The Davy Crockett defense of escalation.
By on Feb 13th, 2007 at 10:43 pm
The Davy Crockett defense of escalation.
During today’s House debate on Iraq, Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) debuted the Davy Crockett defense:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/02/davy.320.240.flv]
AKIN: Could you picture Davy Crockett at the Alamo looking at his Blackberry getting a message from Congress? “Davy Crockett, we support you. The only thing is we are not going to send any troops.” I’m sure that would really be impressive to Davy Crockett.
UPDATE: From commenter Mike:
I think Davy Crockett would be more impressed with the odd contraption that is sending him messages in the 1836 and why it was Congress calling when Texas wasn’t annexed until 1845.
“OMG Davy, u r on ur own, lollers ;) C-gress”
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Isn't that what happened? Didn't Austin refuse to send troops initially to gather more for his push? What a funking home-schooled maroon!
February 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pmJesus Christ...you can't be serious...
February 13th, 2007 at 10:51 pmI think Davy Crockett would be more impressed with the odd contraption that is sending him messages in the 1836 and why it was Congress calling when Texas wasn't annexed until 1845.
"OMG Davy, u r on ur own, lollers ;) C-gress"
February 13th, 2007 at 10:52 pmExcept that the Alamo had no strategic significance to the Texian revolution, and cost Sam Houston some quality officers at a time when army morale had begun to suffer.
What's more, Houston chose to send no troops in relief to the Alamo because he recognized that holding the mission was both a futile tactical excerise, and counterproductive to his strategic objectives.
AGAIN with the ignorance of history thing. Doesn't anybody in office read books anymore?
February 13th, 2007 at 10:54 pmIrony abounds; this moron is living proof that those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Too bad the rest of us are along for the ride . . .
February 13th, 2007 at 10:55 pmTo Mike of Kansas:
Your post #3 is the funniest damned thing that I have read in recent memory! Nice job!
February 13th, 2007 at 10:56 pmAh, I guess I meant Houston, not Austin. Whatta ya expect from a drunk, anyway, sheeesh!
February 13th, 2007 at 10:59 pm“OMG Davy, u r on ur own, lollers ;) C-gressâ€
Comment by Mike (D-KS)
FROFLMFAO!!!!!
Sadly, if historically possible, that would have been the EXACT message the US government would have sent!
February 13th, 2007 at 10:59 pmHow do we continue to let these bastards side step the fact that the war is lost? This is magical thinking we are battling. They think they have us over a barrel by saying "we never give up....only you weak traitor Democrats give up." This is the reasoning of an infant. There are times in life WHEN NO AMOUNT OF WISHING IT OR SENDING MORE TROOPS WILL DO IT."
It's like continuing to do CPR on a person that has long expired ...... Then when someone drags the person away from the corpse he is screams......"Another minute and I could have saved her!"
I'll repeat my question. Why are we engaging them on whether or not we support the troops? They win in that it lets them side step the real agrument/question. They will not admit the war is a failure. That is the discussion we should be having. Why won't they, Why can't they, When will they? There is the wealth of info we need. They won't because they need to feed their rich buddies that are raking it in using a "war machine." They are corrupt. They are trying to stay in power and if they take responsibility for this war, they will lose power. They are trying to avoid this discussion.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:01 pmToo bad the rest of us are along for the ride . . .
Comment by Barfly
Not unless we fight like Crockett and his men did at the Alamo ourselves, and use their perverse twisted warlogic in reverse against them and put it on those bastards bigtime!
We are NOT along for the ride Barfly.
Unless we DO NOT saddle up as a single country and say...ENOUGH!.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:02 pmComment by rachel kinnardi esq.
HAhahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!
Esquire! That's rich! Real funny, you delusional troll.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:10 pmAKIN: Could you picture Davy Crockett at the Alamo looking at his Blackberry getting a message from Congress? “Davy Crockett, we support you. The only thing is we are not going to send any troops.†I’m sure that would really be impressive to Davy Crockett.
How did old Davy and his men make out at that Alamo thing ?
February 13th, 2007 at 11:11 pmCan you imagine every single Republican getting voted out of office?
February 13th, 2007 at 11:12 pmRachel, you perverted postings from yesterday, along with your threats against TP, disqualify you from consideration as a serious intellect. Go peddle your papers somewhere else.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:15 pmComment by trueblue —
....
Sugar and spice and all things.....??
Ah never mind!
February 13th, 2007 at 11:15 pmDuring today’s House debate on Iraq, Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) debuted the Davy Crockett defense:
Ahh mann dat jus makes me wanna load up my cooler jumpin da surburban git out in da country shoot some quail
February 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmEgad, no, not from Missouri. I'm moving.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:16 pmTodd
T-o-o-d-d Akin
King of The Wild Defense
February 13th, 2007 at 11:19 pmUnless we DO NOT saddle up as a single country and say…ENOUGH!.
Comment by rachel kinnardi esq.
shheeet firre an sabe da maches!
February 13th, 2007 at 11:20 pmComment by trueblue —
….
Sugar and spice and all things…..??
Ah never mind!
Comment by rachel kinnardi — February 13, 2007 @ 11:15 pm
nnnnn-NO!
February 13th, 2007 at 11:21 pmYou found my out, rachel.
I'm a horrible person. *sniff*
Please forgive me. *sob*
How could I possibly call a troll out on it's stupidity?
*wail*
Correct me if im wrong but were the Texans the "insurgents" in this case. You had a bunch of white guys with a manifest destiny hard-on and racial superiority chip on their shoulders, illegally immigrating to mexican territory and then claiming the land for thier own! sounds like an insurgency to me.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:25 pmDavy Crockett defense:
hAY, iz we gonna git sum beer n' go qualin or not?
February 13th, 2007 at 11:26 pmtrueblue....please don't engage Rachel. She is disrupting...period. She/He/It is beneath contempt
February 13th, 2007 at 11:29 pmQuite a dad....dressing his 10 year old son up to play army, complete with rifle. I hope his son's tour ends up better than what 3100 other familes have experienced. Wonder how Todd would handle that?
February 13th, 2007 at 11:31 pmCorrect me if im wrong but were the Texans the “insurgents†in this case. You had a bunch of white guys with a manifest destiny hard-on and racial superiority chip on their shoulders, illegally immigrating to mexican territory and then claiming the land for thier own! sounds like an insurgency to me. Comment by Jon-BULL
Aw hell, yeh yeh, past history, noy yer jus part of da bigger empyre. (wink) cee wee wus awl isnurgentz at un time, yah kno apes with clubs, hell dint eben speek much nur hab a name fer it.
Jes did it my motes
February 13th, 2007 at 11:32 pmSorry, s,
Rachel has aimed her /it's venom at me before.
I guess I let my feelings get the better of me.
You are right.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pmI shall disengage.
Daveeeeey. Davy caught it. Gave it to the whole frontier.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:34 pm...does anyone else hope it's Joe Sixpack every time they read: "Correct me if I'm wrong"?
Damn. He was funny. A good poster.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmGone.
(excuse me while I wax nostalgic.)
:)
Texas wasn’t annexed until 1845.
It wuz 'Tejas' at sum time
February 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmRepresentative Akin,
You dumb mother&%$#$fcker!
Listen up sickle cell, let`s put things into the proper perspective here.
America was wrong then, America is wrong now. Any war is wrong.
Any war is never right.
Too bad the rest of us are along for the ride . . .
Comment by Barfly
Not unless we fight like Crockett and his men did at the Alamo ourselves, and use their perverse twisted warlogic in reverse against them and put it on those bastards bigtime!
We are NOT along for the ride Barfly.
Unless we DO NOT saddle up as a single country on ONE horse and say...ENOUGH!.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:38 pmNot unless we fight like Crockett and his men did at the Alamo ourselves, and use their perverse twisted warlogic in reverse against them and put it on those bastards bigtime!
Whhhehehheeeeewwww!! Yew gooo Gerll!!
Hay iz yew talkin 'bout sex or huntin?
February 13th, 2007 at 11:42 pmHay iz yew talkin ’bout sex or huntin?
Comment by Haw —
Be nice Trucker Pundit!
February 13th, 2007 at 11:47 pmHey Mike, ur famous dude!! Congrats!
February 13th, 2007 at 11:50 pmRemember the Alamo -- What a great bumper sticker. Might even be better than my "I never thought I'd miss Nixon"
February 13th, 2007 at 11:51 pmit is hard to believe that the seriousness of the situation and the debate could be so callously and irresponsibly trivialized by these extraordinarily idiotic, insensitive, and tone-deaf republicans. It is hard to believe they actually reside in the US Congress; they are total disgrace to the nation.
February 13th, 2007 at 11:52 pm.
Heh, he sed Escalaytion, heh.
February 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amthey are total disgrace to the nation
And yet they keep getting re-elected. He may be one ignorant MF, but he's saying what he thinks his constituents want to hear, so there are Americans that like living in Missouri and ignorance.
February 14th, 2007 at 12:16 amOops, I meant so there are Americans who like living in Missouri and ignorance.
Oh, well . . .
February 14th, 2007 at 12:20 amQuick! To the time machine! If we hurry we can save Davie's coontail cap - Bowie's knife - the Alamo - and get that wall built before Santa Ana's men and the rest of those illegals cross the border.
If Davy can have a blackberry we surely deserve a time machine, eh?
February 14th, 2007 at 1:00 amUnless we DO NOT saddle up as a single country on ONE horse and say…ENOUGH!.
Comment by rachel —
AS one country do you mean all those whom reside in our border?
February 14th, 2007 at 1:00 amLook, All I eez wantin to do is know if thy rich folk iz behind me when I defend them, or if'n they just uzin me.
well dem dat aint, I kan't help em.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:03 amAre ye fer da dollar ore are ue fer Amerika?
February 14th, 2007 at 1:05 amSpudge_Boy = ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
February 14th, 2007 at 1:05 ami lived in missouri for a few years... in columbia... college town...
February 14th, 2007 at 1:07 amvery progressive... yet most still referred to it as "mizzery"...
I lived in Kirksville Mo. for awhile katy when I first went to college.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:26 amHow is it that we trounced these retards in the civil war and yet alot of them end up with power? Can't we poison the pone or somethin'?
February 14th, 2007 at 1:42 amGOPers always use stupid examples to defend their support for the Iraq Fiasco War. Texas was not even the Lone Star State when the Alamo fell to the Mexican army.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:44 amyo 46, the machine runs on humans not money.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:45 amThe retards moved to the south Vance, whut you thinking?
February 14th, 2007 at 1:48 amThe recruiting status is in dire shape:
Wow, totally unreal.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:58 amThose are the rules from Al Jazeera for posting on their site
'Your Views'.
If TP would enforce the same rules, most posts would disappear. Right now only messages with content don't make it. Well, thanks to higher forces there are other blogs out there. And thanks for all the decent and educated posters for their sharing of common sense and wisdom.
Itsjustkarma will leave now for good. Aloha.
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FALSE troll alert ALERT!!!
I did not post # 43.
Rachel,go to bed,boy.
February 14th, 2007 at 2:13 amYou can't make this shit up.
February 14th, 2007 at 2:13 amSpudge_Boy = ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus = unbelievable.
February 14th, 2007 at 2:45 amFALSE troll alert ALERT!!!
I did not post # 55
Spudge_Boy = ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus = unbelievable.
These are three different posters,and I know that.
Rachel,go to bed,boy.
February 14th, 2007 at 3:01 amThis is my last post here for the night.
Any posts done in my name,are not authentic.
Rachel,go to bed,boy.
February 14th, 2007 at 3:08 amBut everyone at the Alamo except for women, children, and slaves was killed. Is Akin saying that's what Bush should do?
February 14th, 2007 at 3:15 amI don’t need to name jack to tell you to go fu*k yourself rachel.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
Okay ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus , whatever you say.
TP?
I would like you to make this poster STOP using this atrocious name. What kind of a message does this send to new people cruising through this site?
What kind of an image does this name project upon this site?
February 14th, 2007 at 3:51 amI don’t need to name jack to tell you to go fu*k yourself rachel.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
>Okay ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus , whatever you say.
TP?
I would like you to make this poster STOP using this atrocious name ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus.
What kind of a message does this send to new people cruising through this site?
What kind of an image does this name project upon this site?
February 14th, 2007 at 3:53 amI don’t need to name jack to tell you to go fu*k yourself rachel.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
>Okay ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus , whatever you say.
TP?
I would like you to make this poster STOP using this atrocious name ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus.
What kind of a message does this send to new people cruising through this site?
What kind of an image does this name project upon this site?
Might I suggest that we go the way of registration soon so as to weed out this kind of rabble off of this site?
February 14th, 2007 at 3:56 amRep. Rangel hit the gong today when he rebutted Rep. Hunter's Iraq Escalation debate reading of Gen'l MacArthur's farewell address-- which he said he thought was apt.
Rangel, up next, opened with:
“I didn’t come down here, my colleagues, to talk about General MacArthur. But I guess I knew of him better than anyone in this room.
"General MacArthur was called on in Korea, he was the commander of the entire armed forces there, and left us in the Second Infantry Division, completely surrounded by the Chinese in November of 1950.
"The last I remember, he was called back by the Commander-in-Chief, Harry Truman, for defying his direction. So with all due respect to the great late General, this is hardly a time to talk about what soldiers have to do when they defy authority....â€
(emphasis mine)
Gong!
Since Congressional members of the Republic party like Rep. Hunter don't resist illegal authority at all, they need heroes. Rep. Hunter wrapped himself in Japan, El Salvador, Poland, Reagan, and... Saddam Hussein.
Rep. Hunter said that people wanted "an Iraqi face on the occupation."
Apparently he doesn't know that the CIA helped install Hussein.
Something tells me the new Chair of the Ways & Means Committee will hold hearings on reversing tax breaks for the rich during a war, AND TO PAY FOR THE NATION'S COSTS, and not bring up his repugnant -- though in some sense fair -- draft proposal.
Rep. Lantos was also great.
February 14th, 2007 at 4:22 amOr The whitehouse wants you to leave davy crockett ???
February 14th, 2007 at 4:23 amAll the site monitors are obviously asleep, wish I was...
February 14th, 2007 at 4:24 amHow about if for one day, we all change our names to Rachel?
February 14th, 2007 at 4:25 amI thought politicians were only this stupid here in Texas
And congrats on #3 for getting mentioned in the post, hysterical, and comment #2 set the stage perfectly, as that was my first thought too
I'm sure Crockett's response now would be along the lines of, "Hey, Akin, you dumbass, why didn't you text me directions to the basement BEFORE Santa Ana's army arrived?"
February 14th, 2007 at 4:45 amHow about if for one day, we all change our names to Rachel?
Comment by SKdeA
What would this accomplish?
And why are you taking such a keen interest in who I am?
As I could care less who you are, I do care more about the message and not so much the messenger.
On this note, people can and do change.
I can understand why some of you folks have it in for me and most will just forgive and forget, but yet there will be others who will amazingly make it their lifes work and purpose to harass me here at this site.
Thats the very nature of politics.
Peace and Blessings.
Rachel
February 14th, 2007 at 5:13 amTODD AKIN IS A MORON
Let's take his vapid analogy further:
In the first place, we wouldn't send a handful of troops to some far flung outpost to take on Santa Ana's army.
In the second place, we would immediately pull the troops after a careful assessment of the situation determined that they were in the wrong place.
In the third place, we wouldn't have sent the troops in the first place.
Todd Akin is a moron.
February 14th, 2007 at 5:29 amAkin is comparing apples and oranges. The two conflicts are not similar. As for the military service giving waivers to people with criminal backgrounds, the Pentagon will have more Abu Ghraib-type problems to deal with if the army and marines continue on this dangerous recruitment path. If you don't have good people in uniform, you will have problems. The solution is plain to the American public: support our troops by getting them out of an untenable situation. Why isn't it plain to Akin and the president of the United States?
February 14th, 2007 at 5:37 amTodd Akin's intelligence quotient is far below 0.As you know democrat presidents have shown much better IQ than repugnicants.
That is NO coincidence.Akin proves statistics to be facts.
February 14th, 2007 at 6:35 amlol morons elected by morons.
February 14th, 2007 at 7:28 amWhat if the tail on Mr. Crockett's raccoon hat was an antenna?
February 14th, 2007 at 7:37 am“OMG Davy, u r on ur own, lollers ;) C-gressâ€
...funny
February 14th, 2007 at 7:49 amTo: Davy Crockett
February 14th, 2007 at 7:50 amSubject: Surge
Sending you reinforcement. Ten troops on their way. Five are already in the Alamo so you just keep them there, Three are just finishing two weeks training. One just finished his tour there and will be sent back. and last but not least a covicted criminal. I hope these guys will make all the difference. Oh by the way they don't have any Bowie Knives, Kevlar Coonskin hats, or high speed horses. You know the rule you go to war with what youve got not what you need.
You Coward in Chief and Decider
G.W. Bush
Yes, the war is a failure, and Obama should not have apologized for saying lives were wasted there. They were and continue to be in an illegal and unnecessary war that has damaged the region, our polity, and our reputation for decades to come. I never thought we'd be as reviled as we were during the Vietnam era--and now it's worse.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:15 amAkin lost his mind and went off the GOP talking points message from Hoekstra & Shadegg. He was supposed to talk about "Islamo-Jihadists" as many times as possible for five minutes. But instead, thinking it is 1836, he channeled Davy Crockett. What an ass.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:17 amSgt Eddieb
Good comparison... very clever.
February 14th, 2007 at 8:26 amI can understand why some of you folks have it in for me and most will just forgive and forget, but yet there will be others who will amazingly make it their lifes work and purpose to harass me here at this site.
Rachel
From all the wallpapering you did with the same cut-and-paste garbarge to your name-jacking tendencies, to you vulgar name calling, you've violated EVERY rule of the terms of use of this site AND YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE HERE, MUCH LESS EVEN RESPONDED TO.
Don't cry about it, you created all the venom directed at you and you DESERVE EVEN MORE.
OH, and I see you're still posting in the middle of the night. Lay off the meth.
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February 14th, 2007 at 9:03 amOh my, the poor Representative's Akin' head, is something Fess-tering up there?
February 14th, 2007 at 9:12 amThese theatrics, displays of faux emotion, and attempts at humor on the part of Republican War Party members are likely based on their hopes to have employment in Reality Television and right wing radio.
Perhaps they could try the "Chewbacca Defense"...
February 14th, 2007 at 9:41 amThis is Chewbacca, Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk, but Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now, think about that. That does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must send 20 thousand more troops to Iraq!
America Support Our Troops which is precisely why we want them returned home from this illegal, amoral war which was based on a downright, bold-faced lie! How do you think they feel knowing their lives were used as pawns in the Bush Cabal's Computer War Game?
Let's talk about their moral, shall we? What kind of morale can one have when they are still missing integral components of weaponry after all these years? Let's discuss morale when they hear that this administration used them as "pawns" in an egoic need to control oil? How will they feel when (if they ever make it out alive) they return home and realize that what they thought was absolutely accurate - that Iraq has been fighting a civil war for centuries and Bush placed them in his diabolical game of "monkey in the middle"? How would you feel being used like this for lust for oil, greed, and corruption? How would you feel knowing that while your family suffered from lack of income, the no-bid contract Haliburton (on whose payroll Dickhead Cheney still resides) is making money hand over fist and even stealing billions (where are those taxpayer dollars which are still unaccounted for???? - I suggest checking Cheney's pockets sometime!)......
It certainly would not make any human being feel good to realize that they've been had by the very government they've been raised to believe was "looking out for their best interests"....what a joke! Just ask the still-homeless Katrina victims how they feel about this wonderful government of ours? Ask them how it feels sometime....
It's "every man for himself" government at this point and anyone who still believes that this government cares one iota about their welfare, please come to see me about the sale of the Brooklyn bridge sometime.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:13 ampathetic
February 14th, 2007 at 10:14 amthis guy needs a coonskin cap to cover that mess of a nest up there on his head he calls hair! Bad rug is an understatement! Davie, Davie Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier.....but Akin appears to be King of The Bad Actors! Where did they get these idiots from? I can't imagine what the people of St. Louis must be thinking......they'd have to be wondering how a fool like this (whose ineffective theatrics may win him an Oscar in the Comedy Category) ever was elected to office? Wow!
February 14th, 2007 at 10:16 amLet me get this straight... according to Rep. Akin--
Alamo:Davy Crockett::Iraq:U.S. Troops
I'm sure his logic is giving our brave soliders a real moral boost.
February 14th, 2007 at 10:21 amDid someone tell him that the decision to not send more troops to the Alamo was a good decision? That Texas later won the war at the Battle of San Jacinto? That the militia went to the Alamo unilaterally? That if they had sent more troops into a quagmire they would have lost everything?
February 14th, 2007 at 11:12 amDavy Crockett died for lack of an exit strategy.
February 14th, 2007 at 11:44 amAnybody listen to Thom Hartmann? That's what I love about him: his encyclopedic knowledge of U.S. (and also world) history, and the fact that he knows to say "I don't know about this period" when he actually doesn't! Why can't we have representatives with knowledge like that?
Instead we have this joker using analogies that don't make sense and referencing a historical event by its folk song accounts and not actual history.
I got a great idea. Let's ask the troops what they think.
Oh wait, that wouldn't support the Republican talking points, now would it?
February 14th, 2007 at 11:54 amBush REALLY lowered the bar on that one.
February 14th, 2007 at 11:55 amWe sent Davy Crockett to Iraq? When?
February 14th, 2007 at 11:58 amI don't know that drawing a parallel with a historic fighting force wiped-out to the last man is going to be the most comforting thought for today's fighting forces, unless you think, "you're all gonna die!" is reassuring.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:45 pmTodd uses a comb-over with plenty of dippty-doo to keep his brains from exploding and demolishing the capitol dome which is dedicated to the 13th Imam.
February 14th, 2007 at 1:46 pmIf the man knew his Texas history he'd know that the reinforcements were sent, but captured and slaughtered at Goliad
February 14th, 2007 at 2:10 pmIf the man knew his Texas history he'd know that the reinforcements were sent, but captured and slaughtered at Goliad
February 14th, 2007 at 2:11 pmDavy Crockett died for lack of an exit strategy.
Comment by mparker
LOL! Quite true!
February 14th, 2007 at 2:14 pmTodd Akin was the repugnant-repub MORON who said "Marriage is not about love. It's about a love that can bear children." That would make children born OUT OF WEDLOCK what, Akin? Can we borrow the time-travel machine out of the Vatican's Vaults and use it to transport Akin back in time and switch him with Davy Crockett so Akin CAN DIE AT THE ALAMO and Crockett be put to useful endeavors, UNLIKE Akin!!!!!
February 14th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAll I know is it would be hilarious if Davy Crockett were receiving texts at the Alamo from Mark Foley's great-great-great grandfather.
"Yea verily, our precious Alamo has been lost, but fret not, Davy, for be it ever thus, you roxors! LOL! Take great haste to lay your coonskin cap about my cabin!"
February 14th, 2007 at 4:40 pmShouldn't our government officials know our history better than the general population?
Oh wait, if they did we wouldn't be repeating history now!
(Vietnam, Rome...)
February 14th, 2007 at 5:20 pmOk, so I am guessing Davy wouldn't appreciate guided missiles either. What the EFFF is this guy talking about?
February 14th, 2007 at 8:45 pmOnly in MO could they elect this schmuck (well...maybe Texas).
February 14th, 2007 at 8:46 pmThis is funnier than most people realize, since, as has been pointed out already, it was the Texans who were the insurgents in this case. They were not fighting for the US government; indeed, they technically weren't even US citizens at the time. Part of Houston's original agreement with the Mexican government was that the immigrants into the Texas region would renounce their American citizenship and become Mexicans, and even promised to defend Texas against the US. needless to say, Houston wasn't playing a fair hand when he made this agreement.
There is no question that Houston's forces intended to convert Texas into a US state from the start. It's quite amazing that the Mexican authorities didn't realize this, but they apparently realized that they couldn't hold Texas otherwise anyway, and Houston's deal apparently sounded good on paper. The new immigrants made no pretense of fulfilling the other aspects of the agreement (converting to Catholicism, abandoning slavery, dropping English in favor of Spanish), either, which should have made their intentions clear if they weren't already, but even at that point the Mexican government could hardly have done anything to stop this - northern Mexico was thinly populated, especially in East Texas, which was the whole reason they allowed the Texan settlers in the country in the first place. Chances are, the only thing Houston's agreement did was to delay the armed response towards what was effectively an armed invasion for about a decade.
Still, the fact that the Texans were, legally speaking, revolting against the government they had sworn loyalty to was a dicey enough matter that D.C. was careful to avoid the appearance of any formal assistance for the Lone Star Republic for yet another ten years. Of course, for their own part, many Texans didn't want US assistance; while most saw themselves as US loyalists 'liberating' Texas for the US, there was a sizable minority who wanted Texas to remain an independent nation in it's own right.
February 20th, 2007 at 11:43 amWhat's Davey Crockett doing with a Blackberry? That's a Canadian company. He'd be using a Treo if he was a real patriot!
February 22nd, 2007 at 4:37 pmAs I recall, everyone at the Alamo was killed. Is this man saying that out troops in Iraq are like troops at the Alamo? Who's Santa Anna in that scenario? Where's the Mexican Army? Why would the US Congress have had any interaction at all with anyone in or around the Alamo? The people fighting at the Alamo didn't even have revolvers. Gatling guns had not been invented. Bowie had a knife. I don't understand... Maybe we need some DeLoreans to deliver weapons from the future to our troops in Iraq, although I suspect they'd rather come home or at least have some helmets and armored humvees.
February 22nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmOK the quote is so stupid that my pointing this out is irrelevant BUT AS ANY TEXAS SCHOOL KID KNOWS, at the time of the Battle of the Alamo, Texas was NOT A STATE. It wasn't even a country yet, though that was the intent of the revolution. Congress would not have had any reason to be debating the war. DUH. If you are gonna say something amazingly stupid, could it maybe just be historically accurate? NAH of course that is too much to ask. Davy would not have given a flying flip what the US Congress had to say anyway...
February 26th, 2007 at 8:05 pm