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Deputy President Cheney.

By Nico Pitney on Feb 11th, 2007 at 10:35 pm

Deputy President Cheney.

The AP on lessons of the Libby trial: “‘What didn’t he touch? It’s almost like there was almost nothing too trivial for the vice president to handle,’ said New York University professor Paul Light, an expert in the bureaucracy of the executive branch. ‘The details suggest Cheney was almost a deputy president with a shadow operation. He had his own source of advice. He had his own source of access. He was making his own decisions,’ Light said.”



35 Responses to “Deputy President Cheney.”

  1. Jay Randal says:

    Dick Cheney is the shadow president. George Bush is only his puppet.


  2. cakewalk my ass says:

    why is this news? cheney is the puppet-master. so what?


  3. Barfly says:

    why is this news?

    Because Cheney is testifying soon.


  4. Rider says:

    Dr. Evil and Mini Me!


  5. Pinko says:

    Cheney will testify and the American people will know about the shadow operation that Cheney took part in.


  6. TripMaster Monkey says:

    Sounds like Cheney has made a habit of assuming authority rightly belonging only to Chimpy.

    Subverting the chain of command is an impeachable offense, I believe…just one more reason.


  7. Jay Randal says:

    scully: you are just making yourself look stupid on here. Go to some other blog site to play your silly spam posting game.


  8. Pinko says:

    I am going to report Scully to TP. This is completely ridiculous. You cannot talk on any of these threads because of this nutty troll who must be on drugs or something.


  9. Barfly says:

    Cheney styles himself a master debater (quit snickering), and he’ll soon get a chance to show his chops against Fitz. My money is on Fitz.


  10. prostratedragon says:

    Ahhh, yes … mature, pertinent, …

    But as commenter #6 said, it’s one thing to get the President to do everything you whisper into his ear. That’s bad, but not necessarily a case you can bring as a practical matter.

    Setting up your own shop and bypassing the legally mandated lines of authority is another. That’s a case you can bring, using things like paper trails that ought to be subpoena-able. Partly as a result of the LIbby trial, also that IG report on Feith’s operation, the existence of this shop, and Cheney’s “belief” (the schmo knows better, of course) that he has powers separate from the President, are now out in the open.


  11. Rachel Does wonders for its party NOT says:

    Nobody will ever vote Republican again after I’m done!!!


  12. Briseadh na Faire says:

    From an email:

    Thirty-Six Sure-Fire Signs That Your Empire Is Crumbling

    by David Michael Green

    So. You’ve built yourself an empire, eh?

    Well, bully for you!

    What’s next, you ask? Well, now you’ve got to do what everybody does when they have an empire, of course. You’ve got to worry about it falling apart, mate!

    But how to tell for sure? Let me see if I can be helpful. Here are some rules of thumb to keep in mind, thirty-six sure-fire indicators that your empire is falling apart:

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the folks who are gearing up their empire to replace yours start blowing up satellites in space. And then they don’t bother to return your phone calls when you ring up to ask why.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when those same folks are cutting deals left, right and center across Asia, Latin America and Africa, while you, your lousy terms, and your arrogant attitude are no longer welcome.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending your grandchildren’s money like a drunken sailor, and letting your soon-to-be rivals finance your little splurge (i.e., letting them own your country).

    You know your empire’s crumbling when it’s considered an achievement to pretend that you’ve halved the rate at which you’re adding to the massive mountain of debt you’ve already accumulated.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you weaken your currency until it looks as anemic as a Paris runway model, and you’re still setting record trade deficits. (Hint: Because you’re not making anything anymore.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when “the little brown ones” (thank you George H.W. Bush – certainly not me – for that lovely expression) in country after country of “your backyard” blow you off and proudly elect anti-imperialist leftist governments.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t topple those governments and replace them with nice puppet regimes – like in the good old days – even if you wanted to. And you badly want to.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of their leaders comes to the United Nations and makes fun of your emperor, calling him the devil, and joking about smelling sulphur where he just stood. And though a few folks cringe, everybody laughs.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when just about your entire military land force is tied up in a worse-than-useless war launched on the basis of complete fabrications, that every day is actually making you less – not more – secure from external threat.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when almost half the soldiers in that war are high-paid mercenaries, and you don’t dare institute a draft.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you send soldiers into war with two weeks training and a lack of armor, and then you keep them there for three, four and five rotations.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a member of the Axis of Evil can test missiles and explode nuclear warheads, and all you can do about it is mumble some pathetic warnings about how they better not do that again or there will be consequences.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you even think that there is an Axis of Evil.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a rag-tag military hodge-podge of irregulars has you pinned down in an endless fight you can’t win, but also can’t lose.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re too dumb to even ban Humvees as a first step toward ending your dependency on a foreign-owned crucial resource.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you trade your prior moral leadership on human rights issues for global disgust at your torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ (a.k.a. kidnaping for torture) and the dismantling of nine centuries worth of civil liberties progress.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you blow off international law that you once helped create, and undermine the institutions of international governance that you once helped build.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when opinion polls confirm that every month you’re more and more despised throughout the world.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t even pull off the hanging of a tin-pot murderous former dictator without turning him into a hero.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re the richest country in the world, but nearly 50 million of your people don’t have basic health care coverage.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the World Health Organization ranks your healthcare system 37th ‘best’ in the world, just above Slovenia, and just below Costa Rica. (And far below Colombia, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia and Morocco.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when instead of making it easier for citizens to obtain a higher education, you’re making it harder and more expensive.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your government gives tax breaks to industries as a reward for exporting your jobs elsewhere.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the so-called ‘opposition’ party can’t even turn that obscenity into a viable campaign theme and use it to clobber the worst emperor in your history.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your middle class has been stagnant for three decades, while the wealth of the hyper-rich continues to climb through the roof.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your reaction to that is to exacerbate the problem by enacting tax policies that massively increase further still the gap between the rich and the rest.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the predatory class has taken over your government and is stripping the country of everything not bolted down to the floor. And then it sells the floor itself, as well, to your rivals.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending tens of billions of dollars you don’t own on new nuclear warheads and space weapons that don’t work, to be used against an enemy you don’t have.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of your cities drowns and your government does next to nothing before, during and after.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a massive environmental nightmare is looming around the corner, and your emperor not only ignores it, but claims it isn’t real while taking steps to exacerbate it.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your emperor is warned by a CIA briefer of an imminent terrorist attack of vast proportions, and responds by remaining on vacation and dismissing the briefer with the words: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the same emperor drops everything to fly across the country from his vacation home in order to sign a bill intervening on the wrong side of a personal medical drama involving a single family.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when gays and immigrants are used as diversionary issues to keep people from thinking about the pillaging of their country and their wallets actually taking place. And it works.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when people are getting more religious and less scientific, not the other way around.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your political leaders start to be chosen by dynastic rules of succession.

    And you especially know your empire’s crumbling when the most idiotic child of one of the least accomplished leaders in its history is not only crowned as the next emperor, but is even revered for a time by most of the public as a great one.

    Rome? Britain? Spain?

    At this rate we’ll be lucky to end up like Belgium.

    Editor’s Note: David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers’ reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website, http://www.regressiveantidote.net.


  13. IIIVVIIIIVVIIIIVIIVIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIIVIIVIVIVIVIIIIVVIVIIIVIIIV says:

    From an email:

    Thirty-Six Sure-Fire Signs That Your Empire Is Crumbling

    by David Michael Green

    So. You’ve built yourself an empire, eh?

    Well, bully for you!

    What’s next, you ask? Well, now you’ve got to do what everybody does when they have an empire, of course. You’ve got to worry about it falling apart, mate!

    But how to tell for sure? Let me see if I can be helpful. Here are some rules of thumb to keep in mind, thirty-six sure-fire indicators that your empire is falling apart:

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the folks who are gearing up their empire to replace yours start blowing up satellites in space. And then they don’t bother to return your phone calls when you ring up to ask why.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when those same folks are cutting deals left, right and center across Asia, Latin America and Africa, while you, your lousy terms, and your arrogant attitude are no longer welcome.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending your grandchildren’s money like a drunken sailor, and letting your soon-to-be rivals finance your little splurge (i.e., letting them own your country).

    You know your empire’s crumbling when it’s considered an achievement to pretend that you’ve halved the rate at which you’re adding to the massive mountain of debt you’ve already accumulated.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you weaken your currency until it looks as anemic as a Paris runway model, and you’re still setting record trade deficits. (Hint: Because you’re not making anything anymore.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when “the little brown ones” (thank you George H.W. Bush – certainly not me – for that lovely expression) in country after country of “your backyard” blow you off and proudly elect anti-imperialist leftist governments.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t topple those governments and replace them with nice puppet regimes – like in the good old days – even if you wanted to. And you badly want to.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of their leaders comes to the United Nations and makes fun of your emperor, calling him the devil, and joking about smelling sulphur where he just stood. And though a few folks cringe, everybody laughs.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when just about your entire military land force is tied up in a worse-than-useless war launched on the basis of complete fabrications, that every day is actually making you less – not more – secure from external threat.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when almost half the soldiers in that war are high-paid mercenaries, and you don’t dare institute a draft.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you send soldiers into war with two weeks training and a lack of armor, and then you keep them there for three, four and five rotations.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a member of the Axis of Evil can test missiles and explode nuclear warheads, and all you can do about it is mumble some pathetic warnings about how they better not do that again or there will be consequences.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you even think that there is an Axis of Evil.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a rag-tag military hodge-podge of irregulars has you pinned down in an endless fight you can’t win, but also can’t lose.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re too dumb to even ban Humvees as a first step toward ending your dependency on a foreign-owned crucial resource.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you trade your prior moral leadership on human rights issues for global disgust at your torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ (a.k.a. kidnaping for torture) and the dismantling of nine centuries worth of civil liberties progress.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you blow off international law that you once helped create, and undermine the institutions of international governance that you once helped build.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when opinion polls confirm that every month you’re more and more despised throughout the world.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t even pull off the hanging of a tin-pot murderous former dictator without turning him into a hero.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re the richest country in the world, but nearly 50 million of your people don’t have basic health care coverage.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the World Health Organization ranks your healthcare system 37th ‘best’ in the world, just above Slovenia, and just below Costa Rica. (And far below Colombia, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia and Morocco.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when instead of making it easier for citizens to obtain a higher education, you’re making it harder and more expensive.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your government gives tax breaks to industries as a reward for exporting your jobs elsewhere.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the so-called ‘opposition’ party can’t even turn that obscenity into a viable campaign theme and use it to clobber the worst emperor in your history.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your middle class has been stagnant for three decades, while the wealth of the hyper-rich continues to climb through the roof.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your reaction to that is to exacerbate the problem by enacting tax policies that massively increase further still the gap between the rich and the rest.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the predatory class has taken over your government and is stripping the country of everything not bolted down to the floor. And then it sells the floor itself, as well, to your rivals.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending tens of billions of dollars you don’t own on new nuclear warheads and space weapons that don’t work, to be used against an enemy you don’t have.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of your cities drowns and your government does next to nothing before, during and after.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a massive environmental nightmare is looming around the corner, and your emperor not only ignores it, but claims it isn’t real while taking steps to exacerbate it.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your emperor is warned by a CIA briefer of an imminent terrorist attack of vast proportions, and responds by remaining on vacation and dismissing the briefer with the words: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the same emperor drops everything to fly across the country from his vacation home in order to sign a bill intervening on the wrong side of a personal medical drama involving a single family.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when gays and immigrants are used as diversionary issues to keep people from thinking about the pillaging of their country and their wallets actually taking place. And it works.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when people are getting more religious and less scientific, not the other way around.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your political leaders start to be chosen by dynastic rules of succession.

    And you especially know your empire’s crumbling when the most idiotic child of one of the least accomplished leaders in its history is not only crowned as the next emperor, but is even revered for a time by most of the public as a great one.

    Rome? Britain? Spain?

    At this rate we’ll be lucky to end up like Belgium.

    Editor’s Note: David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers’ reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website,


  14. IIIVVIIIIVVIIIIVIIVIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIIVIIVIVIVIVIIIVIVIIIVIIIV says:

    From an email:

    Thirty-Six Sure-Fire Signs That Your Empire Is Crumbling

    by David Michael Green

    So. You’ve built yourself an empire, eh?

    Well, bully for you!

    What’s next, you ask? Well, now you’ve got to do what everybody does when they have an empire, of course. You’ve got to worry about it falling apart, mate!

    But how to tell for sure? Let me see if I can be helpful. Here are some rules of thumb to keep in mind, thirty-six sure-fire indicators that your empire is falling apart:

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the folks who are gearing up their empire to replace yours start blowing up satellites in space. And then they don’t bother to return your phone calls when you ring up to ask why.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when those same folks are cutting deals left, right and center across Asia, Latin America and Africa, while you, your lousy terms, and your arrogant attitude are no longer welcome.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending your grandchildren’s money like a drunken sailor, and letting your soon-to-be rivals finance your little splurge (i.e., letting them own your country).

    You know your empire’s crumbling when it’s considered an achievement to pretend that you’ve halved the rate at which you’re adding to the massive mountain of debt you’ve already accumulated.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you weaken your currency until it looks as anemic as a Paris runway model, and you’re still setting record trade deficits. (Hint: Because you’re not making anything anymore.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when “the little brown ones” (thank you George H.W. Bush – certainly not me – for that lovely expression) in country after country of “your backyard” blow you off and proudly elect anti-imperialist leftist governments.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t topple those governments and replace them with nice puppet regimes – like in the good old days – even if you wanted to. And you badly want to.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of their leaders comes to the United Nations and makes fun of your emperor, calling him the devil, and joking about smelling sulphur where he just stood. And though a few folks cringe, everybody laughs.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when just about your entire military land force is tied up in a worse-than-useless war launched on the basis of complete fabrications, that every day is actually making you less – not more – secure from external threat.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when almost half the soldiers in that war are high-paid mercenaries, and you don’t dare institute a draft.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you send soldiers into war with two weeks training and a lack of armor, and then you keep them there for three, four and five rotations.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a member of the Axis of Evil can test missiles and explode nuclear warheads, and all you can do about it is mumble some pathetic warnings about how they better not do that again or there will be consequences.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you even think that there is an Axis of Evil.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a rag-tag military hodge-podge of irregulars has you pinned down in an endless fight you can’t win, but also can’t lose.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re too dumb to even ban Humvees as a first step toward ending your dependency on a foreign-owned crucial resource.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you trade your prior moral leadership on human rights issues for global disgust at your torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ (a.k.a. kidnaping for torture) and the dismantling of nine centuries worth of civil liberties progress.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you blow off international law that you once helped create, and undermine the institutions of international governance that you once helped build.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when opinion polls confirm that every month you’re more and more despised throughout the world.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t even pull off the hanging of a tin-pot murderous former dictator without turning him into a hero.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re the richest country in the world, but nearly 50 million of your people don’t have basic health care coverage.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the World Health Organization ranks your healthcare system 37th ‘best’ in the world, just above Slovenia, and just below Costa Rica. (And far below Colombia, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia and Morocco.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when instead of making it easier for citizens to obtain a higher education, you’re making it harder and more expensive.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your government gives tax breaks to industries as a reward for exporting your jobs elsewhere.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the so-called ‘opposition’ party can’t even turn that obscenity into a viable campaign theme and use it to clobber the worst emperor in your history.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your middle class has been stagnant for three decades, while the wealth of the hyper-rich continues to climb through the roof.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your reaction to that is to exacerbate the problem by enacting tax policies that massively increase further still the gap between the rich and the rest.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the predatory class has taken over your government and is stripping the country of everything not bolted down to the floor. And then it sells the floor itself, as well, to your rivals.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending tens of billions of dollars you don’t own on new nuclear warheads and space weapons that don’t work, to be used against an enemy you don’t have.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of your cities drowns and your government does next to nothing before, during and after.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a massive environmental nightmare is looming around the corner, and your emperor not only ignores it, but claims it isn’t real while taking steps to exacerbate it.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your emperor is warned by a CIA briefer of an imminent terrorist attack of vast proportions, and responds by remaining on vacation and dismissing the briefer with the words: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the same emperor drops everything to fly across the country from his vacation home in order to sign a bill intervening on the wrong side of a personal medical drama involving a single family.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when gays and immigrants are used as diversionary issues to keep people from thinking about the pillaging of their country and their wallets actually taking place. And it works.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when people are getting more religious and less scientific, not the other way around.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your political leaders start to be chosen by dynastic rules of succession.

    And you especially know your empire’s crumbling when the most idiotic child of one of the least accomplished leaders in its history is not only crowned as the next emperor, but is even revered for a time by most of the public as a great one.

    Rome? Britain? Spain?

    At this rate we’ll be lucky to end up like Belgium.

    Editor’s Note: David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers’ reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website,


  15. IIIVVIIIIVVIIIIVIIVIIIIIIVIIIVIIIIIVIIIIVIIVIVIVIVIIIVIVIIIVIIIV says:

    From an email:

    Thirty-Six Sure-Fire Signs That Your Empire Is Crumbling

    by David Michael Green

    So. You’ve built yourself an empire, eh?

    Well, bully for you!

    What’s next, you ask? Well, now you’ve got to do what everybody does when they have an empire, of course. You’ve got to worry about it falling apart, mate!

    But how to tell for sure? Let me see if I can be helpful. Here are some rules of thumb to keep in mind, thirty-six sure-fire indicators that your empire is falling apart:

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the folks who are gearing up their empire to replace yours start blowing up satellites in space. And then they don’t bother to return your phone calls when you ring up to ask why.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when those same folks are cutting deals left, right and center across Asia, Latin America and Africa, while you, your lousy terms, and your arrogant attitude are no longer welcome.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending your grandchildren’s money like a drunken sailor, and letting your soon-to-be rivals finance your little splurge (i.e., letting them own your country).

    You know your empire’s crumbling when it’s considered an achievement to pretend that you’ve halved the rate at which you’re adding to the massive mountain of debt you’ve already accumulated.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you weaken your currency until it looks as anemic as a Paris runway model, and you’re still setting record trade deficits. (Hint: Because you’re not making anything anymore.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when “the little brown ones” (thank you George H.W. Bush – certainly not me – for that lovely expression) in country after country of “your backyard” blow you off and proudly elect anti-imperialist leftist governments.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t topple those governments and replace them with nice puppet regimes – like in the good old days – even if you wanted to. And you badly want to.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of their leaders comes to the United Nations and makes fun of your emperor, calling him the devil, and joking about smelling sulphur where he just stood. And though a few folks cringe, everybody laughs.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when just about your entire military land force is tied up in a worse-than-useless war launched on the basis of complete fabrications, that every day is actually making you less – not more – secure from external threat.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when almost half the soldiers in that war are high-paid mercenaries, and you don’t dare institute a draft.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you send soldiers into war with two weeks training and a lack of armor, and then you keep them there for three, four and five rotations.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a member of the Axis of Evil can test missiles and explode nuclear warheads, and all you can do about it is mumble some pathetic warnings about how they better not do that again or there will be consequences.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you even think that there is an Axis of Evil.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a rag-tag military hodge-podge of irregulars has you pinned down in an endless fight you can’t win, but also can’t lose.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re too dumb to even ban Humvees as a first step toward ending your dependency on a foreign-owned crucial resource.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you trade your prior moral leadership on human rights issues for global disgust at your torture, ‘extraordinary rendition’ (a.k.a. kidnaping for torture) and the dismantling of nine centuries worth of civil liberties progress.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you blow off international law that you once helped create, and undermine the institutions of international governance that you once helped build.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when opinion polls confirm that every month you’re more and more despised throughout the world.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you can’t even pull off the hanging of a tin-pot murderous former dictator without turning him into a hero.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re the richest country in the world, but nearly 50 million of your people don’t have basic health care coverage.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the World Health Organization ranks your healthcare system 37th ‘best’ in the world, just above Slovenia, and just below Costa Rica. (And far below Colombia, Cyprus, Saudi Arabia and Morocco.)

    You know your empire’s crumbling when instead of making it easier for citizens to obtain a higher education, you’re making it harder and more expensive.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your government gives tax breaks to industries as a reward for exporting your jobs elsewhere.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the so-called ‘opposition’ party can’t even turn that obscenity into a viable campaign theme and use it to clobber the worst emperor in your history.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your middle class has been stagnant for three decades, while the wealth of the hyper-rich continues to climb through the roof.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your reaction to that is to exacerbate the problem by enacting tax policies that massively increase further still the gap between the rich and the rest.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the predatory class has taken over your government and is stripping the country of everything not bolted down to the floor. And then it sells the floor itself, as well, to your rivals.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when you’re spending tens of billions of dollars you don’t own on new nuclear warheads and space weapons that don’t work, to be used against an enemy you don’t have.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when one of your cities drowns and your government does next to nothing before, during and after.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when a massive environmental nightmare is looming around the corner, and your emperor not only ignores it, but claims it isn’t real while taking steps to exacerbate it.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your emperor is warned by a CIA briefer of an imminent terrorist attack of vast proportions, and responds by remaining on vacation and dismissing the briefer with the words: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”

    You know your empire’s crumbling when the same emperor drops everything to fly across the country from his vacation home in order to sign a bill intervening on the wrong side of a personal medical drama involving a single family.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when gays and immigrants are used as diversionary issues to keep people from thinking about the pillaging of their country and their wallets actually taking place. And it works.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when people are getting more religious and less scientific, not the other way around.

    You know your empire’s crumbling when your political leaders start to be chosen by dynastic rules of succession.

    And you especially know your empire’s crumbling when the most idiotic child of one of the least accomplished leaders in its history is not only crowned as the next emperor, but is even revered for a time by most of the public as a great one.

    Rome? Britain? Spain?

    At this rate we’ll be lucky to end up like Belgium.

    Editor’s Note: David Michael Green is a professor of political science at Hofstra University in New York. He is delighted to receive readers’ reactions to his articles (dmg@regressiveantidote.net), but regrets that time constraints do not always allow him to respond. More of his work can be found at his website,


  16. Jeff says:

    Scully,

    I am really glad I am not related to you, that I don’t know you, and that I will never have to know you.

    I really feel sorry for your family, really sorry.

    God Bless you

    Jeff


  17. wake-n-bake says:

    Excuse me, but you’ve already posted that, like, a million times.


  18. bety keller says:

    Message sent to TP. Hopefully when they return to work on Monday, they will decide not to let one troll terrorist take over the site anymore. Registration? Moderator?


  19. trueblue says:

    Rebellion talk about 9-11 on the Iran thread below.

    Let’s show TP that they need to do something and do it now!

    They don’t care about the rules, so why should we?


  20. Barfly says:

    thisisonlyatest

    And yet we are still here. How silly, Rachel.


  21. Barfly says:

    C’mon Rachel, you can do better than that.


  22. Left Coast Mike says:

    The Dick is going to be impeached and sent to prison to serve out his final days…all for leaking a name.

    Too bad for the dick worshipers. Enjoy your moment, it will be over for good tomorrow.;)


  23. troll alert says:

    rachel b./Joanie Doe/patricia reglin/Wellsley Lathrop/little birdie/angus thorsen/LiL Leprechan/and many,many,others.

    You should be banned not only from this site,but from the internet altogether.You should be ashamed of yourself.
    Please seek the help you need,and leave us alone.


  24. DM says:

    Damn you Jobs and Woz, you made the GUI too easy… people should be forced to write code to get that much junk on the internet.


  25. Lucifer says:

    Deputy President. Hm. I always wondered what Vice President meant. Thanks for clearing that up guys!


  26. Pastor Foster says:

    I have a few legitimate questions I would like an honest answer to from the posters here at Thin Progress.

    Here goes.

    Why dont you folks leave the government up to the professional government?

    Why dont you folks leave the military up to the professional military?

    What do you folks strive for?
    What do you strive against?

    What is the goal here?
    Define the goal?

    Define US politics today in detail.
    Define US geo-politics & policies today in detail.

    What is an enemy?
    Who is the enemy?

    Why are there enemies of the US?
    Why are there allies of the US?
    Who is an ally of the US?
    Why are they an ally.

    What is Christianity?
    Why is there Christianity?
    Who are these Christians?

    What are Jews?
    Why is there the Jewish faith?
    Who are these Jews?

    Why does mankind have a common bond?
    Does mankind even have a common bond?
    What is that bond?

    The answers to all of these questions and many more are available in the best-selling book of ALL TIME!

    The Bible.


  27. Fr. Vivian O'Blivion says:

    What “Bible” are you talking about, brother?
    Definitely not any one of the several different versions of what the Judeo/ Christian enthusiasts call the “bible”………


  28. Rocks911 says:

    Left Coast Mike,

    Nothing will ever happen to Dick, these crooks can rig anything!


  29. Rocks911 says:

    Pastor Foster,

    Your post is almost too stupid to take seriously but because it is indicative of the overwhelming ignorance and apathy of the American electorate I must point out the rediculousness of at least one statement.

    “Why dont you folks leave the government up to the professional government?”

    Uh, have you ever heard of a government “of the people, for the people, and by the people” your statement is antithetical to the system of government intended by our forefathers who crafted this republic.

    You seem more inclined to embrace a theocracy. Try the middle east.


  30. tom baker says:

    Pastor – If you’ve got that many questions, you might want to start answering them with a trip to the library, rather than by bugging the rest of us here.

    Better yet – Enquire of your Deity – “He” provides all answers, no?


  31. mbbsdphil says:

    Please read the terms of use. If you are a frustrated writer, print your own blog. If you are one of Karl’s Munchkins, putting out this trash to pay for your fellowship to the AEI, be creative enough to make your point with a single posting, not fifty. If your point is to overwhelm the post so that no one reads it, find something positive in your life and work on it instead.

    For all those who are surprised about these observations of Mr. Cheney’s role in this government, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I would like to sell you.


  32. CalGal says:

    I recommend everyone read “Dick – The Man Who is President” by John Nichols. It’s all there in black and white! Can’t someone smite Cheney? He’s the most evil man on the planet!


  33. prostratedragon says:

    If you’ve got that many questions, you might want to start answering them with a trip to the library …

    We used to joke in Sunday school that something like that is often God’s answer to your question. But I think we were what some folks are now calling militant Christians or something.


  34. Raymond Funamoto says:

    Torticola Cheney sat on a wall
    Torticola Cheney had a GREAT FALL!
    All of CHIMPya’s horses
    All of CHIMPya’s men
    Couldn’t put Cheney together again!

    CHIMPya and Cheney went up to the Hill
    To fetch a pail of DAMNABLE LIES!
    Cheney FELL DOWN
    AND BROKE HIS CROWN
    And CHIMPya came TUMBLING AFTER!

    Hi Diddle Diddle
    The Cat and the Fiddle
    The NASA jumped over the Moon(A LIE)
    The Little Dog Laughted
    To See Such Sport,
    And Cheney RAN AWAY with CHIMPya!


  35. Akkam’s Razor says:

    [...] pretty sure he's gotten his wish, and has for quite some time.  Again, from ThinkProgress:  The AP on lessons of the Libby trial: “‘What didn’t he touch? It’s [...]



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