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30-60.

By Nico Pitney on Feb 12th, 2007 at 11:50 am

30-60.

The number of Republican House members who will back the nonbinding resolution opposing escalation in Iraq, according to Rep. Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), “which would be the strongest repudiation of Bush’s Iraq policy from Republicans since the war began nearly four years ago.”

UPDATE: The text of the resolution is now public:

(1) Congress and the American people will continue to support and protect the members of the United States Armed Forces who are serving or who have served bravely and honorably in Iraq, and;
(2) Congress disapproves of the decision of President George W. Bush announced on January 19, 2007, to deploy more than 20,000 additional United States combat troops to Iraq.




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41 Responses to “30-60.”

  1. ForTruth Says:

    Trolls read the text.


  2. Wayne Says:

    A non-binding resolution is a total waste of time.
    Now where are the articles of Impeachment, for the laws that this Adminstration has broken, Nancy?


  3. katy Says:

    30 - 60 is a pretty big spread...

    if it passes, it's good, it's historic, it's a f'n start.
    ...


  4. VerbalKint Says:

    Congress disapproves the CIC? He thrives on disapproval by his betters.


  5. tom baker Says:

    ....so there are a few R's left with the presence of mind to understand what will win or lose them their next election....it'll be fun to watch more of those rats scurrying off the SS W over the coming months.


  6. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    A non-binding resolution is a total waste of time.
    Now where are the articles of Impeachment, for the laws that this Adminstration has broken, Nancy?

    Comment by Wayne

    There is a psychological principle that indicates that people who take a small committment toward something will tend to take an even greater committment in the future (the salesman's tactic of getting a potential buyer to say "yes" early and often is an application). The non-binding resolutions are, I hope, a prelude to greater committment from the Republicans, who would have to at least not block an impeachment for it to go forward. If the Democrats simply jumped in with impeachment, I would bet that it would fail. This way, perhaps...


  7. Jay Randal Says:

    Non-binding resolutions mean nothing! Congress must end the Iraq Fiasco War or resign with Bush in disgrace!


  8. tom baker Says:

    Where are the trollies?? Why are they not calling for the heads of these traitorous, turncoat Republican'ts????


  9. Otto Rank Says:

    from this week's New Yorker:

    "The United Nations Convention Against Torture, which took on the force of federal law when it was ratified by the Senate in 1994, specifies that “no exceptional circumstances, whatsoever, whether a state of war or a threat of war, internal political instability or any other public emergency, may be invoked as a justification of torture.”)"

    Why won't Congress act?


  10. mparker Says:

    (1) Congress and the American people will continue to support and protect the members of the United States Armed Forces who are serving or who have served bravely and honorably in Iraq, and,

    The pre-emptive attack on Iran is a precautionary measure, for their own protection, based on our ginned up evidence.


  11. criticalthinker Says:

    re#7 PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC)

    Just like you cannot be "half" preganant, you cannot be "half" guilty!

    George W Bush has commited crimes agaainst humanity by starting an UNNECESSARY war, and many impeachable acts, but we know for a fact that he broke a federal statute because he admitted it on national television.

    A federal judge ruled that he broke a federal statute, therefore he should be impeached, arrested, and charged.

    If his "crackshot" lawyer Gonzalez is right about that federal statute being unconstitutional, then Bush has to prove it in court, because just because he thinks so is not good enough!

    I think gun control laws are unconstitutional, but if I violate those laws, I will be arrested and will have to prove my case in court.

    Unless you believe "George Bush" is a king and does not have to follow the laws of the United States, there is no need to wait to impeach him.


  12. ForTruth Says:

    No difference between Dems and Repubs.


  13. Wayne Says:

    If the Democrats simply jumped in with impeachment, I would bet that it would fail. ---PLC

    Oh, they have the votes in the House to pass impeachment without 1 republican vote. The problem comes to the Senate, and how many will put a blind eye on the lawbreaking by the administration. Like LIEberman.


  14. karlX Says:

    #12#

    Why won’t Congress act?

    They are in bed with the republicans.

    Comment by Spudge_Boy — February 12, 2007 @ 1:01 pm

    eckzactly


  15. Jason M. Hendler Says:

    Democrats are flacid. They won't even fight for a retreat.


  16. Hunter Morrow Says:

    Ooh, a non-binding resolution stating "disapproval". Whoopity freaking do! Whats next, a non-binding resolution to send Timmy to his room without dessert if he doesn't finish his math homework?
    Wake me when the real investigations, impeachment and criminal, start, otherwise let me nap.


  17. Wayne Says:

    Democrats are flacid.
    ---- Jason M. Hendler

    Jason is an expert on things flacid.


  18. hit_escape Says:

    Is this another sucker trick by the republics so they can vote against it?


  19. SKdeA Says:

    Oh please ban Pastor Rachel...


  20. CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Says:

    Good strategy by the Democrats. Keep it simple and see which Republicans oppose. Once the opposition is exposed, then move in to stop the funding for further activities and then label the opposition as "traitors to democracy" and "not supporting our troops".


  21. CoffinsDrapedWithFlags Says:

    Would pastor Rachel also be the poster from Isreal?


  22. Political Orphan Says:

    Even if everyone who says they're going to back this useless scolding does back it, there's no point. It accomplishes nothing. You don't go at a charging mad bull with a pea shooter, you dumbasses! Now how about trying something that actually makes a difference!


  23. ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus Says:

    Democrats are flacid. They won’t even fight for a retreat.
    Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 12, 2007 @ 1:14 pm

    What an easy shot! A single republican that claims to be Ivy League educated, call others flaccid, while misspelling the word! One can only hope Jason is more competent as his job, than he is at spelling and politics! Then again, he's here when he's supposed to be working...

    Tell me Jason, when you think Democrats are flaccid, do you think about the GOP that accomplished nothing for the last 2 years in congress, and could only act like lapdogs to King George? Or do you think of yourself, powerless, failed, corrupt, inept? If you want to find flaccid, look no further than your own life Jason and the life of your failed political party and this failed presidency. You're all fine examples of the trait!

    The dems are just trying to keep you from destroying the military and the country while fixing your problems. While you'd love for us to simply 'break' the military so you could say told you so, like a 3 year old - we're much more responsible than you'll ever be little boy.


  24. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    critical thinker, Wayne

    I did not say that Bush should not be impeached because I definitely think he should be. And there may well be enough Democratic votes to impeach, but a fillibuster by the Republicans is a likely tactic that will stall the impeachment proceedings and get no where. The Democrats have to use all the parliamentary procedures, persuasion, and public pressure they can muster to inch enough Republicans in that direction. Impeachment is a political action, not a criminal indictment. Therefore, I still maintain that these resolutions, while slow and by themselves not going to get us out of Iraq or Bush impeached, are still useful for moving the debates.


  25. PatrioticLiberalChristian(PLC) Says:

    I'd rather be a flaccid peace-loving Democrat than a rabid war-mongering Republican.


  26. Publicus Says:

    The text is pretty lame....they couldn't even reverse the order and make disapproval of escalation #1?!

    Time for a BINDING resolution...and cutting off all funds.


  27. Publicus Says:

    As the death count grows higher, Dems and Republicans who don't want to lose their jobs will be racing to get us out of Iraq...and distance themselves from Bush.

    But that will be too late. We DO need a whole new cast of characters who must be reminded that THEY SERVE US. Let's start by electing Obama who has never wavered in opposition to the war, or support for the Constitution.


  28. Wayne Says:

    Let’s start by electing Obama who has never wavered in opposition to the war, or support for the Constitution. -- Publicus

    Has Obama used his power as a Senator to shut down the Senate to make them focus on the issue? Has he introduced any censor measure? No?

    Then he is as effective as Hillary, that is to say he is all talk and no action.
    I not vote for any current member of Congress that sits by twiddling their thumbs instead of using every option available, while this corrupt adminstration gets away with breaking the law every day with NO action from Congress to stop them.

    Obama is just as guilty as any other member of congress in his own inaction.

    Personally I think we should have thrown the whole lot out last time, and we should do it next time.


  29. Publicus Says:

    Wayne --

    Well, Feingold is my top choice, but he's not running...


  30. jake3988 Says:

    Too bad the senate republicans are pansies


  31. jake3988 Says:

    And yes, we are wasting billions of dollars and the war isn't going well.

    But if we pull out now the entire country will devolve FURTHER into a civil war making us look even worse.

    So... because of Bush and republican-led congress, we're stuck there. There ain't anything we can do about it.


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