Gates raps Rumsfeld over ‘old Europe.’
Gates raps Rumsfeld over ‘old Europe.’
In January 2003, Donald Rumsfeld famously said of European opposition to the Iraq war, “You look at vast numbers of other countries in Europe, they’re not with France and Germany…they’re with the US. You’re thinking of Europe as Germany and France. I don’t. I think that’s old Europe.” At a conference in Europe yesterday, Defense Secretary Robert Gates rejected Rumsfeld’s characterization:
Mr. Gates cast himself as a geopolitical realist and drew a knowing laugh when he focused on Mr. Putin’s assertion that the United States and its allies were dividing Europe.
“All of these characterizations belong in the past,” Mr. Gates said. “The free world versus those behind the Iron Curtain. North versus South. East versus West, and I am told that some have even spoken in terms of ‘Old Europe’ versus ‘new.’”
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Ouch!
I’m sure the fundies won’t get it. They never understand intellectually witty sarcasm…
February 12th, 2007 at 8:47 pmThe world needs to come together, not be divided with arrogant rhetoric. I remember when Bush demonized the French because they wouldn’t allign themselves with our intent to invade Iraq. Most of America thinks the French owe us something for liberating them at the end of WW2. If the truth be known, the French are directly responsible for us winning the Revolutionary War. If they hadn’t helped us, we would have lost to the British. Ironic that the British were our allies during this little Middle Eastern conflict. What goes around…
February 12th, 2007 at 8:52 pmO.T. But,
February 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pmColumnist testifies Rove confirmed agent’s name
http://rss.cnn.com/~r/rss/cnn_topstories/~3/89811144/index.html
http://www.hotsheet.com/#news
o.k. back to the subject.
pardon me, but, wasn,t America once, OLD AMERICA?
gates needs to throw him out of the pentagon where he still has a desk (i guess a standing one) and staff.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:09 pmI guess Gates is letting Rummy know who’s top dog — in a very passive-aggressive manner. Weird.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:10 pmGates better be careful not to embolden the enemy.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:11 pm#4- It’s probably Rumsfeld’s idea. He thinks that maybe people won’t catch on to the fact that he (Rummy) still has control, even without the title.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:14 pmBush is an ass, Cheney’s an ass, Gates is an ass, Rumsfeld’s an ass, Rove is an ass, McCain’s an ass, Rice is an ass, Tony Snowjob is an ass. Their all asses with their heads in their asses. (Is that possible?). None of them can see that the rift is between the U.S. and the rest of the world now. And all the asses want to do the “assinine”- bomb Iran. But of course most Americans have parked their asses in front of the TV to take in the more important news of the passing of that great pillar of our society, Anna Nicole Smith. Is it any wonder…
February 12th, 2007 at 9:19 pmIt’s probably Rumsfeld’s idea. He thinks that maybe people won’t catch on to the fact that he (Rummy) still has control, even without the title.
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Nothing would surprise me.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:20 pmI snagged this from a fairly dead thread below:
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Comment by Amanda — February 12, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
February 12th, 2007 at 9:27 pmAs someone wrote to Cafferty: “The Old Bear is on the prowl.” I’ll bet Gates is worried. Russia controls a lot of Western Europe’s energy, I think. Plus, Putin is right.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:31 pm“North versus south” sure ain’t outdated.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:40 pmMy only hope left for America is this. If gays and lesbians get the right to have their own children, my only hope is that they should draw a God fearing CONSERVATIVE judge to hear their case. Conservatives are trying to BUILD UP this country while you Democrats are intent on tearing it apart from within.
This is a treasonous act.
2008 is going to be “The Year of the Conservative”
Mark it on your calendar. Bush stays. The war goes on. And the Congress will be in gridlock the whole time while war is being waged.
To the rest of you I bid blah blah blah.
Fear not, a conservative President is on the way in 2008.
America will stand strong and WILL NOT be broken.
That is all worms, that is all.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:48 pmJeez Rummy lived in the WWII mentality, that’s why the 30%ers loved him so.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:58 pmGates proves he is stupid, so no wonder the CIA was worthless when he was the Director. Now the Pentagon is going down the toilet with his non-leadership.
February 12th, 2007 at 11:57 pmAt least Europeans are NOT mass murderers like Americans and we can Talk openly and honestly
February 13th, 2007 at 5:17 amGates seems to be actually an improvement.
February 13th, 2007 at 8:33 am‘2008 is the year of the troll’- nice job, there, Cletus.
February 13th, 2007 at 9:23 amWise words from a Defence Secretary who admits that he is “not an expert on military matters”, or Iraq. Could this guy be less qualified?
February 13th, 2007 at 3:02 pmYO! I’m Robert Gates! I dance for the Fates!
February 13th, 2007 at 8:32 pmI wanna KICK Dumbsfailed in His Nates!
Donny’s a JIVE FOOL
Who plays with his TOOL
An’ out of his mouf’ COMES A TRAIL OF DROOL!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!
Any dam’ fool can clearly see
That Yoo-rope is where it always be!
No old or new
Or even something blue
Or even borrowed
From a money-lending Jew!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!
Donny you FOOL!
You pathetic OLD GHOUL!
You jus’ playing with your own stinky STOOL!
So GET A GRIP!
Befo’ You ship
Sink–An’ non of yo’ FAT LIP!!!!!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!
LET’S HAVE IT!