Comments on: U.S. sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 03:26:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Think Progress » Blog Archive » CentCom Commander Fallon: Attack On Iran ‘Will Not Happen On My Watch’ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-4355416 Think Progress » Blog Archive » CentCom Commander Fallon: Attack On Iran ‘Will Not Happen On My Watch’ Wed, 19 Mar 2008 20:29:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-4355416 [...] warned that some Bush advisers secretly wanted an excuse to attack Iran. “They intend to be as provocative as possible and make the Iranians do something [America] would be forced to retaliate for,” she told [...] [...] warned that some Bush advisers secretly wanted an excuse to attack Iran. “They intend to be as provocative as possible and make the Iranians do something [America] would be forced to retaliate for,” she told [...]

]]> By: No More Incumbents New Hampshire - Promoting new candidates against Incumbents in New Hampshire » Bush vs. Chavez in a Battle of Compassion http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-2192099 No More Incumbents New Hampshire - Promoting new candidates against Incumbents in New Hampshire » Bush vs. Chavez in a Battle of Compassion Thu, 15 Mar 2007 11:21:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-2192099 [...] America. The figurehead of an administration whose recent attempts at diplomacy have come with carrier strike groups, George Bush has been met with both open arms and violent protests. The Presidents endeavor is [...] [...] America. The figurehead of an administration whose recent attempts at diplomacy have come with carrier strike groups, George Bush has been met with both open arms and violent protests. The Presidents endeavor is [...]

]]> By: Gaetano http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1876043 Gaetano Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:56:22 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1876043 To be brutally honest - If you're American, scared, and denouncing Bush rather than Iran's madman - then above all people you really are to be most pitied as a cowardly gutless traitor, a gutless wonder, and unfit for your citizenship who should be ridiculed mercilessly until you never want to show your face, or open your mouth again anywhere in the world. And to be even more brutally honest - you make me want to spit, because you disgust me. And I hope you tell your mother I said so, too. To be brutally honest – If you’re American, scared, and denouncing Bush rather than Iran’s madman – then above all people you really are to be most pitied as a cowardly gutless traitor, a gutless wonder, and unfit for your citizenship who should be ridiculed mercilessly until you never want to show your face, or open your mouth again anywhere in the world. And to be even more brutally honest – you make me want to spit, because you disgust me. And I hope you tell your mother I said so, too.

]]> By: Monique http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1874801 Monique Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:53:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1874801 <strong>I think that all this stuff is stupid. American soldiers should not be fighting a war and wasting their lives for a war that does not concern us. Many of the troops in Iraq have families with no husband or father. I myself lost my brother in the war and it wasn't because he wanted to go. The government drafted him in and made him go.</strong> I think that all this stuff is stupid. American soldiers should not be fighting a war and wasting their lives for a war that does not concern us. Many of the troops in Iraq have families with no husband or father. I myself lost my brother in the war and it wasn’t because he wanted to go. The government drafted him in and made him go.

]]> By: Matt http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1869403 Matt Fri, 23 Feb 2007 10:55:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1869403 <strong>SEND IN THE B's!!!!</strong> Iran's been asking for it for years!!!! What are we waiting for???? We really need to invade Iran but the politicians don't have the guts for it. We need General Patton!!! SEND IN THE B’s!!!!

Iran’s been asking for it for years!!!!

What are we waiting for????

We really need to invade Iran but the politicians don’t have the guts for it. We need General Patton!!!

]]> By: mr.indy http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1825635 mr.indy Tue, 20 Feb 2007 12:23:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1825635 I am a registered indepenint voter who reads info from both sides of the spectrum, and would like to state a few things. 1. to go to "WAR" with Iran will take approval from congress 2.Congress voted on the "WAR" with Iraq based on the best intel at that time (Hillary still stands by her vote) 3. We (the mass public) do not know the real threat/ or lack of threat Iran posses with "Nuks"because we do have the highest clearence to see all the intel 4. Iran has pubicly said they hate both America and Isrel I am a registered indepenint voter who reads info from both sides of the spectrum, and would like to state a few things.
1. to go to “WAR” with Iran will take approval from congress
2.Congress voted on the “WAR” with Iraq based on the best intel at that time (Hillary still stands by her vote)
3. We (the mass public) do not know the real threat/ or lack of threat Iran posses with “Nuks”because we do have the highest clearence to see all the intel
4. Iran has pubicly said they hate both America and Isrel

]]> By: Larry http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1819076 Larry Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:33:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1819076 I think that an animal, a species or a society that is too stupid to recognize a mortal threat and chooses to do nothing about it deserves the dust-bin of history. Iran declared war on the United States in 1979 and has been at war with us ever since. The islamic revolution should have been killed while it was in the cradle; at a time when international conventions would condone retaliation for the attack and occupation of the US embassy. But unfortunately at that time the country was ran by people that think along the lines of many commentors here. And look where we find oursleves; facing an even greater and more emboldened threat. The Iranians understand only one thing - force - and will play people as chumps that try to negotiate by lesser means. People accuse President Bush of not talking to the Iranians. I think these carrier groups speak quite clearly in a language they understand. I think that an animal, a species or a society that is too stupid to recognize a mortal threat and chooses to do nothing about it deserves the dust-bin of history.

Iran declared war on the United States in 1979 and has been at war with us ever since. The islamic revolution should have been killed while it was in the cradle; at a time when international conventions would condone retaliation for the attack and occupation of the US embassy. But unfortunately at that time the country was ran by people that think along the lines of many commentors here. And look where we find oursleves; facing an even greater and more emboldened threat.

The Iranians understand only one thing – force – and will play people as chumps that try to negotiate by lesser means. People accuse President Bush of not talking to the Iranians. I think these carrier groups speak quite clearly in a language they understand.

]]> By: Buck Johnson http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1757282 Buck Johnson Fri, 16 Feb 2007 00:18:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1757282 Do not believe what president Bush says, there is going to be a staged or provoked attack against one of our ships and he will say that he had to retaliate to protect the troops. Over the past months he has been saying over and over that protection of the troops is his priority. Yesterdays press conference shows that he will say that a faction of the Iranian govt. launched an attack and the US had to bomb a few buildings in Iran to get at them. He will push and push until they do something and a massive attack will be launched. My one fear is that I hope Bush hasn't underestimated the ground to ship missiles that Iran bought from Russia. With that many ships and 3 carriers in that small body of water, it will be a disaster if they hit and sink 3 of our carriers. Do not believe what president Bush says, there is going to be a staged or provoked attack against one of our ships and he will say that he had to retaliate to protect the troops. Over the past months he has been saying over and over that protection of the troops is his priority. Yesterdays press conference shows that he will say that a faction of the Iranian govt. launched an attack and the US had to bomb a few buildings in Iran to get at them.
He will push and push until they do something and a massive attack will be launched. My one fear is that I hope Bush hasn’t underestimated the ground to ship missiles that Iran bought from Russia. With that many ships and 3 carriers in that small body of water, it will be a disaster if they hit and sink 3 of our carriers.

]]> By: Think Progress » U.S. sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. « Throwing Stones http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1755187 Think Progress » U.S. sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. « Throwing Stones Thu, 15 Feb 2007 20:10:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1755187 [...] sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. Posted by throwingstones under Politics  Think Progress » U.S. sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. At least one former White House official contends that some Bush advisers secretly want an excuse [...] [...] sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. Posted by throwingstones under Politics  Think Progress » U.S. sending third carrier strike group to Gulf. At least one former White House official contends that some Bush advisers secretly want an excuse [...]

]]> By: Gary Denton http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1725552 Gary Denton Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:17:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1725552 The USS Enterprise is supposed to be at Norfolk but I can find no news recently. I see one local newspaper serviceman report that they will be out to see for 4 months dated early Feb.. The USS Ronald Reagan has been surge deployed to the "Western Pacific" according to the Navy but the local media in both California and Hawaii say "Persian Gulf" - meaning Arabian Sea. There have been rumors since early January that the Reagan woukld be the third carrier deployed for the air attack. The USS Enterprise is supposed to be at Norfolk but I can find no news recently. I see one local newspaper serviceman report that they will be out to see for 4 months dated early Feb..

The USS Ronald Reagan has been surge deployed to the “Western Pacific” according to the Navy but the local media in both California and Hawaii say “Persian Gulf” – meaning Arabian Sea.

There have been rumors since early January that the Reagan woukld be the third carrier deployed for the air attack.

]]> By: Sgt.Pepper http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1724451 Sgt.Pepper Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:14:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1724451 at 54,this viet vet been there done that,protest,march email,wont get it.Something else has to happen to get there attention,not advocating anarchy,already got it in Iraq,what good's it done!No,we gotta get thier attention where they can't ognore or avoid it.Apparently voting didn't do it,so gimme some suggestions cause i'm fresh out of ideas!Boycott walmart?Can't touch Hallibertan or criminal media.Have we reached a point of no return? at 54,this viet vet been there done that,protest,march email,wont get it.Something else has to happen to get there attention,not advocating anarchy,already got it in Iraq,what good’s it done!No,we gotta get thier attention where they can’t ognore or avoid it.Apparently voting didn’t do it,so gimme some suggestions cause i’m fresh out of ideas!Boycott walmart?Can’t touch Hallibertan or criminal media.Have we reached a point of no return?

]]> By: Joseph Buchanan http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1723837 Joseph Buchanan Tue, 13 Feb 2007 04:39:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1723837 Whoa! look at that picture. Which one of those two looks completely demented? Whoa! look at that picture. Which one of those two looks completely demented?

]]> By: Unterseeboot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1718198 Unterseeboot Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:03:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1718198 Yo, Jeff. Do you still not understand that Iraq, where Bush is bringin' it to them on their land as you put it, played no role in 9-11? If he really wanted to go after the perpetrators, he'd have his army fighting in Pakistan, where bin Laden is hiding out, and in Saudi Arabia, where the Wahabist al Queda movement had its origins and where 15 of the 19 highjackers came from. Moreover, if al Queda had the ability to nuke us, our presence in Iraq would not stop them, rather it would motivate them. Let's see, we've aggrevated the Sunni muslims by trashing Iraq and now you want to give an encore performance for the Shias in Iran. You're just brilliant, if stupidity is genius. Yo, Jeff. Do you still not understand that Iraq, where Bush is bringin’ it to them on their land as you put it, played no role in 9-11? If he really wanted to go after the perpetrators, he’d have his army fighting in Pakistan, where bin Laden is hiding out, and in Saudi Arabia, where the Wahabist al Queda movement had its origins and where 15 of the 19 highjackers came from. Moreover, if al Queda had the ability to nuke us, our presence in Iraq would not stop them, rather it would motivate them. Let’s see, we’ve aggrevated the Sunni muslims by trashing Iraq and now you want to give an encore performance for the Shias in Iran. You’re just brilliant, if stupidity is genius.

]]> By: waltzingGoose http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1717056 waltzingGoose Mon, 12 Feb 2007 17:49:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1717056 Perhaps we should hope to lose the next World War. Perhaps we should hope to lose the next World War.

]]> By: Jeff http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1713870 Jeff Mon, 12 Feb 2007 13:39:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1713870 Neville Chamberlain read this statement to a cheering crowd in front of 10 Downing St. and said; "My good friends this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honor. I believe it is peace in our time." For most of the contributors to this blog, this is their kind of politician. 9/11 happened. Hiroshima happened. You put 9/11 perps with Hiroshima level weapons and you get 8 million American's dead and millions more slowly dieing. Bush is bringing the war to them on their land an in their neighbourhoods. It's grotesque. It's horrible. It's reality. If the Depression and the punitive measures in the Treaty of Versailles created an opening for Hitler; surely the Iraq War has created an opportunity for Ahmadinejad. What shall we do now -- today? We can't go back and time and instruct Floridians how to vote. What do you do NOW. It is quite possible that retreat is now the worst of some bad options. Like the millions of Germans who never wanted war, the Iranians may be in for it. May God bless and protect them and help us find peace this time. Neville Chamberlain read this statement to a cheering crowd in front of 10 Downing St. and said;

“My good friends this is the second time in our history that there has come back from Germany to Downing Street peace with honor. I believe it is peace in our time.”

For most of the contributors to this blog, this is their kind of politician.

9/11 happened. Hiroshima happened. You put 9/11 perps with Hiroshima level weapons and you get 8 million American’s dead and millions more slowly dieing.

Bush is bringing the war to them on their land an in their neighbourhoods. It’s grotesque. It’s horrible. It’s reality.

If the Depression and the punitive measures in the Treaty of Versailles created an opening for Hitler; surely the Iraq War has created an opportunity for Ahmadinejad. What shall we do now — today? We can’t go back and time and instruct Floridians how to vote. What do you do NOW. It is quite possible that retreat is now the worst of some bad options. Like the millions of Germans who never wanted war, the Iranians may be in for it.

May God bless and protect them and help us find peace this time.

]]> By: joneden http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1712322 joneden Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:27:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1712322 If Vladimir does not think Bush knows what he is doing in the Middle East, he couldn't be more wrong. President Bush is BRINGING IT ON just as he promised Pastor Ted and his flock that he would for their 30 million votes. They hope their plan to light up Iran this spring (with underground nukes) may be enough to finally get all the separate fires that Bush has either set or fanned--Israel 's occupied territories, Lebanon, Iraq of course, and Afghanistan--to coalesce into that final conflagration from which all the good folk will be able to ascend into Heaven, that glorious place where a palace and a whole fleet of Hummers awaits each and every family. Jon The above is an excerpt from an irreverent response to criticism of the latest global warming report. For a good laugh and/or cry go to http://EcosystemCollapse.com/ellen.html For a thoroughly not funny piece, see: Connecting the dots: From human behaviors to Ecosystem decline http://StudentsForTheEarth.org If Vladimir does not think Bush knows what he is doing in the Middle East, he couldn’t be more wrong.

President Bush is BRINGING IT ON just as he promised Pastor Ted and his flock that he would for their 30 million votes.

They hope their plan to light up Iran this spring (with underground nukes) may be enough to finally get all the separate fires that Bush has either set or fanned–Israel ’s occupied territories, Lebanon, Iraq of course, and Afghanistan–to coalesce into that final conflagration from which all the good folk will be able to ascend into Heaven, that glorious place where a palace and a whole fleet of Hummers awaits each and every family.

Jon
The above is an excerpt from an irreverent response to criticism of the latest global warming report. For a good laugh and/or cry go to http://EcosystemCollapse.com/ellen.html

For a thoroughly not funny piece, see:
Connecting the dots: From human behaviors to Ecosystem decline
http://StudentsForTheEarth.org

]]> By: Unterseeboot http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1712192 Unterseeboot Mon, 12 Feb 2007 09:06:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1712192 The Repukes will never vote to impeach Chancellor Busch. They won't even vote to allow debate on "the surge" in the senate. They will have to be burned out of the Reichstag along with der Fuhrer. Even the man (James Baker III) who helped steal the election for him can talk no sense into him. His father and all that king's men (Scowcroft, Eagleburger, et al) can talk no sense into him. He does the bidding only of Satan (Cheney) himself. Look, he even threw Rumsfeld under the bus for a slight policy disagreement and signed on Mr. Iran-Contra (Gates) in his place. You don't think he cares about human life, do you? For those of you who recognised it, yes, the man is in a death spiral--and he's plans to take the world down with himself. The Repukes will never vote to impeach Chancellor Busch. They won’t even vote to allow debate on “the surge” in the senate. They will have to be burned out of the Reichstag along with der Fuhrer. Even the man (James Baker III) who helped steal the election for him can talk no sense into him. His father and all that king’s men (Scowcroft, Eagleburger, et al) can talk no sense into him. He does the bidding only of Satan (Cheney) himself. Look, he even threw Rumsfeld under the bus for a slight policy disagreement and signed on Mr. Iran-Contra (Gates) in his place. You don’t think he cares about human life, do you? For those of you who recognised it, yes, the man is in a death spiral–and he’s plans to take the world down with himself.

]]> By: ATA http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1711752 ATA Mon, 12 Feb 2007 08:18:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1711752 Back around 1967, We the People of the United States started marching in the streets, protesting, and soon it became something the 'government' could no longer ignore. Ultimately it stopped a war. Its time to do it again. Somehow, the PNAC direction is still a very real goal to these people, they appear to be so deluded that they think it would work. It is now become our duty to the constitution to "throw da bums out!" Back around 1967, We the People of the United States
started marching in the streets, protesting, and soon it became something the ‘government’ could no longer ignore.

Ultimately it stopped a war.

Its time to do it again.

Somehow, the PNAC direction is still a very real goal to these people, they appear to be so deluded that they think it would work.

It is now become our duty to the constitution to “throw da bums out!”

]]> By: Xenon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1711146 Xenon Mon, 12 Feb 2007 07:21:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1711146 <em><strong>Protest.</strong></em> Protest.

]]> By: marlow http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/comment-page-4/#comment-1711006 marlow Mon, 12 Feb 2007 06:59:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/11/the-hidden-war-with-iran/#comment-1711006 testing... testing…

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