Eason Jordan rips anonymous Iran intel presentation.
By on Feb 11th, 2007 at 6:05 pm
Eason Jordan rips anonymous Iran intel presentation.
“Why are US officials hiding behind the cloak of anonymity when presenting the most detailed evidence yet that Iran is supplying weaponry to anti-US forces in Iraq?” IraqSlogger.com’s Eason Jordan asks. “After weeks, if not months, of US official planning to present a damning ‘dossier’ of incriminating evidence against Iran, and after this same US administration presented us with lopsided, erroneous information about the capability and evil intentions of the Saddam Hussein regime, the best the US government can give us today is incendiary evidence presented at a Baghdad news conference by three US officials who refuse to be quoted by name? That’s disgraceful and unacceptable.”
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Well, it worked once…with Iraq. Why not another one?
February 11th, 2007 at 6:10 pmAnd yet, once more, the MSM presents these flimsy conjectures as fact. And the Repugnants say Plamegate isn’t relevant…
February 11th, 2007 at 6:11 pmAfter 6 long years how can you expect the Bushies to behave any differently? Of course they are anonymous. If they were on the record they would be liable for all sorts of acusations once its found out that Iran’s non-existent nuclear program is non-existent. I recently saw a bumpersticker that read “Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam.” Soon that will be changed to “Iran is Arabic for Iraq.” Only 709 more days until the disgrace in the White House is sent on a one-way trip back to Crawford, never to darken the world scene again. Cross your fingers that our nation can last that long.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:14 pmIranians aren’t Arabs, not that it matters to Repugs.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:20 pmand if he were still in charge at pnn he would be lapping up like a hungry dog
February 11th, 2007 at 6:23 pmthis whole damn administration is disgraceful and unacceptable. By God, if we are taken into a war with Iran, then we MUSThave ‘regime change’ here at home by any means necessary. Terminate the Bush/Cheney tyranny. Terminate with extreme prejudice. Take to the streets with intent to revolution. Armed insurrection. To do less, then we are indeed a nation of sheep and deserve whatever shit comes down.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:24 pmNaturally the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia, nor in England,
nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders
of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the
people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament,
or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought
to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country.
-Herman Goering, Nazi. Second in Command of the Third Reich
He was also Commander-in-Chief of Forschungsamt (“FAâ€), the Nazi underground
monitoring services for telephone and radio communications.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:25 pmFool us once, shame on you.
Fool us twice, …uh… uh…
Uh… You cen’t fool me a’gin!
George W. Bush
February 11th, 2007 at 6:31 pmJust for the record, when did the White House promise to publish a dossier showing incriminating evidence against Iran?
February 11th, 2007 at 6:36 pm#10 – Seixon.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:39 pm2002 in the State of the Union Address.
Truth assassins, Constitition rapists.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:43 pmLiberal in New Mexico AND ChildrenofLir
Are you on heroin or something? Or are you just naturally stupid and this incoherent with your judgemental finger pointing and accusations that I am Vince or that Vince is me.
Is it too painful for you to believe that there may be more than just 1 citizen who is fedup with your liberal bullshit?
There there could be, oh dread, many MILLIONS in the USA who do not agree with you and your party one wit?
February 11th, 2007 at 6:44 pmQuit whining Scully. You’re a lightweight when it comes to debating. And you can’t handle it.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:47 pmScully repeats the same post over and over and over. Has nothing to say. Very very dull is Scully Dully.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:48 pm#14- Are the trolls out of drugs, again? Try eating your own kind. They’re delicious, to YOUR kind. Mmm…
February 11th, 2007 at 6:48 pm#14 – scully,
February 11th, 2007 at 6:50 pmThere are more than 2 millions who agree with Liberal in New Mexico AND ChildrenofLir than agree with Bushco.
Or are you just naturally stupid and this incoherent with your judgemental finger pointing and accusations that I am Vince or that Vince is me.
Comment by Scully —
Sorry, rachael, Vince, and all the other personalities who reside in your sorry pysche,
You just showed your stupidity with your reaction.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:50 pmIf I was accused of being a different person, I would say, “John Doe who?”
I also would not know that that person was someone who was combative with the other posters here.
Duh!
You are truly pathetic. I feel pity for you.
#14- Out of drugs AGAIN? Mmm… too bad… so sad…
February 11th, 2007 at 6:52 pmVincePP and Scully
Don’t read this post. It’s dangerous. You might learn something.
“At least one former White House official contends that some Bush advisers secretly want an excuse to attack Iran,” Michael Hirsh and Maziar Bahari report for Newsweek.
The article continues, “‘They intend to be as provocative as possible and make the Iranians do something [America] would be forced to retaliate for,’” says Hillary Mann, the administration’s former National Security Council director for Iran and Persian Gulf Affairs U.S. officials insist they have no intention of provoking or otherwise starting a war with Iran, and they were also quick to deny any link to Sharafi’s kidnapping.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:52 pmhttp://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Newsweek_Hidden_war_with_Iran_Will_0211.html
…wow, it’s so hard to keep up with this amount of stupidity. Even harder to name it as the predatorial anti-Americanism that is the W admin. I should slog a site ofwhat’s not “disgraceful and unacceptable†with these war criminals. …that was easy :(
February 11th, 2007 at 6:52 pmYah, sorry Scully, if you’re looking for a supplier here, you’re whining up the wrong tree site.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:54 pmA list of what’s not disgraceful and unacceptable with Bush administration.
The list is empty.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pmIn a time of universal deceit,
telling the truth becomes a
revolutionary act.
-George Orwell
February 11th, 2007 at 6:56 pmSorry Scully and VincePP, my post about the empty list probably was too complicated for you to understand. Don’t read it. It’s dangerous.
February 11th, 2007 at 6:57 pmLibinNM
February 11th, 2007 at 7:00 pmGood quote
Scully Dully
February 11th, 2007 at 7:03 pmAnother repeat. But it’s not long enough. Can’t you do better than that. Copy more text. However, no amount of text will make you appear intelligent.
Democrats, are u there? democrats? anyone? … buehler?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:05 pmDemocrats, are u there…? democrats….? anyone…? buehler…?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pmThis troll is pyschotic, truly.
Let’s please do our best to simply ignore it?
(AlthoughTP is 100% to blame for this crap.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:07 pmSpudge_Boy said he already advised them of a piece of software – 100.00 dollars – that would solve this problem. Guess losing respect from the readers isn’t worth that investment.)
Who gives a rat’s 4th POC if there are millions who disagree. The ability to make judgments outside of the herd is kind of what makes being human worthwhile, eh?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:08 pmWaltTheMan,
2002 in the State of the Union Address.
Ehm, how could Bush promise to produce a dossier detailing incriminating acts by Iran in a conflict not yet started? LOL!
February 11th, 2007 at 7:08 pmVincePP and Scully, don’t read this post, it’s dangerous. You might learn something.
American Intels Creating Damning Dossier Should Reveal Themselves
“If US officials are so sure of themselves — their evidence appears credible but is disputed by Iranian officials and others — then they should agree to be identified publicly and appear on-camera.”
“After weeks, if not months, of US official planning to present a damning “dossier” of incriminating evidence against Iran, and after this same US administration presented us with lopsided, erroneous information about the capability and evil intentions of the Saddam Hussein regime, the best the US government can give us today is incendiary evidence presented at a Baghdad news conference by three US officials who refuse to be quoted by name?”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eason-jordan/stop-this-now-noname-al_b_40967.html
February 11th, 2007 at 7:11 pmthere is no conflict, Seixon.
None.
The pres. there is a blowhard, but he has done NOTHING against us.
And we are not the world’s hall monitors.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:12 pmSeixon,
February 11th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI try hard to go after issues and not people, but if your serious about post #34, your stupidity astounds me.
A conflict not yet started? How the F@#K do you think we got into Iraq?
all I want to know is who let Dick “Duck” Cheney have a gun again?
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/10/snorkeler.shot.ap/index.html
February 11th, 2007 at 7:17 pmScully, do you think the terrorists THINK they are terrorists? You don’t think this is the doctrine THEY live by?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:18 pm#10. Just for the record, when did the White House promise to publish a dossier showing incriminating evidence against Iran?
Comment by Seixon — February 11, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
seixon- Are you really here to be unplugged? Did you really miss the 20-some MSM prints about the hype, coyness, promises, doctoring, delays…and now distance from our gov’s Iran ‘intel’ release? W is screwing over your right to important decisions. Be pissed.
FYI:
Maura Reynolds writes in the Los Angeles Times: “Bush administration officials acknowledged Friday that they had yet to compile evidence strong enough to back up publicly their claims that Iran is fomenting violence against U.S. troops in Iraq.
“Administration officials have long complained that Iran was supplying Shiite Muslim militants with lethal explosives and other materiel used to kill U.S. military personnel. But despite several pledges to make the evidence public, the administration has twice postponed the release — most recently, a briefing by military officials scheduled for last Tuesday in Baghdad.
“‘The truth is, quite frankly, we thought the briefing overstated, and we sent it back to get it narrowed and focused on the facts,’ national security advisor Stephen J. Hadley said Friday.”
February 11th, 2007 at 7:21 pmSOMEONE IDENTIFY THESE UNIDENTIFIED PEOPLE AND START PUBLICIZING THIER NAMES AND AFFILIations as much as possble. I wouldnt be surprised if these guys didnt even officially work for the Us government.
Guys, I beleive if we drown out the BS preemptively and people know its a lie theres a possible we can stop this coming war before it starts..
February 11th, 2007 at 7:22 pmScully Dully advocates terminating terrorists. An argument could be made that Bush’s actions in the Middle East are those of a terrorist. Be careful Scully. You seem to be endorsing a treasonous act.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:23 pm#41
February 11th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI doubt we can stop Bush. His cabal are intent on bombing. They’ve been paid by Saudi Arabia and the oil companies to do just that. That’s why we’re there in the first place. This has all been leading up to this attack. And after Iran, it’s on to Pakistan and then China. There will be no limits to all war, all the time. It’s the new FOX news show. All War All the Time.
What we can do is witness these crimes and then bring Bush and his cabal to the bar of justice.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmIran is not a threat to the U.S.. I do not believe the Bush Administration about anything. Bush lied to us once about Iraq and weapons of mass destruction. Now, Bush is lying to us about Iran and nuclear weapons and stating that Iran is now supplying the resistance in Iraq with sophisticated weapons.
Bush wants a war now with Iran. The U.S.S. Eisenhower is already in the Persian Gulf. Bush is doing the same thing with Iraq that Nixon has done with Vietnam. Bush wants to drag Syria and Iran into the conflict. This will cause more bloodshed and further de-stabilize the Middle East.
If Bush and Cheney was smart, they would end this senseless war and bring our troops home and stop all the inflammatory rhetoric against Iran.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmI just viewed the movie “Why We Fight.” It is a documentary damning the military/industrial and now add the congressional/thinktank.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:26 pmLast month, I saw “Iraq for Sale.”
If Bush’s behavior propels us down the road toward another unwarranted, illegitimate war in the middle East, any one of us who doesn’t go into the streets, marching and making noise, demanding to be heard BEFORE Bush&Co get us to the point of no return, is partly responsible.
We must stop this madness by the lying, sadistic, cold and calculating men of Bush&Co, their minions in politics and the news.
If they don’t stop it themselves, we will have to do it.
#33
February 11th, 2007 at 7:28 pmI like that,….. “being able to make judgements outside of the herd makes being human worthwhile..”
The down side is when we have rogue elements of humanity making decisions that affect the well being of “the herd” in a negative way.
Example:
Current executive branch of the United States of America is making decisions which are uneccesarily killing human beings, enslaving human beings, and destroying the resources and natural systems which human beings require for life.
If the trolls can’t stand the so-calaled “liberal bullshit” here, why don’t they go away? Their hatred will not change us and obviously points of fact won’t change them.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:28 pmEven the right wing sites probably can’t stand their repetitive massive text copying bs
February 11th, 2007 at 7:32 pm#47…what’s the title for one step above ‘evil-doer’? The matching jumpsuits for this cabal should be emblazoned with it.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:34 pmLadies and gentlemen, let us draw your attention to ring number three!
February 11th, 2007 at 7:35 pmAsserting a right to self-defense, American forces in eastern Afghanistan have launched artillery rounds into Pakistan to strike Taliban fighters who attack remote U.S. outposts, the commander of U.S. forces in the region said Sunday.
To Children of Lir, I agree with your post on number 43 that Bush wants all war all the time.
Two or more years ago, Bush stated that “I am a President with war on my mind.”
Also, the Saudis had their people come over here and paid the CIA to train them to fly those airplanes into our buildings on 9/11. Bush does not want to say anything at all because he and his family are friends of the bin Ladens and friends of the Saudi Royal Family.
A true liberation movement like the PLO is not going to attack or kill innocent civilians on a large scale.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:39 pm#43 your most likely right, however, I think theres a small , very small but possible chance that if something can be done to get their own to start turning on them, it can be prevented. i guess we will see. lets face it.. they are going to have to use nukes to do what they really want to do to iran, and if so, its going to take alot more propanda than some anonymous press briefings to keep the american people from revolting. if people in positions of power start calling them out on thier BS as soon as it starts I believe something can be done. i would encourage everyone concerned to try and do something…
February 11th, 2007 at 7:40 pm#38.. whitee hermaphroditee…
February 11th, 2007 at 7:41 pmthah is a very funny story in the link you provided.. thanks………
Last I heard, Deadeye was planning a fly fishing excursion to Tasmania.. anyone seen or heard of dat wascaly widdle feller lately?
I’ve been tying up some special fly patterns for him to try:
a Size 10 Immaculate Contraption
a couple of Quail-Hackle Spent-wad Drakes
and a few Pale Evening Dumb’s……….
I’d offer a few Mickey Finn’s as well, but I wouldn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea….
When the U.S. does this it just creates more problems. The U.S. firing missiles into Pakistan is a violation of Pakistani sovereignty.
I just wish that the U.S. would just leave both Iraq and Afghanistan and close Guantanamo and bring all the troops home. I also wish that our Democratic controlled Senate and Congress would call for an impeachment of Bush.
Bush is a threat to humanity.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:42 pmHeaven forbid that Iran meddle in Iraq, a country that attacked them resulting in a 10 year war and 1 million dead. When America meddled in Iran, in 1953, it orchestrated a coup against a democratically elected goverment, and installed the Shah. Actually, Iran was the First Country our CIA overthrew. But we didn’t CALL it meddling.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:42 pm#50… pablo..
‘Evil-Enabler’
February 11th, 2007 at 7:45 pmOooh-
Nice one, Badger!
cha-ching!
February 11th, 2007 at 7:47 pm;)
ChildrenofLir,
You are an insufferable pedophile.
I sense some pedophilia attacks coming up for you.
Just sayin…
A ” scullymania ” in your honor if you will…
February 11th, 2007 at 7:47 pmA crescendo of bullshit: Pentagon blames Iran for U.S. casualties in Iraq, aided by voice activated recorder, etc. A big weekend for unnamed sources pointing the finger at Iran, blaming them for many of the U.S. casualties in Iraq. Question: If Michael Gordon is a voice activated tape recorder, what is James Glanz?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pmI asked a simple question: when did “US official planning to present a damning ‘dossier’ of incriminating evidence against Iran”?
It warrants a simple answer. The recent NIE stated that Iran was giving “lethal support” to Shiite militias in Iraq. This is what the Bush administration has been talking about. Are we once again pretending that the Bush administration is making shit up, while the intelligence agencies have said exactly what they’re saying?
NIE: “Iranians provide lethal support to Shiite militias”
Bush: “Iran is providing lethal support to Shiite militias”
Liberals: “Bush is lying again!”
Can anyone explain this phenomenon?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:48 pmTo Badger, however, it was meddling. The U.S. wanted Mossadegh out of power because he nationalized all the oil fields. Mossadegh had the support of a wide margin of the Iranian people. The U.S. wanted the Shah back in power so that the U.S. can control the oil fields.
The people of Iran in 1979 responded by overthrowing the Shah from power. The Iranian people no longer did not want their nation to be a client state of U.S. imperialism and do not want it today.
They may not all agree with President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, but they will agree that they do not want Iran to be a U.S. puppet state or for Iran to be a client of U.S. imperialism.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:50 pm#54 That post just made my DAY Raven! I sincererly hope I’m not the only Vise-head here so others can laugh as hard as I did.
Immacualte Contraceptions! YES!
February 11th, 2007 at 7:50 pmOK, Sex Ion, whatever you say………..
February 11th, 2007 at 7:52 pmChildrenofLir,
You are an insufferable pedophile.
I sense some pedophilia attacks coming up for you.
Just sayin…
A †scullymania †in your honor if you will…
February 11th, 2007 at 7:52 pmOne pedophilia post from rachael/scully etal,
And we should email TP every five minutes for the rest of the night until they do something about this sicko.
I am sick and tired of this scumbag taking over with it’s disgusting pyschotic fantasies.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:53 pmAlso, Badger, the CIA also staged a coup against democratically elected Guatemalan President Jacobo Arbenz in the early 1950’s and also murdered Prime Minister Patrice Lumumba of the Congo in 1960. The CIA also murdered resistance fighter Che Guevara in 1967 and staged a coup against democratically elected President Salvador Allende Gossens of Chile in September 11, 1973 and installed Augusto Pinochet, a brutal dictator, to power.
The CIA is the biggest terror organization in the whole world.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:54 pm#34 – Seixon,
February 11th, 2007 at 7:55 pmDoes the phrase “Axis of Evil” ring a bell? The rhetoric that followed was a class act of misinformation. Go to a mental health clinic and have a test for Alzheimer’s. There are drugs now for treatment of that ailment.
GawdDANG Seixon, you’ve got to be kidding.
The “simple question” in #61 isn’t even a question:
It DOES NOT warrant a simple answer. It BARELY warrants an exasoerated grunt, so I don’t now why I’m wasting my time.
Please, Seixon, if you want to have a discussion, use a little more attenton to detail and try to pay attention.
February 11th, 2007 at 7:57 pmyet Smirky just keeps on smirking…..
February 11th, 2007 at 7:58 pmWaltTheMan,
Yes, Axis of Evil does ring a bell. What does not ring a bell, though, is when the Bush administration stated they were going to present a dossier of incriminating acts Iran had carried out. Your earlier statement seemed to indicate that the Bush administration promised to show such a dossier about Iran’s involvement in Iraq, in 2002, before the war had even begun. Do you mind commenting on how the Bush administration would defy the laws of space and time?
February 11th, 2007 at 7:59 pmexasperated, I mean
February 11th, 2007 at 8:00 pmOne pedophilia post from rachael/scully etal,
And we should email TP every five minutes for the rest of the night
Comment by trueblue — February 11, 2007 @ 7:53 pm
Only a psycopath would email someone the WHOLE NIGHT LONG over and over again. If you think that is normal then you need help. If you think that is normal, then watch this:
ChildrenofLir,
You are an insufferable pedophile.
I sense some pedophilia attacks coming up for you.
Just sayin…
A †scullymania †in your honor if you will…
Bwahahahaha
Happy emailing!!
TP doesn`t do ANYTHING because?
They never get your mail!!!
bwahahahaha….
I intercept your and everyone heres mail!!
bwahahahaha….
I am like your proverbial ” Ultimate Admin ” !!!
I decide what mail actually makes it to it`s intended destination from your stupid box ( duh…computer! D`Oh) you twit.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:01 pmSeixon, are you gonna enlist for the war in Iran? Come on and grab an M-16 and get your ass to Tehran.
-GSD
February 11th, 2007 at 8:01 pmOn this whole issue of who’s guns and bombs and weapons are being used to kill whom….
February 11th, 2007 at 8:06 pmI’m very certain that the percentage of American, Russian, Israeli, Syrian and who knows else weaponry is considerably greater than what is coming into Iraq from Iran.
Iraq has become a black hole for anyone who has arms and ammo to sell, to make a fast buck and kill more people so they can manufacture and sell more wepons.
Iraq is awash with weapons.
When the US invaded Iraq, by the time the military got to Bagdhad, the Iraqi army had melted into the palm trees, taking their weaponry with them.
What weapons they had to surrender, they re-aquired shortly after the US military relaxed it’s (inadequate in the first place)guard and left the doors to the ammo dumps unguarded.
I’ll bet the insurgency is still using some of the 7 tons of plastic explosives snatched from under the noses of American military in just one of these events.
What does it take for one bomb, huh?
A pound, two at the most?
Oh, and for goodness sake, don’t forget all those pallets of shrink wrapped $100 dolar bills… cripes, they were already bundled for shipment off to the nearest smuggler on any of Iraq’s borders…….
NIE: “Iranians provide lethal support to Shiite militiasâ€
Bush: “Iran is providing lethal support to Shiite militiasâ€
These are not, necessarily, identical statements. “Iranians” can refer to any Iranian citizen while “Iran” implies individuals within the Iranian government.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:07 pmHi Seixon, I just read your Blog post trashing Ritter and Hersch on their Iran predicitions.
Wake up, buddy. I’ve been watching both of those guys for a while too, and I’ll say for a long time I was wondering WTF they were talking about, but there’s a WHOLE F-ING LOT of evidence NOW that leads me to believe that, even though they got the timeframe wrong, both of them are probably on the right track.
Besides, Ritter was ABSOLUTELY DEAD RIGHT on Iraq. PERIOD.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pmYour earlier statement seemed to indicate that the Bush administration promised to show such a dossier about Iran’s involvement in Iraq, in 2002, before the war had even begun. Do you mind commenting on how the Bush administration would defy the laws of space and time?
Comment by Seixon
Maybe with a signing statement, just like they have defied any other law they don’t like?
Actually, could Bush have promised intelligence information about Iran’s involvement in Iraq because the administration already had Iran in its targets?
February 11th, 2007 at 8:10 pm#76
February 11th, 2007 at 8:12 pmCan you please clarify what you are saying PLC?
the dixie chicks, on the grammy show, just kicked ass…
no, not ready to make nice…
“That’s disgraceful and unacceptable.â€
damn right…
February 11th, 2007 at 8:14 pm.
#63…thanks Sarge…
February 11th, 2007 at 8:15 pmI have this daydream of Chainee thrashing a 9 weight sinking torpedo head into the wind and getting seriously wound up in a back cast just as his drift boat hits a bouncing snag at the start of a rapids…………
PLC,
OK, I’ll quote directly…
NIE: “Nonetheless, Iranian lethal support for select groups of Iraqi Shia
militants clearly intensifies the conflict in Iraq.”
Bush: “Radical Shia elements, some of whom receive support from Iran, formed death squads. The result was a tragic escalation of sectarian rage and reprisal that continues to this day.”
I don’t see how these are different.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:18 pmDuring the first phase of the current Iraq War, our troops were so busy searching for weapons of Mass Destuction, that they drove pasts warehouses full of Weapons of slightly less than Mass Destruction. These munitions were subsequently looted and found their way into Car and Truck Bombs. And why didn’t they just blow these warehouses up? Because they didn’t have time to search them, and were afraid there were chemical weapons inside , which might be released in an explosion. Lethal Incompetence in the war planning!!
February 11th, 2007 at 8:20 pmFor Neocons like Kristol,Wolfowitz,Perle and others,’Support Our Troops’ means starting another bigger war and support Neocons’ policies.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:21 pmRaven,
February 11th, 2007 at 8:23 pmI’ve got friends of friends in WY that have refused to sell the Veep the bugs he wants before. I think I’ll tell them about your daydream. Maybe getting Dick out in a Klackacraft could be jsut what we need…maybe we can convince him that their killing ‘em with Float Tubes on the Lochsaw in May…
#76
Can you please clarify what you are saying PLC?
Comment by SGT Slouch
Seixon #61 tried to make the NIE report support the Bush administration’s position regarding Iran. The Bush administration has been fond of saying that terrorists have been congregating “over there” in Iraq, so it would be logical to suggest that some of those foreign born insurgents are from Iran. However, I am pointing out that individual Iranians operating in Iraq are not necessarily doing so as official agents of the Iranian government (although they could be). Therefore, U.S. policy toward Iran as a whole and toward its government should not be dictated by these individual Iranians’ actions unless there is concrete proof that they are supported by the Iranian government.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:24 pmand f they ARE being supported by the “government” of Iran? What then?
February 11th, 2007 at 8:26 pmLook over there a UFO!
Heh.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pmThere’s a particular stretch of the Rio Grande we could entice him into for some early snowmelt nymphing………
February 11th, 2007 at 8:28 pm… where?………there?………..or there?…….
February 11th, 2007 at 8:30 pmYou ever notice that Democrats take the side of the murderers, terrorists, and other useless, psychopathic in-duh-viduals more often than the people that are actually the targets of all these nutjobs? Terrorists have feelings too. All together now: Aww! That might be true, but everyone sleeps better when these fanatics are turned into little chunks of pulverized spam (the weird colored meat byproduct, not the email selling you computer viruses).
February 11th, 2007 at 8:30 pmRight I think what Seixwankoff is trying to say is that we should attack every country who has citizens in Iraq who are providing material support to the insurgents. So we need to get to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt very soon on the “to bomb” list.
Also, Seixxon doesnt think things like supporting right wing central american death squads is terrorist activity. Its ok to take people out of their homes in the middle of the night and kill them, as long as the people doing the killing are doing so at the behest of OUR side.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:34 pmFor Neocons like Kristol,Wolfowitz,Perle and others,’Support Our Troops’ means starting another bigger war and support Neocons’ policies.
Every one of these fools needs an M-16, a helmet, and a free trip to Baghdad. Then we’ll see how they REALLY feel.
The only thing they support is their fame and wallet.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:39 pmPLC,
Bush stated the same thing as the NIE did. That’s all I’m saying. And yes, if they intend to show that the Iranian government is involved in Iraq, then they have to show evidence of this. It is no doubt possible that Iranians are helping militias in Iraq without government backing, but then there’s the little problem with who Iran lets cross their border with Iraq…
What is a bit disturbing to me is the way in which people at this site seemingly disbelieve the possibility of the Iranian government being involved in Iraq. It seems like all of you have already decided ahead of time that the Iranians are not doing this. Why not wait and let the facts speak for themselves before making up your mind?
SGT Slouch,
The possibility of the Iranian government aiding insurgents in Iraq has already been erased from their minds, because it simply cannot be possible to them. You can’t blame them, really. They’re just following the programming they get at Think Progress.
Whitey,
Stop putting words in my mouth, thanks.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:47 pmIts ok to take people out of their homes in the middle of the night and kill them, as long as the people doing the killing are doing so at the behest of OUR side.
Comment by Whitey HermAphrodite
Well, double standard is an inherent feature of our trolls here…
February 11th, 2007 at 8:51 pmEhm, how could Bush promise to produce a dossier detailing incriminating acts by Iran in a conflict not yet started? LOL!
Comment by Seixon
Ha ha ha!!! Yeah, that has stopped them before.
February 11th, 2007 at 8:55 pmScully troll has morphed into Gunther Schleisser. Be ware!
February 11th, 2007 at 8:59 pm#71 – Seixon,
Here is a direct lift from the SOTUA in 2002:
“Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror from threatening America or our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction.
Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since September 11, but we know their true nature. North Korea is a regime arming with missiles and weapons of mass destruction, while starving its citizens.
Iran aggressively pursues these weapons and exports terror, while an unelected few repress the Iranian people’s hope for freedom.
Iraq continues to flaunt its hostility toward America and to support terror. The Iraqi regime has plotted to develop anthrax and nerve gas and nuclear weapons for over a decade. This is a regime that has already used poison gas to murder thousands of its own citizens, leaving the bodies of mothers huddled over their dead children. This is a regime that agreed to international inspections then kicked out the inspectors. This is a regime that has something to hide from the civilized world.
States like these, and their terrorist allies, constitute an axis of evil, arming to threaten the peace of the world. By seeking weapons of mass destruction, these regimes pose a grave and growing danger. They could provide these arms to terrorists, giving them the means to match their hatred. They could attack our allies or attempt to blackmail the United States. In any of these cases, the price of indifference would be catastrophic.”
We will work closely with our coalition to deny terrorists and their state sponsors the materials, technology and expertise to make and deliver weapons of mass destruction.”
February 11th, 2007 at 9:03 pmIf you want the entire sordid tale, go here.
Mouth-breathers, any accusation of “lethal support” belongs foremost with W.
David Kay, 10/29/2004: “Iraq is awash with tens of thousands of tons of explosives right now in the hands of insurgents because we did not provide the security when we took over the country.”
IAlso, IAEA officials were unable to persuade US planners to protect Tuwaitha [Iraq'a main, inactive nuclear power site]
==10-27-2004/ Washington Post/ Video Shows G.I.’s at Weapon Cache, ==10-27-2004/ Boston Globe/ Kerry says Bush sought to hide loss of Iraq arms == 10-26-2004/ Washington Post/ Iraqi Explosives Missing, U.N. Is Told ==10-26-2004/ LA Times/ Explosives cache is missing from Iraqi facility
February 11th, 2007 at 9:04 pmAnd yet, once more, the MSM presents these flimsy conjectures as fact. And the Repugnants say Plamegate isn’t relevant…
Comment by Pythagoras
Rove has the numbers!!
February 11th, 2007 at 9:06 pmJuan C,
February 11th, 2007 at 9:10 pmOT, but, I sent your a message, I think,. I had your ISP blocked in my browser. It is now open. Sorry about that! Did not see your message from 2/5 as it went into the spam basket.
You can’t blame them, really. They’re just following the programming they get at Think Progress.
Thats just goofy. If they listened to the TP critics they would have never gotten into this quagmire.
February 11th, 2007 at 9:10 pmDid not see your message from 2/5 as it went into the spam basket.
Comment by WaltTheMan
Do you know why that happens? I had some communication with a professor in Naples, and his e-mails were delivered at my Bulk inbox.
February 11th, 2007 at 9:17 pmYou can’t blame them, really. They’re just following the programming they get at Think Progress.
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:21 pmEvery one of these fools needs an M-16, a helmet, and a free trip to Baghdad. Then we’ll see how they REALLY feel.
The only thing they support is their fame and wallet.
Comment by ohboy
I think we should spray them with female camel phermones and put them in a corral full of male camels with no kevlar skivvies!
February 11th, 2007 at 9:24 pmYou can’t blame them, really. They’re just following the programming they get at Think Progress.
Thats just goofy. If they listened to the TP critics they would have never gotten into this quagmire.
Comment by Jet Mech
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:26 pmActually no, I am not barfly, but thanks for posting Rachel Scully and showing the people that you are the Rachel/Joanie pedophile posting troll.
BTW you wanna see my list of Real Pedophiles?
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:27 pmconspiracy theory looking REAL?
Theories that the manufactured Iran ‘crisis’ is about oil and the dollar are seriously missing the point. It’s about world domination
‘In 1996, Richard Perle and Douglas Feith, two neo-conservatives later to play an important role in formulation of Bush administration’s Pentagon policy in the Middle East, authored a paper for then newly elected Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu. That advisory paper, “A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm”, called on Netanyahu to make a “clean break from the peace process”. Perle and Feith also called on Netanyahu to strengthen Israel’s defenses against Syria and Iraq, and to go after Iran as the prop of Syria.
More than a year before President George W Bush declared his “shock and awe” operation against Iraq, he made his now-infamous January 2002 State of the Union address to Congress in which he labeled Iran, along with Iraq and North Korea, as a member of the “axis of evil” trio. This was well before anyone in Tehran was even considering establishing an oil bourse to trade oil in various currencies.’
http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/217/41/
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:28 pmRepublican director of the “Young Republican Federation” Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Whaddya think about that Rachel? eh?
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:30 pmSee Scully Rachel Joanie (Sybil freek) you got nothing but baseless opinion and scrolling spam, I got facts.
February 11th, 2007 at 9:30 pm#103 – Juan C,
February 11th, 2007 at 9:31 pmIn my case, my spam blocker offers the option of banning an ISP. I inadvertanly choose to block your ISP when knocking down some spam. My spam blocker currently knocks down about 50 a day. I check every week or so for possible invalid rejects. That is why I caught your post today – Sunday is clean-up day.
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:31 pmHaw, You got nuthin but lip service Rachel.
Loser.
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February 11th, 2007 at 9:34 pmSpeaking of lips, you still tying those pink manhole covers around your waist so people won’t notice the slimey trail you leave as you swaddle around the streetcorners with them tree trunk thighs?
I think I hear a Chainsaw!! BrrRRrRRRr
LMAO
February 11th, 2007 at 9:36 pmHeeeres rachel!
February 11th, 2007 at 9:42 pmThis thread is trashed.
February 11th, 2007 at 9:42 pmAt a briefing held under unusually secretive conditions here, the U.S. officials, who refused to be identified by name and did not allow cameras or recording devices inside a conference room, offered up tables laden with hardware and a slide show of documentation that they said bolstered the U.S. contentions of Iranian involvement in Iraqi unrest.
So, if the reporters want independent corroboration, they can show independent experts their notes of the meeting. Based on this, we’re going to go to war?
February 11th, 2007 at 9:50 pmWow, where did the point of this thread go? Oh my!
February 11th, 2007 at 10:12 pmSpudge,
That might be a way to get rid of the troll — sick the cops on it’s IP address.
Have we had this conversation before?
February 11th, 2007 at 10:13 pmSo, if the reporters want independent corroboration, they can show independent experts their notes of the meeting. Based on this, we’re going to go to war?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
The Shia and Sunni likely purchased the stuff on the black market.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:14 pmI don’t think it will be war yet.
Troll alert, sully from sullyville is scully, a.k.a. scully from scullyville, a.k.a. gunther schleiser. Do not feed the trolls. Ignore them.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:19 pmThis thread is trashed.
Comment by Zooey
Every thread is trashed by the psychotroll.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:20 pmPersonally i’m gonna walk off and not post for a week.
Or untill TP gets rid of santo
That might be a way to get rid of the troll — sick the cops on it’s IP address. Have we had this conversation before?
Comment by Zooey
Zooey you have am email convo with FAIZ going. What does he think about, or doing, about the ‘Rachel’ troll?
February 11th, 2007 at 10:20 pmI think Scully is Santo.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:24 pmOr untill TP gets rid of santo
Comment by Wayne
That ain’t Santo. It just stole the name.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:25 pmThis thread is trashed.
Comment by Zooey
psychotroll has taken a dump on every thread. The whole blog is trashed.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:25 pmI’m walking till they get rid of rachel/santo, it’s impossible to even have a discussion with it post bombing the site.
Hey why don’t we invade eastern europe? There’s ass loads of weapons in Iraq that originated in europe. I’ll bet some of those AK’s are Russian made. Better nuke them too just to be on the safe side.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:26 pmI think that the trolls get on here because they want to disrupt a decent discussion about something and they think it is funny. Why don’t they troll on over to Free Republic and disrupt their threads. Possibly, scully is a neo-con just like the individuals on Free Republic and has been sent by them to disrupt this thread.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:27 pmZooey you have am email convo with FAIZ going. What does he think about, or doing, about the ‘Rachel’ troll?
Comment by Jet Mech
Heh. I haven’t heard from him in so long. Basically, he said not to respond to the troll, like that makes a difference, and email him saying where the troll crap is, and he’d get rid of it.
Well…..
February 11th, 2007 at 10:27 pmI agree with what wake n bake proposed. Every time, he/she/it posts something or thrash the threads we must keep on topic. Providing links, discussing and clarifying things. NO matter how much she posts, she wont break us.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:28 pmThat ain’t Santo. It just stole the name.
Comment by Zooey
It’s just as freekin crazy as santo
February 11th, 2007 at 10:28 pmhehe
i’m off, helping someone make a demo of their songs tonight.
discovery channel right now
secret history of the free mason.
watch your money because they are watching you ‘the all seeing eye on the dollar bill’
wake up folks.
these traitors are ‘accomplishing’ their ‘mission’
February 11th, 2007 at 10:30 pmLike I asked before,
February 11th, 2007 at 10:33 pmWhen IT rears it’s ugly head on ANY thread,
kill the thread.
STOP POSTING. Nada, zip, zilch.
When TP deletes/ cleans the thread (if ever),
c’mon back! It’s no big loss.
Otherwise, you’re letting the troll (=terrorist) win.
Works for me. Turn off that new fangled idiot box (compuber) and go outside, fire up the chimenea, open a Pacifico and breath some fresh air before you find yourself saying:
“My God, I’ve wasted my life.”
I just wonder if this troll named scully is not cutting and pasting this big spiel on here? Anyway, we must keep our discussion going and just ignore the troll.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:37 pmIt’s probably a product of the Iranian Directorate, the reincarnation of Feith’s Office of Special Plans:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Pentagon_confirms_Iranian_directorate_as_intelligence_0615.html
February 11th, 2007 at 10:37 pmWhere did this intelligence on Iran come from? It came from the CIA, NSA and other organizations and is made up so that the U.S. can find some excuse to attack Iran.
Iran is not arming insurgents in Iraq. The insurgents are getting their weaponry from the black market and from weapons depot’s that were left after the invasion of Iraq in 2003 that brought the nation to chaos.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:39 pmGo away Scully, find something better to do than to waste your time disrupting the threads. Surely, you have more intelligence than to do this.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:41 pmDeat TP staff,
February 11th, 2007 at 10:43 pmCould you PLEASE limit the amount of character users can input per post to 256 in order to keep cut-and-paste maniacs from disrupting the thread. We know how to use links to emphasize our positions. A small counter in below the text field would also be helpful.
(I e-mailed this same message to TP’s staff.)
I think I am going to take wake and bake’s advice for the evening. I am going to get off of my computer and watch some TV and drink me a Corona.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:43 pmThis thread has been destroyed by a nutty troll who must be on LSD.
February 11th, 2007 at 10:49 pmwow, somebady really doesn’t want us talking about this
February 11th, 2007 at 10:54 pmThe nutty troll is Rachel a.k.a. Scully, a.k.a. Sully, a.k.a. Gunther Schlieser, a.k.a. Jet Mech. Maybe we should stop posting and let TP clean the thread out. Anyway, I am outta here for now. Have a pleasant good evening or morning where ever you all are.
February 11th, 2007 at 11:03 pmnumskullville, I sure wish that if cannot add anything of substace, get the hell off and go play with yourself!
February 11th, 2007 at 11:04 pmNutty troll is now messing up the new thread above this one. I am off to other blogs untill TP does something about spam posts on here.
February 11th, 2007 at 11:12 pmWhatever happen to that plane that hit the pentagon? Oh yeah almost forgot, it completely vaporized into nothing. The first plane in history to ever completely vaporize on impact. Wow, what are the odds?
February 11th, 2007 at 11:30 pmCrying shame that numbskull was not under the fallout!
February 11th, 2007 at 11:31 pmbuzzbomb,
February 11th, 2007 at 11:44 pmdon’t forget the cellphone calls that couldn’t have possibly been made in air.
And, yes, the Pentagon:
Notice the shape of the impact on the building?
Isn’t nearly as big as a plane, is it?
Gee, why confiscate all those tapes, too?
February 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmHmmmmmmmm?
Thanks Trueblue.
February 11th, 2007 at 11:46 pmI love You for that comment.
Earlier I lost it too. Then I realized that there are so many mentally disordered republicans out there that it makes perfectly sense if one of those obsessive compulsive disorder guys spams the thread. There are way too many smart people posting on TP that one braindead republican moron should be able to wreck our nerves. Maybe it’s bush himself. Cut’n paste is everyhting that guy is capable of.
Nice to see you, It’s Just Karma!
I’m so happy to see you.
I’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!
February 11th, 2007 at 11:53 pmStupid would be to believe any of the BS the .gov came up with regarding 911. That’s the way they work. If You know the truth they pull a ‘Conspiracy Theory’ or a ‘Swiftboat’ on You. And the MSM repeats it over and over again and the braindead republican sheeples believe it.
February 11th, 2007 at 11:54 pmThe .gov didn’t let it happen. They did it.
Can you believe they had the balls to write a post about the Dixie Chicks while letting this stupid troll run amok?
How dare they!
You ought to be ashamed of yourselves, THINK PROGRESS!
February 11th, 2007 at 11:55 pmOne of the released flight recorders had a flight attendant who mentioned pepper spray. I still can’t believe that without mace or pepper spray that all 4 planes could have been hijacked the same way without the pilots fending off at least one attack. But enter pepper spray, then anything is possible in the small confines of an airplane. And why else would all the tapes be classified if not to hide the embarrassing evidence of the terrorists using more than razor blades to attack America.
February 11th, 2007 at 11:55 pmHere’s a good website to check out:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
I’ve read some of the sidebars, they’re well put together.
I think it’s incredible that the 9/11 commission just accepted the cell phone call evidence without question. Now it’s come out that those calls were impossible in 2001. Unless, of course, they were actually made from the ground.
I wonder why none of the call logs were ever introduced into evidence? I mean, one call, they don’t know if it was from a cell, or one of those phones attached to the seats….And the call logs, they could even show which cell towers handled the calls…
February 11th, 2007 at 11:59 pmBecause they didn’t happen, Briseadh na Faire.
You know that, as do I.
Who knows what they have planned to trick us into Iran……….
February 12th, 2007 at 12:07 amYou know that, as do I.
Who knows what they have planned to trick us into Iran……….
Comment by trueblue — February 12, 2007 @ 12:07 am
But, assuming for the moment that those who reported receiving said calls were telling the truth…the calls had to originate somewhere, and there would have been a record of each calls point of origin, or at least the cell towers which picked up the calls. Triangulation would have pinpointed the location of the cell phone if more than two towers at a time registered the call.
As for Iran, the rhetoric and accusations are coming pretty fast now. The attact is likely less than a month away.
February 12th, 2007 at 12:34 amHere’s a fine twist:
Could one of the trolls, Hacker bob, or Seixon, or Hendler please find the United Nations Resolution that specifically authorized American Soldiers to be in Iraq? I ask you three, because you all so consistently support Bush’s War, such a resolution would seem to support your cause. I didn’t know such a resolution existed, other than in Bush’s imagination.
February 12th, 2007 at 12:39 amIn other news:
Sen. John McCain blasted a report in the Washington Post that said the Arizona Republican, who has campaigned against the use of “soft money,” is using just those kinds of funds to support his GOP presidential nomination.
McCain told CNN the article is “worst hit job that has ever been done in my entire political career.”
According to the story published on Sunday, campaign and IRS records show several of McCain’s finance co-chairmen “have given or raised large donations for political parties or 527 groups.”
February 12th, 2007 at 12:42 amI’m mad as hell, and I’m not going to take it anymore!
Comment by trueblue — February 11, 2007 @ 11:53 pm
Ummmm….
Bye!!
February 12th, 2007 at 12:56 amBush should leave the peace loving Iranian people alone!
February 12th, 2007 at 1:02 amTake your Lithium and risperdal, RACHAEL ASS TROLL.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:17 am“And above all, Fascism, the more it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace… War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the people who have the courage to meet it.” – Benito Mussolini
We (the majority of the American people) no nothing of history and are simply working under the assumption that “it can’t happen here.” Well, it is happening here.
American conservatives are nothing more than Fascists. My only hope is that, when it is all said and done, our fascists meet the same fate as Il Duce.
.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:19 amYou know at dissident they have great articles but never any comments. Makes me always wonder. TP should come up with real articles themselves. At least that would cause the republican brain fuses to melt. To allow minors to post unchecked on TP is irresponsible…
February 12th, 2007 at 2:30 am911, 911, 911, 911, 911?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:48 amWhat’s up with that nonsense? When are You folks at TP introducing credit cards to verify a posters identity? Hm? Now You get hijacked Yourself. That’s actually really funny. Somebody impostering TP and talking about “No 9-11 remember”. While everybody with more IQ than shoe size must be upset by 50 repeatedly insulting posts, it seems outrageous to be censored about a discussion that started the greatest distruction of constitutional rights, habeus corpus and the whole FU war in Iraq, based on shameless lies and deceiption.
Very funny. ROTFLMAO!!!!
It’s time to start our own blog where free speech is not
limited to the convenient propaganda.
Credit card checked identity. That will keep the trolls at bay.
Credit card checked identity. That will keep the trolls at bay.
Comment by itsjustkarma
Where there is a will there is a way. I already have the answer for that one. I have several programs that I have written that handle credit card registration.
Very simple to get around.
Where there is a will there is a way.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Nothing more needs said really.
Nuff said.
bwaha bwah bwah bwahahahaha
February 12th, 2007 at 4:01 amI have a few legitimate questions I would like an honest answer to from the posters here at Thin Progress.
Here goes.
Why dont you folks leave the government up to the professional government?
Why dont you folks leave the military up to the professional military?
What do you folks strive for?
What do you strive against?
What is the goal here?
Define the goal?
Define US politics today in detail.
Define US geo-politics & policies today in detail.
What is an enemy?
Who is the enemy?
Why are there enemies of the US?
Why are there allies of the US?
Who is an ally of the US?
Why are they an ally.
What is Christianity?
Why is there Christianity?
Who are these Christians?
What are Jews?
Why is there the Jewish faith?
Who are these Jews?
Why does mankind have a common bond?
Does mankind even have a common bond?
What is that bond?
The answers to all of these questions and many more are available in the best-selling book of ALL TIME!
The Bible.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:18 amScully Dully, Vince P, Michael and the trolls are Israelis. All in the Israel counter-propagande payroll. The Israeli government recruited about 5000 of its citizens to argue incessantly on any online blog; defending Israel at all cost, and making anybody who attacks Israel to appear like an dum dum.
These same ingrates whose country was built on the American tax-payer money, and who has been sustaining on our tax-payer grants and free aid life machine are the same worms who steal our top secrets, and re-sell it to our enemies, infiltrate us, cause alot of confusion. And thanks to them, we have sept 11 which they’d have averted if they’d raised the alarm, but because, the war would define their NEW MIDDLE EAST, they blow its embers into bigger furnace.
Vince and his stoolies are just the same pack of loud-mouth who lured us into attacking Iraq. Who informed us that the Iraqis wanted our bombs and tanks on their land. The same people caused the death of over 600,000 iraqis, and more than 3000 death of us Armies, with some 30,000+ majorly wounded, or disabled for the rest of their life. Now, they are demanding for more. With Bush, making thousands of our boys, sitting ducks, not caring the least for their lives, for Israeli missles, or bombs that would be entirely blamed on Iran.
So long the entire country is so afraid of the almight Jewish lobby and doesn’t ask the necessary question about the great threat Israeli pose to the US and the entire world, we’d be pushed around like cowards like Vince and no brain Skully.
February 12th, 2007 at 7:05 amThe pictures of the ammunition in question showed a 81 mm mortar round imprinted in English. How would the common Iran soldier, speaking and mabey reading Farsi, discern between HE and any other warhead writen in English. I may be wrong but when in Vietnam, captured Russian ordinance was identified in Russian. while Chinese ordinance was in Chinese.
February 12th, 2007 at 7:31 amAmerican soldiers in Iraq have been killed with American waepons so the Americam government must be to blame, right?
When do we bomb ourselves?
The Iranian government can secure their border and stop all smuggling if they wanted to, right?
We can teach them the our sucessful techniques for stopping border smuggling, since no people, drugs, or weapons ever get smuggled into our country!
February 12th, 2007 at 7:48 amwhy can’t TP just ban the trolls like this rachel/scully who just bombard the thread with nonsense? The name changes are not daily but by the minute. This is ridiculous. I had heard about the blogs being inundated with Isrealis as well. It must be true. Or Rove is working overtime getting these nutjobs to protect AIPAC and AEI and their “works” and “thoughts” and everything else they’ve been WRONG on for the last few years. THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG ON EVERYTHING. You’d think rachel/scully could actually see that. hahahaha, what a joke these trolls are. TP flush them down the toilet where they belong, please.
February 12th, 2007 at 10:25 amBottom line, the power-point presentation was about as convincing as Colin Powell going before the UN. Like Powell’s presentation, this presentation failed the smell test.
Are Iranian weapons making there way into Iraq. That is a clear possibility. But that does not make a case that there is a direct transfer from Iran to Sunni insurgents. In fact, that is improbable.
Hezbollah, in their recent war in southern Lebanon was able to destroy several Israeli tanks. It would be far more likely that some of these weapons are filtering back through Syria and into Iraq where the Sunni insurgents then target American vehicles.
Lastly, the markings on the weapons themselves are coming under question. Why would Iran mark their weapons in English and display dates in a different format than is normal for Iran. This just doesn’t pass the smell test.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:37 pmCalculating Return On Investment
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April 1st, 2008 at 8:11 amAccounting Financial Financial Success
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April 8th, 2008 at 1:15 amKarolyn
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April 13th, 2008 at 7:44 am