CNN: Bush-Backed Shiite Group Receiving Weapons Shipments From Iran
CNN: Bush-Backed Shiite Group Receiving Weapons Shipments From Iran
U.S. intelligence and military officials have stated that Iranian weapons shipments “are going to Shiite militias that include rogue elements of Moqtada al-Sadr’s Mehdi army militia.” But U.S. officials have not been as vocal about possible Iranian support for a separate Shiite militia, the Supreme Council of Islamic Revolution In Iraq (SCIRI). The Mehdi Army and SCIRI are rivals, and both have armed wings.
Yesterday, Kevin Drum speculated that Iran might be providing the SCIRI militia with weaponry. Drum wrote, “In other words, if we had to guess where the bombs were going, we might guess that SCIRI’s militia is getting a share of the action too.” There’s no need to guess any longer. CNN’s Michael Ware has confirmed that Iranians have been supplying weapons to SCIRI. Watch it:
In Dec. 2006, Bush met with the head of SCIRI — Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim — for the second time and applauded his “commitment to a unity government” and his “strong position against the murder of innocent life.”
Transcript:
WARE: But the newest thing, the most interesting thing, out of this briefing is an American senior defense official said that the Iraqi government confirmed that Iranian armed forces gave weapons to an Iraqi political faction. And these included mortars and sniper rifles, weapons that the government said, well, this political faction needs for protection. But the U.S. said these are not protective weapons; these are weapons for attacking — Wolf.
BLITZER: Were they specific which faction received these Iranian weapons? Were they the Mehdi army, for example, loyal to the anti-American radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, who, as you know, his political forces are aligned with the government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki?
WARE: That’s right. Muqtada’s forces are aligned with Maliki’s government. In fact, Muqtada and his militia put Maliki in power. And these defense officials today spoke openly about the provision of weapons to Muqtada’s Mehdi militia.
However, in this particular case, what they are talking about is this confirmation, by the government of Iraq, of the supply of weapons not to Muqtada’s faction, but to, arguably, the most powerful political faction within this government. That is the SCIRI political party.
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I wonder, why does'nt Russia fear iranian nuclear capability...theyre only 2000 miles away...
Answer.Bush is an idiot.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:24 pmThe main destablizing factor in Iraq is the presence of U.S. troops.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmI'd like to know why all of this stuff was kept out of the NIE?
Remember that little document, prepared by all of our Intelligence Agencies? It minor Iranian involvement in Iraq.
Suddenly we are given new "evidence" daily about how "Iran" is supplying weapons to the insurgents in Iraq.
Is Las Vegas making odds on which day bombs begin to fall on Iran yet?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:25 pmBush? Being played like a cheap drum? Whhoooooddda thunkit?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:28 pmBLOOD Brothers
Why aren't Rape-Public-Cans also repulsed by our funding, arming, and protecting the people who kill us???!!!!!!!
February 12th, 2007 at 2:29 pmWhy isn't MSm acknowledging the obvious?
The "proof" of Iranian munnitions are in English not Farsi!
Staged? Propaganda? Duh!
February 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmBnF, yes, Vegas is in on "the action".
http://www.unconfirmedsources.com/?itemid=2160
If you play with the snake's tail long enough, you're going to get bitten.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:31 pmIs Las Vegas making odds on which day bombs begin to fall on Iran yet?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
April - 4:1
February 12th, 2007 at 2:33 pmMay - 3:1
June - 1:1
July - 2:1
August - 6:1
Doh!
February 12th, 2007 at 2:34 pmWhen will the fool wake up and understand that the Chump-in-Charge has started a war. A war, by definition, has two or more sides who shoot at each other and kill each other. If the CiC attempts to justify attacking Iran because Iran gave weapons to the other side then Iran is justified in attacking Bushco for the same reason. It is not a grown-up Intendo or Wii; it is a real WAR. There are three solutions: win, lose, or quit. Bush chose the second one when he started the war; a war he could not, can not, nor will not win. It can't be won because the US is not willing to kill enough of the people to end the war. If so then the immediate withdrawal of all American Troops and a scorched earth policy for the whole world except the US is the only answer. As Bush steps up his force the opposing side will escalate as well and it will keep up until somebody drops the big one and everybody loses. It is time to quit.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:35 pmWhat, no odds on February or March?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:36 pmSo WHAT!
...if China invaded Mexico or Canada...
...we'd be supplying arms to...
...BOTH SIDES...
February 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmAs recently as Jan 2005 Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company.
It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.
If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.

Thousands of pages of documents obtained by various federal agencies show how Halliburton’s business dealings in Iran helped fund terrorist activities there—including the country’s nuclear enrichment program.
Where the HELL is the media?? There should be ten thousand reporters banging on the doors of Cheney's secret bunker demanding answers!!! But all you hear about is a few guns that may be coming from Iran into Iraq. They've got to be kidding right? Our Military Industrial Complex has sold weapons to every horrible dictator on the face of the planet!
February 12th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWould a rightwinger, please explain the following to me (Use small words, this is a concept I just do not understand)
You are in two wars.
Your deficit is so big, that there is serious talk about cutting services - and you can't even afford social healthcare.
Your national debt has doubled.
Your allies have started recalling the story of the boy who cried wolf.
Your enemies are getting more agressive and somewhat bolder.
The oil price is only just starting to recover from the last war.
Your army is already complaining of a lack of recruits.
And starting another one in the same region is supposed to be a good idea how exactly?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:40 pmIs anyone really surprised by this?
The chimp projected his plans way back in his "axis of evil" speech, which was basically written from the PNAC manifesto.
His only regret will be that he won't likely have enough time to open a 4th war front in Korea.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:42 pm.
so, in order to insure that the information is correct that iran is supplying arms to iraqis you sanction that supply of arms...
ok... i guess it's always been such, huh...
February 12th, 2007 at 2:44 pm.
don't forget the sunnis are getting support from our pals in saudi arabia
February 12th, 2007 at 2:45 pmDang! that Dubbie sure is gettin some emboldenin done, ain't he!?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:49 pmYou could just see the punchline to this joke:
Iran: So you are saying that you don't want us to supply your allies with weapons then?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:50 pmAhhh, good old perpetual war. Where are the trolls? What do you have to say about good ol boy now, assclowns? Front page of my hometown newpaper today: Iran supplying weapons to Iraq. Yeah don't bother to confirm that or anything. Any one else feel likes it 2002 all over again?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:52 pm#14
cia=weapons, money, and drug laundering business
February 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmThe bottom photo is the Bush equivalent of Rumpsfelt shaking the hand of Saddam Hussein.........
February 12th, 2007 at 2:55 pmCan we get a side by side, both photos together?
Just for the history books.......
Here's where this latest bucketload of Bush propaganda falls apart. It's been reported hundreds of times that the Sunni insurgents (Dead Enders), with help from al Queda, are responsible for the roadside IEDs that have been killing our troops.
February 12th, 2007 at 2:58 pmBut now the Bushies are trying to claim that the Shiites are the ones planting the roadside IEDs with recent Iranian munitions.
The only problem with that is there has never before been any mention of Shiites planting roadside IEDs.
So...... sounds like everyone's got enough weapons to go around... can we leave now?
February 12th, 2007 at 2:59 pmi would like to say i blame the american people for our present situation, we the people are the majority. it is our resposability to do something. the libby situation and the proving of lies to go to iraq should have been enough, but the shit keeps on and on. now we are on the verge of a cuop de tat in our own govt wich will make the constitution "just a goddamn piece of paper". the power barons in this country are about to take control so be prepared to become "enslaved" if you are not already by credit and taxes.
remeber these words -- "What we must remember, however, is that preservation of liberties does not depend on motives.
A suppression of liberty has the same effect whether the suppressor be a reformer or an outlaw.
The only protection against misguided zeal is constant alertness to infractions of the guarantees of
liberty contained in our Constitution. Each surrender of liberty to the demands of the moment makes easier another,
larger surrender. . ."
-Justice William O. Douglas
February 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmmainstream media is worthless, nothing but stupid desk jockeys serving special interests and thier wallets
Long live the internet!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:00 pmAn enemy a day keeps "democracy" away!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmApparently, a key element which is being overlooked by the media is the sale of centrifuges to Iran by Haliburton - let's get with it guys! I believe any serious investigation needs to begin with Haliburton....and then determine why the weaponry is written in English and nor Farsi....wow! Such never-ending hypocrisy. I guess that's what it comes to when the house of lies and corruption begins to come tumbling down.....nothing was built on truth since Bushco took office so the seismic jolt has come and it's painting a very disgusting picture of this administration.
Off topic: I predict that Dickie-Doo will urinate in his pants (or his depends as the case more accurately is) when called to the stand; either that or his ticker will give out.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:01 pmAside from the BS one thing is certain. American made cluster bombs are found coveing much of Lebannon and Iraq. Though I don't buy the lies about Iran, the fact is they have a much greater legitimate interest in Iraq than we do based on geography and history. It is we and not they that represent the greatest danger and it is we, not thay who have and threaten to use nuclear weapons.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmugh. this is what is just so stupid about US criticims of Iran supporting al-Sadr. its as though all of sudden there was a huge controversy over the sky being blue, or the sun setting. and of course there is the utter hypocrisy of complaining of Iranian meddling in Iraq's affairs (yea, we'd never do that)
The two biggest parties in the UIA, the Shi'ite block that controls the Iraqi government, are both former Iran-based resistance movements--Dawa and the SCIRI. SCIRI in particular has close links to Iran--its organization is modeled on the revolutionary government of Iran, and its militia, the Badr Corps, was armed and trained by Iran's revolutionary guards. Given the prominence of these two groups in the Iraqi government, whenever the US provides arms and training to Iraqi security forces, it is bound to leak out to their militia affiliates. and we've known this for years!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmThe Bushitco bullcrap is not making logical sense and the people know it. THIS TIME the people will rebel and stop this sociopath in his tracks.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:02 pmIt's all good. I mean bad, bad, bad. Iran is sooo bad. They provide weapons with instructions printed on in English. Now that's really bad, isn't it? That will make Bible Belt John D. and his wifes angry. "Look honey, George found out that those Iranian bastards sell missiles to Iraq!" "Johnny hon', You want some more Kool-Aid?"
February 12th, 2007 at 3:07 pmI am scared now! Somebody gave those Iraqi, huh, I mean those In-Surgents something to shoot at US! Wait a minute!
Wait a minute! We are the ones surging! How dare those evil- do-er's stand up against us evil-be-er's? If, and I say it again, IF You want to give those people a name, call them Out-Surgents, from Outsurgency. Because Insurgency goes inward, but those missiles and IED blow outward.
It's deja vu all over again.
This is the Bush administration doing what they do best: Blaming someone else for their own blunders.
Not only does the rhetoric about Iran echoes what the Bush administration said about Iraq, they're using the same flimsy "intelligence" they used almost four years ago. Even the PowerPoint presentation on Iran's involvement in Iraq is eerily reminiscent of Powell's infamous "mobile chemical labs" presentation to the United Nations.
Also four years ago, the White House told us Iraqis were so crafty they had WMD to threaten the civilised world, and were well on their way to making nuclear weapons. Now they tell us those same Iraqis have to import explosive devices from Iran.
After the invasion, it was widely reported that the US military failed to secure the very sites where several tons of explosives were stored. But the White House now wants us to forget that fact, and tells us the Iraqi insurgency has to import explosives from Iran.
They've been telling us all along the bulk of the insurgency is made up of the Sunni population; the same ones who are killing Shi'as -the natural allies of Iran. But now they want us to believe Iran is sending arms to the enemies of their own allies.
Last but not least, the White House is sidestepping the obvious: 1) Even conceding there is Iranian help to Iraqi insurgents, stopping it will not stop the violence and bloodshed and 2) The reason why Americans are dying in Iraq is because Pres Bush decided to occupy that country.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIs this another case of "the boy who cried wolf"?
I don't know, of this I am certain. But, I also do not think that we should trust our intelligence community. I am certain that we cannot trust any member of the Bush administration.
As said many times before, Bush has screwed up everything so that now we cannot even trust intelligence officials.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pmIran is backing the same group we are? So does that mean we're supporting terrorists, or that Iran is our ally in the war on Terrorism? This is a complicated 'fact' for the world of the simpleton republicans.
Must ignore, must ignore, must ignore - the phrase all of the right wingnuts are repeating to themselves!!!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:11 pm5 - Your Conscience -
'Rape-Public-Cans' - good one...
'Why aren’t Rape-Public-Cans also repulsed by our funding, arming, and protecting the people who kill us???!!!!!!!'
maybe many are cashing in on this and perhaps this so called war is a distraction to what is really going on in our country. Kill the beast so we can end our social programs. And isn't it just grand how the mainstream rape-public-can corporate media is helping this along? We are in sorry, sorry times.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:13 pmAnd if we go after Iran...Russia will go after us. Bush will do it - he and the rest of the thugs desperately need this to distract the public of the truths now starting to filter to the public.
The CNN report:
February 12th, 2007 at 3:22 pmWas it one Shia faction siccing the Americans on another Shia faction in the CNN report? Or maybe a Sunni was the source. Why is the "Iraqi government official" unnamed? Maybe its our old friend Chalabi!
In short why should an unnamed Iraqi source be any more believable than an anonymous American? Because a slightly breathless Michael Ware parrots the information and not some FoxFool?
Why must we go on being fed these stories from unnamed sources whatever the source? Enough of this bull crap... please stop enabling them!
#37 great one
To all those guys that get a premature ejaculation when they see or touch a missile:
February 12th, 2007 at 3:28 pmWe will lube up some of those missiles for You and then sit you on top of it. For the moment it feels painful (yes I know that you will love that) you are reminded of all those innocent people that have died through your militarism, especially the children that never had anything to do with your sick war business. So let's start with everybody in this administration, followed by everybody in the Rape-Public-Con (Love that) Paaty and of course we save the big ones, the missiles that slant slowly to the width of a Volkswagen for everybody in the Military-Industrial-Complex. For those guys we reduce the lube as well.
Only a world without military has a chance to survive. And don't tell me that Christian crap about "Tell that our enemies..." No military - No enemy. It's that simple. Which reminds me to keep a few lubricated missiles for the Christian Right...
Where did the weapons that the Pentagon illegally sold a few weeks ago end up? That would be an interesting lead to follow and uncover. I hear Bush whinning about the Iranians involvement, but our own is conveniently brushed aside as though we have a righteous, God-given presense in that foreign land. Methinks the pot doth call the kettle black.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:28 pmDamn, I just keep getting this vision of Dick Cheney riding the Bomb down ala Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove!!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:38 pmUncle Sam needs a pretty good spanking and be reminded what it means to be a beacon of hope, justice and freedom. Like the Statue of Liberty showing the way into the land of endless possibilities, not limitations, peace and not war.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:39 pmMakes me wonder why the Rape-public-cons have not controlled demolished the French eye sore of Liberty in the first place.
#43 Suppose they're waiting for some Iranian student pilot to fly into it with a Cessna loaded with C4???
February 12th, 2007 at 3:41 pmComment by itsjustkarma — February 12, 2007 @
ya when are we going to spank them!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#42
Well, they have that pic with Georgie Boy riding down. Strap'em on there if they want to use them.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:44 pmLike: "Ya wanna use'em? Ride'em!"
#24 yeah I agree, like I said a few months ago when I sent a link that another pic from that meeting (one where bush looked like he was wincing), that that picture was one for the history books and would go down the same way the rumsfeld/hussien picture did.
February 12th, 2007 at 3:48 pmDr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb -
February 12th, 2007 at 3:51 pmOne of the greatest movies of all times. Peter Sellers at his best. Those guys were waaaaaaaaay ahead of their time!
Got to go and 'taking care of business'... Later Ya'll!
February 12th, 2007 at 3:54 pmBe it horses, trail bikes or Segways, W has trouble riding most everything
February 12th, 2007 at 4:00 pmHere we go again! I guess bombing Iran will take our minds off the failures in Iraq. If someone doesn't stop this madman we'll be fighting everyone in the Middle East! Please someone don't let him invade Iran, or attack Iran. He doesn't care, he's only got two more years to destroy our country so he's going to be very busy. He is Bush/Cheney. I hope the Generals just say NO!
February 12th, 2007 at 4:14 pmMabye the White House still doesn't understand that anyone in the Middle East (besides Isreal) actually hates us, and when they pretend to be freinds with us, its a fake.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:19 pmMaybe the pasty-faced white guys with a 200 year history have no clue how the culture in the Middle East works.
February 12th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#53 - ForTruth,
February 12th, 2007 at 4:24 pmYour post was too long, it should have read:
"Maybe the pasty-faced white guys with a 200 year history have no clue."
I note that General Pace still refuses to back the "Iranian" weapons allegations.
But you know, this isn't the first time that Iranians have been accused -- falsely, as it turned out -- of supplying the Iraqi insurgents.
I give you this story from October 16, 2005:
So how did the Iraqis get this tech? From the IRA, of course:
February 12th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
History of the EDF's (known since 2005)
http://www.defensetech.org/archives/001881.html
February 12th, 2007 at 6:50 pm#12 What, no odds on February or March?
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I am thinking of April -- wars are ever so much more pleasant when the flowers bloom.
February 12th, 2007 at 6:56 pmIran is backing the same group we are?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus #37
Let's see if we can piece this thing together so that we're all on the same page...
The House of Saud (Sunnis) want to neutralize the power and influence of Iran (Shi'ia) in the region...
...the zionists (AIPAC/Israel) want to neutralize Iran's power and influence in the region...
...George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and their criminal cabal work for the Saudis and Israelis...
...thus, they are pushing for war against Iran on behalf of their masters...
...Russia (Putin former KGB) is dying for revenge against the U.S. for the Reagan admin's role in bankrupting the Soviet Union after they invaded Afghanistan...
...for that reason alone Putin is backing the Iranians...
...China holds a great deal of our paper...
...they love us? ...NOT...
...the longer we remain entangled in Iraq (and if we expand to Iran)...
...America must BORROW more foreign money (mostly Chinese)...
...If someone told you (conned'self-servative inbred Bushites) that they wanted you to co-sign for credit cards in your children/grandchildren's names...
...then turn them over to war profiteers...
...what would you say?
...this is EXACTLY what Bushiva, L'il Dick and their criminal cabal are doing...
February 12th, 2007 at 7:50 pmThis delay is maddening TP...
...and causing double posts...
...apologies once again...
February 12th, 2007 at 8:06 pmnow the post has disappeared...
...TP is getting tiresome...
...too many "mind"(er) games...
February 12th, 2007 at 8:10 pmI see…
…the T’hought P’olice are out tonight…
…why can’t I post about the Bush administration’s pushing war with Shiite Iran…
…at the behest of the Sunni Saudis and Israelis?
…I’ve been trying to make the same post since 3 p.m. and it won’t register…
…Why doesn’t TP want the people to know the truth?
February 12th, 2007 at 8:16 pm...what can I say...
...I'm spoiled...
February 12th, 2007 at 8:17 pm"After the invasion, it was widely reported that the US military failed to secure the very sites where several tons of explosives were stored." --Samsa
380 metric tons.
Several tons (8.4) of PETN were among the high-explosives thus handed out to hostiles in theater (without incoming border crossings, though CERTAINLY with plenty of outgoing border crossings -- hellooo Israel!).
PETN is what Richard Reid had in his tennis shoes and tried to light on fire on the aircraft. This is why your grandmother has to take off her shoes in line. Eight tons of PETN = 16,000 Lockerbie crashes.
Thanks, George!
The other 372 tons of high-explosives are certainly more than 'several,' George.
The U.S. military 'failed to guard' these munitions, but that's because THEY WEREN'T ORDERED TO. Neither were they ordered to guard the nine nuclear dumps in Iraq.
All of this materiel was, before the invasion, locked down by the UN.
Uber-mensch VP Al Gore, September 2002:
"But if Iraq came to resemble Afghanistan...What would then happen to all of those stored reserves of ... weapons all around the country? What if the Al Qaeda members infiltrated across the borders of Iraq the way they are in Afghanistan? Then the question wouldn't be, Is Saddam Hussein going to share these weapons with the terrorist group? The terrorist groups would have an enhanced ability to just walk in there and get them."
That was months before the invasion, but Gore was already pointing out that Bushco had wrecked the Afghanistan mission, and would therefore be expected to possibly wreck the Iraqi mission, as they indeed did.
If this is not negligence, it is treason.
What is the purpose of arming the insurgency? Quite obviously, to foment an insurrection, which in a U.S. managed occupation, is an insurgency against OUR troops. Therefore, either through negligence or treason, Bushco has armed our enemies, and deployed our troops into a bloody losing battle on (and above) the streets of these oil related countries. And made a lot of money doing it.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:01 pm"Thanks, George! [Bush]
The other 372 tons of high-explosives are certainly more than ’several,’ George." [Samsa]
Sorry for the inadvertent confusion.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:02 pmEr, I guess calling Gore an uber-mensch wasn't a good idea. He's a mensch, no doubt about it-- leave it at that.
February 12th, 2007 at 9:04 pm#
As recently as Jan 2005 Halliburton sold key components for a nuclear reactor to an Iranian oil development company.
It was Halliburton’s secret sale of centrifuges to Iran that helped get the uranium enrichment program off the ground, according to a three-year investigation that includes interviews conducted with more than a dozen current and former Halliburton employees.
If the U.S. ends up engaged in a war with Iran in the future, Cheney and Halliburton will bear the brunt of the blame.

Thousands of pages of documents obtained by various federal agencies show how Halliburton’s business dealings in Iran helped fund terrorist activities there—including the country’s nuclear enrichment program.
Where the HELL is the media?? There should be ten thousand reporters banging on the doors of Cheney’s secret bunker demanding answers!!! But all you hear about is a few guns that may be coming from Iran into Iraq. They’ve got to be kidding right? Our Military Industrial Complex has sold weapons to every horrible dictator on the face of the planet!
Comment by Larry from C — February 12, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
THANK YOU "Larry from C"!
It bears reposting. I hope someone with some cojones from the MSM will read this.
February 12th, 2007 at 10:34 pmIf this angle wasn't so predictable, well, then I'd feel stupid. So after stone-walling the whole time that there was a possibility that Iran was supplying weapons to militias in Iraq... Think Progress finally lets the flood gates open when they can toss "Bush-backed" into the headline. Yawn.
February 13th, 2007 at 2:52 pm[...] those ‘Iranian materials’ are going to US friends, the SCIRI political party. [Again, Think Progress has the highlights in video and transcript form.] — I say bomb Iran! (For being [...]
February 13th, 2007 at 3:07 pmIran loves turmoil in Iraq; it's for its own benefit. It's for Bush's benefit too. They both want it, and they both do their best to get it.
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