Pace: No Evidence Tying Iranian Government To Smuggled Explosives
Pace: No Evidence Tying Iranian Government To Smuggled Explosives
At Sunday’s briefing in Baghdad, U.S. officials attempted to tie the Iranian government to attacks on U.S. troops in Iraq, claiming that “Iran’s export of the bombs to Iraqi Shiite militias was a deliberate strategy of the regime.”
But today, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Peter Pace disavowed this claim. He told reporters he has no evidence of any links between the explosives killing Americans and top Iranian officials:
We know that the explosively formed projectiles are manufactured in Iran. What I would not say is that the Iranian government, per se [specifically], knows about this,” he said. “It is clear that Iranians are involved, and it’s clear that materials from Iran are involved, but I would not say by what I know that the Iranian government clearly knows or is complicit.
Pace isn’t the only one concerned about the intelligence presented at Sunday’s briefing:
Indeed, while the specific intelligence on the explosive formed projectiles is no longer disputed in the intelligence community, the CIA is questioning whether their export from Iran represents a strategy of the regime or the rogue actions of one of its security services, known as the Quds Force. [New York Sun, 2/12/07]
The officials offered no evidence to substantiate allegations that the “highest levels” of the Iranian government had sanctioned support for attacks against U.S. troops. [Washington Post, 2/12/07]
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If these “anonymous Pentagon officials” have proof that the Iranian gov’t is involved, they should tell us what it is; otherwise they’re just giving Ahmadinijad (sp) more ammo against us.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:10 pmNever let a little things like facts get in the way of a good war.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:10 pmGive them time and they’ll find Iran’s complete unscathed playbook for Iraq fluttering down from the sky after some IED goes off in Bagdad…. lookey here what we done found….
February 12th, 2007 at 4:11 pmInteresting, how Pace’s statement frames the question.
The question is no longer, ‘is there Iranian involvement in Iraq?’.
The question now is, ‘is the Iranian involvement in Iraq a strategy of the regime or the rogue actions of one of its security services?’.
Interesting choice…either the regime proper, or a rogue security service. There are many other alternatives that this narrowly framed question fails to address…and that’s by design.
The drums of war just keep on beating. Don’t get distracted just because they momentarily change their rhythm.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHow can anybody in their right mind justify attacking a country and killing and killing and killing and killing and killing and killing and killing and killing and killing WITHOUT FIRST TALKING
Bush is totally Out of order
February 12th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThe left wants it both ways on Iran. Kerry attacked Bush for not being “tough on Iran” for months. AND now that rumors swirl that Iran may be next to get attacked, the left (like TP writers) are bending over backwards to prove that Iran is not fueling the insurgency.
You have no cred. Your hatred for Bush overrides your desire for the truth. Case in point, where is that military draft the left was lying about before the 2004 election?
The left is so hate-filled, it’s scary. I pray for your demented, tortured souls.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:14 pmTripMaster Monkey,
Right you are and the incremental crawl to supposed justification begins.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:16 pmAdministration officials complaining about Iran interference in Iraq is like a child murdering theire parents and then complaining about being an orphan.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:17 pmNow look at that picture! There is a TRUE patriotic Christian American.
I would want my own to grow up to be just like him.
Strong. Independent. Unshaking. Disciplined. Loyal.
You know, all of the things that the Democratic Party DOES NOT represent.
I want my kids to grow up to and look up to people like him. ( Pace )
Give Em Hell Peter!!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pm#2
“Never let a little things like facts get in the way of a good war.”
Facts have a well-known liberal bias.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pmDamn, we finally get rid of that child-molesting preacher and now we’re saddled with the reading-comprehension-challAnged Liberals Heart Terrorists. I guess all the smart conservatives are hiding.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pm.
The first victim of war is the truth.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pmYou know, all of the things that the Democratic Party DOES NOT represent.
Is it time to remind dumbass how few Republicans served, and how many Democrats did? Or shall we leave him in cartoon-land?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:21 pm.
Iran is taking the opportunity to kick us while we’re down, just as we did them during the Iran Iraq war. It won’t end either by attacking Iran, as Russia while help the Iranians kick us while we’re down there as revenge for our assisting the Mujahadeen while Russia was in Afghanistan.
We’re in their back yard and the dumbass neocons got us there and have fueled this thirst for revenge for a long time.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:23 pmThe left is so hate-filled, it’s scary. I pray for your demented, tortured souls. — Liberals Heart Terrorists
So we are the ones that are hate filled, but you are just foaming at the mouth to attack another nation. I guess in your bizzarro view of the world, maybe.
if you had any credibility at all ( not saying you did ) you lost it with this totally demented statement. Go back to watching Faux Snewz, idiot.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe left wants it both ways on Iran. Kerry attacked Bush for not being “tough on Iran†for months. AND now that rumors swirl that Iran may be next to get attacked, the left (like TP writers) are bending over backwards to prove that Iran is not fueling the insurgency. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 12, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Project much?
You have no cred. Your hatred for Bush overrides your desire for the truth. Case in point, where is that military draft the left was lying about before the 2004 election? Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 12, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
The left has no cred? BWAHAHAHA, now that’s almost funny!
The left is so hate-filled, it’s scary. I pray for your demented, tortured souls. Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 12, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
Pray for your own demented tortured soul, you need it more. You’ll also need some good defense attorneys, especially after you lose the senate in a big way in two years!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pmIt is obvious why the talk is heating up … it is because Cheney wants to have Bush attack Iran before he gets asked to resign because of the Plame matter (which is finding out that everything in this government is being run by the vice president’s office instead of Bush’s office). Look Bush, you have had no control — you are just the cheerleader-in-fact. And once you realize that, you should ask Cheney to resign. Ha! Ha! How likely is that to happen? Pace is not talking war, his buddy Rummy is out of office and Pace wishes he were, too.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pmMy Kids Hero,
You get that from a picture?
Timothy Mcveigh also was quite a striking “patriotic Christian American” burr head too
God help the U.S. from such simpletons.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:27 pmLiberals Heart Terrorists
Your utter lack of brain cells is revealed by your chosen posting name.
My Kids Hero
And this nitwit looks at a photo and from it ascertains full knowledge of the individual in question. He reveals that he wants his children to have the assumed characteristics (Strong. Independent. Unshaking. Disciplined. Loyal) which is fine – I mean, who on earth doesn’t want their children to have such characteristics?
Oh, he let’s us know:
You know, all of the things that the Democratic Party DOES NOT represent.
Where in hell do all you assclown morons come from?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:28 pmPoor LHT (Post #6),
You have no cred.
Your blind love for anything Bush says overrides your desire for the truth.
Case in point, where are all those Weapons of Mass Destruction that they had proof existed in Iraq before the war?
Where’s all the yellow cake they were trying to buy?
Where is Usama bin Laden?
I think “You’ve been lying” to justify your blind hate for anything that isn’t pre-digested by the neo-cons.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI pray for your demented, tortured souls.
Comment by Liberals Heart Terrorists — February 12, 2007 @ 4:14 pm
To what? Your violent invisible sky daddy? Yeah, like that does anything… LOL
February 12th, 2007 at 4:31 pmThis statement on the Iranian-supplied weapons makes me believe that General Pace is an example of an honest, forthright government official relating FACTS not fiction. His recent response to one of the congressional committees regarding the current Iraq War debate which is going on in this country was also precise (and to paraphrase) when he said that the troops on the ground in Iraq will not feel that this country is not supporting them by having this debate — these debates happen in democracies! Well Done General!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#6 regardless of what you say we need to talk/negotiate/use diplomacy first. Unfortunately this adminsitration and their supporters view diplomacy as a weakness. This administration and their minions view negotiation as a process that begins with the other side in the negotiation starting with your desired goals and then working from there. Here’s some news for you…we were able to avoid war with Russia and China for 50 years by talking. Sometimes acrimoniously, but we talked. Here’s some more news negotiation is something that involves give and take hopefully with and end result pleasing to both sides. Negotiation is not a take it or leave it process. Those who advocate the administrations approach to Iran should note that it is eerily similar to their approach to Iraq and that it is decidedly un-American in it’s nature.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#9 – “I want my kids to grow up to and look up to people like him. ” Comment by My Kids Hero — February 12, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Well, all you have to do is make sure he doesn’t question anything the neo-cons ever tell him, don’t ask for proof when the neo-cons fabricate lies to justify going to war, never seek after the truth, and under any circumstances expect the Veterans Administration to be fully funded under the anti-troop actions by the neo-con Republicans.
Yup! You’ll raise a fine, upsatnding, neo-con hypnotised, bullet stopper in no time!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:33 pmYou get that from a picture?
Well, all it took was some well-posed pictures to fool idiots like My Kid’s Hero into thinking that Bush is a Texan, a Christian, and a man.
Image is cheap.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:33 pm.
Comment by IIIVIIIIVIIIVIIVIIIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIV — February 12, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Go to Iraq – the military would love your itchy trigger finger…
February 12th, 2007 at 4:34 pmMaybe someday Rachel will get a life.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:34 pmSo will Pace alter his rhetoric as the administration adds pressure, or will he stand strong against this tide of false intel that plagued the Defense Dept 4 years ago? I hope the latter, but I further hope the man doesnt get Shinsekied for voicing the truth.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:34 pmDamn dude, you don’t have to paste your dumb ass post 4 TIMES!!!!
On thread – Darth Cheney want’s to shoot Pace in the face now……
February 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pm(yawn)
February 12th, 2007 at 4:35 pmLooks like school let out.
Tell the lonely rachel/santo/multiple named troll I said hello
(yawn)
We got wallpapered by the retard again. They’ve really mastered cut and paste. Get a job.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:36 pmTP, if you ever had cause to enact a registration system for commenters, I’d say it’s now.
Please act quickly.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:36 pmIIIVIIIIVIIIVIIVIIIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIV wrote the same thing two days ago and again on another site, says google (assuming someone else didn’t write it for him).
That sure is a lot of words for a defeated loser and his failed ideology. Then again, I guess that’s all they’ve got left.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:37 pm.
What are Bush and Cheney going to do about Pace? Are they gonna blow HIS wife’s cover, too, and drive her out of the charity organization and country club?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:37 pmPatriotism speaks louder than a “I support the troops” magnetic sticker that was made in CHINA stuck to your car!
You ever notice the only time the Republicans show any support for the troops is when they’re trying to get re-elected?
Why don’t the Republicans fully fund the Veterans Administration?
Why don’t the Republicans fully armor our troops before they’re sent into war?
The Republicans have too many tax cuts to give out.
Or troops run third place next to rich people and big-corporation donations to Republicans.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:37 pmNice job preventing thread hijacking TP….did you guys hear any of our suggestions about how to make this site better?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:37 pmAnd how many weapons used against us we’re sold BY us to rogue regimes and 3rd party illegal arms dealers over the past 50 years?
Too many to count.
You reap what you sow. Or in this case, you create your own monster in order to scare your citizens in order to further your gangsta family’s crooked ways.
Bush and the Saudi’s. Until death do they part.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:38 pmOK, it’s a full on infestation. My reprint of “Who Served” doesn’t get posted, but IIIVIIIIVIIIVIIVIIIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIV can print his shit over and over again?
Hello? Admin?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:39 pm.
Looks like the meth has taken it’s toll on someone…
February 12th, 2007 at 4:39 pmWe got wallpapered by the retard again. They’ve really mastered cut and paste.
Actually, that’s what the rest of the Republican-owned media looks like, too. Just a bunch of idiots repeating what they’re told and shouting everyone else down.
You can protect an awful lot of failure, debt, and death if it’s walled off my mobs of screaming hicks like IIIVIIIIVIIIVIIVIIIIIIIIVIIIVIIIVIIIV.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:41 pm.
Yay, admin!
You made the stoopid go away!
Thanks, guys!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:45 pm.
If this keeps up, I am out of here, no use in having to scroll through the mad rantings just to have a debate.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:47 pmNothing says “Desperately Pathetic Troll” like cutting and pasting rightwing BS blather that nobody in their right mind reads to begin with
Really, “pathetic” is a proper word choice, seeing as how it took longer to cut & paste that drivel than it did to just scroll right by each repeat posting of said drivel
But hey, good job there lil’ trooper, I’m sure your neocon superiors are very proud of your efforts
Oh, that’s right, they don’t know you’re alive, or even care about you in the least, other than to laugh at your worthless ass every time you trot out your tired, old, non-factual blather
February 12th, 2007 at 4:48 pm“The left is so hate-filled, it’s scary.”
This from a poster called “Liberals Heart Terrorists.”
February 12th, 2007 at 4:51 pmMaybe someday Rachel will get a life.
Comment by ForTruth — February 12, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
And maybe someday I’ll sprout wings and fly… :D
February 12th, 2007 at 4:51 pmUnbelievable,
Where would you fly to?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThis from a poster called “Liberals Heart Terrorists.â€
Comment by Bluedog49 — February 12, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
They never fail to miss their own hypocrisy, do they?
The remaining 20%ers are really incapable of discussion or debate. They refuse to consider that they are wrong, made bad choices or are able to change their minds without being sent to some afterlife inferno…
February 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pmLiberalsHeartTerrorists: “I pray for your demented, tortured souls.”
May I suggest one of my favorites:
O Lord…
February 12th, 2007 at 4:57 pmooh, You are so big…
so absolutely huge.
Gosh, we’re all really impressed down here, I can tell You.
Forgive us, O Lord, for this, our dreadful toadying, and…and barefaced flattery.
But You’re so strong and, well, just so… super.
Amen.
Where would you fly to?
New Zealand seems quite nice, but Amsterdam is much closer, and they still owe me a wallet (and cash) which I lost there once!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:58 pmComment by Liberals Heart Bongs, prostitutes, and rock music
The hate argument is a “strawman” I believe. We hated GWB a lot less before he destroyed so much.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmWhere would you fly to?
Comment by ForTruth — February 12, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Ummm…. France. As much as the neocons hate the French, odds would be in my favor of not running into any of them there… :D
You?
February 12th, 2007 at 4:59 pmHow many times, and in how many ways, does Israel’s Mossad have to plant “evidence” or stage False Flag attacks in order for the planet to catch on to the facts that Mossad is behind damn near every act of “terror” for the purpose of fulfilling the Ledeen / Rockefeller Gloablist’s strategy – including the creation of “Eretz Israel.”
Consider Israel’s Mossad first – every single time.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:01 pmHmmm. Froomkin today reporting that one of the three “anonymous intelligence experts” flogging the Iranian connection was actually Maj. Gen. Bill Caldwell.
Nice try, guys!
February 12th, 2007 at 5:02 pm.
Unbelievable,
Hmmm…
I would fly to wherever there is good skiing at the time. I’ve never been to Europe, or New Zealand. Probably be making stops at all those places.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:03 pmooh, You are so big…
Comment by Bluedog49 — February 12, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
LOL!
February 12th, 2007 at 5:04 pmYour hatred for Bush overrides your desire for the truth.
Replace hatred with Love, and you have a Repug.
Case in point, where is that military draft the left was lying about before the 2004 election?
Considering they were in not much of a position to direct legislation in the Republican controlled legislative branch, resolutions s.89 and h.r.163, which were introduced more to highlight the strain that Bush’s irresponsible war policy has placed on our military, had little chance of passing.
Get a clue dink.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:07 pmI’ve never been to Europe, or New Zealand.
Comment by ForTruth — February 12, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
If you go to Europe, you’ll probably never come back. It’s really liberal.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:11 pmWhy does General Pace hate America and want the terrorists to win? Surely by now he knows that hating the Arabs in Iran helps to support our troops. By interjecting facts and truth and such nonsense into the political arena, he is only emboldening the terrorists.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:11 pmBluedog….
February 12th, 2007 at 5:13 pmdo you know the lyrics to the doxology they sing in that same movie?
….something about boiling us in a vat…..
My first stop would be Amsterdam, not for any real reason…
February 12th, 2007 at 5:15 pmThis one person told me they spent a lot of time stepping in dog poop while in France. That’s pretty liberal.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:17 pm…..it must be really dry there in AZ……:)
February 12th, 2007 at 5:18 pm[...] general pace isn’t getting with the program. clearly he needs to fired. [...]
February 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmHere you go, Raven:
Oh, Lord, please don’t burn us,
Don’t grill or toast your flock.
Don’t put us on the barbecue,
Or simmer us in stock.
Don’t braise or bake or boil us,
Or stir-fry us in a wok.
Oh please don’t lightly poach us,
February 12th, 2007 at 5:19 pmOr baste us with hot fat,
Don’t fricassee or roast us,
Or boil us in a vat,
And please don’t stick thy servants Lord,
In a Rotissomat…
But has the bush admin issued a clarification of what Pace meant to say yet?
February 12th, 2007 at 5:20 pm…..it must be really dry there in AZ……:)
Comment by Raven
Not completely dried up, we still find what we need.
The ski area did close breifly, they should re-open by the weekend.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:21 pmMy first stop would be Amsterdam, not for any real reason…
Comment by ForTruth — February 12, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
You’d just go to look for UB’s wallet right ForTruth?
February 12th, 2007 at 5:22 pmFurthest I’ve been in this lifetime has been Cancun, Mexico. Not dry there.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:23 pmAll of this Libby testimony is EVIDENCE OF ORCHESTRATION to leak Plame’s identity via multiple sources simultaneously such that no single source could be blamed for outing a CIA agent…all by design.
Rove was the maistro of this concert – but Cheney was the underwriter – on Rockefeller’s behalf.
The cover story was created by Rove at inception…
“Everybody knew.”
February 12th, 2007 at 5:24 pmoh no, what will George Ibn Saud Bush do about this??
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February 12th, 2007 at 5:27 pmYou’d just go to look for UB’s wallet right ForTruth?
Comment by Quadrajet
Exactly, so I can get her picture, and do a good deed of returning the wallet. Yes, thats it.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:27 pmThank you, bluedog, very much!
February 12th, 2007 at 5:29 pm(I lost my VHS copy of “the meaning of life” to an irate Irish catholic at a party…………:)
I made it as far out as Prince Rupert, British Columbia one summer… to the best of my recollection……..
February 12th, 2007 at 5:31 pmRaven, I posted the lyrics and they were removed. Evidently, it’s ok with TP to allow trolls to come here and call us names, but we can’t quote a Monty Python song.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:32 pmto the best of my recollection……..
Comment by Raven
Musta been one of those impromtu “road trips”?
February 12th, 2007 at 5:33 pmsounds like Pace is going to have a different job pretty soon
February 12th, 2007 at 5:40 pmBluedog……Yeah, to bad, Daryll showed up on the next thread, and I was getting ready to sing the song for him… oh well………
February 12th, 2007 at 5:43 pmFor truth….. impromptu of the highest order of excellence.
Left the truck in Seattle, hitchhiked up thru the interior, out to the coast at Prince Rupert.
From there took the ferry out to the Queen Charlotte Islands, narrowly escaped being adopted by the Haida’s………..
Comment by Bluedog49 — February 12, 2007 @ 5:32 pm
Bluedog, I guess you have to be a mossad agent/battlefied organ transplant surgeon to post anything you want…..or maybe an NSA super agent with access to all of our hard drives.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:43 pmA Nuanced position from the Joint Chiefs??? Why?? Pace is drawing a distinction between the Govt. of Iran, and some unspecified Iranians. Did Bush just Blink???
February 12th, 2007 at 5:45 pmI find it extremely odd that there is a briefing in Baghad by “anonymous senior military officials.” Are these military commanders…or Pentagon officials? Secondly…REPORTERS are briefed before the relevant Intelligence Committees in the Congress? This administration is selling THIS next attack/war with Iran harder than they even did with Iraq.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:46 pmNice impromtu trip Raven.
February 12th, 2007 at 5:46 pmBest thing I have ever read about Pace. Is he the first one to grow a spine and a pair of…
February 12th, 2007 at 5:50 pm[...] Read more Pace [...]
February 12th, 2007 at 5:51 pmExactly, so I can get her picture, and do a good deed of returning the wallet. Yes, thats it.
Comment by ForTruth — February 12, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
The wallet belongs to wake-n-bake…
That would be something if there was a photo of me in there!
Amsterdam is awesome (aside from the legalized drugs and prostitution, actually). Probably the most liberal city I’ve ever visited. It’s a perfect example why it’s way cooler to be liberal… People are educated, accepting of others, open-minded and diverse. And, as a perk to you – they have legalized drugs and prostitutes… ;D
February 12th, 2007 at 6:01 pmor maybe an NSA super agent with access to all of our hard drives.
Comment by Quadrajet — February 12, 2007 @ 5:43 pm
LOL! Good one!
February 12th, 2007 at 6:05 pmSo Pace is contradicting the “secret” administration “officials” who conducted a cute little show and tell with the press yesterday.
February 12th, 2007 at 6:19 pmWho’s got more cred, the Bushytes or the General.
My buck is on the general.
His swift boat is docking as we speak.
Where’s all the yellow cake they were trying to buy?
Comment by Democrat Soldier
Next to the chocolate and white cakes mixes and across the aisle from the frostings and such.
February 12th, 2007 at 6:20 pmOK, so my Monty Python lyrics were deleted, but this nonsense above is fine. Wow. I just don’t get the people running TP.
February 12th, 2007 at 6:33 pmWhy do the trolls charge the left as being hate-filled, when they are the ones who not only want to keep up the slaughter in Iraq, but they want to start another war in Iran?
Why are the trolls opposed to critical thinking on Iran?
Why do the trolls follow the leader blindly, even after having been made fools of in the past?
Why do the trolls hate America?
February 12th, 2007 at 6:46 pmEvidently, it’s ok with TP to allow trolls to come here and call us names, but we can’t quote a Monty Python song.
Comment by Bluedog49
Perhaps your posts will stay if you just add some links to child pornography .
February 12th, 2007 at 6:49 pmPerhaps your posts will stay if you just add some links to child pornography .
Comment by Juan C — February 12, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
You’re too funny…
Oh, and don’t forget the text that forms a mouse with an erection… That one is like glue…
February 12th, 2007 at 7:03 pmMarie, as members of the Cult of Bush, they serve a “higher authority” than the constitution. They serve their cult leader.
February 12th, 2007 at 7:09 pmCommentors –
Thank you to those of you who write to us to let us know that there are commentors that need to be banned for abusing the rules.
E-mailing us once will take care of the problem. If we don’t get to it immediately, it means we are not at our computers — not that we are ignoring you. (E-mailing us 10 times won’t be any more effective…)
Please also note that commenting on every troll, offensive comment does not improve the quality of the thread. Please trust that if you let us know about the offenders — and don’t continue to engage them in the comment thread — we will work to solve the problem.
Thanks for your patience!
February 12th, 2007 at 7:18 pmOops!
February 12th, 2007 at 10:17 pmWhere’s that script again?
Thank you Amanda! It can’t be easy to keep up with prolific jerks like Rachel!
February 12th, 2007 at 11:03 pm[...] Washington Post follows up on Gen. Peter Pace’s claim that he has seen no proof of high-level Iranian involvement in weapons smuggling into Iraq: Pressed repeatedly, Snow answered, “Look, the Department of [...]
February 12th, 2007 at 11:38 pmWar with Iran huh? Who we gonna get to fight this MF. I know, let’s get a good Christian patriotic Republican. Who dat ya say? Well none other than right wing has been guitarist Ted Nugent who admitted in an interview with the Detroit Free Press (July 15, 1990) to urinating and defecating in his pants to avoid serving his country during the Vietnam war. Like the army needs Humvees Nugent is gonna need an extra supply of jockeys.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:12 amNow just what in the hell does either of these have to do with the subject matter at hand? I fully realize neither does my comment, but I am not quite sure I will stay. Where are the editors?? Get a grip home plate.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Perhaps your posts will stay if you just add some links to child pornography .
Comment by Juan C — February 12, 2007 @ 6:49 pm
You’re too funny…
Oh, and don’t forget the text that forms a mouse with an erection… That one is like glue…
Comment by unbelievable — February 12, 2007 @ 7:03 pm
I will monitor your edits to see if I want to join the conversations.
ST
February 13th, 2007 at 3:47 amre: Message # 58- by ‘Chris’- Hey Cletus- Iran is populated by PERSHIANS, not “Arabs”.
February 13th, 2007 at 9:34 amYeah, like Reagan knew nothing about the Iran/Contra deal, the Iranian government mayu be in the dark about this.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:38 amGeneral Pace, You have my support and you have established credibility with me. regards, Markel
February 13th, 2007 at 12:07 pmAre you all so ignorant. Blindly accepting anything that anyone says.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:02 pmThe quote from Pace was not TODAY as stated. It is a quote from March 14 2006. When thgey quoted the Sun and Washington Post it is date today but it’s funny how this got left out for Paces quote.
Carter could have stopped this years ago. Its about time that we take a stand.
I can’t believe (or I guess I can) how people don’t do their homework when they get on these things.
Armitage was the leak! (Plame)
For all of you who want to talk with Iran sure lets do it just like we did with Saddam who defied 17 resolutions. Here’s a good book to read “The Evil Craddeling” if you want to know about terrorists, they don’t think, they just hate.
Have any of you ever heard of ferel children? Well I put them (terrorist’s) on a scale a little bit higher than that, only because they can talk.
When you take someone at a very early age and the only thing they are taught is to hate and to kill and to lie there isn’t hope for them to be able to negotiate in a resonable manner. Firstly they don’t know what negotiate or reasonable means. Secondly they don’t care.
Awww the poor terrorists, they just want to be left alone. Yeh, right. They have a plan and have been putting it into place here for years. Thank you Lyndon Johnson I believe you helped to give them the idea when you opened the flood gates.All immigrants welcome to come and establish your own little mini country here.
, then let them come and buy a business and be tax exempt for 7 years (as a naturalized citizen I am not allowed) then let them pass it on to the next relative etc etc. See how it goes. Foot well in the door in every city in the country and sending money back home to promote their cause. I’m not saying every immigrant but a whole lot of them. Tell me I can’t have MY say about being there. Saddam had billions of American dollars, cash money. Iran is doing everything they can t undermine our cause to prove what cowards we are.Turn tail and run you infidels, let the world see the dog you are! With everyone backing out on what they said when we went to war with Iraq how could we take a stand against Iran?That is what he is thinking and so many of you are proving him right. Ummmmmmmmmm
Let’s see, how many of you are learning to speak arabic?
My father was first generation here (arabic). He and his 3 brothers all served in seperate branches of this great nations military during WW11. Their father had a patch in the window of his home representing them all and flew the flag with pride. There were also 7 girls.My grandfather said we are American’s we speak english.None of my siblings or cousins learned to speak arabic.
I am not a war monger, I hate war. I disiplined my children and I didn’t like doing that either but I knew in order for them to grow up and to be a contributing factor in society I had to do it. There is a time for war and after ignoring the U.N. 17 times, with or w/o WMD’s it was time to go. A child needs to know there are consequences. Iran(the child) is taking full advantage of the situation because of the Americans who are afraid to defend her.
You people who are so full of hate and spewing it wouldn’t have the platform to do it on. Go visit Iaq or Argentina. Go to China, Cambodia or India. Go to Europe even,because this is still the best country in the world. I have been to some of these places and other’s I haven’t listed so I do know who has the best way of life. Bring the rest of the world here or just forget that, go to a shelter and start taking people into your homes to live. Same idea, smaller scale.How good would your way of life be then? Matters doens’t it when it’s in your own home, why not your country?
Other nations say horrible things about us because they are envious, it’s always like that for the people at the top. It’s the equivalent of wanting to be like the Jonses. People jealous of those who have more than them, wanting to take what others have and have it redistributed, but then one day you strike it rich and whoa….you think “who are you to tell me what to do with what is mine” This hypocisy makes me ill.
The terrorists of the mid east would love to rule the world. What don’t you get??
God Bless America
February 13th, 2007 at 2:16 pm[...] I would not say by what I know that the Iranian government clearly knows or is complicit.” [Think Progress has the highlights.] — Then, also yesterday: CNN reports that some of those ‘Iranian [...]
February 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pmHas everybody forgotten that it was Saudi Arabians who attacked New York City on September 11th, 2001? And has everyone missed the item about the five Israeli moving van workers who werre stopped after witnesses saw them celebrating the burning twin towers on that day? They were held for more than a month an released only under intense pressure from Israel. Apparently they had been surveilling the hi-jackers and the question arises, why didn’t they alert American authorities to the activities of the SAUDI ARABIANS they were shadowing?
Iran is a RED HERRING, a means by which we can have eternal profit-making warfare for the very rich.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:14 pmLets impeach this bozo before he lies us into a war with Iran.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#103 browneyes
…? You actually refer to Iran as a child?!
The Iranians have been around for a very long time, and it was Great King Darius I , the Persian/Iranian king, who rebuilt the Jewish Temple and was supporting the reconstruction of the Jewish State. That was in about 500 B.C. some two-thousand-two-hundred years before Uncle Sam was born.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:18 pmbrown eyes,
i can’t believe i read your whole post. I sure hope your children are smarter than you.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:25 pm#103 browneyes
BROWNEYES I CAN’T BELIEVE WHAT I AM READING!
Browneyes, you say other nations are envious of us which explains why they verbally attack us?!? That people always feel that way about others who they are jealous of, “it’s always like that for the people at the top”
Unless I am mistaken the United States has consistently ranked near or below the top ten in both public and private national rankings of economic and quality of life standards for YEARS now!
February 13th, 2007 at 3:35 pmFor your information Norway is currently ranked the world’s best place to live and has consistently been so for some six years in a row. In 2002 the U.S. ranked sixth on the UN list. Grant Thornton ranks the optimism rating of the United States VERY LOW as compared to their leaders, India and China!
It just might be possible that people are attacking the United States because we are behaving like Nazi Germany? Perhaps their attacks are justified?
[...] to contradict this claim, saying that he has not seen evidence that the Iranian government “clearly knows or is complicit” in the weapons [...]
February 13th, 2007 at 3:36 pmLook at Iran on a map. Iraq to the west. Afghanistan to the east. If the US had Iranian troops fighting wars in Canada and Mexico, there would be lots of arms smuggling across our borders, regardless of the official position of the US government. What is surprising is how little is occuring.
February 13th, 2007 at 5:29 pm[...] Pace: No Evidence Tying Iranian Government To Smuggled Explosives [...]
February 13th, 2007 at 6:55 pm[...] to contradict this claim, saying that he has not seen evidence that the Iranian government “clearly knows or is complicit” in the weapons [...]
February 13th, 2007 at 9:10 pm[...] with Gen. Peter Pace, who said he has not seen evidence that the Iranian government “clearly knows or is complicit” in the weapons smuggling. Henry confronted Bush about this contradiction and forced him to [...]
February 14th, 2007 at 1:11 pm[...] 12, 2007: General Pace, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, is reported to refute that claim. Covered here and here as [...]
February 15th, 2007 at 2:47 pm[...] to contradict this claim, saying that he has not seen evidence that the Iranian government “clearly knows or is complicit” in the weapons [...]
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