Exxon finally admits global warming is real.
Exxon Mobil Chairman Rex Tillerson told a world energy conference today that “there is no question that the world’s climate is getting warmer,” but “didn’t offer specific actions that nations should adopt to combat climate change.” While Exxon has recently embarked on a campaign to “soften” its public image on global warming.
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I really got to see the wingnuts’ reactions on this. I guess they will just lie again and say that they never denied it.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:05 pmWhen Exxon Mobile admits it, then the denial game is over. It took 35 years for them to admit it and, in the meantime, the planet just got a lot worse. If they had done right, then research on better fuels could have advanced much more than it has. What a shame.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:07 pmThat’s right, folks, the Arctic is melting, and as far as Exxon is concerned, it can’t melt fast enough!
February 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pm‘Cause as soon as it does, we can ship all year long straight from our new deep water port on the North Slope, and we won’t have to worry about them stupid bears and seals and caribou no more!
So c’mon out this Saturday, buy another SUV, fill up the tank and lets burn some oil!
Rex will say he was misunderstood, and recant.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:11 pmWhat nonsense! Have these cretins never heard of the writings of the great and wise Micheal Crichton???
<snicker>
Seriously, though…c’mon, Jason, where are you?
February 13th, 2007 at 1:12 pmWe’re waiting with baited breath.
Now if they will just pay for their clean up on the Valdese spill instead of paying million’s to attorny’s to fight it we may be getting somewhere..Geees…Slow leakers all and it’s killing us…Blessings
February 13th, 2007 at 1:20 pmSeriously, though…c’mon, Jason, where are you?
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Why bait the trolls?
February 13th, 2007 at 1:25 pmWill you be the first to complain when they show up?
Or do you just need something to do?
One aspect I think most miss, is that Exxon Mobil themselves are giant polluters. I saw a graph recently that showed their operations pollute more than most countries. And that’s not counting oil spills.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:29 pm“Wrecks” Tillerson.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:38 pmI find it interesting how he said the Earth is warming, the Pacific Rim countries should do more, Exxon has improved technology to decrease their environmental impact, took a swipe at politicians but never mentioned that fossil fuel use is the major cause for Global Climate Change. Nice dance but you can’t do it with lead feet.
And this statement:
Tillerson said the Irving-based multinational oil giant has devoted relatively little money to alternative and renewable energy, aside from a research project at Stanford University, “because we are a petroleum company.
Aren’t these oil companies required to put a good amount of money into alternative and renewable energy research as a condition of their government subsidies?
February 13th, 2007 at 1:45 pmBP is one of the largest manufacturers of photovoltaic solar panels now.
February 13th, 2007 at 1:51 pmThey are quality, efficient panels.
#12…. ‘Cause they needed room for the next thread, and the full color pictures of Rep. Boloner weeping for his lost future as a power player………….
February 13th, 2007 at 1:58 pmGood-cop/bad-cop acts are a dime a dozen, now that this administration has having its’ teeth pulled out, one by one. When Bush was all-powerful, Exxon-Mobile showed its’ true colors. As a matter-of-fact, Exxon-Mobile is signing a thirty-year contract for Iraqi oil extraction and would really like to appear like a caring and sensitive corporation, at this juncture.
February 13th, 2007 at 2:03 pmAgreed, Spudge, I was being sarcastic…even TP can’t seem to resist the titillation and the theatrics.
February 13th, 2007 at 2:05 pm…Not that I don’t participate as well……
February 13th, 2007 at 2:08 pmHas anyone informed the illustrious American Enterprise Institute?
February 13th, 2007 at 2:12 pmSomeone should.
This means they won’t be getting paychecks to float unsubstantiated claims to the contrary.
Of course, with their supreme intellectual abilities, they’ll probably end up as US Attorneys.
Wow! Now tell us that they’re in the alternative fuel business! What a surprise!
February 13th, 2007 at 2:13 pmThese perpetrators of this horrific forecast for our children and their children need to be sitting jail. They didn’t care because they could take their money and run - and not be involved in the fallout of their amoral actions. They have no conscience and deserve to be boycotted by the american people and held responsible for their culpability, along with Bushco, for the destruction of planet Earth.
February 13th, 2007 at 2:14 pmTalk is cheap.
February 13th, 2007 at 2:49 pmWhere is the appology for paying for the spreading of false information over the years about global warming?
TP needs more troll-proof topics like this.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh…
February 13th, 2007 at 2:57 pmLet the spin begin.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:04 pmThe reaction will be predictable.
The subtle shift from “global warming is a hoax” too “everyone knows it’s real, but we can’t say it’s man-made” has already taken place among most conservatives who don’t wish to be seen as total loons.
What’s amazing to me is that they devote no critical thought to the idea that the “reality” they were espousing for so long (global warming is a hoax) could be so quickly cast aside for a more expedient and convincing contrivance. They don’t realize that at some point, they will have to further admit that it is man made (only when it’s too late).
I can already see what the new meme will be at that time: Global warming is manmade, but only by liberals who stopped us from using those energy-reflecting CFCs. The completely-missing-the-point logic of that will be totall lost on them.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#10
Aren’t these oil companies required to put a good amount of money into alternative and renewable energy research as a condition of their government subsidies?
See GCEP (Global Climate & Energy Project) at Stanford University. Exxon is contributing $100 million.
Exxon also contributes to MIT’s renewable energy program.
See IPCC Reports. Exxon is financial supporter, lead author, commenter and therefore agrees with the scientific consensus. This is old news, but TP is ignorant and thinks it’s something new.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:14 pmUh, guys, this is not news. Exxon never denied that the Earth’s climate was warming. They denied that the Earth’s climate is warming because of human activity, i.e. deny that human-induced global warming is real. So they’re acknowledgement of rising global temperatures means nothing in the important race to curb the human activities that contribute to global warming.
February 13th, 2007 at 3:25 pmUh, guys, this is not news. Exxon never denied that the Earth’s climate was warming. Comment by Eskwaya — February 13, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Exxon has walked a PR tightrope all along. They themselves have simply stated that the science is inconclusive, denying that it’s real without saying so explicitly.
At the same time, they’ve funded numerous scientists to deny climate change is real explicitly, while taking the softer unconvinced PR position.
So your statement is factually false, as they have in fact denied that Global Warming was real - by claiming that the science was inconclusive, when if act it has been conclusive for years.
February 13th, 2007 at 4:14 pmRex Tillerson, the rest of the bigwigs at exxon mobile and the rest of the bigwigs at all worldwide oil companies should be herded together like the fat pigs they are and thrown into a tanker of oil then trucked over to the La Brea Tar Pits(tm) to join the rest of the dinosaur and other fossils to eventually, over the millenia to come, BECOME the fossil crude oil they exploited America’s working class and the poorer people of America to make their TRILLIONS of DOLLARS OF ILL-GOTTEN GAIN–A Fitting END for these DETESTABLE CREEPS!!!!! Don’t forget to herd CHIMPya and Torticola Cheney as well, so they can join Tillerson and the other creeps!
February 13th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWrong.
We are currently experiencing record cold temperatures and record snowfall in the US, so while there may be fluctuations in temperatures and localized changes in climate, there is NO evidence of long term, permanent, climate change on a global scale - NONE.
February 13th, 2007 at 4:33 pmYeah, sure Jase,
And darn the silly weatherman, he can’t even forcast tomorrow’s weather predictably, right?
Small minds drown easily from brainwashing.
There’s only massive amounts of data / proof of the ocean’s temperature rise over the past several decades, along with the melting of all glaciers at never before recorded levels and the overwhelming consensus from bipedals with functioning brain stems that the planet’s climate is affected by CO2 levels in the atmosphere.
To deny these truths is to cast yourself as a quantifiable “nut-job”, devoid of any rational thought ESPECIALLY concerning matters of science.
Got Jeezus?
February 13th, 2007 at 5:12 pm…
February 13th, 2007 at 5:13 pmi dunno… sumpins up… can’t trust these guys…
hope i’m wrong…
i was been wrong once before…
…
shoot… blew my own dad’s favorite joke…
i was wrong once before…
heh…
February 13th, 2007 at 5:14 pm…and when googled, one finds that jason argues about gravitational theory and, no surprise, is totally shot down as being a “crackpot”.
http://cosmicvariance.com/2006/07/17/you-are-here/
PRICELESS.
February 13th, 2007 at 5:17 pmthere is NO evidence of long term, permanent, climate change on a global scale - NONE.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 13, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Well not under your bed, where you hide, there isn’t….
But come on out.
It was 70 degrees in Georgia yesterday. It’s February… That’s not record COLD by anyone’s definition…
February 13th, 2007 at 5:27 pmJason M. Hendler on Jul 20th, 2006 at 1:40 pm
Are there any blogs on gravity? Looking at this map, and understanding that Newton’s laws on gravity don’t seem to work on a galactic scale, leads me to believe gravity is actually a pushing force or pressure within the medium, and not a pulling force within a mass, but I can’t find anyplace to discuss this.
There are reason for that…
Sheesh, Jason is the King of Nonsense…
February 13th, 2007 at 5:30 pmthere is NO evidence of long term, permanent, climate change on a global scale - NONE. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — February 13, 2007 @ 4:33 pm
Remember your old professor’s advice about acting like an expert in fields you’re ignorant of? Well, once again, you heard his words, but are clueless on their meanings.
I suggest you go read the latest climate reports. It even debunks your silly urban heat islands myth. But don’t let reality’s liberal bias stop you from posting flat out debunked lies. After all, what good is it to put aside your christian values if you can’t tell big bold faced lies like this one.
February 13th, 2007 at 5:41 pmIf you must look to science fiction novels for you points of reference, try Arthur C. Clarke, Carl Sagan, or H.G. Wells, men who had wonderful imaginations combined with sound scientific principals.
February 13th, 2007 at 5:45 pmJason wins the Golden Fleece StrawEmperor award for the day.
February 13th, 2007 at 6:12 pmThe reason to convert from buring fossil fuels to safer energies like nuclear power and alternatives (solar, wind, etc), is to clean up the environment. I doubt any of that will have any impact on global warming, but cleaner air and water would sure be nice.
February 13th, 2007 at 6:29 pmI’m surprised, since the executives who run Exxon seem to be among the most unprincipled people that run a major US corporation.
February 13th, 2007 at 7:11 pmYou may be reading too much into his comments. He said the world is warming, but did not say it is induced by man or that it is not reversible through natural feedback mechanisms. Obviously the amount of carbon man is introducing into the atmosphere contributes to global warming, and the amount of pollution counteracts this effect to some extent. How much of warming is due to natural vs man made actions, no one knows. Rather than error on the side of safety like we do with terrorism, to the point of pre-emptive wars, this administration chooses to take a passive approach, until the 9/11 of climatic change happens proves it is a real threat. By then it will probably be too late to do anything.
February 13th, 2007 at 8:12 pmI still don’t get why oil companies, who call themselves energy companies, don’t diversify into renewable resources. They could easily “corner the market” and get in on the ground floor. They more than have the capital. What’s stopping them?
February 13th, 2007 at 10:30 pmWrong.
Don’t you think scientists know how to pick out low frequency noise out of high frequency noise? For the idiots, high frequency noise = weather, low frequency signals = climate.
February 13th, 2007 at 10:33 pmWrong.
Don’t you think scientists know how to pick out low frequency signals out of high frequency noise? For the idiots, high frequency noise = weather, low frequency signals = climate.
(TP, get a preview button, huh?)
February 13th, 2007 at 10:34 pmThe Exxon SOB did not have any ideas for how to help. I have one for him. “Stop paying your f…ing shills at American Enterprise Institute and elsewhere in an effort to keep the public confused. In any kind of moral universe, you would be in jail instead of collecting 10s if not 100s of millions dollars per year.”
jon
February 13th, 2007 at 11:58 pmFor some relevant irreverence on the climate change report, see: http://EcosystemCollapse.com/ellen.html
Slow down here! You people are missing the point. Exxon acknowledged that the world’s climate is getting warmer. But they never said that it was because of human activity. You see, these are two different things. The earth has always gone through cycles of cooling and warming, yes even before the invention of the internal combustion engine! This is all that Exxon is realing saying here. So you global alarmists don’t start thinking you have gained any ground here, because you haven’t.
February 14th, 2007 at 9:31 am[…] Exxon said to be backtracking somewhat: here. […]
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