Just another part of the Republican war on Science, as fictionalized in “CSI: Redstate,” where the criminals always get away ’cause there are no dental records and their DNA is all the same.
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Right on Big Papa, I totally agree. We must not forget that some people have lost their livelihoods trying to prevent the debacle in Iraq, and they deserve to be recognized, and hopefully rewarded.
Question. If this trial goes through and it is determined by the Court that this agent was fired for refusing to “cook” the info about WMD, what does that do to Bush when it comes to impeachment?
In short, can this provide the “smoking gun” to start impeachment?
I appreciate your belief in the bible, however, it is your right to do so, it is NOT your right to impose YOUR belief on others. A democracy assures us of that. Now, since it appears that we are losing democracy in this country, we that post here and other places, find a forum to express our thoughts and beliefs without being shouted down. I love this country and weep for it’s being dismantled as crudely as is being done, whether you believe that or not does not change the facts of reality.
Your bible also states thou shalt not kill…….but how many innocents have been killed by this administration? I think looking at the way we are being ‘governed’ and those doing the ‘governing’ need to be looked at and held accountable for their actions, not blaming others but by looking at self and one’s own motives. I don’t have all of the answers but I do know an elephant when I see one, and we have a very large one in view that many choose to ignore, and that elephant has lots and lots of other elephants in it’s fold.
Question. If this trial goes through and it is determined by the Court that this agent was fired for refusing to “cook†the info about WMD, what does that do to Bush when it comes to impeachment?
In short, can this provide the “smoking gun†to start impeachment?
Hmmm, good question, seems like something that could easily blamed on a “lower down” rather than connected directly to Bush
WNB #16 – I occasionally troll with a Vibrax #4 spinner, which is made for river fishing, but works wonders on stupid fish. They see the bright shiny spinner and the little bell in the center pisses them off with it clanging.
The more sophisticated fish (steelhead, mature salmon) won’t bite it in the ocean.
RUC,
I knew some fish are smarter than others, so in terms of our Government officials, if steelhead and mature salmon are John Murtha, what type of sea animal would George Bush be? A mollusk?
“They are worried about his photograph being taken or his likeness being sketched,” Krieger told U.S. News, “because if his appearance became public, we are told we will lose one of our most valued assets because [the asset has] been publicly associated with him.”
what does this mean? that the agent who was fired is associated with a public figure?
-Support Liutenant Watada mistrial case, so we can give fellow american soldiers legitimate reasons to disobey illegal orders.
-Support Doe in his lawsuit against the criminal organizacion CIA
-Support good heartfelt music (Dixie Chicks)
-Support corageous political class (not too many of these.)
Question. If this trial goes through and it is determined by the Court that this agent was fired for refusing to “cook†the info about WMD, what does that do to Bush when it comes to impeachment?
In short, can this provide the “smoking gun†to start impeachment?
Comment by hacker bob — February 12, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
As the late President Ford said when he was in Congress, “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” means whatever a majority in the House decides it means.
So, the broad answer is, yes, it could. Is it likely to? I doubt it. You would have to find that Bush had a hand in the firing, then determine if it was so improper as to warrant removal from office.
What astounds me is Bush’s admitted violations of treaties has not been challenged by Congress. Remember when he announced that he was bringing 14 “terrorists” to Guantanamo in his run-up to have his Military Commissions Act passed? That admission of holding people in secret prisons was an admission of breaking the law, yet no one spoke out to hold Bush accountable.
So, here you have a United States President, admitting he committed an act in violation of Treaties, and still no impeachment proceedings.
Karma’s going to get real ugly for the United States.
I’ve given up on any of these people paying their dues. This guy won’t see a nickel and chances are his life will become a living hell if he proceeds with this. Why? Because as we see from the Scooter Libby trial, even though most of the evidence points towards Cheney and higher ups having something to do with Plame’s outing, nothing has been done – nor will it.
I think this is good news. Firing someone for purely political reasons simply because he didn’t produce the “right” answer — meaning, of course, the answer which the administration wanted regardless of whether it represented the facts or not — is unconscionable. If he wins the case, it potentially could be used as a nail in the coffin of the Bush administration since this would provide even more evidence for the argument that Bush was trying to alter the intelligence to fit a pre-existing policy instead of altering the policy to fit the intelligence.
Here is yet more allegation to accompany the CIA-outing scandal evidence and the way the adminstration manipulated the national intelligence. This will only add more fuel to the already damning and incriminating testimony against them all. I hope MORE agents step forward. Damn, 2007 is going to be a F* great year! Who would have thought, a mere six months ago?
This is as it should be. Justice has been served, BUT WE NEED MORE AND EVEN MORE DAMNING DISCLOSURES TO BRING DOWN Bushland Uber Allies, The Fourth Reich!!!!!
what type of sea animal would George Bush be? A mollusk?
Tunicate.
Tunicates have two openings in their body cavity: an incurrent and an excurrent siphon. The incurrent siphon is used to intake food and water and the excurrent siphon expels waste and water. The tunicate’s primary food source is plankton. Plankton gets entangled in the mucus secreted from the endostyle. The tunicate’s pharynx is covered by miniature hairs called ciliated cells which allow the consumed plankton to pass down through to the esophagus. Tunicates are also the only animals able to create cellulose.
Some larval forms appear very much like primitive chordates or hemichordates with a notochord (primitive spinal cord). Superficially the larva resemble small tadpoles. Some forms have a calcereous spicule that may be preserved as a fossil. They have appeared from the Jurassic to the present, with one proposed Neoproterozoic form, Yarnemia.
The larval stage ends when the tunicate finds a suitable rock to affix to and cements itself in place. Many physical changes occur to the tunicate’s body, one of the most interesting being the digestion of the cerebral ganglion previously used to control movement. From this comes the common saying that the sea squirt “eats its own brain”.[1]
#34: If he wins the case, it potentially could be used as a nail in the coffin of the Bush administration since this would provide even more evidence for the argument that Bush was trying to alter the intelligence to fit a pre-existing policy instead of altering the policy to fit the intelligence.
In addition to the lawsuit, Congress should be aggressively investigating any efforts by the Bush administration to fix the intelligence to fit their Iraq policy. That could include firing agents, silencing reports, burying reports, pimping previously discredited reports, relying on unreliable sources, and the like. This whole story needs to be fully understood, and the people responsible should be held accountable.
Surprise!
February 12th, 2007 at 1:13 pmOf course he was – anyone who’s not been the “right kind” of “team player” has been fired, from anywhere and everywhere in our Gov’t….
Cheney runs the US Gov’t exactly the same way Kruschev ran the Soviet Gov’t. : Who do you think Cheney learned politics from????
Enjoy life in the new, improved, USSA!!!
February 12th, 2007 at 1:16 pmUSSA!!!
GREAT song by the Butthole Surfers.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:19 pmCue up Rush and Hannity complaining about “activist” judges.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:20 pmBreak ‘em down…
…the TREASONOUS dogs…
We the people should also be emailing our congressional representatives and asking…
…what’s happening with the (demoted, and dismissed) “WHISTLEBLOWERS” like Bunnatine Greenhouse, Colleen Rowley, and Sybil Edmonds?
…they stuck their necks (and careers) out so that we the people could know the truth about:
No-bid contracts, FBI misconduct/mishandling of pre-911 intel, and TRAITORS in the CIA language translators dept…
…we owe these courageous women a HUGE debt of gratitude…
…email, call and write Senate Majority Leader Reid, House speaker Pelosi, and Steny Hoyer…
…ask THEM what is being done to reinstate (or otherwise recognize) the courage of these outstanding individuals…
February 12th, 2007 at 1:20 pmUSSA…..I think that ones a keeper.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:30 pmJust another part of the Republican war on Science, as fictionalized in “CSI: Redstate,” where the criminals always get away ’cause there are no dental records and their DNA is all the same.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:37 pm.
I have a few legitimate questions I would like an honest answer to from the posters here at Thin Progress.
Here goes.
Why dont you folks leave the government up to the professional government?
Why dont you folks leave the military up to the professional military?
What do you folks strive for?
What do you strive against?
What is the goal here?
Define the goal?
Define US politics today in detail.
Define US geo-politics & policies today in detail.
What is an enemy?
Who is the enemy?
Why are there enemies of the US?
Why are there allies of the US?
Who is an ally of the US?
Why are they an ally.
What is Christianity?
Why is there Christianity?
Who are these Christians?
What are Jews?
Why is there the Jewish faith?
Who are these Jews?
Why does mankind have a common bond?
Does mankind even have a common bond?
What is that bond?
The answers to all of these questions and many more are available in the best-selling book of ALL TIME!
The Bible.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:43 pmEnjoy life in the new, improved, USSA!!!
Comment by tom baker
I see the Commies at heart like KarlX and Juan C will be pleased with that moniker and theme.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:44 pmWow. I know the legal hurdles s/he had to overcome to get this far.
Amazing. Here’s hoping for a successful resolution.
May those who know of the crimes of this Administration continue to come forward with evidence and testimony of wrongdoing.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:48 pmPastor X= Rachel/Santo etc. Please ban him.
Right on Big Papa, I totally agree. We must not forget that some people have lost their livelihoods trying to prevent the debacle in Iraq, and they deserve to be recognized, and hopefully rewarded.
February 12th, 2007 at 1:51 pmComment by Briseadh na Faire
Question. If this trial goes through and it is determined by the Court that this agent was fired for refusing to “cook” the info about WMD, what does that do to Bush when it comes to impeachment?
In short, can this provide the “smoking gun” to start impeachment?
February 12th, 2007 at 1:57 pmTo the pastor x
I appreciate your belief in the bible, however, it is your right to do so, it is NOT your right to impose YOUR belief on others. A democracy assures us of that. Now, since it appears that we are losing democracy in this country, we that post here and other places, find a forum to express our thoughts and beliefs without being shouted down. I love this country and weep for it’s being dismantled as crudely as is being done, whether you believe that or not does not change the facts of reality.
Your bible also states thou shalt not kill…….but how many innocents have been killed by this administration? I think looking at the way we are being ‘governed’ and those doing the ‘governing’ need to be looked at and held accountable for their actions, not blaming others but by looking at self and one’s own motives. I don’t have all of the answers but I do know an elephant when I see one, and we have a very large one in view that many choose to ignore, and that elephant has lots and lots of other elephants in it’s fold.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:04 pmOne for the good guys! I do hope it’s the tip of the iceberg, which, when melted, will reveal many reasons for impeachment.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:07 pmFrom “wickedpedia”:
Don’t be foolish, and don’t play with the dangling, shiny fish hooks.
Ignore trolls and stay on topic!
February 12th, 2007 at 2:14 pm12 Bob
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Question. If this trial goes through and it is determined by the Court that this agent was fired for refusing to “cook†the info about WMD, what does that do to Bush when it comes to impeachment?
In short, can this provide the “smoking gun†to start impeachment?
Hmmm, good question, seems like something that could easily blamed on a “lower down” rather than connected directly to Bush
February 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWNB #16 – I occasionally troll with a Vibrax #4 spinner, which is made for river fishing, but works wonders on stupid fish. They see the bright shiny spinner and the little bell in the center pisses them off with it clanging.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmThe more sophisticated fish (steelhead, mature salmon) won’t bite it in the ocean.
RUC,
February 12th, 2007 at 2:46 pmI knew some fish are smarter than others, so in terms of our Government officials, if steelhead and mature salmon are John Murtha, what type of sea animal would George Bush be? A mollusk?
“They are worried about his photograph being taken or his likeness being sketched,” Krieger told U.S. News, “because if his appearance became public, we are told we will lose one of our most valued assets because [the asset has] been publicly associated with him.”
what does this mean? that the agent who was fired is associated with a public figure?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pm-Support Liutenant Watada mistrial case, so we can give fellow american soldiers legitimate reasons to disobey illegal orders.
-Support Doe in his lawsuit against the criminal organizacion CIA
-Support good heartfelt music (Dixie Chicks)
-Support corageous political class (not too many of these.)
DO NOT SUPPORT THIS CRIMINAL ADMINISTRATION.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmwhat type of sea animal would George Bush be?
Sea Cucumber
or perhaps one in a school of tuna?
February 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmIn short, can this provide the “smoking gun†to start impeachment?
Comment by hacker bob #12
hacker,
…the msm hasn’t said another word about this but…
…Friday during a press conference Repulsivescum California Rep. Dana Rohrbacher…
…a heretofore staunch Bushballicka…
…who has of late been absolutely LIVID that Bushiva has refused to pardon the two border patrol agents convicted of wounding a Mexican drug smuggler…
…ANGRILY declared in front of the cameras…
“if this situation isn’t resolved, there’s going to be talk of impeachment.”
…then stormed out of the room…
…hmmmm…
…mayhaps Bushiva meets his Waterloo?
February 12th, 2007 at 3:03 pmAND THE WHISTLEBLOWERS WILL CONTINUE TO CRAWL OUT OF THE WOODWORK LIKE TERMITES NOW THAT THE BUSH REGIME IS IRRELEVANT.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pm#23 “Sea Snake” or “Moray Eel” is more apropos.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:04 pm#
#23 “Sea Snake†or “Moray Eel†is more apropos.
Comment by veritas — February 12, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
i’d go with Moray Eel for Cheney, similar kind of toothless “i’m gonna cut your throat as soon as no ones looking” snear
February 12th, 2007 at 3:12 pmComment by big papa — February 12, 2007 @ 3:03 pm
Thanks for the info.
Time for more research!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmIn short, can this provide the “smoking gun†to start impeachment?
Comment by hacker bob — February 12, 2007 @ 1:57 pm
As the late President Ford said when he was in Congress, “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” means whatever a majority in the House decides it means.
So, the broad answer is, yes, it could. Is it likely to? I doubt it. You would have to find that Bush had a hand in the firing, then determine if it was so improper as to warrant removal from office.
What astounds me is Bush’s admitted violations of treaties has not been challenged by Congress. Remember when he announced that he was bringing 14 “terrorists” to Guantanamo in his run-up to have his Military Commissions Act passed? That admission of holding people in secret prisons was an admission of breaking the law, yet no one spoke out to hold Bush accountable.
So, here you have a United States President, admitting he committed an act in violation of Treaties, and still no impeachment proceedings.
Karma’s going to get real ugly for the United States.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmOhmygod! It’s the guy on the Quaker Oats box!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#30
hahahahahaha!
BNF, ahhh, that was funny
February 12th, 2007 at 3:23 pmSea Ly’n?
February 12th, 2007 at 3:26 pmGreat White Snark?
Jellyfish? (Man ‘O War)
I’d go with the latter; they’re full of slime & over-rated in name.
I’ve given up on any of these people paying their dues. This guy won’t see a nickel and chances are his life will become a living hell if he proceeds with this. Why? Because as we see from the Scooter Libby trial, even though most of the evidence points towards Cheney and higher ups having something to do with Plame’s outing, nothing has been done – nor will it.
We need to move on.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:39 pmI think this is good news. Firing someone for purely political reasons simply because he didn’t produce the “right” answer — meaning, of course, the answer which the administration wanted regardless of whether it represented the facts or not — is unconscionable. If he wins the case, it potentially could be used as a nail in the coffin of the Bush administration since this would provide even more evidence for the argument that Bush was trying to alter the intelligence to fit a pre-existing policy instead of altering the policy to fit the intelligence.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmHere is yet more allegation to accompany the CIA-outing scandal evidence and the way the adminstration manipulated the national intelligence. This will only add more fuel to the already damning and incriminating testimony against them all. I hope MORE agents step forward. Damn, 2007 is going to be a F* great year! Who would have thought, a mere six months ago?
February 12th, 2007 at 3:47 pmDubbie is a hagfish (look them up) – a scavenging bottomfeeder whose only defense mechanism is to produce copious quantities of slime.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:44 pmThis is as it should be. Justice has been served, BUT WE NEED MORE AND EVEN MORE DAMNING DISCLOSURES TO BRING DOWN Bushland Uber Allies, The Fourth Reich!!!!!
February 12th, 2007 at 8:24 pmwhat type of sea animal would George Bush be? A mollusk?
Tunicate.
Tunicates have two openings in their body cavity: an incurrent and an excurrent siphon. The incurrent siphon is used to intake food and water and the excurrent siphon expels waste and water. The tunicate’s primary food source is plankton. Plankton gets entangled in the mucus secreted from the endostyle. The tunicate’s pharynx is covered by miniature hairs called ciliated cells which allow the consumed plankton to pass down through to the esophagus. Tunicates are also the only animals able to create cellulose.
Some larval forms appear very much like primitive chordates or hemichordates with a notochord (primitive spinal cord). Superficially the larva resemble small tadpoles. Some forms have a calcereous spicule that may be preserved as a fossil. They have appeared from the Jurassic to the present, with one proposed Neoproterozoic form, Yarnemia.
The larval stage ends when the tunicate finds a suitable rock to affix to and cements itself in place. Many physical changes occur to the tunicate’s body, one of the most interesting being the digestion of the cerebral ganglion previously used to control movement. From this comes the common saying that the sea squirt “eats its own brain”.[1]
February 12th, 2007 at 8:51 pm#34: If he wins the case, it potentially could be used as a nail in the coffin of the Bush administration since this would provide even more evidence for the argument that Bush was trying to alter the intelligence to fit a pre-existing policy instead of altering the policy to fit the intelligence.
In addition to the lawsuit, Congress should be aggressively investigating any efforts by the Bush administration to fix the intelligence to fit their Iraq policy. That could include firing agents, silencing reports, burying reports, pimping previously discredited reports, relying on unreliable sources, and the like. This whole story needs to be fully understood, and the people responsible should be held accountable.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:18 pm