
AL QAEDA COLORS
U.S. DEBATE OVER IRAN
- Planned White House diplomatic offensive against Tehran could prompt it to free terror suspects in its custody, some American officials fear.
Saturday, February 10, 2007; Page A01
Last week, the CIA sent an urgent report to President Bush’s National Security Council: Iranian authorities had arrested two al-Qaeda operatives traveling through Iran on their way from Pakistan to Iraq. The suspects were caught along a well-worn, if little-noticed, route for militants determined to fight U.S. troops on Iraqi soil, according to a senior intelligence official.
The arrests were presented to Bush’s senior policy advisers as evidence that Iran appears committed to stopping al-Qaeda foot traffic across its borders, the intelligence official said. That assessment comes at a time when the Bush administration, in an effort to push for further U.N. sanctions on the Islamic republic, is preparing to publicly accuse Tehran of cooperating with and harboring al-Qaeda suspects.
…The strategy has sparked a growing debate within the administration and the intelligence community, according to U.S. intelligence and government officials. One faction is pressing for more economic embargoes against Iran, including asset freezes and travel bans for the country’s top leaders. But several senior intelligence and counterterrorism officials worry that a public push regarding the al-Qaeda suspects held in Iran could jeopardize U.S. intelligence-gathering and prompt the Iranians to free some of the most wanted individuals.
…Bush has given the U.S. military the authority to kill or capture Iranian government agents working with Shiite militias inside Iraq. Yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said serial numbers and markings on some explosives used in Iraq indicate that the material came from Iran, but HE OFFERED NO EVIDENCE.
…Since al-Qaeda fighters began streaming into Iran from Afghanistan in the winter of 2001, Tehran had turned over hundreds of people to U.S. allies and provided U.S. intelligence with the names, photographs and fingerprints of those it held in custody, according to senior U.S. intelligence and administration officials. In early 2003, it offered to hand over the remaining high-value targets directly to the United States.
Since al-Qaeda fighters began streaming into Iran from Afghanistan in the winter of 2001, Tehran had turned over hundreds of people to U.S. allies and provided U.S. intelligence with the names, photographs and fingerprints of those it held in custody, according to senior U.S. intelligence and administration officials. In early 2003, it offered to hand over the remaining high-value targets directly to the United States.
more:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 02/ 09/ AR2007020902294.html
February 10th, 2007 at 5:54 pmcontinued…
MOST AMERICANS FAVOR IRAN NEGOTIATIONS
(including most Republicans)
The American people’s preference continues to be for the United Nations - not the United States - to take the lead in dealing with Iran’s nuclear program. Fully 70% favor the U.N. taking a lead role, which is comparable to the number expressing that opinion in May (72%) and February (78%).
The American public is amenable to the idea of direct negotiations with Iran over the issue of its nuclear program. A majority favors such negotiations, while just 32% are opposed. Among those who say they have heard a lot about Iran’s nuclear program, an even larger majority (64%) favors direct negotiations with Tehran.
6 in 10 Republicans say they favor the U.S. negotiating directly with Iran over the issue of its nuclear program.
http://people-press.org/ reports/ display.php3?ReportID=289
A SIZEABLE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AGREE WITH THE IRAQ STUDY GROUP THAT THE U.S. SHOULD NEGOTIATE DIRECTLY WITH IRAN AND SYRIA
The majority of Americans also support reducing U.S. financial support if Iraq fails to make enough progress.
The public’s discontent with the war has grown even since last month’s congressional elections, when voters tossed out Republican majorities in favor of Democrats critical of Bush’s leadership in Iraq. Bush’s approval rating now stands at 36%, down four points from before the elections and the second-worst of his presidency. Bush now has the 2nd lowest-ever approval rating for his handling of Iraq, 28%.
The majority of Americans support talking with Syria and Iran to try to resolve the conflict.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2006/ 12/ 12/ AR2006121200278.html
February 10th, 2007 at 5:59 pmcontinued….
GEORGE W. BUSH IS CONSIDERED A BIGGER DANGER TO WORLD PEACE THAN IRANIAN PRESIDENT-AHMADINEJAD, NORTH KOREAN LEADER-KIM JONG IL AND HEZBOLLAH’S-HASSAN NASRALLAH
The U.S. is seen as a threat to world peace by its closest neighbors and allies.
British voters see George Bush as a greater danger to world peace than North Korean leader Kim Jong-il or Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Both countries were once cited by Mr Bush as part of an “axis of evil” but it is Mr Bush who now alarms voters in countries with traditionally strong links to the US.
In Britain, 69% cent of those questioned said they believed US policy has made the world less safe since 2001. Only 7% thought action in Iraq and Afghanistan had improved global security.
Those who are considered the biggest threat to Global Security/World Peace
87% say Osama bin Laden
(who Bush allows to remain a free man and disbanded the Unit dedicated to finding him)
75% say George W Bush
69% say Kim Jong-il
65% say Hassan Nasrallah
62% say Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran.
IN ISRAEL, ONLY 1 IN 4 SAY THAT MR. BUSH HAS MADE THE WORLD SAFER. Voters in 3 of the 4 countries overwhelmingly rejected the decision to invade Iraq.71% say the invasion of Iraq was not justified.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ frontpage/ story/ 0,,1938433,00.html
(I should note that I rarely, if ever, post mulitple news stories like this. However, Mr. Dishonest, Incompetent, Corrupt, Crony-loving Bush is getting us involved in yet another pre-emptive war based on cooked intelligence and false claims. The TV networks and Cable News are largely ignoring all of the above. It’s time for the men in the white coats to go in and get Bush. He’s a dangerous mad man who needs to be taken out of power. The very thing he says about his own designated enemies)
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February 10th, 2007 at 6:02 pmDoes anyone have any twink or preteen sex videos for sale or trade?
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February 10th, 2007 at 6:18 pmGood posts Paige PbD
February 10th, 2007 at 6:57 pmBoy and I am pissed off. I’ve had enough of this crap from the NYTimes
I just sent this email to the President and Publisher of the NYTimes
“I have just read the article in Editor and Publisher, linked to below, about Michael Gordon’s poorly sourced and inflamatory article claiming Iran is supplying weapons to kill our soldiers in Iraq.
I feel compelled to write to you and express my outrage at Michael Gordon and his article. My son is military age and I have been against the Iraq war from day one. Thanks to your newspaper and other corporate media, my son’s life, my life, and the economy and safety of this country has been seriously jeopardized due in part to the false and misleading statements passed off as news by your newspaper in the lead up to the Iraq war.
It was this same Michael Gordon, along with Judith Miller, who authored many spurious and inflammatory articles that helped fuel the flames of war fever prior to the illegal invasion of Iraq.
And here Michael Gordon goes again, and you publish it on your front page, helping to drag us into yet another illegal war.
As a taxpaying, patriotic, freedom-loving parent, I must say I am thoroughly disgusted with your organization. And I feel strongly that should President Bush in deed attack Iran, and our economy and safety are devastated as a result, that your organization should be held partly responsible for the death and destruction that will surely ensue.
What you are doing is despicable, shameful, and unpatriotic. You are helping to sell out our young and our security, for money. Shame on you.
Stop reporting propaganda as news. Start acting like journalists, and ask the hard questions. And start sourcing your articles. Find the courage to become journalists and not just shills for an immoral administration. “
February 10th, 2007 at 7:00 pmDoes anyone have any twink or preteen sex videos for sale or trade?
My present collection is boring the hell out of me. Trades and cash?
I prefer young boy videos age 4-8 is my age range. Anyone?
I like to seduce them with Fudge Stripe cookies by Keebler.
Hence my name, E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy. I like to play the role of E.L. Fudge, the Keebler elf.
The boys get transfixed with what I say and this is when I make my move.
Email me about your offers.
E.L. Fudge_Packer_Boy
February 10th, 2007 at 7:16 pmCounterPunch also has an article on the same topic http://www.counterpunch.org/. THe article quotes Colonel Sam Gardner, who taught at the National War College recently sketched out the plan http://www.counterpunch.org/gardiner01162007.html as it could unfold:
“First, we know there is a National Security Council staff-led_group whose mission is to create outrage in the world against Iran. Just like before Gulf II, this media group will begin to release stories to sell a strike against Iran. Watch for the outrage stuff.”
As regards “the outrage stuff”, here on cue comes the New York Times’ Michael Gordon with a front page story today, February 10, headlined “Deadliest Bomb in Iraq is Made by Iran, US Says”, and beginning “The most lethal weapon directed against American troops in Iraq is an explosive-packed cylinder that United States intelligence asserts is being supplied by Iran.”
http://www.counterpunch.org/
February 10th, 2007 at 8:01 pm