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	<title>Comments on: Kristol: Obama Is &#8216;The Opposite Of Lincoln,&#8217; Would Have Been Pro-Slavery</title>
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		<title>By: Dylan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-9/#comment-2325001</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you smell the reefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you smell the reefer?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=2325001', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cgb</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-9/#comment-1808133</link>
		<dc:creator>cgb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristol&#039;s usage of Lincoln&#039;s house divided speech is rather misguided.  First, Lincoln addressed that speech to the newly formed republican party as a means to unify the party in order to ensure success in forthcoming elections.  It does not imply or foreshadow the civil war.  Second, Lincoln and a large portion of the republican party did not want to abolish slavery in the south.  Rather, they wanted to contain it because they believed its end would come soon.  Kristol would have been better served to use Seward&#039;s &quot;irrepressible conflict between opposing and enduring forces&quot; speech which not only implied, but also foreshadowed a civil war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristol&#8217;s usage of Lincoln&#8217;s house divided speech is rather misguided.  First, Lincoln addressed that speech to the newly formed republican party as a means to unify the party in order to ensure success in forthcoming elections.  It does not imply or foreshadow the civil war.  Second, Lincoln and a large portion of the republican party did not want to abolish slavery in the south.  Rather, they wanted to contain it because they believed its end would come soon.  Kristol would have been better served to use Seward&#8217;s &#8220;irrepressible conflict between opposing and enduring forces&#8221; speech which not only implied, but also foreshadowed a civil war.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1808133', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: OgEvolves &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A self divided cannot stand</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-9/#comment-1744516</link>
		<dc:creator>OgEvolves &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A self divided cannot stand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] announcement alluded to Lincoln&#8217;s famous quote: &#8220;A house divided cannot stand.&#8221; Allegations of Obama as a would-beÂ supporter of slaveryÂ notwithstanding, the freshman presidential-hopeful [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] announcement alluded to Lincoln&#8217;s famous quote: &#8220;A house divided cannot stand.&#8221; Allegations of Obama as a would-beÂ supporter of slaveryÂ notwithstanding, the freshman presidential-hopeful [...]<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1744516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lev</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-9/#comment-1731681</link>
		<dc:creator>Lev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama should strike back and call him out on what he said.  Those comments are not only obscene, they are a reductio ad absurdum.  You can&#039;t make this stuff up--the right wingers have absolutely no sense and no shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama should strike back and call him out on what he said.  Those comments are not only obscene, they are a reductio ad absurdum.  You can&#8217;t make this stuff up&#8211;the right wingers have absolutely no sense and no shame.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1731681', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: allans2k7</title>
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		<dc:creator>allans2k7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristol is so removed from the real word that most of us live in that alone constitutes a crime and makes him evil.  These &#039;DC&#039; characters have little better to do than to dream up new ways of creating turmoil and discord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristol is so removed from the real word that most of us live in that alone constitutes a crime and makes him evil.  These &#8216;DC&#8217; characters have little better to do than to dream up new ways of creating turmoil and discord.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1728523', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: davis</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1724927</link>
		<dc:creator>davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 07:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful with that language regarding &quot;fight a civil war&quot;.

This war industrial complex is counting on their intelligence to continue
to cause those &quot;Civil Wars&quot; to keep them in business.

We don&#039;t want a war president, nor a civil war here in America, or anywhere, do we?

We want to be back in touch and stand on the principles
that founded Western thought, and our American ideals, first generated by Aristotle, the father of western thinking, 500 BC,  who said that the only way to insure ourselves that a speaker directed to an audience (as big or small as that is) can be discernable as authentic enough to trust with our futures, is when he embodies the three principles, or offices, of truth: Ethics, Logic, and Passion.   

When a speaker represents all three components in his speech, he can be trusted to lead.  If not, we can be amused, but not be used or abused by the power of character that has no intelligence or goodwill, resulting in a lack ethics.  

And don&#039;t swallow anything someone dishes out that doesn;t demonstrate a claim, for or against whatever they are railing about, because if there is no claim, there is no logic and that person is not being logical.  

And never ever trust a person who cannot display a passion for what he is up to, because without the temperature gauge of his commitment, the energy, the physics, and therefore the possibilities for action are limited, because it is passion that generates the ideas to act, and action causes energy.   Passion allows the will to complete the goal with Ethics and Logic intact.  


Don&#039;t be a fool, as predicted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful with that language regarding &#8220;fight a civil war&#8221;.</p>
<p>This war industrial complex is counting on their intelligence to continue<br />
to cause those &#8220;Civil Wars&#8221; to keep them in business.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t want a war president, nor a civil war here in America, or anywhere, do we?</p>
<p>We want to be back in touch and stand on the principles<br />
that founded Western thought, and our American ideals, first generated by Aristotle, the father of western thinking, 500 BC,  who said that the only way to insure ourselves that a speaker directed to an audience (as big or small as that is) can be discernable as authentic enough to trust with our futures, is when he embodies the three principles, or offices, of truth: Ethics, Logic, and Passion.   </p>
<p>When a speaker represents all three components in his speech, he can be trusted to lead.  If not, we can be amused, but not be used or abused by the power of character that has no intelligence or goodwill, resulting in a lack ethics.  </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t swallow anything someone dishes out that doesn;t demonstrate a claim, for or against whatever they are railing about, because if there is no claim, there is no logic and that person is not being logical.  </p>
<p>And never ever trust a person who cannot display a passion for what he is up to, because without the temperature gauge of his commitment, the energy, the physics, and therefore the possibilities for action are limited, because it is passion that generates the ideas to act, and action causes energy.   Passion allows the will to complete the goal with Ethics and Logic intact.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be a fool, as predicted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1724927', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1722979</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a message released Monday, al Qaeda&#039;s No. 2 leader called on Muslims to unite under Taliban leader Mullah Omar and stop attempting to form secular governments.

Calling the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan, allied with the United States, &quot;traitors,&quot; Zawahiri warned the United States &quot;is about to depart and abandon them, just as it abandoned their like in Vietnam.&quot;

Zawahiri also took aim at Democrats, directing a part of his message to them.

&quot;The people chose you due to your opposition to Bush&#039;s policy in Iraq, but it appears that you are marching with him to the same abyss, and it appears that you will take part with him in the defeat and certain failure, with God&#039;s permission,&quot; he said. 

&quot;And the American people shall discover that you are all one side of the same coin of tyranny, criminality and failure.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a message released Monday, al Qaeda&#8217;s No. 2 leader called on Muslims to unite under Taliban leader Mullah Omar and stop attempting to form secular governments.</p>
<p>Calling the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan, allied with the United States, &#8220;traitors,&#8221; Zawahiri warned the United States &#8220;is about to depart and abandon them, just as it abandoned their like in Vietnam.&#8221;</p>
<p>Zawahiri also took aim at Democrats, directing a part of his message to them.</p>
<p>&#8220;The people chose you due to your opposition to Bush&#8217;s policy in Iraq, but it appears that you are marching with him to the same abyss, and it appears that you will take part with him in the defeat and certain failure, with God&#8217;s permission,&#8221; he said. </p>
<p>&#8220;And the American people shall discover that you are all one side of the same coin of tyranny, criminality and failure.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1722979', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1722968</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>398: I believe in freedom.  Let whoever that is be exposed by his/her own words.  of course it could questioned whether or not that&#039;s a sincere posting or some attempt at rhetorical tactics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>398: I believe in freedom.  Let whoever that is be exposed by his/her own words.  of course it could questioned whether or not that&#8217;s a sincere posting or some attempt at rhetorical tactics.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1722968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: racetoinfinity</title>
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		<dc:creator>racetoinfinity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re comment no. 389 above - Comment by Terry Gabrich â€” February 12, 2007 @ 3:25 pm

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I thought the comments were moderated, no?

That kind of ignorant hate bile is allowed in?  I hope just a few as examples of the ignorant crapheads that still plague us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re comment no. 389 above &#8211; Comment by Terry Gabrich â€” February 12, 2007 @ 3:25 pm</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>I thought the comments were moderated, no?</p>
<p>That kind of ignorant hate bile is allowed in?  I hope just a few as examples of the ignorant crapheads that still plague us.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1722929', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1722904</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Wikipedia:

Historian Allan Nevins was harsh on Douglas, &quot;When it [slavery] paid it was good,&quot; wrote Nevins, &quot;and when it did not pay it was bad.&quot; 

Nevins consequently judged that Douglas did not &quot;regard a slaveholding society as one whit inferior to a free society.&quot; All in all, Nevins rather brutally assessed what he called Douglas&#039;s &quot;dim moral perceptions.&quot;[22] 

Graham Peck finds that several scholars have given brief opinions to the effect that Douglas was personally opposed to slavery, none of them with &quot;extensive arguments to justify the conclusion&quot;. He cites some more recent scholarship as (equally briefly) finding Douglas &quot;insensitive to the moral repugnance of slavery&quot; or even &quot;proslavery&quot;.


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Incidently, I live down the street from his grave. I never knew that until now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>Historian Allan Nevins was harsh on Douglas, &#8220;When it [slavery] paid it was good,&#8221; wrote Nevins, &#8220;and when it did not pay it was bad.&#8221; </p>
<p>Nevins consequently judged that Douglas did not &#8220;regard a slaveholding society as one whit inferior to a free society.&#8221; All in all, Nevins rather brutally assessed what he called Douglas&#8217;s &#8220;dim moral perceptions.&#8221;[22] </p>
<p>Graham Peck finds that several scholars have given brief opinions to the effect that Douglas was personally opposed to slavery, none of them with &#8220;extensive arguments to justify the conclusion&#8221;. He cites some more recent scholarship as (equally briefly) finding Douglas &#8220;insensitive to the moral repugnance of slavery&#8221; or even &#8220;proslavery&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Incidently, I live down the street from his grave. I never knew that until now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1722904', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: fdsfsdf</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1722779</link>
		<dc:creator>fdsfsdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelievable,

Stephen Douglas was anti-slavery.  He actually wrote the law that was passed that ended slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable,</p>
<p>Stephen Douglas was anti-slavery.  He actually wrote the law that was passed that ended slavery.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1722779', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: portnoy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1721877</link>
		<dc:creator>portnoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 01:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i watched this moron on sunday morning - dont ask me why;  Why he resorts to saying that obama says &quot;why cant we all just get along&quot; = obama is rodney king.

I know Rodney King and Barack Obama is no Rodney King.

Nice try mr. kristal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i watched this moron on sunday morning &#8211; dont ask me why;  Why he resorts to saying that obama says &#8220;why cant we all just get along&#8221; = obama is rodney king.</p>
<p>I know Rodney King and Barack Obama is no Rodney King.</p>
<p>Nice try mr. kristal.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1721877', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Opinionated</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opinionated</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristal&#039;s comments are typical of Republican intimidation tactics.  Leaving Iraq does not &quot;appease&quot; the terrorists - it removes their handiest target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristal&#8217;s comments are typical of Republican intimidation tactics.  Leaving Iraq does not &#8220;appease&#8221; the terrorists &#8211; it removes their handiest target.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1720166', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: God is a Nihilist</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1720093</link>
		<dc:creator>God is a Nihilist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 22:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The U.S.A. is still the best country on this planet!?&quot;

If trailer parks were actually amusement parks, which they actually are!! Disney World is making a great amount of money off of black people.........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The U.S.A. is still the best country on this planet!?&#8221;</p>
<p>If trailer parks were actually amusement parks, which they actually are!! Disney World is making a great amount of money off of black people&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1720093', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1719770</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Without the critical ingredient of an individual(s) who knows what needs to be done and how, your commodity laborers would have no market value at all.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” February 12, 2007 @ 1:16 am&lt;/em&gt;

That was a rather long stint at the trough...

I see you&#039;ve failed to answer my questions or address my points.  Figures...

Tell us exactly how the master minds will function without the laborers.  Cause I can tell you that the laborers will function without the talking heads...  

And Jason, you&#039;re just one grotesque talking head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Without the critical ingredient of an individual(s) who knows what needs to be done and how, your commodity laborers would have no market value at all.<br />
Comment by Jason M. Hendler â€” February 12, 2007 @ 1:16 am</em></p>
<p>That was a rather long stint at the trough&#8230;</p>
<p>I see you&#8217;ve failed to answer my questions or address my points.  Figures&#8230;</p>
<p>Tell us exactly how the master minds will function without the laborers.  Cause I can tell you that the laborers will function without the talking heads&#8230;  </p>
<p>And Jason, you&#8217;re just one grotesque talking head.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1719770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: unbelievable</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/obama-slavery/comment-page-8/#comment-1719724</link>
		<dc:creator>unbelievable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Nothing but silence.&lt;/em&gt;

Unlike you, we have lives and other things to do.

&lt;em&gt;Democrats are no good liars.
Comment by Vince P â€” February 11, 2007 @ 5:50 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Says the guy who who told us he &lt;em&gt;wasn&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; a Christian...

You do know that Republicans hate gays, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Nothing but silence.</em></p>
<p>Unlike you, we have lives and other things to do.</p>
<p><em>Democrats are no good liars.<br />
Comment by Vince P â€” February 11, 2007 @ 5:50 pm</em></p>
<p>Says the guy who who told us he <em>wasn&#8217;t</em> a Christian&#8230;</p>
<p>You do know that Republicans hate gays, right?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1719724', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ozzinny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ozzinny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m an Australian living many years in the USA but also a former resident of the UK (another of Murdoch&#039;s playgrounds). I know way more than I would like to about Murdoch and the snide little Howard.

John Howard&#039;s Iraq policies are very unpopular in Australia. He is facing the prospect of high negatives and a resurgent opposition leadership facing the next election. Howard is the supreme &quot;agent provocatuer&quot;, so there may be some hidden local strategy in his statements. But more likely the White House asked this as a favor from Howard. The pattern is clear. Think of the recent attempts to spike the debate regarding Obama&#039;s alleged attendance at an Islamic Maddrassa and now Kristol&#039;s pathetic and historically false zinger. The right is obviously very worried about facing Obama as opposed to Clinton - so expect a lot more lies and subterfuge. Obama&#039;s response to Howard has been very good. He should also openly ask Howard if it&#039;s okay for American politicians to interfere in the Australian electoral process.

As for Bill Kristol - what a waste of hot air. His dreadful magazine has been heavily subsidized by Rupert Murdoch (mercenary extraordinaire) since its inception. Kristol&#039;s daddy Irving gave him his public prominence by birth and he then stood out as Dan Quayle&#039;s chief of staff in what seems to be his only day job of note. What a history of achievement - making an over-his-head fool sounding halfway presentable and living on the dole handed out by a (mostly) tits &amp; ass media mogul with an extremist agenda and a much deeper sense of insecurity than you might imagine. Think about it - Kristol lives in that teensy weensy intellectual space between his neocon glossy rag and FOX News - both Murdoch playthings. How pathetic. Nobody can accuse him of independence of mind. Somehow, Kristol&#039;s pseudo-intellectual demeanor continues to fool people that he has an original or enlightened thought in his head.  The fact is that Kristol is a political hack of the most thuggish variety, only with a little more icing (or is it makeup?) on the exterior. Kristol is a fully vested member of a club of extreme righties that lurk below the radar only to surface every now and again to poison the public debate with anti-progressive invective. Watch him and you will see his modus operandi again and again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m an Australian living many years in the USA but also a former resident of the UK (another of Murdoch&#8217;s playgrounds). I know way more than I would like to about Murdoch and the snide little Howard.</p>
<p>John Howard&#8217;s Iraq policies are very unpopular in Australia. He is facing the prospect of high negatives and a resurgent opposition leadership facing the next election. Howard is the supreme &#8220;agent provocatuer&#8221;, so there may be some hidden local strategy in his statements. But more likely the White House asked this as a favor from Howard. The pattern is clear. Think of the recent attempts to spike the debate regarding Obama&#8217;s alleged attendance at an Islamic Maddrassa and now Kristol&#8217;s pathetic and historically false zinger. The right is obviously very worried about facing Obama as opposed to Clinton &#8211; so expect a lot more lies and subterfuge. Obama&#8217;s response to Howard has been very good. He should also openly ask Howard if it&#8217;s okay for American politicians to interfere in the Australian electoral process.</p>
<p>As for Bill Kristol &#8211; what a waste of hot air. His dreadful magazine has been heavily subsidized by Rupert Murdoch (mercenary extraordinaire) since its inception. Kristol&#8217;s daddy Irving gave him his public prominence by birth and he then stood out as Dan Quayle&#8217;s chief of staff in what seems to be his only day job of note. What a history of achievement &#8211; making an over-his-head fool sounding halfway presentable and living on the dole handed out by a (mostly) tits &amp; ass media mogul with an extremist agenda and a much deeper sense of insecurity than you might imagine. Think about it &#8211; Kristol lives in that teensy weensy intellectual space between his neocon glossy rag and FOX News &#8211; both Murdoch playthings. How pathetic. Nobody can accuse him of independence of mind. Somehow, Kristol&#8217;s pseudo-intellectual demeanor continues to fool people that he has an original or enlightened thought in his head.  The fact is that Kristol is a political hack of the most thuggish variety, only with a little more icing (or is it makeup?) on the exterior. Kristol is a fully vested member of a club of extreme righties that lurk below the radar only to surface every now and again to poison the public debate with anti-progressive invective. Watch him and you will see his modus operandi again and again and again.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1719252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Terry Gabrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Gabrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristol is a jew, so what do you expect. Besides, Lincoln could care less about slavery. He even said that. Before his assassination, Lincoln wanted to send all blacks back to Africa. Eventually, that is where the blacks are going to go. Obama is an idiot, and has no business running for President. Besides, it is illegal. He is a hybrid, and God doesn&#039;t want his people Israel (the white race) to be ruled by a black, hybrid, or a woman. So the next President will probably be Hillary (a lesbian), and her Vice President Obama; a stupid incompetent hybrid. Does anybody see assassination in the making. It will probably happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristol is a jew, so what do you expect. Besides, Lincoln could care less about slavery. He even said that. Before his assassination, Lincoln wanted to send all blacks back to Africa. Eventually, that is where the blacks are going to go. Obama is an idiot, and has no business running for President. Besides, it is illegal. He is a hybrid, and God doesn&#8217;t want his people Israel (the white race) to be ruled by a black, hybrid, or a woman. So the next President will probably be Hillary (a lesbian), and her Vice President Obama; a stupid incompetent hybrid. Does anybody see assassination in the making. It will probably happen.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1718980', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
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		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by Salvador #386

&lt;strong&gt;...we&#039;ve got what&#039;s called...

...an OVERWHELMING&quot; body of evidence...

...that has prompted our view on Mr. Kristol...

...what have YOU been looking at?&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
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<p><strong>&#8230;we&#8217;ve got what&#8217;s called&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;an OVERWHELMING&#8221; body of evidence&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;that has prompted our view on Mr. Kristol&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;what have YOU been looking at?</strong><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1718300', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tom baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmmmm. sounds like righty&#039;s and whiteys is mighty afraid of the Senator from IL.

extra troll attention on any thread is evidence of righty&#039;s priority list. funny they think they can sway participants here the way they sway poll respondents with loaded questions and false choices. obviously they&#039;re using the same pr companies that they&#039;ve used in the past for direct-mail and cold-call operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmmmm. sounds like righty&#8217;s and whiteys is mighty afraid of the Senator from IL.</p>
<p>extra troll attention on any thread is evidence of righty&#8217;s priority list. funny they think they can sway participants here the way they sway poll respondents with loaded questions and false choices. obviously they&#8217;re using the same pr companies that they&#8217;ve used in the past for direct-mail and cold-call operations.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=1717939', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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